Scoan v. sconne

[graham]

Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/

I grew up with "sconne", but if I used that pronunciation at
my local Starbucks they'd look at me like I'd grown a second
head. Now I say "scoane" without thinking much about it.

It was interesting to learn that the UK numbers their
social classes. I googled for "C2DE social grade",
since the Telegraph assumes one knows what that means.
I can't decide if I'd be an A or a B. "Professional" is
so vague. Probably a B. A's would be doctors and lawyers
and such, I imagine.

Cindy Hamilton

[Janet]

In article <f21f12e2-0333-481e...@googlegroups.com>,
angelica...@yahoo.com says...

It's a demographic classification based on occupation, used in market
research etc.

details

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NRS_social_grade

Janet UK

[notbob]

On 2016-11-02, graham <gst...@shaw.ca> wrote:

> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".

No. Here YOU go again!

The "o" is pronounced like "dolt", a word I'm sure you are much more familiar
with. ;)

nb

[Nancy Young]

On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/

If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
left off the e.

nancy

[Ophelia]

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news:gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7...

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I can't argue with that ... although my bit of England says scon <g>

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[Jeßus]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>
>I grew up with "sconne",

Same in Aus.

OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Really? Really? Consistency in the spelling of English words?
ROTFL.

Cindy Hamilton

[Jeßus]

Yes, it should be gon from common usage ASAP.

[S Viemeister]

And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...

[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:e7v0rd...@mid.individual.net...

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Yep:))

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[Nancy Young]

Exception to prove the rule. The fact is, people say scone because
that's how it's how it's spelled. Unfortunately that doesn't stop
people from saying datta.

I never say scone or scon, so I don't actually care.

nancy

[notbob]

On 2016-11-02, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...

What isn't!? ;)

nb

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 20:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister
<firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

That would be right :)

We also have a Fingal here in Tasmania, the locals pronounce it in an
odd way: Fin-gall.

[Nancy Young]

On 11/2/2016 4:12 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message news:gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7...
>
> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>
>
> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> left off the e.

> I can't argue with that ... although my bit of England says scon <g>

If it was spelled scon or sconn, we wouldn't be seeing surveys on
how it's pronounced.

So you say scon, here some people pronounce washing machine 'worshing'
Regional differences. (shrug)

nancy

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 16:35:02 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

No worries... it's cool.

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 20:32:58 +0000, S Viemeister
<firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:

So was the stone wasn't it?

[graham]

Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)
Graham

[graham]

We said scon in Suffolk, which is in the S.E.
Graham

[Ophelia]

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news:bdsSz.588622$BF.2...@fx42.am4...

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Exactly! All regional:))) Best not worry about surveys. Just accept the
different pronunciations:))

Vive la différence :))

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[Ophelia]

"graham" wrote in message news:nvdjsf$7jc$2...@dont-email.me...

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Jolly good:))


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[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 14:54:22 -0600, graham <gst...@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>>
>>> Same in Aus.
>>>
>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>>
>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>
>Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)
>Graham

Be quiet Sassenach !

[jmcquown]

On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:

> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>
>

What does it matter as long as they taste good?

Jill

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:nvdljb$egc$1...@dont-email.me...

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Ahaaaaaaaaaa you hit on the truth!!!

:)

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[jmcquown]

It seems a simple truth. :)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

Like "gone"... note the "e".

[Dave Smith]

On 2016-11-02 4:35 PM, Nancy Young wrote:

>>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>>> left off the e.
>>
>> Yes, it should be gon from common usage ASAP.
>
> Exception to prove the rule. The fact is, people say scone because
> that's how it's how it's spelled. Unfortunately that doesn't stop
> people from saying datta.
>

People say what? scone (like gone) or scone (like stone)? I can tell
you that we had the fairly often when I was a kid. My mother baked them
and both my grandmothers made them. My maternal grandmother was of
mostly Irish and Scottish blood and my paternal grandmother was from the
Nottinghamshire/Sheffield area of England. They all pronounced it
rhyming with gone. Here we are years later and people who never grew
up with nice freshly made scones(gone) are buying those super sweetened
things in Starbucks and calling them scones (stones) because they don't
know any better.

