Making my Baked Beans now!

[John Kuthe]

4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.

When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!

John Kuthe...

[Sheldon Martin]

Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
too.

[John Kuthe]

I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!

5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.

John Kuthe...

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:22:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>> >
>> >When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
>> >
>> >John Kuthe...
>>
>> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
>> too.
>
>I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
>
>5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.
>
>John Kuthe...

Dried beans are a PIA.

[John Kuthe]

Beans are DONE and cooling.

:-)

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:11:47 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>

> 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>

> John Kuthe...
>
I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home. A
conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his patients
to his awful, lingering garlic breath.

Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are trapped,
probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all over them.

[Bruce]

So John calls Bryan a narcissist and you call John a narcissist. It
would be nice if Bryan now called you a narcissist.

[Hank Rogers]

Did yoose invite Popeye?

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe the beans will counter the garlic breath. At least Druce will
enjoy the new aroma.

[Bryan Simmons]

John is retired. He is no longer a threat to patients. He inherited money from an aunt. He can eat as much garlic as he desires.

--Bryan

[John Kuthe]

Almost retired, 6 years out to retire on full Soc Sec benefits of $1600/mo.

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Would that enable you to sniff all three?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 8:16:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> So John calls Bryan a narcissist and you call John a narcissist. It
> would be nice if Bryan now called you a narcissist.
>

Would that make you happy?

Maybe he'll bring me a gallon of sweet tea, too.

[Bruce]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:10:35 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 8:16:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> So John calls Bryan a narcissist and you call John a narcissist. It
>> would be nice if Bryan now called you a narcissist.
>>
>Would that make you happy?

Yes, it would be esthetically pleasing and symmetrical.

[Julie Bove]

"Bruce" <br...@null.null> wrote in message
news:im1qgfh1rrtk98dti...@4ax.com...

Haha!

[Mike Duffy]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 20:18:36 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:


> Maybe the beans will counter the garlic breath.

Hank: Beans don't 'counter' garlic breath.

Rather, they augment the concentration of foul-smelling components that
end up being produced in the digestive tract after eating allium.
(Onion / Garlic / Leek / Scallion / etc.)

It is the mustard that give beans their bad rap. Related Brassica
(rutabaga / cabbage / kale / etc. ) and asparagus add a similar 'air'.

(Thiol / Sulfanyl / Mercaptan)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

The gallon of sweetened iced tea would make it pleasing and symmetrical.

[Bryan Simmons]

Beans contain polysaccharides that humans don't make the enzymes to break down, but bacteria in the colon can digest them, and the byproduct is carbon dioxide, which, when expelled as flatus, carries fecal odors. Cooked, rehydrated onions reign. One ten sack of White Castles with extra onion has the potential to flavor an entire gymnasium. https://www.target.com/p/gas-treatment-and-prevention-110ct-up-38-up-8482/-/A-47939611

--Bryan

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:085qgflensb8pi00e...@4ax.com...

==

aesthetically :p

[Bruce]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:52:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Oh no, I'm turning American!

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:6pvqgfhkn2u389955...@4ax.com...

=====

Pah! Behave yourself!!

[Bruce]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:12:39 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>"Bruce" wrote in message news:6pvqgfhkn2u389955...@4ax.com...
>
>On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:52:23 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:085qgflensb8pi00e...@4ax.com...
>>

>>Yes, it would be esthetically pleasing and symmetrical.
>>
>>==
>>
>>aesthetically :p
>
>Oh no, I'm turning American!
>
>=====
>
> Pah! Behave yourself!!

I shall!

[Gary]

Reminds me of an old song I liked:
"Turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think
so"

[Bruce]

This one?
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCj2I0EJ9PM>

[Mike Duffy]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 01:56:58 -0700, Bryan Simmons wrote:

> Beans [...] make [...] carbon dioxide [...] carries fecal odors.

Yes. I explained this to Hank recently in a different thread.


> Cooked, rehydrated onions reign. [...] entire gymnasium.

