Supper Today - Sept 9th

[Michael Trew]

It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
had. Overall, not bad at all.

This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
Sunday that really needed to be used up.

Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K

Is there anything cooking today in RFC-land?

[S Viemeister]

Chicken with dumplings for tonight's dinner, a pot of scotch broth for
later this week.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

You did very well; nicely browned biscuits, too!

It's going to be a salad here as I bought a Taylor brand bagged salad.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not cooking, as such. Lunch was a small chicken sandwich followed by a
couple of hours mowing the lawn.

Dinner will be a salad with red-wine vinaigrette flavored with Penzey's
pizza seasoning blend, and a slice of cheesy garlic bread.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bryan Simmons]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:

> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
> had. Overall, not bad at all.
>
> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
>

I figured sf was dead by now.
>
> Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K
>
Maaaaahm! Kitty fwew up again.

--Bryan

[Dave Smith]

Nothing special here. We are having hamburgers. I stuffed some cheddar
cheese into the patties and we will be cooking them soon.

[jmcquown]

I grew up eating creamed chicken on biscuits but never with peas added.
When Mom made it she used drop biscuits made with Bisquik; when I make
it the drop biscuits are from scratch. I haven't made creamed chicken
and biscuits in years.

> Is there anything cooking today in RFC-land?

I wound up eating at a friends house yesterday (ribs) so I didn't try
the white boudin I bought yesterday. Tonight I'll be simmering a couple
of those Cajun pork & rice sausages. The rest are already portioned out
and in the freezer.

Jill

[Thomas]

The peas add a nice touch. I keep a bag of frozen to add to things.

[bruce bowser]

That creamed chicken might have been better if it was rather creamed breakfast sausage with biscuits.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/9/2023 6:04 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/9/2023 4:13 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
>> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
>> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
>> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what
>> I had. Overall, not bad at all.
>>
>> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
>> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
>> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
>>
>> Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K
>>
> I grew up eating creamed chicken on biscuits but never with peas added.
> When Mom made it she used drop biscuits made with Bisquik; when I make
> it the drop biscuits are from scratch. I haven't made creamed chicken
> and biscuits in years.

I've had it before, but this is the first time I made it. I wouldn't
have thought to add the peas, but that's how I saw it done on
aforementioned FaceBook post.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/9/2023 5:18 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
>> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
>> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
>> had. Overall, not bad at all.
>>
>> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
>> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
>> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
>>
> I figured sf was dead by now.

Was she a death wish of yours years ago? ;)

>> Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K
>>
> Maaaaahm! Kitty fwew up again.

I don't care how it looks. I care how it tastes.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 5:10:47 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 9/9/2023 5:18 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> >> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
> >> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
> >> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
> >> had. Overall, not bad at all.
> >>
> >> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
> >> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
> >> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
> >>
> > I figured sf was dead by now.
> Was she a death wish of yours years ago? ;)
>

No. Only two death wishes. Andy and Kuthe. I didn't even
wish Julie dead, but I did want her to find this NG painful to
read so she'd leave.

>
> >> Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K
> >>
> > Maaaaahm! Kitty fwew up again.
> I don't care how it looks. I care how it tastes.
>

It does look like "Kitty fwew up" though.

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

Yeah, Barbara, aka sf. All I meant was the creamed chicken on I grew up
with didn't have added peas. I'm sure there are many different versions
of it all over.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 18:10:41 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 9/9/2023 5:18 PM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 3:13:29 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
>>> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
>>> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
>>> had. Overall, not bad at all.
>>>
>>> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
>>> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
>>> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
>>>
>> I figured sf was dead by now.
>
>Was she a death wish of yours years ago? ;)

Probably. Everybody gets their turn. Bryan once said he wants to see
me eaten by wild animals because, as a non meat eater, I'm not
occupying my position at the top of the food chain.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Leonard Blaisdell]

I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
every pea in it, out.
I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)

[songbird]

Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
...

> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
> every pea in it, out.
> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)

creamed chicken sounds like chicken pot pie filling
with no crust.

i'd be ok with that, add some sliced hard boiled eggs
and sliced green olives and some fresh diced onions and
it would be like chicken-a-la-king over toast. ok, well,
my version of chicken-a-la-king...

now as for the shrimp version, i'd be ok ignoring the
shrimp entirely and just having mixed veggies or tuna
instead. shrimp just doesn't have enough flavor to me
to be worth the bother and expense and way too often it
is overcooked to the point of bits of rubber in many
dishes.


songbird

[Dave Smith]

I have never understood why some people hate peas. I like them. AAMOF,
we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great. There are
a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive tastes,
and some that have weird textures, but... peas??

