Bobby Flay - was gay, now straight?
kalanamak
> Sounds fair to me. The motto of the species: Either eat it, mate with
> it, or run away.
>
Substitute "and" for "or" and you get much of 70's.
blacksalt
modom
<swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov> wrote:
>>Maybe somebody's looking for a date?
>
>So what if I am. What does it matter?
>
Interesting rhetorical move! Let's run with it.
Sexual preference matters when one is looking for a date. But does it
matter that one is looking for a date in the first place? I'd guess
that would depend on certain circumstances like marital status, degree
of fame (or notoriety), and whether or not one of the potential dates
has taken a vow of chastity. I'm setting aside the off chance that
one is looking for a date outside one's species, of course, but no
matter.
Hearing that Susan Sarandon was looking for a date with a Carmelite
nun would call up questions in my mind. Such as: Will she wear that
dress she wore to the Academy Awards? Will there be a Web site? Do
Carmelite nuns own digital cameras? Not to mention a host of issues
for Tim Robbins.
I know nothing about the marital status, notoriety or clerical
standing of anybody who may be looking for a date with Bobby Flay. So
if your question is what does it matter that somebody may be looking
for a date, I can't say that there is an answer beyond Flay's fame and
a mild curiosity on the species issue. More data is needed.
However, it occurs to me that the answer to the question so many have
put forward on this burning topic --namely: What does it matter if
Bobby Flay is homosexual? -- is that somebody may be looking for a
date. After all, that's one instance in which sexual preference
matters.
OBFood: I haven't eaten any dates in a long while.
modom
MareCat
wrote:
>Nancy Young <qwe...@mail.monmouth.com> deliciously posted in
>news:404382A6...@mail.monmouth.com:
>
>> Jarkat2002 wrote:
>>
>>> >My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
>>> >or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>>
>>> Why does it even matter?
>>
>> True, it goes without saying, who cares one way or another.
>>
>> nancy
>
>It matters not a bit. Now, if I could find out about Tyler Florence I
>might be able to create a food crisis he could come and fix ;)
>
>Michael
With all the flirting he does with his female guests, I'd say you're
outta luck, Michael.
Then again, it could all just be an act...
jmcquown
> "Steve Wertz" <swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov> wrote in message
> news:yfWdnVDUYcg...@io.com...
>> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
>> appeared to be gay.
> I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
Actor Leslie Howard is a case in point. If I'd assumed anyone was gay it
was this gorgeous 'pretty' man actor from old filmdom. But au contraire...
he was married and fathered two children, one would have to assume with a
woman ;-)
http://www.lynnpdesign.com/classicmovies/howard/bio.html
He was shot down in a plane by the Luftwaffe over the Bay of Biscayne in
1943.
Jill
sf
<swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov> wrote:
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
I have never considered how "male" Bobby Flay is (maybe
you're the only one who cares) or if the lack of it could
affect his cooking ability.
Practice safe eating - always use condiments
Jarkat2002
>
>~john
no, I 'got' it ... it just wasn't funny.
~Kat
What did my hands do before they held you?
Sylvia Plath (1932 - 1963)
Nancy Young
>
> Nancy Young <qwe...@mail.monmouth.com> wrote in message news:<40437D50...@mail.monmouth.com>...
> > Vox Humana wrote:
> >
> > > I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> > > carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
> >
> >
> > nancy
>
> So what the point of your first post...you said he has a fiance so
> "nuff said." Ever hear of a "beard"?
You misspelled Liza Minelli.
> Ever hear of homosexuals
> forcing themselves into marriage to appear to be straight to others?
I can't imagine what his motivation would be, but he seems straight
to me, as a matter of fact, he has a reputation as a skirtchaser.
Whether he is or he isn't, I don't think Stephanie is a beard. They
look very happy together, too.
nancy
SportKite1
>I can't think of any men on the Food TV network who are
>appealing.
Michael Chiarello is pretty hot.
Vox Humana
"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Who really cares?
