nb
That doesn't make intuitive sense. Wouldn't putting air into it
make it fluffier and less hard?
gloria p
No. What ice cream hard is not enough cream or butter fat. The more it has
just milk, the harder the ice cream.
Steve
But, if you
>>> don't like stiff, hard, no-mouth-feel, not-even-as-good-as-ice-milk, I
>>> recommend passing on their natural vanilla.
>>>
>>> nb
>>
>> That doesn't make intuitive sense. Wouldn't putting air into it
>> make it fluffier and less hard?
>>
>> gloria p
>
> No. What ice cream hard is not enough cream or butter fat. The more it has
> just milk, the harder the ice cream.
>
> Steve
Thanks, I didn't realize that.
gloria p
> I recall a thread not too long ago where it was claimed Blue Bunny
> Premium Natural Vanilla had no whacky synthetic ingredients, that it
> was all natural. Well, the carton I just bought confirms this. Well,
> it has one other natural ingredient not listed. AIR!! ....and lots of
> it. I'd go so far as to say it has 100% overrun, the max allowable
> under law. While this may be natural and have pretty good flavor,
> it's the WORST ice cream I've ever eaten and the only ice cream that
> is so bad I threw the remains away uneaten.
LOL nb! What did you expect from something with a name like "Blue
Bunny"?
> Don't get me wrong. I
> like BB, generally, their pistachio nut being my fave.
>
Well at least you found something to like about that brand. :)
> But, if you
> don't like stiff, hard, no-mouth-feel, not-even-as-good-as-ice-milk, I
> recommend passing on their natural vanilla.
I guess you won't be applying to head their marketing department.
--
Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get.
sf, what exactly is it with you that you feel the need to belittle
certain posters here when they have simply posted a simple question or
discussion topic. What, were you bullied at school and are now taking
revenge on folk here on Usenet?
Pretty darn sad I'd have to say....For a split second there, I
actually felt a little bit sorry for you. Don't worry though, the
moment passed as quickly as it came.
Kind Regards,
Brian Anasta
>>> But, if you don't like stiff, hard, no-mouth-feel,
>>> not-even-as-good-as-ice-milk, I recommend passing on their natural
>>> vanilla.
>>
>> I guess you won't be applying to head their marketing department.
>
> sf, what exactly is it with you that you feel the need to belittle certain
> posters here when they have simply posted a simple question or discussion
> topic.
So *you* think that someone who calls the product in question, "stiff, hard,
no-mouth-feel, not-even-as-good-as-ice-milk" *should* head up the marketing
department for that product? Do you have any clue how stupid that makes you
look? Try THINKING before you post again; your posts are not worthy of any
discussion group on Usenet. They might be well-suited to a discussion group
of brain-damaged alcoholics in shackles, though. Have you thought about
joining such a group? I'm sure they'd welcome you with open knives.
Also, before you post again, you really ought to acquaint yourself with the
concept of badinage. What sf wrote is an example of badinage, and it went
right over your head -- much like at least 90% of the conversations here.
Bob
sf,
Pretty darn sad I'd have to say....For a split second there, I
actually felt a little bit sorry for you. Don't worry though, the
moment passed as quickly as it came.
what exactly is it with you that you feel the need to belittlecertain
posters here when they have simply posted a simple question ordiscussion
topic. What, were you bullied at school and are now taking
revenge on folk here on Usenet?
Kind Regards,
Brian Anasta
Brian, what exactly is it with you that you feel the need to belittlecertain
I remember the discussion being about Blue Bell ice cream. A quick
check with Google gave the date as about March 25. A quick scan gave
most of the Blue Bunny posts prior to 2005.
To Blue Bell ice cream fans. Join their Ice Cream Country Club. You
can get a $1.00 off coupon each month. Got one last month and the
local store had the ice cream for $3.68 per 64 ounce carton.
--
Susan N.
"Moral indignation is in most cases two percent moral,
48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
Vittorio De Sica, Italian movie director (1901-1974)
They have a very good reputation. I don't know if they sell it around
here, I haven't looked, but I've certainly heard of them.
nancy
> Well at least you found something to like about that brand. :)
It's a new brand, too me. I don't recall ever seeing it in SFBA. It
has a good rep and most of its premium ice creams are very good. It's
my 2nd fave behind Hagen Daaz.
The only reason I can see for the huge overrun in BB natural vanilla
is to increase the profit margin after using high quality ingredients
initially. Gotta pay for those real vanilla beans somehow. I recall
Bryer's natural vanilla was very similar. All natural ingredients,
but max overrun and very ice-milk like mouthfeel. I guess having real
vanilla beans AND high milk-fat puts the product out of the price point
they're targeting.