[jmcquown]

I rarely have reason to bring up scones in verbal conversation.

I do have to say, the scones in that link look like US biscuits. The
scones I remember were patted out into triangular shape and griddled. I
don't think that article is talking about what I know as "scones" (no
matter how anyone pronounces it).

Jill

[Dave Smith]

The scones I grew up with were always triangular or diamond shaped.
Those cloying sweet scones they sell in Starbucks are triangular. I was
surprised to see the things in that video being cut in circles. That is
a biscuit. Biscuit and scone recipes vary a lot, with scones tending to
be richer, but biscuits are round.

[Ophelia]

"jmcquown" wrote in message news:nvdlu8$fjs$1...@dont-email.me...

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:)

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[Nancy Young]

Two wrongs don't make a right.

nancy

[Dave Smith]

It is the English language. It is a patchwork of the languages of the
various factions who ruled it over the years.... Celts, Romans, Norse,
French, Germans....
You ought to work through it though it can be rough.

[tert in seattle]

here you go - you blind men take a look at this elephant

http://www.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.cam.ac.uk/files/scone_rhyme_with_gone.jpg

[Dave Smith]

My English born grandmother was from the Nottingham/Sheffield area
which, according to that map, is where very few people same scone
rhyming with gone, but that is not how she said it.

[Nancy Young]

I absolutely get how English came to be so tricky, I was merely
pointing out that it's hard to fault people for pronouncing a
word the way it's spelled. I certainly wasn't arguing that
gone shouldn't rhyme with phone. It breaks the rule, too. But
that's how it is, and I don't see any surveys How do you
pronounce gone?

nancy

[dsi1]

On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 8:45:00 AM UTC-10, graham wrote:
> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/

You could pronounce it either way in front of my face and get no reaction from me - not a single indication about how I feel about it. My guess is that yoose guys would be squirming like a toad. Yes sir, I'm a pretty special kind of guy. My policy is to never use that word at any time.

[tert in seattle]

so what?

[Dave Smith]

Gawn<?>

[Bruce]

In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...

>
> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> > Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>

> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> left off the e.

And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
written Wednesday. And if they wanted it to be pronounced nife, they
shouldn't have written knife. And... back on topic... Worcestershire
sauce...

[Bruce]

In article <lfhk1ch2456sr3oig...@j.net>, Jeßus says...

>
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>

> >On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> >> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
> >

> >I grew up with "sconne",
>
> Same in Aus.
>
> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.

Don't Australians do something unexpected with 'bream', the fish?

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:00:28 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

It's pronounced here as 'brim'.

[Bruce]

In article <gbll1chhn1cm7r2m9...@j.net>, Jeßus says...

Yes, you wouldn't expect that.

[S Viemeister]

On 11/2/2016 8:48 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je?us wrote:

>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>> Same in Aus.
>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>>

>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>

> So was the stone wasn't it?
>
Yes. The Stone of Scone. Of course, you could call it the Stone of
Destiny, and avoid arguments about pronunciation...

[S Viemeister]

On 11/2/2016 8:54 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>> Same in Aus.
>>>
>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>>
>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>

> Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)
>

Pffft.

[S Viemeister]

On 11/2/2016 9:21 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 14:54:22 -0600, graham <gst...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

>>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>>> Same in Aus.
>>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>>
>> Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)
>

> Be quiet Sassenach !
>
:)

[sf]

He's saying "tomato - tomahto". If you're in the UK - they'll still
know what you're talking about if you pronounce it one or the other.
Equate it with the state called Nevada (the correct way) and NeVAHda
(completely wrong).


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[Bruce]

In article <m9ql1chsa6q045rii...@4ax.com>, sf says...

It's a Spanish word and Spanish speaking people would disagree with you.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:93c7117e-5fd1-4415...@googlegroups.com...

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You never eat them?