> > Gay or straight, ain't none of my business.
>
> Gay or straight, Hot Off the Grill with Bobby Flay sucked.
Yes, big time!
Vox Humana
"Carmen Dioxide" <carmendi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Nancy Young <qwe...@mail.monmouth.com> wrote in message
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> > Vox Humana wrote:
> >
> > > I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> > > carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
> >
> > Definitely, or that masculine = straight.
> >
> > nancy
>
> So what the point of your first post...you said he has a fiance so
> forcing themselves into marriage to appear to be straight to others?
> Sorry!
Yes, I think we are in agreement. You can't look at a person or their
situation and really know their sexual orientation. If you were talking to
me, then I would say was the message being sent to the OP.
Vox Humana
"SportKite1" <sport...@aol.com> wrote in message
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OK, you got me there. Funny though, he set off my gayday. I don't know
why. I think this metrosexual thing is responsible.
kilikini
> Dog3 wrote:
>
> >
> > > My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> > > or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
> > >
> >
> > I've always had the impression he is a neanderthal. Not a gay thing
about
> > him that I can see.
>
> He gave me the impression that he was an arrogant, obnoxious jerk. I
couldn't
> handle watching his show.
>
>
He *does* seem arrogant, doesn't he? But then, (let's change the topic of
the thread and *really* piss people off) most chefs are arrogant! <veg> =
very evil grin.
kilikini
Hairy
> Sheryl Rosen wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Who really cares?
> > Gay or straight, ain't none of my business.
>
> Gay or straight, Hot Off the Grill with Bobby Flay sucked.
>
Well, I'd say that settles the question, then.:)
H
Bob Myers
> 95% of the men who act as I describe are indeed gay. If you want
> to call the effeminate, then fine. 95% of the effeminate men are
> gay.
And 96.7234% of all quoted statistics are simply made up on
the spot....:-)
You know the above HOW, exactly?
Bob M.
>
> Pushing a baby carriage does not make one effeminate. Are you
> implying that most men who don't hug and kiss their female friends
> are not gay?
>
> -sw
Elaine Goldberg
Never Anonymous Bud wrote:
>WHAT the hell does this have to do with
> cooking??
That's a good question, but here's a better one. Are you making any
birthday plans?? Josiah's experiment bombed, even though you proclaimed
yourself the winner! :)
Elaine
Nancy Young
> Wasn't he on 'Grillin' and Chillin' also? I rarely watch any show he is
> on. something about him rubs me the wrong way. No pun intended.
He was downright rude to the chillin guy.
nancy
Maverick
"Default User" <first...@boeing.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:4043BC24...@boeing.com.invalid...
> Nancy Young wrote:
>
> > He always seemed straight to me. I *think* he was married before,
> > but I could be wrong about that. He's got a fiancee, Stephanie March.
>
>
> She was on his latest show one time, and I sat thinking she really
> looked familiar but couldn't place her. Then I found out she played the
> DA on Law and Order (not anymore though).
>
> For what it's worth, I've never really found Flay to be all that
> arrogant or unpleasant. The show he did with Jackie Maloof was just
> annoying in general, but FoodNation and Hot Off the Grill have been very
> good.
Wait. Wasn't Jackie Maloof on the show Hot Off the Grill? If so, then I
think you are talking about his Boy Meets Grill show as one that he's not
arrogant or unpleasant. At least it seems that way to me.
Bret
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Maverick
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:09:05 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
> <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote:
>
<<*snip*>>
> I still don't think people recall the earliest of his shows. He
> would wave around his limp-wrists constantly and had that gay
> lip-smaking accent.
>
> I guess I was "fortunate" enough to be one of the first areas that
> was able to receive FoodTV and the earliest of his shows.
Having only had access to the FoodTV network for the past year and a half,
what show are you talking about?
I get his "Boy meets Grill" and Food Nation (or whatever its called) shows
now. No more Hot off the grill piece of shit show of his anymore.