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2023-09-12 1:17 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2023-09-10, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>>> I've had it before, but this is the first time I made it. I wouldn't
>>> have thought to add the peas, but that's how I saw it done on
>>> aforementioned FaceBook post.
>>
>>
>> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
>> every pea in it, out.
>> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
>> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)
>
>
> I have never understood why some people hate peas.

I have never understood why some people hate milk.

> I like them. AAMOF,
> we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great. There are
> a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive tastes,
> and some that have weird textures, but... peas??

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-09-12 12:03 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-12 1:17 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-10, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I've had it before, but this is the first time I made it. I wouldn't
>>>> have thought to add the peas, but that's how I saw it done on
>>>> aforementioned FaceBook post.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
>>> every pea in it, out.
>>> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
>>> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)
>>
>>
>> I have never understood why some people hate peas.
>
> I have never understood why some people hate milk.

It has to so with the way it leaves your through clogged with phlegm and
then fills fills you with gas and loose bowls. It's not the taste. It's
the way it affects your digestives system. I have three brothers who
drink more milk in a day than I have had in decades.

[songbird]

Dave Smith wrote:
...

> I have never understood why some people hate peas. I like them. AAMOF,
> we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great. There are
> a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive tastes,
> and some that have weird textures, but... peas??

canned peas are often rather mushy and disgusting
to some people. i can eat them but that's a food as
fuel or desperation move - i'd much rather eat frozen
peas that have been warmed up.


songbird

[Dave Smith]

Yes, they are a little mushy, but IMO they taste more like fresh peas
than the frozen guys. I don't mind canned peas. That being said, I have
not eaten them in years.

[Hank Rogers]

Sounds like your bowels are defective, Officer Dave.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Many people who can tolerate milk still don't like it.


--
Cindy Hamilton

[Michael Trew]

RFC might implode, but I used canned peas, too. "Best by" some month in
2022. They were just fine. I've never had creamed shrimp. Those
little buggers are expensive, but I might have a bag of shrimp in the
freezer. I don't eat very much seafood.

Truth be told, I've been working on the left over biscuits and creamed
chicken since I made my post a few days ago. That and picking at a
pepperoni roll. I don't cook much since it's just me here. I have
about two servings left in the fridge, and two biscuits also. Just
split them and toss each half into the toaster. When that runs out, I
have a head of cabbage in the fridge, and I might make some noodles.

[dsi1]

I like to put peas in fried rice. You pretty much have to use frozen peas. Canned peas in fried rice would make quite a mess.
I don't do that because my family has something against peas.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/12/2023 7:20 AM, songbird wrote:
> Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> ...
>> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
>> every pea in it, out.
>> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
>> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)
>
> creamed chicken sounds like chicken pot pie filling
> with no crust.

Yes, vaguely like that, but I put more work and ingredients into chicken
pot pie. I start with cooking split chicken breast in a pot of water,
and reserve the bones to keep simmering. Carrots/celery/potatoes are
split between two large pot pies and the soup that I later make in the
homemade stock. I get a lot of mileage out of a pack of split chicken
breast!

> i'd be ok with that, add some sliced hard boiled eggs
> and sliced green olives and some fresh diced onions and

Other than a quick roux, the only other thing added was salt/pep, and a
bit of garlic powder. No fresh onion, but I did add dehy onions from a
jar, Sheldon style!

> it would be like chicken-a-la-king over toast. ok, well,
> my version of chicken-a-la-king...

AKA: SOS ;)

I could have done it over toast, but I think I'm out of bread. Homemade
biscuits are pretty quick when you get used to making them from scratch.
I don't even measure anymore; all by eye then into a very hot oven.
The less you play with the dough, the better they are.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/12/2023 3:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never understood why some people hate milk.
>>

>> It's not the taste. It's the way it affects your digestives system.
>

> Many people who can tolerate milk still don't like it.