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[Cindy Hamilton]

Can you articulate why the shape matters? I can see clear differences
in the ingredients (scones vs. biscuits), but I can't see why the
shape matters. Drop biscuits are no particular shape at all, although
they are round-ish.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:137fb869-26a6-42fb...@googlegroups.com...

===================

Perhaps bought ones identify the type, whereas with home made ... all bets
are off:))



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[Brooklyn1]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 16:42:42 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 11/2/2016 4:12 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>> "Nancy Young" wrote in message news:gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7...

>>
>> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>
>>

>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>> left off the e.
>

>> I can't argue with that ... although my bit of England says scon <g>
>
>If it was spelled scon or sconn, we wouldn't be seeing surveys on
>how it's pronounced.
>
>So you say scon, here some people pronounce washing machine 'worshing'
>Regional differences. (shrug)
>
>nancy

Gimme a chawklit schon. . .

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:36:42 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>

wrote:

>In article <gbll1chhn1cm7r2m9...@j.net>, Jeßus says...
>>
>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:00:28 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <lfhk1ch2456sr3oig...@j.net>, Jeßus says...
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>> >> >> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>> >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>> >> >
>> >> >I grew up with "sconne",
>> >>
>> >> Same in Aus.
>> >>
>> >> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>> >
>> >Don't Australians do something unexpected with 'bream', the fish?
>>
>> It's pronounced here as 'brim'.
>
>Yes, you wouldn't expect that.

Australians are known to wash their fices in bisons ???

[Dave Smith]

On 2016-11-03 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
> In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...
>>
>> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>
>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>> left off the e.
>
> And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
> written Wednesday.

There are still some people around who know how to speak English
properly. Most of the people I know pronounce Wednesday as it is
spelled. Those who pronounce it Wensday tend to mispronounce a lot of
other words too.

> And if they wanted it to be pronounced nife, they
> shouldn't have written knife. And... back on topic... Worcestershire
> sauce...

Do you find double letters like ll and ss difficult too?

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 8:57:22 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2016-11-03 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...
> >>
> >> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> >>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
> >>
> >> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> >> left off the e.
> >
> > And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
> > written Wednesday.
>
> There are still some people around who know how to speak English
> properly. Most of the people I know pronounce Wednesday as it is
> spelled. Those who pronounce it Wensday tend to mispronounce a lot of
> other words too.

It might be regional. Practically everybody around here pronounces
it Wensday, regardless of educational level. Watch the Addams
Family some time, and listen to the actors pronounce
"Wednesday Addams".

Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2016-11-03 6:42 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

>> The scones I grew up with were always triangular or diamond shaped.
>> Those cloying sweet scones they sell in Starbucks are triangular. I was
>> surprised to see the things in that video being cut in circles. That is
>> a biscuit. Biscuit and scone recipes vary a lot, with scones tending to
>> be richer, but biscuits are round.
>
> Can you articulate why the shape matters? I can see clear differences
> in the ingredients (scones vs. biscuits), but I can't see why the
> shape matters.

It probably doesn't matter a heck of a lot, though cutting them allows
them to be formed in one shot without having to roll up the in between
bits and doing them again.

> Drop biscuits are no particular shape at all, although
> they are round-ish.

Drop biscuits are a little different from regular biscuits, which are
usually cut with a crinkled edge.

[S Viemeister]

On 11/3/2016 1:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?
>

Wed'nsday

[graham]

After all, it is Woden's Day!

[graham]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcHKm0cm-jI
Graham

[Nancy Young]

And dough and cough, I know there are a lot of exceptions, that wasn't
my point.

And those Worster people can't spell, clearly.

nancy

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

news:d5644914-24ea-4c10...@googlegroups.com...

===============

Yes, I say it wrong too. I pronounce it Wed-ens-day.

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[Janet]

In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>,
rjynlyo...@verizon.net says...

>
> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> > Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>
> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> left off the e.

Then it would be scun, to rhyme with ton.

Janet UK

[Ophelia]

"graham" wrote in message news:nvff2a$gr7$1...@dont-email.me...