Also, to really change the topic. I'm getting tired of watching a FoodTV
show thats been copyrighted in 2000. Are (and what) shows are actually new
on there? I'm talking actual cooking shows, not the "And the hotdogs at
this place in this city" type of shows. Sorry. Kinda got on a rant there.
Thanks,
Vox Humana
"Dog3" <dognospam@adjfkdla;not> wrote in message
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> "Vox Humana" <vhu...@hotmail.com> deliciously posted in
> news:Yc21c.4129$G63....@fe3.columbus.rr.com:
> on. something about him rubs me the wrong way. No pun intended.
>
I'm not familiar with that show. I just don't like him. I don't "get"
Jacky, either. I don't "get" the goons in bowling shirts and gold chains
that he has talk about meat and wine. I don't understand why he had people
who couldn't cook prepare food. I guess that since I don't subscribe to the
school of cooking that says everything benefits from the addition of
peppers, I couldn't find anything redeeming about his shows.
Vox Humana
"Maverick" <bmcg...@hotmail.NOSPAM.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Wertz" <swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov> wrote in message
> news:vqmdnfTubPn...@io.com...
> > On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 23:09:05 GMT, Never anonymous Bud
> > <new...@katxyzkave.net> wrote:
> >
> <<*snip*>>
>
> > I still don't think people recall the earliest of his shows. He
> > would wave around his limp-wrists constantly and had that gay
> > lip-smaking accent.
> >
> > I guess I was "fortunate" enough to be one of the first areas that
> > was able to receive FoodTV and the earliest of his shows.
>
> Having only had access to the FoodTV network for the past year and a half,
> what show are you talking about?
>
> I get his "Boy meets Grill" and Food Nation (or whatever its called) shows
> now. No more Hot off the grill piece of shit show of his anymore.
>
> Also, to really change the topic. I'm getting tired of watching a FoodTV
> show thats been copyrighted in 2000. Are (and what) shows are actually
new
> on there? I'm talking actual cooking shows, not the "And the hotdogs at
> this place in this city" type of shows. Sorry. Kinda got on a rant
there.
I agree with your observations. There is very little worthwhile cooking
information on Food TV. Most of it is either "best of" or "top 10" sort of
shows interspersed with "personality" cooking. As much as I like to cook, I
seldom watch Food TV. The PBS cooking shows are much better. Too bad they
are only shown on Saturday mornings.
Maverick
news:jEb1c.1766$rR5...@fe3.columbus.rr.com...
PBS has better shows and only on Saturday mornings? *sigh* Now I'll have
to get up early then and watch them. The show I like best on FoodTV is Good
Eats. He *explains* things not just "this is how its done". But then, I'm
just a novice cook (except for grilling *eg*) so I want more than "you
always do it this way" kind of thing.
Your mileage may vary.
Default User
> Wait. Wasn't Jackie Maloof on the show Hot Off the Grill? If so, then I
> think you are talking about his Boy Meets Grill show as one that he's not
> arrogant or unpleasant. At least it seems that way to me.
You are correct, I always mix those shows up. I had it correct in
another post because I looked it up.
Brian Rodenborn
Donna Rose
first...@boeing.com.invalid says...
Chef. At the end of the competition (but before the judging) he stood up
on his cutting board and hoisted both fists up in the air - the Japanese
hosts were extremely offended as they consider the cutting board as
'sacred' and not something to be stood on.
He lost that competition, as I recall. However a year later, they
actually had him back again. Knowing that he offended his guests by
standing on the cutting board the previous year, he repeated the same
gesture the second time. That time, I believe he actually won the
competition. That sort of arrogance and lack of manners are exactly the
sort of behavior that the term "ugly American" denotes, IMO.
--
Donna
A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist hopes they are.
Vox Humana
"Donna Rose" <dS...@BLOCKix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Money talks.
Default User
> I think the height of Bobby Flay's arrogance was when he was on the Iron
> Chef. At the end of the competition (but before the judging) he stood up
> on his cutting board and hoisted both fists up in the air - the Japanese
> hosts were extremely offended as they consider the cutting board as
> 'sacred' and not something to be stood on.