I don't know what Hagen Daaz puts in their regular vanilla, but it's the
one supermarket brand vanilla ice cream I can eat straight. Great flavor
and killer mouthfeel. I probably shouldn't look at the ingredients
list. ;)
nb
Wal-mart ads are now featuring Blue Bunny. Maybe they changed their formula
in order to be sold in the super Wal-Marts.
> I don't know what Hagen Daaz puts in their regular vanilla, but it's the
> one supermarket brand vanilla ice cream I can eat straight.
Ever make it at home?
Bob
>>> LOL nb! What did you expect from something with a name like "Blue
>>> Bunny"?
>>
>> They have a very good reputation. I don't know if they sell it
>> around here, I haven't looked, but I've certainly heard of them.
> Wal-mart ads are now featuring Blue Bunny. Maybe they changed their
> formula in order to be sold in the super Wal-Marts.
Ugh. That could be.
nancy
Simple list, as is what good ice cream makers do.
Vanilla: Ingredients: Cream, Skim Milk, Sugar, Egg Yolks, Natural Vanilla.
Vanilla Bean: Ingredients: CREAM, SKIM MILK, SUGAR, EGG YOLKS, NATURAL
FLAVOR, GROUND VANILLA BEANS.
Vanilla Honey Bee: Ingredients: CREAM, SKIM MILK, HONEY, EGG YOLKS, SUGAR,
NATURAL VANILLA.
Be sure to try the Honey Bee if you like honey. Gives it a nice touch.
> On 2010-07-11, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Well at least you found something to like about that brand. :)
>
> It's a new brand, too me. I don't recall ever seeing it in SFBA. It
> has a good rep and most of its premium ice creams are very good. It's
> my 2nd fave behind Hagen Daaz.
>
> The only reason I can see for the huge overrun in BB natural vanilla
> is to increase the profit margin after using high quality ingredients
> initially. Gotta pay for those real vanilla beans somehow. I recall
> Bryer's natural vanilla was very similar. All natural ingredients,
> but max overrun and very ice-milk like mouthfeel. I guess having real
> vanilla beans AND high milk-fat puts the product out of the price point
> they're targeting.
I guess that's why Breyer's didn't impress me. The first one I tried
was vanilla and I don't believe in throwing good money after bad.
>
> I don't know what Hagen Daaz puts in their regular vanilla, but it's the
> one supermarket brand vanilla ice cream I can eat straight. Great flavor
> and killer mouthfeel. I probably shouldn't look at the ingredients
> list. ;)
>
You're going to end up dead anyway, so you might as well die happy.
:)
> I thought Double Rainbow was the premium brand for the SFBA. When TJ
> carried their French Vanilla I liked it a lot. Then TJ substituted
> their own brand for it. Awful. Now I can't find it anywhere else, so
> I may have to try the Hagen Daaz. -aem
Yes. Double Rainbow is a high milkfat premium ice cream, to be sure.
Unfortunately, IMO, it's a bit TOO high in milkfat. After a few
spoonfuls, it's like I just applied a dble coat of ChapStick to my
lips ...and tongue and mouth and..... I call it the wax lips
phenomena. ;)
nb
On the bright side, it kept you from pigging out. ;)
> On the bright side, it kept you from pigging out. ;)
Plus, it's great for chapped lips.
nb
I'm assuming you didn't eat enough to grease your digestive track too.
:)
You found a crappy brand in a sea of crappy ice cream. It took me a
couple of seconds to realize it was pretty average. That's the breaks.
It's just supermarket ice cream. Artificial flavours and colours and a
few chemicals added that don't occur naturally in milk or cream :)
I've been making ice cream for years. My friends (and strangers) think mine is
as get as it gets: 2 cups cream, 1 cup whole milk, 6 egg yolks, 1 cup sugar, 2
Tbs Madagascar Bourbon Vanilla or good Mexican Vanilla or Madagascar Vanilla
Paste. Makes 1 quart. Use a White Mountain Electric Freezer (ice and salt).
For 44h of July, I made 1/2 gal of vanilla and 1/2 gal cinnamon.
Steve
> I've been making ice cream for years. My friends (and strangers) think mine is
> as get as it gets: 2 cups cream, 1 cup whole milk, 6 egg yolks, 1 cup sugar, 2
> Tbs Madagascar Bourbon Vanilla or good Mexican Vanilla or Madagascar Vanilla
> Paste. Makes 1 quart. Use a White Mountain Electric Freezer (ice and salt).
> For 44h of July, I made 1/2 gal of vanilla and 1/2 gal cinnamon.