That's me, present! Sometimes dairy does cause me minor phlegm, but
nothing terrible. I didn't grow up drinking milk or juice, only water,
and I thank my mother for that. I did pick up drinking hot black coffee
from grandma. A cup of strong pond water occasionally, but preferably
iced (no sugar).

A glass of milk, "ice cold" or not, is very unappealing to me. I'll
finish the milk in my cereal bowl to not waste, but I really don't care
for it. I only use it for baking. The last of my milk went into
creamed chicken and biscuits. I'll buy another half gallon, eventually.

[Ed P]

I don't, never did but as a kid we had to have a glass with dinner every
night. That said, I can drink a good milkshake, eat ice cream, other
milk products.

[GM]

I can't stand drinking milk... growing up it was on the table for most every meal, everyone
drank it...

And I still remember the icky smell from those school lunch milk cartons, the chocolate
especially was gag - inducing...

Back in 1978 I was returning from Europe on Lufthansa German Airlines. During the lunch
service, an adjacent yank LOUDLY asked the stewardess for "a cold glass of milk". She looked at
him puzzled, and said, "Sir, is this for your baby"?... he said, "NO, it's for me...!!!" The only milk they
had on the plane was generally reserved for children...

Lol...

--
GM

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 16:49:44 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 9/12/2023 1:17 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2023-09-10, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've had it before, but this is the first time I made it. I wouldn't
>>> have thought to add the peas, but that's how I saw it done on
>>> aforementioned FaceBook post.
>>
>> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
>> every pea in it, out.
>> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
>> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)
>
>RFC might implode, but I used canned peas, too. "Best by" some month in
>2022. They were just fine. I've never had creamed shrimp. Those
>little buggers are expensive, but I might have a bag of shrimp in the
>freezer. I don't eat very much seafood.

I don't think many East Liverpool homeboys eat a lot of fish or
seafood.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Dave Smith]

My parents eventually gave up on forcing me to drink milk with meals and
started giving me tea. They could not use the nonsense about needing it
to grow strong bones because I was a really big kid. I was almost as big
as my two older brothers who were 3 and 5 years older and always the
biggest kid in my class despite being the youngest. My thoracic surgeon
commented on the size of my ribs. I guess I am proof that you don't
need to drink milk to ensure strong bones.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 17:58:15 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-09-12 4:59 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 9/12/2023 3:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> Many people who can tolerate milk still don't like it.
>>>
>> I don't, never did but as a kid we had to have a glass with dinner every
>> night.  That said, I can drink a good milkshake, eat ice cream, other
>> milk products.
>
>My parents eventually gave up on forcing me to drink milk with meals and
>started giving me tea. They could not use the nonsense about needing it
>to grow strong bones because I was a really big kid.

So you had lots of bone to maintain and needed to drink lots of milk.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 16:03:18 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-12 1:17 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-10, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>>> I've had it before, but this is the first time I made it. I wouldn't
>>>> have thought to add the peas, but that's how I saw it done on
>>>> aforementioned FaceBook post.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd have loved the meal. My wife would have loved it too, after picking
>>> every pea in it, out.
>>> I love creamed, canned shrimp on toast. My wife doesn't. She might like
>>> creamed fresh shrimp on toast. Someday, I'll float the idea. No peas! ;)
>>
>>
>> I have never understood why some people hate peas.
>
>I have never understood why some people hate milk.

Says the Princess who is very particular about her food. "I like
shrimp but only if they were caught doing the back stroke under a full
moon."

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 12:22:23 -0400, Dave Smith

<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2023-09-12 12:03 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never understood why some people hate peas.
>>
>> I have never understood why some people hate milk.
>
>It has to so with the way it leaves your through clogged with phlegm and
>then fills fills you with gas and loose bowls. It's not the taste. It's
>the way it affects your digestives system.