You don't think they told him to ham it up? And so what if the Japanese
chefs have some sort of weird reverence for cutting boards? Do you?
Brian Rodenborn
JimLane
When in Rome, in case you have forgotten good manners, and Flay
displayed the poorest possible..
jim
Default User
> When in Rome, in case you have forgotten good manners, and Flay
> displayed the poorest possible..
But how would he even know? Remember, Morimoto pulled his big pout AFTER
the fact. And don't you think Morimoto was hamming it up too?
Brian Rodenborn
JimLane
When deciphering what someone from a different culture is expressing, I
rarely ever assume. Are you not assuming about Morimoto? BTW, I think
you are right, Flay wouldn't know. Rarely does a week go by without his
making a half-witted comment. He should stay in the kitchen and hire a
PR firm to talk for him.
jim
Default User
> When deciphering what someone from a different culture is expressing, I
> rarely ever assume. Are you not assuming about Morimoto? BTW, I think
> you are right, Flay wouldn't know. Rarely does a week go by without his
> making a half-witted comment. He should stay in the kitchen and hire a
> PR firm to talk for him.
Actually, I assume that Morimoto was hamming it up too. I've seen him on
several non-IC things, and he's not a brooding hyper-focused critical
glowering chef at all.
It was all game.
Brian Rodenborn
JimLane
You're assuming one is the reality and not the other. Unless you know
him personally, you may "suspect" that your view is correct, but proving
it is a long way off. Perhaps the IC is reality and the other "hamming"
it up.
jim
Donna Rose
first...@boeing.com.invalid says...
I don't think anyone needs to tell Bobby Flay to ham it up - he does
quite nicely on his own.
I don't have any 'weird reverence' for cutting boards, but I certainly
don't want anybody standing on mine.
And I certainly wouldn't do something I *knew* would be offensive to my
hosts in a foreign country (or anywhere else, for that matter). It's
rude and very poor manners IMO.
Gerry
any/every one thought about Bobby Flay and the women/lack of on his
show.
First, the lady, Jackie Malouf, on his show, "hot off the grill" to me
is "hot",
Next, not that anyone really gives a "rats ash", but when ol' Bobby
critisized his loosing on the "Iron Chef" show the first time, that
fricking sucked. You do NO climb on the counter. Unless you built the
damn things, NO! It is NOT a jungle gym. Point Blank!. He does know
what he i talking about o his show, but.....
Sandy n ne
Sandra
blake murphy
Dioxide) wrote:
>Nancy Young <qwe...@mail.monmouth.com> wrote in message news:<40437D50...@mail.monmouth.com>...
>> Vox Humana wrote:
>>
>> > I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
>> > carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
>>
>> Definitely, or that masculine = straight.
>>
>> nancy
>
>So what the point of your first post...you said he has a fiance so
>"nuff said." Ever hear of a "beard"? Ever hear of homosexuals
>forcing themselves into marriage to appear to be straight to others?
>Marriage and engagement isn't a "nuff said" to prove a person hetero.
>Sorry!
if stephanie can't give him a stiffinee, he's definitely gay.
your pal,
blake
Default User
> So what the point of your first post...you said he has a fiance so
> "nuff said." Ever hear of a "beard"? Ever hear of homosexuals
> forcing themselves into marriage to appear to be straight to others?
> Marriage and engagement isn't a "nuff said" to prove a person hetero.
> Sorry!
1. That's more from a bygone era.
2. What would be Stephanie March's reason for doing so?
Brian Rodenborn
Nancy Young
>
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
Don't you mean New Yawk accent?
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
He always seemed straight to me. I *think* he was married before,
but I could be wrong about that. He's got a fiancee, Stephanie March.
nuff said.
nancy
Levelwave©
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
I don't think he's technically a homosexual but he is *definitely* a
fagot...
