*Baked* buffalo wings?

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

PKimMai wrote:
>
> I'm really fond of Kraft's "Shake 'n' Bake" Buffalo Wings mix, but I'd like to
> experament with making my own. Unfortunately, all the other Buffalo Wing
> recipes I come across require frying. Does anyone out there have a baked
> Buffalo Wing recipe?
>
> Thanks,
> Paula/

I always thought that if you experiment, then you aren't making the dish with that name anymore. You're making something new.
(this is an over 20 year-old post)

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm a little more lenient.

If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
"Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
in butter and Frank's hot sauce.

I got a recipe for "Hamburg Wings" from a friend who lived in Hamburg, MI.
They're spiced, baked, and then sauced. Pretty good, although they take
a long time to cook.

It's difficult to distinguish thoroughly baked chicken wings from
deep-fried wings anyway. Provided your idea of Buffalo Wings does
not include a coating. Which it shouldn't.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
> "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
> I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
> in butter and Frank's hot sauce.

Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.

I would argue that deep frying is not an essential or necessary part
of the requirements for buffalo wings.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
> > "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
> > I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
> > in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
>
> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.

I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
_this_ for lunch."

Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
"boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

A long, long time ago... I made some excellent buffalo-style wings in
the oven. Okay, actually under the broiler in my electric oven. I used
a slotted broiler pan and set the oven shelf very low. I lined the
broiler pan with foil for easy cleanup. I cut the wings, separated the
"drummie" from the wing. Discarded the tips, they aren't worth the
time, no not even for stock. I tossed the wings and drummies in a
mixture of melted butter with Tabasco Sauce then dredged in seasoned
flour. Let them set on waxed paper. I arranged them on the slotted
broiler pan and put them under the broiler. Brushed with the butter and
Tobasco sauce. I do think the dredging in flour helped with the
crisping when I cooked them under the broiler. I don't recall the exact
time but I'm thinking 25 minutes and constant basting. They came out
nicely crispy, delicious, and no deep frying.

I wouldn't bother with it again because chicken wings are way too much
work for what little meat you get.

Jill

[Thomas]

I do the frequently in my toaster oven. On little rach that fits in the provided pan.
Turn after 20 min.
Sauce at the end. Crispy as fried.

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>>> If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
>>> "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
>>> I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
>>> in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
>>
>> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
>> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
>
> I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
> need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
> _this_ for lunch."

Fake Buffalo Wings covers every food on Earth.

I had a fake roast beef sandwich for breakfast. It was 2 eggs, ham,
and cheese.

> Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
> "boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.

Hence my second comment about them having to be wings. You called
your breast strips wings....

-sw

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
chicken, 3 piece with two joints. Now they only sell the chopped up
rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
them.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
><angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> > If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
>>> > "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
>>> > I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
>>> > in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
>>> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
>>
>>I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
>>need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
>>_this_ for lunch."
>>
>>Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
>>"boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
>>
>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>chicken, 3 piece with two joints.

3? Chickens only have 2 wings.

>Now they only sell the chopped up
>rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
>in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
>the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
>them.

Factory chicken?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> ><angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
> >>> > "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
> >>> > I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
> >>> > in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
> >>>
> >>> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
> >>> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
> >>
> >>I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
> >>need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
> >>_this_ for lunch."
> >>
> >>Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
> >>"boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
> >>
> >>Cindy Hamilton
> >
> >Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
> >stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
> >chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
>
> 3? Chickens only have 2 wings.

A chicken wing has two joints that correspond to the human wrist and
elbow, separating three sections that correspond to the human hand,
forearm, and upper arm.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Anybody who isn't trying to pick a fight would recognize my "Fake
Buffalo Wings" as a higher-protein, lower-fat alternative to wings.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

That's how you can tell they're related to us.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Every animal on Earth is related to us, even fish.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:43:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 3:38:55 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>> >> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>Cindy Hamilton
>> >> >
>> >> >Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>> >> >stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>> >> >chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
>> >>
>> >> 3? Chickens only have 2 wings.
>> >
>> >A chicken wing has two joints that correspond to the human wrist and
>> >elbow, separating three sections that correspond to the human hand,
>> >forearm, and upper arm.
>>
>> That's how you can tell they're related to us.
>
>Every animal on Earth is related to us, even fish.