Sounds killer!! Probably cost about $15 1/2 gal to do the same
commercially.
nb
It does, but it also reduces the volume of food you are purchasing. Why
pay for air? Ice cream is sold by volume, not by weight. The more air
added to it, the bigger rip off it is.
That is one reason that I purchase haagen dasz. It is more dense so I
get more for my money on the rare occasions I purchase ice cream.
I think Ice cream should be sold by weight not just volume.
--
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Isn't Blue Bell only available in a few states?
Jill
Yes. Check www.bluebell.com. Quoted from their web site.
"Our products are sold in Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Florida,
Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri,
New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee,
Texas and Virginia."
Not a chance - if they changed the formula, it would be called "Blue
Bunny." They have an outstanding reputation around here - I don't
like anyone's "natural vanilla bean" ice cream, not even Haagen-Daz -
not vanilla-y enough for me. I do like Blue Bunny's "Homemade
Vanilla," and "Homemade Chocolate."
And it isn't the same as Blue Bell, whatever that is.
N.
> And it isn't the same as Blue Bell, whatever that is.
Neither one is available here. I've heard of Blue Bell (at least
that's a flower) because it has been mentioned here. This thread is
the first Blue Bunny sighting though and it still sounds like a
child's toy.
> Neither one is available here. I've heard of Blue Bell (at least
> that's a flower) because it has been mentioned here. This thread is
> the first Blue Bunny sighting though and it still sounds like a
> child's toy.
Problem is, our store doesn't carry BB rocky road and I'm seriously
jonesing for some rr. I guess I'll have to break down and buy Hagen
Daaz rocky road, even though they rarely put HD on sale.
nb
I hear ya. Hubby used to be a RR addict too. I'm happy with Dryer's
vanilla. If I want something special, I go to the original Swensen's
storefront on Hyde St. Mitchell's and Polly Ann are good too, but I
don't think of them first.
You said it, Bob. Unfortunately ever since I got the new version
of Mozilla T-bird I have not been able to killfile anyone. I follow
directions exactly as they say and it just doesn't work. I never should
have got the new version. Anyway, if I ever get killfile to work that
where a certaim party whom I shall not name is going. Sigh.
Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
mailto:conn...@pitt.edu
I was supposed to stop in the town in Iowa where they are from when
I was on my trip to Montana last fall. Unfortunately I was able to
get there. I have seen it around here - Walmart carries it - but
I haven't tried it yet. Not sure if I'm ever going to. I doesn't
sound like the sort of ice cream I like - which is stuff like Haagen
Daz, and (once upon a time) Fruzen Gladje (sp?), Ben & Jerry's, etc.
Of course I don't eat those so much anymore because I can't afford
them these days. I have had to lower my standards and eat Breyers
when it's on sale. But maybe I should try BB - maybe it's better
than Breyers.
Many small towns all over the country have local ice cream makers that
beat the big guys all to bits because it is so much fresher and non-
commercial, if you know what I mean. We have two local makers -
Heynes and Dane's Dairy - super tasty. Just like grandma used to
make. ;-)
N.
We have a local ice cream shop here called Mallard Ice Cream. They
make probably the best ice cream I've ever had. It's fresh, local
ingredients and organic.
They make flavors like lavender and rose as well as the more common
popular flavors.
I love to go in and buy hand packed pints and quarts. Hand packing
takes all the 'air' out and gives you pounds of
real ice cream. If I'm going to eat ice cream I'm willing to pay a
bit more for the best.
In Scottsdale, AZ, we have Sweet Republic. Very excellent (Bon
Appetit agrees, FWIW)
http://www.sweetrepublic.com/home.html
-goro-
Same here, if you want quality ice cream in my area you skip big box and
go to one of the local ice cream makers.
Rose! Swoon.
--
Jean B.
Yes....it's awesome.
I have really gotten into rose-flavored things the last few years.
It started with rose-flavored tea. I am looking forward to cool
weather, so I can try some old recipes for cakes etc. that contain
rose flavoring. I finally found some extract.
--
Jean B.
Haagen-Dasz is the stuff. I wish they'd bring back their black
raspberry chip.
> --
> Peace! Om
--Bryan
> I have really gotten into rose-flavored things the last few years. It
> started with rose-flavored tea. I am looking forward to cool weather, so
> I can try some old recipes for cakes etc. that contain rose flavoring. I
> finally found some extract.
For a couple years I had two rose geranium plants which worked well at
imparting that flavor. One of the best hot-weather recipes using rose
geraniums was a summer pudding. Bread slices are buttered and sugared, then
layered with strawberries and rose geranium leaves in a dessert mold. The
mold is weighted down and left to sit for hours and hours. After time has
passed, the bread soaks up the berry juices and becomes a bit like cake.