~john
--
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nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police
more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1935
"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The
prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
-- Janet Reno US Attorney General
Vox Humana
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
Nancy Young
> I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
Definitely, or that masculine = straight.
nancy
Jarkat2002
>appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
>other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
>Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
>anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
>as well.
>
>My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
>or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
>-sw
>
>
Why does it even matter?
~Kat
What did my hands do before they held you?
Sylvia Plath (1932 - 1963)
Felice Friese
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
And if he was ... ?
Felice
StocksRus®
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
Maybe he just gave you a woody.
--
StocksRus®
Nancy Young
> >My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> >or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
> Why does it even matter?
True, it goes without saying, who cares one way or another.
nancy
Levelwave©
> And if he was ... ?
This politically correct BS has got to stop. Maybe he's just curious for
his own personal reasons. Why does it matter why it matters?
Vox Humana
or that masculine is superior to feminine.
Vox Humana
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:03:22 GMT, "Vox Humana"
> <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> >carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
>
> on his show, nor babies in carriages.
That makes no difference. Effeminate behavior was given as a reason to
think he was gay. I merely point out that there are effeminate straight
people. Get it? Your logic is faulty.
Jarkat2002
>
>But since you mention it, I think that all faggots should be lined
>up and shot and shoveled into a hole in the ground just like the
>Jews.
>
>Is that what you wanted to hear? I thought so.
>
>-sw
>
No .. It's a far cry from anything I would ever want to hear ... I'm not
surprised you believe it though.
I just wanted to know why it matters to you ... now I do.
Sad.
nathan
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
Who cares? Did you use your GAYdar to detect this?
nathan
JimLane
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
The real question is why is this of any importance to you? Are you
wanting to date him?
jim
Dave Smith
>
> > My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> > or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
> >
> > -sw
>
> I've always had the impression he is a neanderthal. Not a gay thing about
> him that I can see.
He gave me the impression that he was an arrogant, obnoxious jerk. I couldn't
handle watching his show.
jmcquown
> "Vox Humana" <vhu...@hotmail.com> deliciously posted in
> news:KVK0c.2970$G63....@fe3.columbus.rr.com:
> genteel than I'm used to and it really screws up the stereotypes.
>
> Michael
(laughing!) I have the same problem with Southern women... I think they are
straight and then they turn around and introduce their "girlfriend" ;-) I
can't tell if I'm more confused by living in the South or being around
Southern people.
Jill
Vox Humana
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:30:34 GMT, "Vox Humana"
> <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >That makes no difference. Effeminate behavior was given as a reason to
> >think he was gay. I merely point out that there are effeminate straight
> >people. Get it?
>
> to call the effeminate, then fine. 95% of the effeminate men are
> gay.
>
> Pushing a baby carriage does not make one effeminate. Are you
> implying that most men who don't hug and kiss their female friends
> are not gay?
>
Go back and actually read what I wrote. Also, please tell me where you get
your statistics. Do you see men who are effeminate and then ask them if
they are gay? As I point out, I see effeminate men with women and I have no
idea if they are gay or straight. How can you tell?
Dave Smith
>
> > Pushing a baby carriage does not make one effeminate. Are you
> > implying that most men who don't hug and kiss their female friends
> > are not gay?
> >
>
> Go back and actually read what I wrote. Also, please tell me where you get
> your statistics. Do you see men who are effeminate and then ask them if
> they are gay? As I point out, I see effeminate men with women and I have no
> idea if they are gay or straight. How can you tell?
I have a good friend who used to teach junior grades. He quit to become an
artist. He hangs around with women. He loves to cook, dresses in a quirky manner
and does sometimes exhibit a bit of a limp wrist. I don't think he is gay. I
had another friend who did all the manly things, hunted, fished, played poker
with the boys. He went to a priest for marriage counseling and ended up having
an affair with the priest. Go figger. The priest being gay was no surprise,
but my friend turning out to be gay was.