Clearly, your big bones are lactose intolerant.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Graham]

My sister can't stand it either. At school we used to get a 1/3pt of
milk at the mid-morning break. AIUI, Maggie Thatcher axed that program.
At home we only had milk in tea and occasionally when we had cereal for
breakfast.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:06:01 PM UTC-5, GM wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 3:58:07 PM UTC-5, Michael Trew wrote:
> > On 9/12/2023 3:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I have never understood why some people hate milk.
> > >>
> > >> It's not the taste. It's the way it affects your digestives system.
> > >
> > > Many people who can tolerate milk still don't like it.
> > That's me, present! Sometimes dairy does cause me minor phlegm, but
> > nothing terrible. I didn't grow up drinking milk or juice, only water,
> > and I thank my mother for that. I did pick up drinking hot black coffee
> > from grandma. A cup of strong pond water occasionally, but preferably
> > iced (no sugar).
> >
> > A glass of milk, "ice cold" or not, is very unappealing to me. I'll
> > finish the milk in my cereal bowl to not waste, but I really don't care
> > for it. I only use it for baking. The last of my milk went into
> > creamed chicken and biscuits. I'll buy another half gallon, eventually.
> I can't stand drinking milk... growing up it was on the table for most every meal, everyone
> drank it...
>
> And I still remember the icky smell from those school lunch milk cartons, the chocolate
> especially was gag - inducing...
>

I always loved milk, and at school they had whole milk.
The best to be had at home was 2%. It was government
subsidized, so it was only 2 cents for a half pint. For a
few cents I could buy extra milks, which I usually did.
Doing the math, 2 cents a half pint is 32 cents a gallon.
Using the inflation calculator from 1967 to the present,
that comes out to $2.93 a gallon, and yesterday I bought
a gallon at ALDI for $3.19.
>
Congress needs to pass a clean farm bill.
>
For some crazy reason, the price of milk in Kansas City
is over $6/gal, while 200 miles away in Wichita, it's less
than $4. Milk is cheapest in Louisville, at less than $3.
https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/RetailMilkPrices.pdf
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

[GM]

I remember "homo" milk from when I wuz a wee sprout...

> For some crazy reason, the price of milk in Kansas City
> is over $6/gal, while 200 miles away in Wichita, it's less
> than $4. Milk is cheapest in Louisville, at less than $3.
> https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/RetailMilkPrices.pdf

Hmmm... wonder if this has anything to do with price subsidies...

--
GM

[jmcquown]

My only comment about Micheal's creamed chicken over biscuits is I
didn't grow up eating it with bechamel/white sauce sauce including peas.
He's citing a recipe from FB by former poster 'sf' (Barbara).

I don't have a problem with steamed small fresh or frozen peas, but I
wouldn't want them added to creamed chicken. Merely a personal
preference. And definitely never canned peas. Steamed small fresh or
frozen peas are very nice as a vegetable side dish for lots of meals. :)

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-09-12 4:59 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 9/12/2023 3:33 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>>> Many people who can tolerate milk still don't like it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I don't, never did but as a kid we had to have a glass with

>> dinner every night.Ā  That said, I can drink a good

>> milkshake, eat ice cream, other milk products.
>
>
> My parents eventually gave up on forcing me to drink milk with
> meals and started giving me tea. They could not use the
> nonsense about  needing it to grow strong bones because I was a
> really big kid. I was almost as big as my two older brothers
> who were 3 and 5 years older and always the biggest kid in my
> class despite being the youngest. My thoracic surgeon commented
> on the size of my ribs.  I guess I am proof that you don't need
> to drink milk to ensure strong bones.
>

Look up giantism in the merk manual.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/12/2023 8:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
> On 9/12/2023 9:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> I have never understood why some people hate peas. I like them. AAMOF,
>> we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great. There
>> are a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive
>> tastes, and some that have weird textures, but... peas??
>
> My only comment about Micheal's creamed chicken over biscuits is I
> didn't grow up eating it with bechamel/white sauce sauce including peas.
> He's citing a recipe from FB by former poster 'sf' (Barbara).

No bachmeal sauce? How do you make creamed chicken?

> I don't have a problem with steamed small fresh or frozen peas, but I
> wouldn't want them added to creamed chicken. Merely a personal
> preference. And definitely never canned peas. Steamed small fresh or
> frozen peas are very nice as a vegetable side dish for lots of meals. :)

Normally, I'm not a fan of canned peas. They are "just OK". Mixed in
with the chicken, they were fine.

[Bryan Simmons]

Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
Don't you own a fucking freezer?"

--Bryan

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:20:29 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >
> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
>
> --Bryan
>

Some people do and some don't have a freezer. Peas might be something
they use perhaps once a year. I have a freezer and I don't have any peas in
it nor do I have any cans of it in my stock.

[songbird]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
...