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Look what you have done!! Scoan vs sconne indeed <g>

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[Ophelia]

"S Viemeister" wrote in message news:e80rm2...@mid.individual.net...

On 11/3/2016 1:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?
>
Wed'nsday

========

Yes, that's it.

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[Nancy Young]

Scon, to rhyme with con.

nancy

[Nancy Young]

> Gimme a chawklit schon. . .

Just don't feed it to the dawg.

nancy

[Janet]

In article <_5sSz.2231169$yB.19...@fx37.am4>,
rjynlyo...@verizon.net says...
>
> On 11/2/2016 4:23 PM, Je?us wrote:

> > On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 16:07:36 -0400, Nancy Young
> > <rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> >>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
> >>
> >> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> >> left off the e.
> >

> > Yes, it should be gon from common usage ASAP.
>
> Exception to prove the rule. The fact is, people say scone because
> that's how it's how it's spelled. Unfortunately that doesn't stop
> people from saying datta.
>

> I never say scone or scon, so I don't actually care.

all the more for me.

Janet UK

[Janet]

In article <F2tSz.10669$nG2....@fx21.iad>, adavid...@sympatico.ca
says...

>
> On 2016-11-02 4:35 PM, Nancy Young wrote:
>

> >>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> >>> left off the e.
> >>
> >> Yes, it should be gon from common usage ASAP.
> >
> > Exception to prove the rule. The fact is, people say scone because
> > that's how it's how it's spelled. Unfortunately that doesn't stop
> > people from saying datta.
> >
>

> People say what? scone (like gone) or scone (like stone)? I can tell
> you that we had the fairly often when I was a kid. My mother baked them
> and both my grandmothers made them. My maternal grandmother was of
> mostly Irish and Scottish blood and my paternal grandmother was from the
> Nottinghamshire/Sheffield area of England. They all pronounced it
> rhyming with gone. Here we are years later and people who never grew
> up with nice freshly made scones(gone) are buying those super sweetened
> things in Starbucks and calling them scones (stones) because they don't
> know any better.

+99

Janet UK

[Nancy Young]

On 11/3/2016 10:22 AM, Janet wrote:
> In article <_5sSz.2231169$yB.19...@fx37.am4>,
> rjynlyo...@verizon.net says...

>> I never say scone or scon, so I don't actually care.
>
> all the more for me.

Absolutely. It's not as if I hate them but I'm not looking
for them, either. I suppose I could make them, but I'm not
much of a baker.

nancy

[The Greatest!]

On Wednesday, 2 November 2016 19:20:05 UTC-5,

tert in seattle wrote:

> Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2016-11-02 7:04 PM, tert in seattle wrote:
> >> Dave Smith wrote:

> >> here you go - you blind men take a look at this elephant
> >>
> >> http://www.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.cam.ac.uk/files/scone_rhyme_with_gone.jpg
> >>
> >
> >
> > My English born grandmother was from the Nottingham/Sheffield area
> > which, according to that map, is where very few people same scone
> > rhyming with gone, but that is not how she said it.
>
> so what?

Wot else ya expect from the Sammy Maudlin of rfc, tert...???


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[jmcquown]

On 11/2/2016 4:54 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, S Viemeister wrote:

>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>

>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>

>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>>
>>> Same in Aus.
>>>
>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>>

>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>
> Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)

> Graham

Music *can* come out of bagpipes. Not that it has anything to do with
scones. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBzkw6UnIwE

Bagpipes are not always harsh.

Jill

[graham]

Especially when being incinerated!

[jmcquown]

On 11/2/2016 4:54 PM, graham wrote:
> On 11/2/2016 2:32 PM, S Viemeister wrote:
>> On 11/2/2016 8:13 PM, Je�us wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
>>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I grew up with "sconne",
>>>
>>> Same in Aus.
>>>
>>> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
>>>
>> And on yet another hand, Scone in Scotland, is pronounced 'skoon'...
>
> Yeah, well, that's where people think music comes out of bagpipes:-)
> Graham

There's this beautiful music out of bags and pipes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeRR6O030v8

James Horner died in a plane crash a few years ago. That's very sad.
He was one of the great orchestrators of wonderful movie music. I love
a good sound track. :)

Jill

[Janet]

In article <jTHSz.2566129$AB.4...@fx41.am4>,
rjynlyo...@verizon.net says...