Wonderful, isn't it?

[graham]

"We share half our genome with the banana. This is more evident in some
of my acquaintances than others."
Sir Robert May, President of the Royal Society of London.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Is that scientific evidence or from John's Church of Facts? Maybe you
can be an ordained minister in his church.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yet you eat fish, you cannibal.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 13:06:10 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

lol

[Hank Rogers]

Good sniffin there Fruce!

[Hank Rogers]

Yes. even amoebas and plankton. All life came from the seas.

Except Druce. God made him and imbued him with ingredient lists,
long before the little cockroach hatched.

[Hank Rogers]

The church in da Loo is on hold. When cardinal kuth gets the roof
done, and the steeple installed, and gets elected mayor, things
will change.

We must be patient and wait for da little brown church in da Loo to
open.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-11 2:53 p.m., Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>> Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
>> "boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
> stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
> chicken, 3 piece with two joints. Now they only sell the chopped up
> rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
> in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
> the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
> them.
>

I have no trouble finding intact wings for sale.

[Bryan Simmons]

A drier, more tasteless, less appealing alternative to wings. I make that crap for my son who doesn't like bones. I shouldn't complain, it's less than a third the cost. I know chickens are animals, and they need all their parts to be a chicken, but I wouldn't care if they didn't have anything but wings.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

Each wing has three parts, the drummie (with the humerus bone), the flat (with the radius and ulna bones) and the tip.

--Bryan

[Sheldon Martin]

We don't like wings. When I was young simmered chicken wing meat was
stripped off and fed to toddlers, they were fished out of the chicken
soup. I don't see the attraction to chickens wings, they are mostly
skin, fat, and gristle... I consider the wings trash.
We very rarely eat chicken, cleaning and preparinmg raw poultry
disgusts me to the point that I can't eat it. Maybe twice a year we
bring home a rotisseried chicken, but a good part goes out to feed the
critters. We don't consider poultry food fit for humans. I roast a
small turkey for Thanksgiving only because it's traditional, but most
goes out in the yard to feed critters. Up to me I'd roast a fresh ham
for holidays. Actually I'd much prefer a Boar's head Genoa salami
sandwich on fresh baked semolina bread.

[Bryan Simmons]

You've heard of omnivorous
You've heard of vegetarianism
You've heard of vegan
You've heard of fruitarian
But now, straight from the twisted brain of yours truly, here comes
Amputarianism.  Amputarianism fits in between omnivorousness and
vegetarianism.
You can eat meat, but only if the animal is not killed to produce the
meat.  You are allowed to eat animals that have died of natural
causes, but also parts of animals that have been removed from the
animal in such a way that it does not cause the death of the animal.
Example:  Chicken wings.  Chickens really have no use for wings,
since they don't fly anyway.  An amputarian can enjoy the delicious flavor
of Buffalo-style wings, guilt-free.  Egg laying chickens don't really
*need* legs either.  Heck, they just sit in a cage all day anyway.
Voila! drumsticks!
Chickens are not the only animals that can do fine w/o certain body
parts.  Domestic turkeys don't need wings either.  Pigs should be
able to get along fine w/ one peg leg.  Can you say "HAM"????  The ears on
pigs, cattle, sheep, etc. are completely superfluous in an
environment where there are humans to protect them from predators.  Tails too can be bobbed to make fine soup bones.
Believe it or not, liver tissue grows back if a portion of it is
surgically removed.   Mmmmm, liver and onions.
Amputarianism, remember, you heard it here first.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

A mushroom is more closely related to a human than to a stalk of celery.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Bruce]

Times 2.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:43:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>Maybe twice a year we bring home a rotisseried chicken, but a good part goes
>out to feed the critters. We don't consider poultry food fit for humans.

Yet you eat it twice a year. Strange. I never eat food that isn't fit
for humans.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-11 5:43 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 16:54:08 -0400, Dave Smith

hem.
>>
>> I have no trouble finding intact wings for sale.
>
> We don't like wings. When I was young simmered chicken wing meat was
> stripped off and fed to toddlers, they were fished out of the chicken
> soup. I don't see the attraction to chickens wings, they are mostly
> skin, fat, and gristle... I consider the wings trash.