I'm sure your implied anecdote is accurate (re. flavouring a gym).

But what is the basis of your assertion that dehydration then hydration
then cooking is better than raw at producing foul emissions?

(Or perhaps you meant cooked then dehydrated then rehydrated?)

As ds1 explained a few weeks ago, the chemical reactions of
'browning' (what others call 'caramelization' & the 'Maillard reaction'),
are extremely complex.

We do know that many of the allium & brassica chemicals occur in separate
cell types, causing our eyes to cry & 'hot' taste sensation only when the
plant cell walls are broken, either by maceration or cooking.


My best guess at the absolute smelliest gym would be pureed allium
(smorgasbord), egg yolk, and fresh-mixed mustard as a glaze over stewed
mustard greens & asparagus tips on a bed of rutabaga (for the
polysaccharides.)

Wow, that made me fart just thinking about it.

[Taxed and Spent]

You need some cheese and fermented soy beans in there somewhere.

[Hank Rogers]

Careful, you might get Druce excited.

[Bruce]

lol

[Hank Rogers]

Got you excited, huh?

[Alex]

Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:22:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:

>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>>>>

>>>> When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...

>>> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
>>> too.
>> I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
>>
>> 5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
> Dried beans are a PIA.

Not if they only come in 5" bags.

[Alex]

That equates to $9.23 per hour for a full time worker.  Nice!

[Mike Duffy]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:27:41 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:

> Got you excited, huh?

Hey Hank! I encountered some sort of conundrum in Google images.

I tried looking up 'Dutch Poodle', and all I get are pictures of French
Poodles with bad haircuts that make the dogs look like extra-terrestrials
wearing some sort of battle armor in a Star Wars movie.

What's going on? Last week I gave the lady my credit card number on the
phone to pay up all my Internet taxes so nothing should be blocked
anymore.

[GM]

He won't even have the jack to run for Mayor of Da Loo...

--
Best
Greg

[Bruce]

On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 23:31:20 -0000 (UTC), Mike Duffy
<bo...@nosuch.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 17:27:41 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:
>
>> Got you excited, huh?
>
>Hey Hank! I encountered some sort of conundrum in Google images.
>
>I tried looking up 'Dutch Poodle', and all I get are pictures of French
>Poodles with bad haircuts that make the dogs look like extra-terrestrials
>wearing some sort of battle armor in a Star Wars movie.

Passive aggressive is for cowards.

[Dave Smith]

Lucky you. I got a call last week to tell me that my social insurance
number has been suspended.

;-)

[cshenk]

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
> >

> > When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup
> > brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less
> > cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and
> > cook! Freeze to keep good!
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
> too.

Canned beans do not cost less than dried. Generally you spend 4x as
much for canned.

[cshenk]

Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:22:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
> >> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in
> EVOO. >> >
> >> >When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4
> cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less
> cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and
> cook! Freeze to keep good! >> > >> >John Kuthe... >>
> >> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost
> less >> too.
> >

> > I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
> >
> > 5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.
> >
> > John Kuthe...
>
> Dried beans are a PIA.

Thats because you don't kow how to do it. Julie, John and I do (others
I am sure).

[cshenk]

Hey Jon, did you mean 5lb bags or 5inch? Radically different volume
there.

[cshenk]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:11:47 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> >
> > 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
> >

> > John Kuthe...
> >
> I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home.
> A conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his
> patients to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
>
> Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are
> trapped, probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all
> over them.

Joan, not everyone is obsessive over a bit of garlic. Why are you?

[Bruce]

If you're an old school Anglo (or Dutcho), garlic on a person's breath
stinks. If you work in close proximity to people, that's something to
take into account.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:39:34 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:

>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>
> > I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home.
> > A conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his
> > patients to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
> >
> > Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are
> > trapped, probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all
> > over them.
>
> Joan, not everyone is obsessive over a bit of garlic. Why are you?
>

I'm going to guess his patients wish to God he'd lay off the garlic
laden potatoes. How would you like to be trapped in a bed and an RN
comes in to administer medication, take your b/p, and talk to you while
reeking garlic? He eats those garlic potatoes daily so you know he simply
reeks. Brushing teeth, flossing, and gargling is not going to erase that
potent stench.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:51:40 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> If you're an old school Anglo (or Dutcho), garlic on a person's breath
> stinks. If you work in close proximity to people, that's something to
> take into account.
>

Thank you.