> Some people do and some don't have a freezer. Peas might be something
> they use perhaps once a year. I have a freezer and I don't have any peas in
> it nor do I have any cans of it in my stock.

when i have frozen peas or frozen mixed vegetables on
hand it usually means i've been to the store and bought
something frozen and didn't bring an ice-pack or cold
bag with me to keep it cold enough on the homebound
commute. so i'll get a bag of frozen peas or mixed
veggies to go with the other frozen thing.


songbird

[Bryan Simmons]

We may or may not have peas in the freezer. My wife
and son like them. I don't. We sure as fuck don't have
canned peas. No one I know would eat canned peas
unless they were starving.

--Bryan

[dsi1]

My granddaughter was checking out our freezer and spotted a bag of peas. "I love peas!" she said. That was a most joyful proclamation. "That's great - we hate peas!, you're taking this home with you!" Allah is great.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 12:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 1:06:44 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:20:29 AM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> > >
>> > Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
>> > who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
>> > Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
>> >
>> > --Bryan
>> >
>> Some people do and some don't have a freezer. Peas might be something
>> they use perhaps once a year. I have a freezer and I don't have any peas in
>> it nor do I have any cans of it in my stock.
>>
>We may or may not have peas in the freezer.

Interesting, thanks.

--
Bruce
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[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 15:07:02 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

But what do you buy to keep the frozen vegetables cold?

--
Bruce
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[Bruce]

Please do not use His name in jest.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I liked them as a child but now I can't abide the little green orbs. However,
there are millions who are starving that would welcome a can of peas. They
can have my portion.

[jmcquown]

On 9/12/2023 11:49 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 9/12/2023 8:00 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 9/12/2023 9:13 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> I have never understood why some people hate peas. I like them. AAMOF,
>>> we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great.  There
>>> are a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive
>>> tastes, and some that have weird textures, but... peas??
>>
>> My only comment about Micheal's creamed chicken over biscuits is I
>> didn't grow up eating it with bechamel/white sauce sauce including peas.
>> He's citing a recipe from FB by former poster 'sf' (Barbara).
>
> No bachmeal sauce?  How do you make creamed chicken?
>

I wrote that sentence poorly. Yes, bechamel sauce, no to including peas
in creamed chicken. It has nothing to do with not liking peas, just not
in that dish.

Jill

[jmcquown]

I didn't quite follow what you wrote, songbird. How long of a commute
from the store do you have that requires an ice-pack to get a frozen
item home (presumeably without thawing)?

Jill

[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 17:38:32 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Oh, bechamel. I thought I'd learnt a new word in bachmeal.

--
Bruce
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[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 17:42:53 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

For us, 35 minutes and sometimes through 100F or 100+F. Things can
melt if you're not careful.

--
Bruce
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[Michael Trew]

On 9/13/2023 8:20 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"

I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me, I don't
know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
other thing!

[songbird]

jmcquown wrote:
...

> I didn't quite follow what you wrote, songbird. How long of a commute
> from the store do you have that requires an ice-pack to get a frozen
> item home (presumeably without thawing)?

it depends upon how far we're doing our errands, but
the long run is two stores so we have to last from
the first store to the home arrival which may be up to
two hours or more in between taking the cold item off
the shelves or out of the freezer and getting home.

i am much more concientious about such things, Mom
will let things get warmer and doesn't always bother
to put things i the cold bag with the ice-packs or
other frozen foods.


songbird

[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...

> But what do you buy to keep the frozen vegetables cold?

ice-cream. it's a communist comspiracy i tell ya!


songbird

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me, I don't
> know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
> other thing!

i can always tell the people who grew up rather well
off from those who haven't.

well off people will eat slow and will wait until
others have their food before starting to eat.

poorer people will eat food as soon as it hits the
table in front of them and they may eat a lot faster
because if you eat fast you have a chance of getting
seconds. also they're likely to not be too picky
about what it is that is put in front of them...

it's really hard to not eat fast - it's a bad habit.


songbird

[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...

> Please do not use His name in jest.

we all get smited at one time or another.

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[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:04:48 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7OvU5JIcI>

--
Bruce
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[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 21:05:37 -0400, songbird <song...@anthive.com>
wrote:

Don't tell Leo. He'll get upset!