Scones are so easy even a non-baker can't go wrong. That's why they're
the first recipe taught in school cookery classes... success is
guaranteed :-)

Janet UK

[graham]

Caterwauling!

[tert in seattle]

Bruce wrote:
> In article <m9ql1chsa6q045rii...@4ax.com>, sf says...

>>
>> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 00:19:21 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
>> <te...@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Dave Smith wrote:
>

>> > > My English born grandmother was from the Nottingham/Sheffield area
>> > > which, according to that map, is where very few people same scone
>> > > rhyming with gone, but that is not how she said it.
>> >
>> > so what?
>>

>> He's saying "tomato - tomahto". If you're in the UK - they'll still
>> know what you're talking about if you pronounce it one or the other.
>> Equate it with the state called Nevada (the correct way) and NeVAHda
>> (completely wrong).
>

> It's a Spanish word and Spanish speaking people would disagree with you.

so what?

[Nancy Young]

On 11/3/2016 10:58 AM, Janet wrote:
>,
> rjynlyo...@verizon.net says...

>> Absolutely. It's not as if I hate them but I'm not looking
>> for them, either. I suppose I could make them, but I'm not
>> much of a baker.
>
> Scones are so easy even a non-baker can't go wrong. That's why they're
> the first recipe taught in school cookery classes... success is
> guaranteed :-)

I really should try them. All I know is don't twist the cutter,
just like with biscuits. I won't be making them in the immediate
future (small hand injury) but I'll set a reminder. I like raisins,
is that a common ingredient? Do you have a recipe that you would
share? You know, the easy one from early school cookery days. heh

nancy

[The Greatest!]

tert...you CAN'T win...


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[Ophelia]

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news:TzJSz.1246950$zE.12...@fx46.am4...

=========================

http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/british/rich-fruit-scones

and you can use whatever fruit you like. I prefer raisins too:)



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[The Greatest!]

Ms. O, this is the deliciously hilarious "Scones Scene", from the infamous 1968 lesbian - themed film _The Killing of Sister George_. Mercy Croft, the starchy BBC executive in the hat, is played by Coral Browne, who a bit later became Mrs. Vincent Price!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB1ZNV5xXtE

Question to Ms. O or anyone: are "Scotch scones" as referenced in this clip a spec -i - AL - ity of Scotland, or...???


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[Nancy Young]

On 11/3/2016 12:35 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> "Nancy Young" wrote in message news:TzJSz.1246950$zE.12...@fx46.am4...

> I really should try them. All I know is don't twist the cutter,
> just like with biscuits. I won't be making them in the immediate
> future (small hand injury) but I'll set a reminder. I like raisins,
> is that a common ingredient? Do you have a recipe that you would
> share? You know, the easy one from early school cookery days. heh

> http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/british/rich-fruit-scones
>
>
> and you can use whatever fruit you like. I prefer raisins too:)

Thanks very much!

nancy

[Brooklyn1]

Nancy Young wrote:
>Brooklyn1 wrote:

>>Nancy Young wrote:
>>>
>>> If it was spelled scon or sconn, we wouldn't be seeing surveys on
>>> how it's pronounced.
>>>
>>> So you say scon, here some people pronounce washing machine 'worshing'
>>> Regional differences. (shrug)
>
>> Gimme a chawklit schon. . .
>
>Just don't feed it to the dawg.
>

These will put hair on your chest:
http://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/triple-chocolate-scones-recipe
http://allrecipes.com/recipe/17914/english-royalty-chocolate-chip-scones/
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/cinnamon-chocolate-scones-recipe.html
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/sandra-lee/mocha-chip-scones-recipe.html

[Brooklyn1]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 08:58:07 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2016-11-03 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...