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 19:22:41 -0400, Sheldon Martin wrote:

> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>>

>>When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
>>
>>John Kuthe...
>
> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
> too.

4 pounds of dried Great Northern beans is $7.23 (makes 24 cups
rehydrated/cooked). The same amount of pre-cooked canned Goya
cannelini beans cost $27.04. Making the Goya beans almost 4X more
expensive than bagged dry beans.

Prices taken from HEB.com.

Everybody knows that bagged dry beans are ALWAYS cheaper than
canned, let alone the Goya upcharge.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:22:44 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>>>
>>>When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
>>>
>>>John Kuthe...
>>
>> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost less
>> too.
>

> I buy my dried beans from an Indian food store in STL!
>
> 5" bags of black, chick peas, red kidney and black-eyed peas.

For baked beans?!?!?

-sw

[Sqwertz]

See? Even Carol agrees with me (now I've gota re-think my
calculations.... ;-)

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:24:57 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:


> John is retired. He is no longer a threat to patients. He
> inherited money from an aunt. He can eat as much garlic as he
> desires.

Ouch. You've been out of town for a while. John is broke again. He
spent more on a roof repair than he did the whole rest of the house.
Not to mention all sorts of other frivolous expenditures.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

That's less than what a fast food employer pays for a single entry
level employee (when you include benefits/employer taxes such as SS,
SDI, etc...).

-w

[Hank Rogers]

Well, everybody except Popeye. Dried beans are a luxury in his area.

[Gary]

He's wearing a mask now, or should be. Good for garlic breath.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-14 10:39 p.m., cshenk wrote:

> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>

>> I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home.
>> A conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his
>> patients to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
>>
>> Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are
>> trapped, probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all
>> over them.
>
> Joan, not everyone is obsessive over a bit of garlic. Why are you?
>

It's one thing to have a little garlic and it is something different to
be consuming large amounts of it every day. Cheap Bob used to think that
garlic had special qualities and ate it every day. He even also took
garlic pills. He smelled bad. He washed and showered frequently, but
there was a cloud of stink that wafted around him. It got into his
clothes. It just wasn't pleasant to be near the guy.

[Sheldon Martin]

That's because you buy those itty bitty 15 ounce cans.
https://www.amazon.com/TableTop-King-Light-Kidney-Beans/dp/B079DXY81V/ref=sr_1_22?dchild=1&keywords=%2310+can+beans&qid=1594817113&sr=8-22
And Amazon prices are higher than the big box stores because they add
in shipping
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bush-s-Low-Sodium-Canned-Pinto-Beans-111-Oz-Can/166916952
If you shop the big box stores you'll find great prices on canned
beans in the larger size cans... I typically buy the 44 ounce cans.
When I find what I like I'll buy the case... we like black beans. Plus
there's big savings in not having to cook beans; time and fuel... also
canned beans are perfectly cooked, cooking dried beans is often hit &
miss. I had to cook lots of dried beans aboard ship (we had no
storage for cans), for me canned beans are a big luxury. I make large
amounts of bean soup and refried from #10 cans and it freezes well in
portions. We prefer refried black beans, (Belize style).
I think cooking dried beans at home a big waste of time, and if they
turn out over or under cooked you'll be wishing for a fantail.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

You think a mask is going to stifle that garlic breath? I've got the deed
to the Grand Canyon in case you're interested in buying a few hundred acres
and moving them to Virginia Beach.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:14:23 AM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> It's one thing to have a little garlic and it is something different to
> be consuming large amounts of it every day. Cheap Bob used to think that
> garlic had special qualities and ate it every day. He even also took
> garlic pills. He smelled bad. He washed and showered frequently, but
> there was a cloud of stink that wafted around him. It got into his
> clothes. It just wasn't pleasant to be near the guy.
>

Thank you.