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Ed P]

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[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...
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[dsi1]

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[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-13, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 9/13/2023 8:20 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>
>> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
>> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
>> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
>
> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me,

Sweet deal. People don't give me food.

> I don't
> know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
> other thing!

Canned ravioli? What are you--five years old?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-14, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
> ...
>> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
>> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me, I don't
>> know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
>> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
>> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
>> other thing!
>
> i can always tell the people who grew up rather well
> off from those who haven't.
>
> well off people will eat slow and will wait until
> others have their food before starting to eat.

I wait until everybody is served. That's just good manners.
Then I eat my serving quickly. Always have. I've never
been poor.

> poorer people will eat food as soon as it hits the
> table in front of them and they may eat a lot faster
> because if you eat fast you have a chance of getting
> seconds. also they're likely to not be too picky
> about what it is that is put in front of them...
>
> it's really hard to not eat fast - it's a bad habit.

It's a habit. I'm not sure it's a bad habit.

I eat quickly because I dislike the sensation of chewed
food in my mouth. Horace Fletcher can suck it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Maybe you can organise to feed yourself through a drip. Although I
wonder if you can buy bibimbap in drip form.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Bryan Simmons]

If you were eating canned ravioli mixed with canned
peas, you'd probable eat even faster.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Dave Smith]

On 2023-09-14 4:52 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-14, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
>> Michael Trew wrote:
>> ...
>>> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
>>> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me, I don't
>>> know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
>>> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
>>> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
>>> other thing!
>>
>> i can always tell the people who grew up rather well
>> off from those who haven't.
>>
>> well off people will eat slow and will wait until
>> others have their food before starting to eat.
>
> I wait until everybody is served. That's just good manners.
> Then I eat my serving quickly. Always have. I've never
> been poor.

Waiting until others have their food is a matter of manners.

When I was in the reserves the officers and NCOs always made sure that
their men got their food first. It was part of their job to ensure that
the people under them were taken care of. It was completely different
when I worked for the provincial government. Management there used their
rank to be served first. They were special and to hell with everyone else.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-09-12, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

> I have never understood why some people hate peas. I like them. AAMOF,
> we had fresh peas for supper last night and they were great. There are
> a number of vegetables that have some pretty sharp and offensive tastes,
> and some that have weird textures, but... peas??

It's a Fifties/Sixties thing for both of us. Did you ever eat peas from
a can? How about spinach?
She can't move past peas from a can.
I can't move past spinach from a can.

[Bruce]

On 14 Sep 2023 23:48:07 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

I wouldn't buy it easily, but I'd eat it.

--
Bruce
<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-09-14, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

> Canned ravioli? What are you--five years old?

Hey!

[songbird]

Bruce wrote:
...

> I wouldn't buy it easily, but I'd eat it.

canned spinach i can eat without issues. it's just
mushy green stuff. put a little vinegar on it and
that helps it more but not required.


songbird

[Michael Trew]

On 9/13/2023 9:12 PM, songbird wrote:
> Michael Trew wrote:
> ...

>> Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
>> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
>> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
>> other thing!
>
> i can always tell the people who grew up rather well
> off from those who haven't.
>
> well off people will eat slow and will wait until
> others have their food before starting to eat.
>
> poorer people will eat food as soon as it hits the
> table in front of them and they may eat a lot faster

I'm not sure if you're trying to imply that I grew up poor or not.
Either way, I was taught to wait for everyone to be served. That is
just proper manners. There's no need to eat like a dog unless you are
one. If you're literally starved, that's a different story.

I've found that I've gotten progressively more "picky" though time.
I'll eat just about anything, but I'd have to be near starved to eat
canned pasta or a frozen meal. Simply put, I just don't buy that stuff.
The quality is not worth it. I don't trust a lot of people's cooking,
either.

I still eat like I'm poor. I just don't like pre-made, canned, and
boxed crap. I could afford better than I do, but I make a small vat of
food, and it goes all week long, at least. I'm very stingy with meat
and expensive ingredients. Yes, I will go through the 10 lb bag of
russets, much to Jill's surprise. Potatoes are cheap and versatile (and
delicious).

[Michael Trew]

On 9/14/2023 4:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 9/13/2023 8:20 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>
>>> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
>>> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
>>
>> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
>> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me,
>
> Sweet deal. People don't give me food.