>>>
>>> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>

>>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>>> left off the e.
>>

>> And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
>> written Wednesday.
>
>There are still some people around who know how to speak English
>properly. Most of the people I know pronounce Wednesday as it is
>spelled. Those who pronounce it Wensday tend to mispronounce a lot of
>other words too.

Before I retired I pronounced Wednesday Humpday!

[Brooklyn1]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 06:09:56 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, November 3, 2016 at 8:57:22 AM UTC-4, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2016-11-03 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> > In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...
>> >>
>> >> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>> >>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>> >>
>> >> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>> >> left off the e.
>> >
>> > And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
>> > written Wednesday.
>>
>> There are still some people around who know how to speak English
>> properly. Most of the people I know pronounce Wednesday as it is
>> spelled. Those who pronounce it Wensday tend to mispronounce a lot of
>> other words too.
>

>It might be regional. Practically everybody around here pronounces
>it Wensday, regardless of educational level. Watch the Addams
>Family some time, and listen to the actors pronounce
>"Wednesday Addams".
>

>Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?

Tuesday Weld was cuter.

[Ophelia]

"The Greatest!" wrote in message
news:55dcd228-b736-4e47...@googlegroups.com...

Good Grief!!! I don't think I will be interested in watching
that:))

Question to Ms. O or anyone: are "Scotch scones" as referenced in this clip
a spec -i - AL - ity of Scotland, or...???

Sheila Viemeister is the Scottish expert around here, my
scones are Yorkshire scones:))) I get some lovely scones up here though
which seem very similar

Hers are some Scottish drop scones though

http://www.scottishrecipes.co.uk/droppedscone.php


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[Brooklyn1]

On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 10:14:06 -0400, Nancy Young
<rjynlyo...@verizon.net> wrote:

>On 11/3/2016 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...
>>>
>>> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
>>>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
>>>
>>> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
>>> left off the e.
>>
>> And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have

>> written Wednesday. And if they wanted it to be pronounced nife, they
>> shouldn't have written knife. And... back on topic... Worcestershire
>> sauce...
>
>And dough and cough, I know there are a lot of exceptions, that wasn't
>my point.

Perhaps spit out as expectations. . .

[Ophelia]

"Nancy Young" wrote in message news:sUJSz.341345$WV4....@fx12.fr7...

==================

You could mix them in your mixer you know. When my arfur is playing up a
use mine. :)

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[graham]

They are as near as dammit the same as "dollar-sized" N.Am pancakes.
Graham

[The Greatest!]

It's just several minutes, you'll have a laugh...

> Question to Ms. O or anyone: are "Scotch scones" as referenced in this clip
> a spec -i - AL - ity of Scotland, or...???
>
> Sheila Viemeister is the Scottish expert around here, my
> scones are Yorkshire scones:))) I get some lovely scones up here though
> which seem very similar
>
> Hers are some Scottish drop scones though
>
> http://www.scottishrecipes.co.uk/droppedscone.php

Thank you, luv...


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[Bruce]

In article <267m1c9av0fcsrht4...@4ax.com>,
lucreti...@fl.it says...
>
> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 17:36:42 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <gbll1chhn1cm7r2m9...@j.net>, Jeßus says...
> >>
> >> On Thu, 3 Nov 2016 16:00:28 +1100, Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <lfhk1ch2456sr3oig...@j.net>, Jeßus says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 11:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> >> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> >> >>
> >> >> >On Wednesday, November 2, 2016 at 2:45:00 PM UTC-4, graham wrote:
> >> >> >> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> >> >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
> >> >> >

> >> >> >I grew up with "sconne",
> >> >>
> >> >> Same in Aus.
> >> >>
> >> >> OTOH, the town of Scone, NSW, is 'Scoan'.
> >> >

> >> >Don't Australians do something unexpected with 'bream', the fish?
> >>
> >> It's pronounced here as 'brim'.
> >
> >Yes, you wouldn't expect that.
>
> Australians are known to wash their fices in bisons ???