I can't imagine his poor patients having to deal with that stench on his
part-time days. They're probably thankful he's not working there 5 days
a week and offending everyone within a 10-foot radius. Probably one of
the reasons they put him on week-ends and only part-time so they wouldn't
have to smell that stench oozing out of his pores and off his breath.

[Gary]

You might want to shower more often, babe. :)

[Gary]

Joan - The official RFC pitbull. :)

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:16:56 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> >

> > I can't imagine his poor patients having to deal with that stench on his
> > part-time days. They're probably thankful he's not working there 5 days
> > a week and offending everyone within a 10-foot radius. Probably one of
> > the reasons they put him on week-ends and only part-time so they wouldn't
> > have to smell that stench oozing out of his pores and off his breath.
>
> You might want to shower more often, babe. :)
>

Yet another stupid comment, fucktard. I'm not the one consuming heads of
garlic daily. I'm probably cleaner than you'd ever hope to be.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:17:01 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Joan - The official RFC pitbull. :)
>

Gary - The official dumbass.

[Gary]

Funny how in my entire life, I've never been near anyone that
reeked of garlic. I'll bet you reek of too much perfume since
you're typical old lady, heavy on the makeup. Too much perfume
usually comes with that. Hopefully not though.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:49:52 PM UTC-4, Gary wrote:
> "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:16:56 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> > >
> > > "itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can't imagine his poor patients having to deal with that stench on his
> > > > part-time days. They're probably thankful he's not working there 5 days
> > > > a week and offending everyone within a 10-foot radius. Probably one of
> > > > the reasons they put him on week-ends and only part-time so they wouldn't
> > > > have to smell that stench oozing out of his pores and off his breath.
> > >
> > > You might want to shower more often, babe. :)
> > >
> > Yet another stupid comment, fucktard. I'm not the one consuming heads of
> > garlic daily. I'm probably cleaner than you'd ever hope to be.
>
> Funny how in my entire life, I've never been near anyone that
> reeked of garlic.

That's because ferrets don't eat garlic.

I can smell garlic on my husband when he eats it. I can smell garlic
sweating out of my hands when I eat it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

With that stench no one with the virus will come near you.

[Dave Smith]

Showering didn't help Cheap Bob. He was always clean and showered daily.
He still had that garlic stench about him. He had been eating garlic for
so long he had probably gone nose blind to it.

[Bruce]

No, the official average American.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 15 Jul 2020 09:15:07 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2020-07-14 10:39 p.m., cshenk wrote:
>> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>
>>> I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home.
>>> A conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his
>>> patients to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
>>>
>>> Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are
>>> trapped, probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all
>>> over them.
>>
>> Joan, not everyone is obsessive over a bit of garlic. Why are you?
>>
>It's one thing to have a little garlic and it is something different to
>be consuming large amounts of it every day.

Thanks, Dave. I made a note of that.

[Bruce]

She needs a muzzle. She doesn't know how to behave in public.

[dsi1]

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 1:11:47 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>
> When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4 cup brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and cook! Freeze to keep good!
>
> John Kuthe...

Sounds good. I wouldn't make beans that way but I'd certainly eat it made that way.

For breakfast yesterday, I made pancakes. For dinner I had katsu curry. Chicken cutlets with Japanese style curry. The plate came with a quart of curry. Oh boy!

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/qdPdqpikSF27uF53tPk2Jg.Wgu5yFtj5eHf97FArjzcs1

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/BQpdUmnSTcq1o7fF022Yig.UamV37-8Qlq8MT9FWBkUFJ

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:49:52 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
>
> Funny how in my entire life, I've never been near anyone that
> reeked of garlic. I'll bet you reek of too much perfume since
> you're typical old lady, heavy on the makeup. Too much perfume
> usually comes with that. Hopefully not though.
>

Well hell, that's not surprising. You shop at the crack dawn, get pissed
off because the bank is not open before 7:00 a.m. and then back home. No
wonder you've never been near anyone who reeks of garlic, you're the only
out besides the chickens so early in the day.