Goomba38
> It matters not a bit. Now, if I could find out about Tyler Florence I
> might be able to create a food crisis he could come and fix ;)
>
> Michael
Damn.. I'd fight ya for him! Actually I like Bobby Flay too.. I think
they're both kinda hot in their own way. Emeril.. he's NOT hot. UGH. The
man slobbers and is very unattractive on oh-so-many levels.
Goomba
Vox Humana
"Dave Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4043ABB9...@sympatico.ca...
Until recently all most people knew about gays came from anti-gay forces.
It is no wonder that people think all gays fit some effeminate stereotype.
I read somewhere that 30% of all anti-gay hate crimes are targeted towards
straights who are misidentified as being gay. That is why I doubt the claim
made earlier in this thread that 95% of effeminate men are gay. I worked at
a social service agency and for several months after I got there I assumed
that the director was gay. He turned out to be a womanizer.
Vox Humana
"Goomba38" <Goom...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:4043B159...@comcast.net...
You cab have both of them. Flay is too arrogant and Tyler Florence's hair
is too greasy. I can't think of any men on the Food TV network who are
appealing.
nathan
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:54:20 -0000, Dog3 <dognospam@adjfkdla;not>
> wrote:
>
>>No ya' didn't and I didn't take it as wrong. You just wanted other
>>people's impressions of his TV persona.
>
> Thank you.
>
>>Well I'm gay and my cyberdar flunks you as gay ;)
>
> Well - Hrmpff <wrists on hips, head cocked up the air to one side>
>
> Is that better? :-)
>
> -sw
You must be one bored dude. You should clock you hours on usenet.. or
maybe you do.
nathan
Felice Friese
"Levelwave©" <~last...@utc.edu> wrote in message
news:c200pq$1nk8ep$1...@ID-199095.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Felice Friese wrote:
>
> > And if he was ... ?
>
> This politically correct BS has got to stop. Maybe he's just curious for
> his own personal reasons. Why does it matter why it matters?
>
> ~john
It probably doesn't, John. I guess I just don't understand why some people
are "curious" about other people's sexual preferences.
Felice
Default User
> He always seemed straight to me. I *think* he was married before,
> but I could be wrong about that. He's got a fiancee, Stephanie March.
She was on his latest show one time, and I sat thinking she really
looked familiar but couldn't place her. Then I found out she played the
DA on Law and Order (not anymore though).
For what it's worth, I've never really found Flay to be all that
arrogant or unpleasant. The show he did with Jackie Maloof was just
annoying in general, but FoodNation and Hot Off the Grill have been very
good.
Brian Rodenborn
CoastWatcher
WHOA! Let's not even start that one!
Donna Rose
swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov says...
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
>
--
Donna
A pessimist believes all women are bad. An optimist hopes they are.
Donna Rose
dognospam@adjfkdla says...
> Didn't he have a show a long time ago that babes hung out at the kitchen
> bar and *helped* with the menu? I can't remember the name of the show.
> Don't care enough to look it up either.
>
> Michael
I think you mean "Hot off the grill with Bobby Flay". It still shows in
reruns.
Sheryl Rosen
swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov wrote on 3/1/04 12:40 PM:
> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
> Now he seems almost normal. I hardly ever see the limp wrist
> anymore and he's almost rid himself of the rest of the character
> as well.
>
> My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
> or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
> -sw
Who really cares?
Gay or straight, ain't none of my business.
Sheryl Rosen
swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov wrote on 3/1/04 2:14 PM:
> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:23:12 GMT, "Felice Friese"
> <fri...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> And if he was ... ?
>
> Gotta love the misplaced mentality of the people of rfc.
>
> Did I say there was anything wrong with being gay? Did you ever
> stop to consider that maybe I'm gay?
>
> Didn't think so.
>
> -sw
And again....who really cares?
Ain't none of my business either way.
Of course, that would explain a lot....