A fice could be an Australian face but what's a bison, apart from the
animal? :)

[Bruce]

In article <OuGSz.21401$mI2....@fx08.iad>, Dave Smith says...

>
> On 2016-11-03 12:43 AM, Bruce wrote:
> > In article <gIrSz.338779$613.2...@fx24.fr7>, Nancy Young says...
> >>

> >> On 11/2/2016 2:44 PM, graham wrote:
> >>> Here we go again! How to pronounce "Scone".
> >>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/food-and-drink/news/survey-reveals-correct-way-to-pronounce-scone/
> >>

> >> If they wanted it to be pronounced scon by everyone, they should have
> >> left off the e.
> >
> > And if they wanted it to be pronouced Wensday, they shouldn't have
> > written Wednesday.
>

> There are still some people around who know how to speak English
> properly. Most of the people I know pronounce Wednesday as it is
> spelled. Those who pronounce it Wensday tend to mispronounce a lot of
> other words too.

Really? "Wed nes day" with 3 syllables? I've never heard that.

>
> > And if they wanted it to be pronounced nife, they
> > shouldn't have written knife. And... back on topic... Worcestershire
> > sauce...
>

> Do you find double letters like ll and ss difficult too?

Not particularly.

[The Greatest!]

http://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/the-real-tuesday-weld

“From the time she first entered America's consciousness in the '50s sitcom The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, it was obvious that Weld was different from the Sandra Dees of the world, and not just because of her improbable first name. Weld's apple-pie looks hid a dark, dangerous undercurrent. In her characters, sex and violence were inevitably linked. Her persona was innocent yet amoral—a fille fatale. Weld was Kubrick's first choice for Lolita, but she turned him down, later claiming “I didn't have to play it. I was Lolita.”

[Dave Smith]

Perhaps the problem is that if you are not a baker and did not grow up
in a family that enjoyed freshly baked things you have never had a nice
fresh scone. They are like biscuits in a number of ways. They are made
of similar ingredients and in a similar style and, like biscuits they
are meant to be eaten fresh. They should be eaten warm.... not hot out
of the oven, but freshly made and still swarm.

[Bruce]

In article <nvff2a$gr7$1...@dont-email.me>, graham says...
>
> On 11/3/2016 7:17 AM, S Viemeister wrote:

> > On 11/3/2016 1:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> >> Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?
> >>

> > Wed'nsday
> >
> After all, it is Woden's Day!

If it's Wodan's day, why say Wed'nsday? If I was Wodan, I'd be pretty
pissed off.

[Bruce]

In article <e80v6u...@mid.individual.net>, Ophelia says...
>
> "S Viemeister" wrote in message news:e80rm2...@mid.individual.net...

>
> On 11/3/2016 1:09 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> > Do you pronounce it Wed-ens-day or Wed-ness-day (or something else)?
> >
> Wed'nsday
>

> ========
>
> Yes, that's it.

Do you say that?

[Bruce]

In article <3cb7ea73-d115-4782...@googlegroups.com>, The
Greatest! says...

Win what?

[Bruce]

In article <slrno1moe...@ftupet.ftupet.com>, tert in seattle
says...

First you take English and turn it into something unheard of and now you
start on Spanish?

[Nancy2]

...like saying, I think correctly, "crepe," like pronouncing the first "e" like it
is in "crept" while most people say it like it is rhyming with "grape."

N.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message
news:MPG.32861f81...@News.Individual.NET...

==

Yes:)

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[Ophelia]

"graham" wrote in message news:nvfqvj$vng$1...@dont-email.me...

=================

I bow to your superior knowledge:))


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[Bruce]

In article <eea2837e-229d-4f46...@googlegroups.com>,
Nancy2 says...

>
> ...like saying, I think correctly, "crepe," like pronouncing the first "e" like it
> is in "crept"

Yes, that's the original French way.

> while most people say it like it is rhyming with "grape."

Maybe because the French way can lead to confusion in English.