So did a lot of people. That is why they were so cheap. The Anchor bar
started a major trend with their deep fried wings tossed in hot sauce. I
had a friend who started the first NY style bar in the Niagara peninsula
and he made a real name for himself with those wings. Unfortunately,
the became very popular and the once dirt cheap chicken wing became a
much more expensive cut of meat. Yes, they are mostly skin and fat, and
that is why they taste so good deep fried and tossed in hot sauce.

> We very rarely eat chicken, cleaning and preparinmg raw poultry
> disgusts me to the point that I can't eat it. Maybe twice a year we
> bring home a rotisseried chicken, but a good part goes out to feed the
> critters. We don't consider poultry food fit for humans.

Your loss. I love chicken.

[Bruce]

And then there are people who eat fruits and nuts, but only if they've
fallen of the plant or tree. They eschew the violent act of manually
separating the fruit or nut from its owner.

[Bryan Simmons]

Plants are related to us too, just not as closely.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

Well Sheldon, a lot of folks consider you to be trash.

--Bryan

[Sqwertz]

But if you're going to pick nits about what can be considered
"buffalo wings" needing to be fried, then I can pick palmetto bugs
about you calling breast portions "wings".

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:40:48 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> A drier, more tasteless, less appealing alternative to wings. I
> make that crap for my son who doesn't like bones. I shouldn't
> complain, it's less than a third the cost. I know chickens are
> animals, and they need all their parts to be a chicken, but I
> wouldn't care if they didn't have anything but wings.

Are you advocating farm-raised pteradactyls?

Thighs are the best. All dark meat flavor and with 4X the meat to
fat/cholesterol ratio.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
> stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
> chicken, 3 piece with two joints. Now they only sell the chopped up
> rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
> in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
> the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
> them.

Those actually have three joints. 90% of the breast joint is still
attached to a 3-section wing (at least here in the U.S. and still
readily available in 5-8lb bags).

-sw

[Bryan Simmons]

I originally posted my "Amputarian" thing to a vegan NG, and some guy got really bent out of shape, and wrote something like, "How would you like it if I cut off *your* leg?" Others on the group were like, dude, it was a joke.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

Sheldon isn't fully human.

--Bryan

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Each wing has three parts, the drummie (with the humerus bone),
> the flat (with the radius and ulna bones) and the tip.

You of all people didn't know they're called phalanges?!?!?

Actually, John is our resident anatomy expert who should have jumped
in for that one. I think he's cowering in the corner.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 17:43:33 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> We don't like wings. When I was young simmered chicken wing meat was
> stripped off and fed to toddlers, they were fished out of the chicken
> soup. I don't see the attraction to chickens wings, they are mostly
> skin, fat, and gristle... I consider the wings trash.
> We very rarely eat chicken, cleaning and preparinmg raw poultry
> disgusts me to the point that I can't eat it. Maybe twice a year we
> bring home a rotisseried chicken, but a good part goes out to feed the
> critters. We don't consider poultry food fit for humans.

Yet twice in the last year you've bragged about getting chicken
titty cutlets on sale and what you did/going to do with them.

That's what great about senility - you always forget what you
supposedly hate and can watch the same reruns of Murder She Wrote
day in and day out.

-sw

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons

Absence of sense of humour is also in this newsgroup, especially among
the big killfile users.

[Bruce]

That would explain it.

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:16:35 -0700 (PDT), bruce2...@gmail.com
wrote:

>PKimMai wrote:
>>
>> I'm really fond of Kraft's "Shake 'n' Bake" Buffalo Wings mix, but I'd like to
>> experament with making my own. Unfortunately, all the other Buffalo Wing
>> recipes I come across require frying. Does anyone out there have a baked
>> Buffalo Wing recipe?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Paula/
>
>I always thought that if you experiment, then you aren't making the dish with that name anymore. You're making something new.
>(this is an over 20 year-old post)

You guys must have big ovens in America. And an issue with rampant
genetic mutations with your wildlife.

[Dave Smith]

Thighs and drumsticks are the pieces best suited for Tandoori Chicken.

[Hank Rogers]

But you live in Canada, a special place made by god for special people.