I see, since I like to wear ruby red lipstick I automatically wear heavy
makeup and drown myself in perfume. Try again, you keep losing in this
conversation.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:38:49 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> Showering didn't help Cheap Bob. He was always clean and showered daily.
> He still had that garlic stench about him. He had been eating garlic for
> so long he had probably gone nose blind to it.
>

Comes out in their pores. Great tasting in a dish but heavens, the stench
all day and the next day. I love the stuff but make a point of not eating
it for at least two days before a doctor or dentist appointment.

I suppose it's still on the market but I recall seeing in the pharmacy area
of stores garlic capsules being sold with the guarantee of no garlic smell.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Goose, you need to get your nose out of Gary's butt and come up for air
occasionally. It's not good to be constantly breathly obnoxious fumes.

[Bruce]

It's true though, with the way you mouth off and name call people who
haven't done anything to you. And then you're a normal person again
for a day and then it starts again. Like a form of Tourette's.

[Hank Rogers]

He has a snorkel he uses to grab an occasional breath. Saves a lot
of time, so he can sniff longer.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:26:32 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> It's true though, with the way you mouth off and name call people who
> haven't done anything to you. And then you're a normal person again
> for a day and then it starts again. Like a form of Tourette's.
>

You have Tourettes? I'm sorry but not surprised.

[Bruce]

Back into child mode.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 5:36:37 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> Back into child mode.
>
If you feel comfortable there, be my guest.

[cshenk]

Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 14 Jul 2020 21:34:05 -0500, cshenk wrote:
>
> > Sheldon Martin wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 16:11:44 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in
> EVOO. >>>
> >>> When ther beans are done, drain, refill with clean H2O, add 1/4
> cup >>> brown sugar, 5 bouillon cubes, 1/4cup+ of sweet paprika, less
> >>> cayenne, molasses, bay leaves, 16oz can of tomato paste, stir and
> >>> cook! Freeze to keep good!
> >>>
> >>> John Kuthe...
> >>

> >> Would have been far better to use Goya canned beans... and cost
> less >> too.
> >
> > Canned beans do not cost less than dried. Generally you spend 4x as
> > much for canned.
>

> See? Even Carol agrees with me (now I've gota re-think my
> calculations.... ;-)
>
> -sw

The only way canned beans can come close for cost is if you try to
stovetop dry ones them then add cost of electricity. Most people are
smart enough to not use a stovetop method for long if they are even
*remotely* interested in cost won't use dried beans (other than
lentils) there. They test it or randomly make them.

It's easy to *start* with stovetop though and no slam if so.

My own interests lay more in not wasting energy resources.

Even today, your average crockpot cost per *day* (24 hours) is 25cents
but your stove top is 15cents per hour (gas, calculated with my local
rates). That works out as $3.60 for the stove at 24hrs vs 25cents.....

Sheldon may be looking at dried volume and wet volume and 'thinking' he
gets more?

[cshenk]

No Sheldon, they STILL aren't cheaper in volume than volume dried.

You were on smaller ships so learned smaller cooking and cheats of
canned beans.

You didnt have *space* to cook dried beans while doing other stuff so
got canned in your stores then.

It's ok that you find cans work today when just feeding 2, but you
might need to know that a 16oz can has (on average) 3oz of dried bean
equal.

[cshenk]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 9:39:34 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
> >
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >

> > > I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing
> > > home. A conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then
> > > subject his patients to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
> > >
> > > Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients
> > > are trapped, probably in their beds, and can't escape you
> > > breathing all over them.
> >
> > Joan, not everyone is obsessive over a bit of garlic. Why are you?
> >

> I'm going to guess his patients wish to God he'd lay off the garlic
> laden potatoes. How would you like to be trapped in a bed and an RN
> comes in to administer medication, take your b/p, and talk to you
> while reeking garlic? He eats those garlic potatoes daily so you
> know he simply reeks. Brushing teeth, flossing, and gargling is not
> going to erase that potent stench.

Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but you
seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
something?

[Bruce]

Yes, people who haven't eaten it or never eat it, may go 'Eek!'. How
can this be news to you?

[cshenk]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 11:49:52 AM UTC-5, Gary wrote:
> >
> > Funny how in my entire life, I've never been near anyone that
> > reeked of garlic. I'll bet you reek of too much perfume since
> > you're typical old lady, heavy on the makeup. Too much perfume
> > usually comes with that. Hopefully not though.
> >

> Well hell, that's not surprising. You shop at the crack dawn, get
> pissed off because the bank is not open before 7:00 a.m. and then
> back home. No wonder you've never been near anyone who reeks of
> garlic, you're the only out besides the chickens so early in the day.
>

Try a little reality. Gary doesn't live in Podunk Iowa. He lives in
the largest city in the state surrounded by others who are 3-5th
largest.

Until Covid-19, all out main chain stores were 24/7.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:35:43 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but you
> seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
> something?
>

I am abnormally sensitive to people who eat it like it's candy and then want
to talk to me. Surely you've been around people who have eaten strong raw
onions and you want to get as far away from them as possible.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:52:32 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>
> Try a little reality. Gary doesn't live in Podunk Iowa. He lives in
> the largest city in the state surrounded by others who are 3-5th
> largest.
>
> Until Covid-19, all out main chain stores were 24/7.
>

Carol, wake up! Gary shops at the crack of dawn, always has, pandemic or
not. He's always bitched because the banks are not open at the crack of
dawn. He's always bitched because all stores are not open at 6:00 a.m.
whether it's a grocery store or not. And him living in the largest city
in the state has nothing to do with it. I live in the largest city in my
state and stores have always been open 24/7 until Covid-19 but I don't
gripe because I'm not being accommodated.

[Frank Burger]

On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 18:24:57 -0700 (PDT), Bryan Simmons wrote:

> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:45:55 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 6:11:47 PM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>
>>> 4+# of beans, 4 large onions, 1.5 heads of garlic, cooked in EVOO.
>>>

>>> John Kuthe...

>>>
>> I'm going to guess you've lost the part-time job at the nursing home. A
>> conscientious employee would not eat garlic and then subject his patients
>> to his awful, lingering garlic breath.
>>
>> Oops sorry, I forgot you are narcissistic. Those poor patients are trapped,
>> probably in their beds, and can't escape you breathing all over them.
>

> John is retired. He is no longer a threat to patients. He inherited money from an aunt. He can eat as much garlic as he desires.

his dad died too and left him much more than the aunt did but he
blew that too. had to mortgage his house to pay for the roof.

[songbird]

cshenk wrote:
...

> The only way canned beans can come close for cost is if you try to
> stovetop dry ones them then add cost of electricity. Most people are
> smart enough to not use a stovetop method for long if they are even
> *remotely* interested in cost won't use dried beans (other than
> lentils) there. They test it or randomly make them.

no, i don't think so...

the important point to know is that you do not need to
massively boil the pot. if you use as low of a simmer as
possible then you are not wasting as much electricity or
gas.

> It's easy to *start* with stovetop though and no slam if so.
>
> My own interests lay more in not wasting energy resources.
>
> Even today, your average crockpot cost per *day* (24 hours) is 25cents
> but your stove top is 15cents per hour (gas, calculated with my local
> rates). That works out as $3.60 for the stove at 24hrs vs 25cents.....

i never cook beans that long. even the firmest and oldest
beans i have will cook in three hours or less.