For some reason, my neighbors tend to do so. My elderly neighbor gives
me things that he gets from the food bank but doesn't want or need from
time to time.

>> I don't
>> know. Typically, the only canned food I buy is corn kernels. I don't
>> much care for canned peas on a plate, but mixed in with sauce and
>> seasoning, and I find it acceptable. Canned ravioli or stew is a whole
>> other thing!
>
> Canned ravioli? What are you--five years old?

That was a jab at Bryan... or whomever posted about it in the past.
Canned ravioli is a whole other thing, because it's disgusting, and I
won't eat it. Same as canned stew/soup. If I am not making it from
scratch, I probably won't eat it.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-09-15, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 9/14/2023 4:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-09-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>> On 9/13/2023 8:20 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
>>>> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>>> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
>>>
>>> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
>>> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me,
>>
>> Sweet deal. People don't give me food.
>
> For some reason, my neighbors tend to do so. My elderly neighbor gives
> me things that he gets from the food bank but doesn't want or need from
> time to time.

I _am_ the elderly neighbor. Anyway, I don't know any of my neighbors.
If I thought for a while, I might be able to come up with the name
of the couple across the street, whose mailbox is adjacent to mine
(and whose mail sometimes ends up in my mailbox). Or I might come
up with the names of people who lived there previously. It's a
crapshoot.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-09-15, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I _am_ the elderly neighbor. Anyway, I don't know any of my neighbors.
> If I thought for a while, I might be able to come up with the name
> of the couple across the street, whose mailbox is adjacent to mine

I've never been inside the house of any of my close
neighbours, but I do have all their cell phone numbers.
(And they have my cell number.)

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 5:07:45 AM UTC-4, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2023-09-15, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> > On 9/14/2023 4:49 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> On 2023-09-13, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
> >>> On 9/13/2023 8:20 AM, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Canned peas are repulsive. Period. My question to anyone
> >>>> who buys canned peas is, "What the fuck is wrong with you?
> >>>> Don't you own a fucking freezer?"
> >>>
> >>> I might have a bag of frozen peas in the cellar freezer (the upstairs
> >>> freezer doesn't do much). The can was probably given to me,
> >>
> >> Sweet deal. People don't give me food.
> >
> > For some reason, my neighbors tend to do so. My elderly neighbor gives
> > me things that he gets from the food bank but doesn't want or need from
> > time to time.
> I _am_ the elderly neighbor.

Just you don't forget the husband

[dsi1]

On Saturday, September 9, 2023 at 10:13:29 AM UTC-10, Michael Trew wrote:
> It might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I actually cooked today.
> Homemade creamed chicken and biscuits from scratch. The biscuits came
> out very well. I should not have used "honey chicken", but I used what I
> had. Overall, not bad at all.
>
> This was inspired by a semi-recent Barbara Llorente post on the
> FaceBook. That, and a some leftover cooked chicken breast from last
> Sunday that really needed to be used up.
>
> Pic: https://postimg.cc/gallery/51MmN6K
>
> Is there anything cooking today in RFC-land?

Breakfast today was omelette du fromage. I used a pan from home. It was a newish Cuisinart stainless steel skillet with a non-stick coating. I don't use it much at home because I prefer my cheap Korean pans there. It actually performed quite well on this range. I used the smaller burner.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/UD4G79fna83eRv2b9

[GM]

U R approaching "Squirtz territory" with this...

Are you on painkillers...???

--
GM

[Ed P]

On 9/15/2023 4:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>
> Breakfast today was omelette du fromage. I used a pan from home. It was a newish Cuisinart stainless steel skillet with a non-stick coating. I don't use it much at home because I prefer my cheap Korean pans there. It actually performed quite well on this range. I used the smaller burner.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/UD4G79fna83eRv2b9

Sounds fancy. I had scrambled eggs and cheese and did not need a French
lesson.

[dsi1]

People like me have a problem with saying "cheese omelette." We're no longer programmed to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kArCRjT29w

[Bruce]

Just make sure you never say that you want extra au jus.

--
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<https://sd.keepcalms.com/i-w600/keep-calm-and-in-bruce-we-trust.jpg>

[jmcquown]

Canned spinach is horrific mushy green stuff. So are canned collards
and canned turnip greens. Adding vinegar to "help" is hardly an
improvement. If you have "issues" with it I suggest you don't eat it.
Just because it's green doesn't mean anything.