You could shit in your hands, and it would turn into a giant gold
nugget. The rest of us would just have a handful of feces.

The rest of us are not canadian and not as fortunate.

[Hank Rogers]

Bruce wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:43:10 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:55:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>>> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>>>> stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>>>> chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
>>>
>>> 3? Chickens only have 2 wings.
>>>
>>>> Now they only sell the chopped up
>>>> rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
>>>> in the cooking. I have, thankfully, found one store that still sells
>>>> the wing intact, so I do a short drive every so often to stock up on
>>>> them.
>>>
>>> Factory chicken?
>>
>> Each wing has three parts, the drummie (with the humerus bone), the flat (with the radius and ulna bones) and the tip.
>
> Times 2.
>

Chickens only have one butt hole to sniff Druce.

[Sqwertz]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:43:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 3:38:55 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>

>>>On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 2:55:00 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>>>> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>>>

>>>> >>Cindy Hamilton

>>>> >
>>>> >Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>>>> >stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>>>> >chicken, 3 piece with two joints.
>>>>
>>>> 3? Chickens only have 2 wings.
>>>

>>>A chicken wing has two joints that correspond to the human wrist and
>>>elbow, separating three sections that correspond to the human hand,
>>>forearm, and upper arm.
>>
>> That's how you can tell they're related to us.
>
> Every animal on Earth is related to us, even fish.

And even mushrooms. But they don't have arms and legs and wings.

-sw

[Hank Rogers]

Oh shit druce ... Has someone filtered yoose, then bitched?

Must be hell to be such a sensitive whining bitch.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 18:58:29 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>

wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:43:22 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 3:38:55 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:30:45 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>A chicken wing has two joints that correspond to the human wrist and
>>>>elbow, separating three sections that correspond to the human hand,
>>>>forearm, and upper arm.
>>>
>>> That's how you can tell they're related to us.
>>
>> Every animal on Earth is related to us, even fish.
>
>And even mushrooms. But they don't have arms and legs and wings.

Ok, but they're distant cousins at most.

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

On Saturday, July 11 2020 15:53:10 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:

>On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
><angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>
>>> > If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
>>> > "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
>>> > I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
>>> > in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
>>>
>>> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
>>> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
>>
>>I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
>>need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
>>_this_ for lunch."
>>

>>Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
>>"boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
>>

>>Cindy Hamilton
>
>Don't know if it is the same in the US but about a year ago they
>stopped selling 'real' chicken wings, just as they come off the
>chicken, 3 piece with two joints.

>Now they only sell the chopped up
>rubbish. Since I like to bake them plain, all the liquid drains out
>in the cooking.

You could let them soak in an oil and herb marinade overnight before cooking the next day.

[Ed Pawlowski]

It would be painful to have your nuts manually removed.

There was a place in town that advertised discount circumcision. It was
a rip off.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I visited a farm once and there was a pig with a wooden leg. I asked
the farmer and he said that pit saved out lives by alerting us when the
house was on fire. So, I asked, is that when he lost his leg? No, he
replied, we had ham for Easter but when you have a pig that good you
don't want to eat him all at once.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 8:05:18 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> It would be painful to have your nuts manually removed.
>
> There was a place in town that advertised discount circumcision. It was
> a rip off.
>

*GUFFAW*

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 8:09:48 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> I visited a farm once and there was a pig with a wooden leg. I asked
> the farmer and he said that pit saved out lives by alerting us when the
> house was on fire. So, I asked, is that when he lost his leg? No, he
> replied, we had ham for Easter but when you have a pig that good you
> don't want to eat him all at once.
>

G r o a n.

[Hank Rogers]

Popeye is so finicky. I wonder if he's actually an old woman.

[Bruce]

Don't encourage him! You could be creating a monster!

[Gary]

Bryan Simmons wrote:
> Each wing has three parts, the drummie (with the humerus bone), the flat (with the radius and ulna bones) and the tip.

"'Keep the tip,' said the leper to the hooker."

[Gary]

Oddly, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>
> We don't like wings.

> We very rarely eat chicken, cleaning and preparing raw poultry

> disgusts me to the point that I can't eat it.

> We don't consider poultry food fit for humans. I roast a
> small turkey for Thanksgiving only because it's traditional, but most
> goes out in the yard to feed critters.