Sheryl Rosen
dognospam@adjfkdla;not wrote on 3/1/04 2:57 PM:
> Steve Wertz <swe...@cluemail.com.invalid.gov> deliciously posted in
> news:MpCdnb7h54w...@io.com:
>
>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:03:22 GMT, "Vox Humana"
>> <vhu...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
>>> carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
>>
>> Ahem. I never mentioned any of that. He never used to have women
>> on his show, nor babies in carriages.
>>
>> -sw
>>
>
> Didn't he have a show a long time ago that babes hung out at the kitchen
> bar and *helped* with the menu? I can't remember the name of the show.
> Don't care enough to look it up either.
>
> Michael
There was Jacqui Malouf, who was his sidekick.
She was, IMO ditzy, but I could see how people would find her beautiful.
He had that show, i think it was called "Boy Meets Grill". I think that's
the one Jacqui Malouf co-hosted with him.
Dave Smith
>
>
>
> Who really cares?
> Gay or straight, ain't none of my business.
Gay or straight, Hot Off the Grill with Bobby Flay sucked.
PENMART01
sqwertz spurts:
>
>> When the Bobby Flay first appeared on TV, he , to me at least,
>> appeared to be gay. Limp-wristed mannerisms, that gay accent, and
>> other things that just made me go "uh-huh".
>
>Who really cares?
>Gay or straight, ain't none of my business.
Um, well, sqwertz worries about gays, he's an asshole! <G>
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =---
---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =---
Sheldon
````````````
"Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."
Nancree
>
He did the best presentation of a perfectly cooked Filet Mignon that I've ever
seen. Sauteed in a pan on One Side Only until a crust formed. Then quickly
put in a 425 degree oven for a few minutes (I think about 8 min.) It was never
turned over until it was put on a plate. Tasty crusty top, medium rare inside.
Nancree
The Wolf
Smith" <adavid...@sympatico.ca> opined:
Hey for once I agree with you.
Although, on Eat America or whatever the fuck he calls it he featured the
region where I grew up. There's at least one place I have to check out the
next time I visit.
--
========================================================
I'd rather have a German division ahead of me then a
French division behind me," Gen. George S. Patton
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modom
<qwe...@mail.monmouth.com> wrote:
>Jarkat2002 wrote:
>
>> >My brother insists that he never acted gay at all. Is it just me,
>> >or was he indeed a flamer when he first started appearing on TV?
>
>> Why does it even matter?
>
>True, it goes without saying, who cares one way or another.
>
>nancy
Maybe somebody's looking for a date?
modom
Carmen Dioxide
>
> > I see lots of effeminate men arm-in-arm with women, many pushing baby
> > carriages. Your mistake is to assume that effeminate = gay.
>
>
> nancy
So what the point of your first post...you said he has a fiance so
"nuff said." Ever hear of a "beard"? Ever hear of homosexuals
forcing themselves into marriage to appear to be straight to others?
Marriage and engagement isn't a "nuff said" to prove a person hetero.
Sorry!
Levelwave©
> It probably doesn't, John. I guess I just don't understand why some people
> are "curious" about other people's sexual preferences.
So they know if the "other people" are fair game or not :)
~john
--
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized
nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police
more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!"
-- Adolph Hitler, 1935
"Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The
prohibition of private firearms is the goal."
-- Janet Reno US Attorney General
Levelwave©
> What I can't understand is Ron Jeremy.
It needs no understanding. It is as it is...
Levelwave©
> No .. It's a far cry from anything I would ever want to hear ... I'm not
> surprised you believe it though.
> I just wanted to know why it matters to you ... now I do.
> Sad.
heheh... That'n went right over your head...
Levelwave©
> Um, well, sqwertz worries about gays, he's an asshole! <G>
>
> Ahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . .
(laughing)... Sorry. I couldn't help myself...
modom
wrote:
>Felice Friese wrote:
>
>> It probably doesn't, John. I guess I just don't understand why some people
>> are "curious" about other people's sexual preferences.
>
>
>So they know if the "other people" are fair game or not :)
>
>~john
Sounds fair to me. The motto of the species: Either eat it, mate with
it, or run away.
modom