Jill

[Bryan Simmons]

Songbird has the tastes of a barnyard swine.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[Bruce]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 18:26:45 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Songbird, I think you have just been ordered by Constable McBiddy not
to eat canned spinach anymore and to stop suggesting that adding
vinegar helps.

--
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[Hank Rogers]

Your majesty is talking to commoners. They often eat canned goods.

Next time you leave Dataw palace, check out the shelves at
publix. Several aisles of canned goods they sell to the paupers.

Your majesty probably didn't notice, being too preoccupied with
serious matters of state.

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[Janet]

In article <e2d22678-9080-4637-9072-
be66a6...@googlegroups.com>, dsi...@hawaiiantel.net
says...

>
> On Friday, September 15, 2023 at 10:48:45 AM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> > On 9/15/2023 4:21 PM, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Breakfast today was omelette du fromage. I used a pan from home. It was a newish Cuisinart stainless steel skillet with a non-stick coating. I don't use it much at home because I prefer my cheap Korean pans there. It actually performed quite well on this range. I used the smaller burner.
> > >
> > > https://photos.app.goo.gl/UD4G79fna83eRv2b9
> > Sounds fancy. I had scrambled eggs and cheese and did not need a French
> > lesson.
>
> People like me have a problem with saying "cheese omelette."

If you hope to impress people like yourself, best
improve your French.

Omelette au fromage, not du.

Janet UK

[Bruce]

Yes.

Omelette au fromage = cheese omelette
Omelette du fromage = omelette of the cheese

But it beats asking for extra au jus.

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[jmcquown]

Hey, I'm not surprised. :) I simply couldn't go through a 10 lb. bag of
russets before they started to sprout like crazy and get soft and mushy
and otherwise unpleasant.

Jill

[dsi1]

I already know that. It doesn't matter.

[dsi1]

In the US:

Omelette du fromage = funny
Omelette au fromage = not funny

That's the breaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaHRduxUDxo

[Bruce]

Just stick to English.

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[Bruce]

I don't think it's funny in the US. Most people won't know what you're
talking about and the few who do, won't know you're saying it wrong.

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[Michael Trew]

Well, in this case, my elderly neighbor is poor, never married, and gets
food from a food bank. The poor guy can barely walk. He's never owned
a computer, a microwave oven, air conditioner, etc. The inside of his
house hasn't really changed since he moved in circa 1971. His television
set (only gets basic local cable) might be from the 90's. Heck, the guy
doesn't even have a telephone.

I'm sure he's quite lonely. Honestly, he's interesting to talk to. His
only employment through life was buying and selling junk at flea
markets, and everything he knows, he learned decades ago from older
folks. He's a genuine time capsule. Talking to him is like talking to
a person who was born in the late 1800's... It's almost uncanny. Very
impressive knowledge of old hand tools, also.

[Michael Trew]

On 9/15/2023 6:26 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
> Canned spinach is horrific mushy green stuff. So are canned collards and
> canned turnip greens. Adding vinegar to "help" is hardly an improvement.
> If you have "issues" with it I suggest you don't eat it. Just because
> it's green doesn't mean anything.
>
> Jill

Popeye would not agree.

https://postimg.cc/bDS1HtTj

[Michael Trew]

I dunno, all of my neighbors are rather friendly. I've been in several
of their homes, multiple times. That can also be a curse, when they
need help, or just want to have a long conversation right when I get
home out of my car, from a tiring day... And all I want to do is sit
down alone in quiet.

[dsi1]

You fail to see the humor in this. I can't help that. One can go into any restaurant in an English speaking country and say, in a loud French-Canadian or exaggerated upper-crust British accent "I'll have one omelette of the cheese, please!" and get a laugh. That's Monty Python funny right there.
Just to clarify, "omelette du fromage" is a funny line from an American cartoon. An "omelette au fromage" is one of my favorite dishes.

https://groups.google.com/g/rec.food.cooking/c/XylJ8kQ27OY/m/gIYqup-OAAAJ

[dsi1]

You're certainly right about that. I called up my friend about a leak in my shower. He said he'd come by sometime today. The problem with that guy is that he knows too much. I feel guilty about taking up his time.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 17:15:07 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Ok, that's convincing.

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