Odd tradition you have - cooking and eating something
that neither of you care for. That's one small turkey
that died for nothing.

> Up to me I'd roast a fresh ham
> for holidays.

Neither of you like poultry. You do all the cooking.
I'd say it *IS* all up to you what to cook for
a holiday meal.

> Actually I'd much prefer a Boar's head Genoa salami
> sandwich on fresh baked semolina bread.

So make that next Thanksgiving or Christmas.

One Thanksgiving, too lazy to cook the traditional
meal, I made and ate 2 peanut butter and jam sandwiches.
I was happy with the meal but did miss all the leftovers
of a turkey meal.

[Gary]

Sqwertz wrote:
> Thighs are the best. All dark meat flavor and with 4X the meat to
> fat/cholesterol ratio.

I agree. And for anyone that likes "buffalo wings,"
try "buffalo thighs" sometime. You won't be disappointed.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 5:40:52 PM UTC-4, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 2:34:37 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:45:13 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:

> > > On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
> > > >>> "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
> > > >>> I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
> > > >>> in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
> > > >>
> > > >> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
> > > >> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
> > > >
> > > > I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
> > > > need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
> > > > _this_ for lunch."
> > >

> > > Fake Buffalo Wings covers every food on Earth.
> > >
> > > I had a fake roast beef sandwich for breakfast. It was 2 eggs, ham,
> > > and cheese.

> > >
> > > > Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
> > > > "boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
> > >

> > > Hence my second comment about them having to be wings. You called
> > > your breast strips wings....
> > >
> > > -sw
> >
> > Anybody who isn't trying to pick a fight would recognize my "Fake
> > Buffalo Wings" as a higher-protein, lower-fat alternative to wings.

>
> A drier, more tasteless, less appealing alternative to wings. I make that crap for my son who doesn't like bones. I shouldn't complain, it's less than a third the cost. I know chickens are animals, and they need all their parts to be a chicken, but I wouldn't care if they didn't have anything but wings.
> >

> > Cindy Hamilton
>
> --Bryan

Everybody's different. I eat a lot of grilled chicken breast, and I
know how to cook it so it isn't dry. Other cuts are too greasy and
slimy for me. Putting butter and Frank's hot sauce on some leftover
chicken breast is just a way to mix things up.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
>
> Discarded the tips, they aren't worth the
> time, no not even for stock.

Wanna bet?

I always save chicken wings (all 3 sections) for
stock. Even the skin on the tip contains flavor.
No need to waste the tips.

Never heard from you about making stock. You buy
it in cans or boxes. You don't fool me. :)

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> It would be painful to have your nuts manually removed.
>
> There was a place in town that advertised discount circumcision. It was
> a rip off.

ARRGGGH!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 6:23:36 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 12:34:34 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 1:45:13 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> >> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 09:59:55 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 12:31:56 PM UTC-4, Sqwertz wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 08:24:08 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> If you call a dish "Buffalo Wings", they'd better be deep-fried.
> >>>>> "Baked Buffalo Wings" is pretty much exactly what it says--no surprises.
> >>>>> I make "Fake Buffalo Wings": leftover grilled chicken breast reheated
> >>>>> in butter and Frank's hot sauce.
> >>>>
> >>>> Shouldn't you call them reheated buffalo chicken breast pieces? Or
> >>>> call them Wyngs? You can't call them wings if they're not.
> >>>
> >>> I should think "Fake" pretty much covers the situation. I don't
> >>> need to call them much of anything except, "Oh, hey. Let's do
> >>> _this_ for lunch."
> >>
> >> Fake Buffalo Wings covers every food on Earth.
> >>
> >> I had a fake roast beef sandwich for breakfast. It was 2 eggs, ham,
> >> and cheese.
> >>
> >>> Breaded and fried chicken breast strips are sometimes called
> >>> "boneless wings" in restaurants, which is simply incorrect.
> >>
> >> Hence my second comment about them having to be wings. You called
> >> your breast strips wings....
> >>
> >> -sw
> >
> > Anybody who isn't trying to pick a fight would recognize my "Fake
> > Buffalo Wings" as a higher-protein, lower-fat alternative to wings.
>

> But if you're going to pick nits about what can be considered
> "buffalo wings" needing to be fried, then I can pick palmetto bugs
> about you calling breast portions "wings".
>
> -sw

Go ahead. When I start selling my "Faux Buffalo Wings", I'll take
your comments under advisement.