It's very refreshing, and the rose flavor goes well with strawberries.
Bob
Have you ever tried rose pedal jam? It's to die for!
--
Jean B.
--
Jean B.
> I will add that lychee and rose is an interesting combination, although I
> can't envision a lychee summer pudding.
Hmmmm.... I know that it's possible to infuse white chocolate with lavender;
I wonder if you can infuse it with rose. I'm conceiving the idea of a lychee
kulfi frozen hard, then put on a stick and dipped into rose-scented white
chocolate.
It would also be possible to get that combination in a cockail. I know that
a rose-flavored liquor (either a rose vodka or a rose liqueur) exists, and I
have a lychee liqueur in my liquor cabinet; a palatable drink might be made
by simply combining the two.
Bob
I was actually inspired enough to make it at one point in my life....
then I figured out what a large rose garden I'd need to get the
correct amount of jam and that idea flew out the door. Maybe I should
have planted some rose geraniums and used that, but I was focused on
roses.
"Jean B." wrote:
>
> ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Jul 12, 5:55 pm, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
> >> ImStillMags wrote:
> >>> On Jul 12, 2:16 pm, Nancy2 <nancy-doo...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
<snip>
> >>> They make flavors like lavender and rose as well as the more common
> >>> popular flavors.
> >>> I love to go in and buy hand packed pints and quarts. Hand packing
> >>> takes all the 'air' out and gives you pounds of
> >>> real ice cream. If I'm going to eat ice cream I'm willing to pay a
> >>> bit more for the best.
> >>> http://www.mallardicecream.com/
> >> Rose! Swoon.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean B.
> >
> > Yes....it's awesome.
>
> I have really gotten into rose-flavored things the last few years.
> It started with rose-flavored tea. I am looking forward to cool
> weather, so I can try some old recipes for cakes etc. that contain
> rose flavoring. I finally found some extract.
>
> --
> Jean B.
Mmmm rose pouchong tea. Not had that in years.
Rose extract as opposed to rose water? Brand please?
Yes! I found it at Sur La Table (Chestnut Hill, Mass.) last year.
It is Star Kay White Brand. See:
Looking at the site, the rose and lavender extracts are the only
exciting ones.
--
Jean B.
TY! Must look into that. Perhaps one of the Asian grocers around here
sells it. None of our roses are sufficiently scented to make into jams
etc :(
None here. I always look at such sections trying to find jasmine
and lychee extracts. In fact, I was hoping this line would
include jasmine....
--
Jean B.
"Jean B." wrote:
>
> Arri London wrote:
> >
<snip>
> >> Looking at the site, the rose and lavender extracts are the only
> >> exciting ones.
> >
> >
> > TY! Must look into that. Perhaps one of the Asian grocers around here
> > sells it. None of our roses are sufficiently scented to make into jams
> > etc :(
>
> None here. I always look at such sections trying to find jasmine
> and lychee extracts. In fact, I was hoping this line would
> include jasmine....
>
>
No shops selling Indian goods either? They usually have jasmine and
osmanthus extracts. Will try to remember to look for those when we next
go to the Asian shops.
I see durian, pandan... Have even seen that Asian water bug. But
no jasmine.
--
Jean B.
There's a large Indian grocery store on Moody Street in Waltham. They
might sell jasmine extract. Haven't been there in a long time. I should
revisit it soon. I need fenugreek.
Tracy
Ah! Thanks for the suggestion. Believe it or not, I have not
explored the ethnic stores there mostly because of the parking
situation. I would also like to look for Mexican chorizo!
--
Jean B.
Boy! I got the smallest box of dried fenugreek (methi) I could find a
few years ago. I've used it a number of times since and I still have
more than half left! I like it but I need to find more recipes to use
it in. All I do now is "Malai Methi Murgh" - Creamy chicken curry
with Fenugreek.
I need to go to our single (but very good) Indian Restaurant They have
a daily noon and weekend brunch buffet. I can talk to the owner and
she'll help me find some other ways to use the fenugreek. We also
have several ethnic markets that carry Indian/Asian markets, and I
can buy rose water, orange blossom and jasmine and more.
Lynn in Fargo
Hmmm. This is where I wish I were home. Many more Asian shops with a
wider variety of goods than I can find locally.
Will still have a look this week if time permits.
Apparently some people think it tastes like *maple*. Perhaps you can
fake maple flavours in something :)
There are a couple of public lots behind where Jordan's furniture
used to be.
There is also a Mexican grocery store. I have never been in so I
don't know if they have Mexican chorizo. My husband just brought
some home not too long ago. I can't remember where he got it -
probably Market Basket in Chelsea.
Tracy