Perhaps I'll switch to calling them Beef Wellington.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bryan Simmons]

*Faux* Beef Wellington.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

On Saturday, July 11, 2020 at 5:29:57 PM UTC-5, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Jul 2020 14:40:48 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:
>

> > A drier, more tasteless, less appealing alternative to wings. I
> > make that crap for my son who doesn't like bones. I shouldn't
> > complain, it's less than a third the cost. I know chickens are
> > animals, and they need all their parts to be a chicken, but I
> > wouldn't care if they didn't have anything but wings.
>

> Are you advocating farm-raised pteradactyls?
>

> Thighs are the best. All dark meat flavor and with 4X the meat to
> fat/cholesterol ratio.

The drummie is just like breast meat on a bone, but the meat in the middle portion of the wing is unique. https://www.isetan.com.sg/chicken-middle-wings-400g/ Plus, the skin on that section fries up perfectly, naked fried in the deep fryer at 375F, and I enjoy the skin way more than any chicken *meat*. I do like thigh meat more than breast except for making chicken soup.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

You can make Buffalo sauce Cadillac by subbing Cholula for the Frank's.

--Bryan

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

I wonder if Pizza Hut and Dominoes deep fry and then bake their wings.

[Cindy Hamilton]

The evidence suggests that Pizza Hut only bakes them. I don't eat
Domino's.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Mushrooms are a bit different in my area.
https://www.hostpic.org/images/2007122134570095.jpg

[Bryan Simmons]

Using the drummies and tips to make stock is one thing, but the middle section is the single most prized, and per pound, the most expensive part of the chicken. Deep fry them. The tips are nice fried too. The drummies are good for stock because of the nice bone.

--Bryan

[Sqwertz]

Pizza Hut iunstalled deep fryers in all the restaurants in the early
201x's so they could co-locate and/or serve the same wings as
WingStreet. They used to bake them in the pizza oven prior to that.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

Hmm. I wonder why they're so flabby.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sqwertz]

On Sun, 12 Jul 2020 09:38:00 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Using the drummies and tips to make stock is one thing, but the
> middle section is the single most prized, and per pound, the most
> expensive part of the chicken. Deep fry them. The tips are nice
> fried too. The drummies are good for stock because of the nice
> bone.

When they sell them disjointed here, the drummies are always
$.20/more per pound. And are always the first to disappear at the
Chinese buffet, leaving only the forewing portion.

So "prized" is in the eyes of eater.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

It certainly is. When my husband and I split an order of wings, he
eats the drummies and I eat the forewing.

Cindy Hamilton

[Leo]

On 2020 Jul 11, , Bryan Simmons wrote
(in article<70bad1e8-5a67-4b36...@googlegroups.com>):

> Amputarianism, remember, you heard it here first.

And the old joke’s punchline is, “You just don’t eat a good pig like
that, all at once.”

leo

[Bryan Simmons]

I tell a very long version of that joke, with two brothers, one of whom becomes a lawyer and lives in New York, and the other who moves to Iowa to become a farmer. The punchline is, "You city fellers ain as smart as ya thing y'are. If ya had a pig what was at good, ya wouldn't et im all at once, now wouldja?"
>
> leo

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

At the Chinese grocery store, the middle portions are significantly more per pound.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

[dsi1]

The Chinese will eat chicken differently than you or I. My OCD Chinese friend will leave behind a small pile of clean bones when eating a chicken. Placing the bones in a single, neat, pile is important. My other friend said it was a pleasure watching him eat a chicken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25SLTtOXGEU

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 Ukelele wrote:
>
>The Chinese will eat chicken differently than you or I. My OCD Chinese friend
>will leave behind a small pile of clean bones when eating a chicken. Placing the
>bones in a single, neat, pile is important. My other friend said it was a pleasure
>watching him eat a chicken.

How is that posssible when you're a Chink too.

[Bryan Simmons]

I leave very clean bones, whether it is chicken, steak, lamb, or a pork chop.

--Bryan