> Sheldon may be looking at dried volume and wet volume and 'thinking' he
> gets more?

we make large pots of them at a time. it really is an
inexpensive way to go for a lot of very flexible results.
when the beans are done we drain them and then put them
in glass quart jars and freeze them. these then get used
in a lot of different ways after that. when we get low
we put another large pot of beans on the stove.


songbird

[songbird]

no, onions and garlic don't bother me.


songbird

[Leo]

On 2020 Jul 15, , Dave Smith wrote
(in article <LiDPG.58147$TO4....@fx05.iad>):

> It's one thing to have a little garlic and it is something different to

> be consuming large amounts of it every day. Cheap Bob used to think that
> garlic had special qualities and ate it every day. He even also took
> garlic pills. He smelled bad. He washed and showered frequently, but
> there was a cloud of stink that wafted around him. It got into his
> clothes. It just wasn't pleasant to be near the guy.

Does anyone remember DMSO being all the homeopathic rage for a short period
of time? Rub it on your skin and your breath would smell strongly of garlic
for quite a while with magnificent health benefits. I didn’t bump into
any of the reeking new-age faddists in person, but I sure remember the ads
on the car radio. The craze seemed to flare up, then die quickly. There may
have been lawsuits.
Now, one can buy copper infused clothing to complement their ginkgo biloba.
Patent medicine is alive, well and flourishing in the twenty first century.
Hmmm...I appear to have gone off on a tangent. Apologies to any that I
offended.

[Gary]

Frank Burger wrote:

>
> Bryan Simmons wrote:
> > John is retired. He is no longer a threat to patients. He inherited money from an aunt. He can eat as much garlic as he desires.
>
> his dad died too and left him much more than the aunt did but he
> blew that too. had to mortgage his house to pay for the roof.

If he did that, he no longer owns the house.

[Gary]

"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:

> Carol, wake up! Gary shops at the crack of dawn, always has, pandemic or
> not. He's always bitched because the banks are not open at the crack of
> dawn. He's always bitched because all stores are not open at 6:00 a.m.
> whether it's a grocery store or not.

You are correct about me, Joan.
I like to get all chores out of the way as early as possible.
Businesses that don't open until 9-10 sure do annoy me.
Before the current virus thing, Walmart was my friend.
Open 24/7. Now most stores don't open until 7 and I usually
go around 8am.

People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)
I understand that and accept it, and deal with it. Still
annoying to me though. (Grumpy Old Gary)
Hey...I realize that I'm the exception to the rule.

> And him living in the largest city
> in the state has nothing to do with it. I live in the largest city in my
> state and stores have always been open 24/7 until Covid-19 but I don't
> gripe because I'm not being accommodated.

That's because you sleepy late then need time to apply makeup
before going out. heh heh

As far as Virginia Beach being the largest city in Virginia is
only because they cheated years ago. We had the City
and the County of Virginia Beach. One year they combined the
huge county and called all land, The City of VaBeach.
It's a huge land area.

It was a trick to attract tourists. The advertised that
we were the "Largest Resort City in the World." In real
life, our tourist part was smaller than about anywhere.

As far as actual "city," our "town center" is so small.
Anyone visiting from a real city like LA, Chicago, NYC, etc
would laugh at what we call a city.

We combined actual city, all suburbs and even all farm
land and undeveloped land and called it "the City of"
Not to mention many large military bases too.

[Gary]

Leo wrote:
>
> Now, one can buy copper infused clothing to complement their ginkgo biloba.
> Patent medicine is alive, well and flourishing in the twenty first century.
> Hmmm...I appear to have gone off on a tangent. Apologies to any that I
> offended.

Yeah, I've seen all the copper infused clothing commercials and
WTH? Notice that they don't claim it helps anything, they just
infer that it does. Funny misleading ads.

Latest is copper infused face masks. heh heh

[Bruce]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:12:14 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>"itsjoan...@webtv.net" wrote:
>
>> Carol, wake up! Gary shops at the crack of dawn, always has, pandemic or
>> not. He's always bitched because the banks are not open at the crack of
>> dawn. He's always bitched because all stores are not open at 6:00 a.m.
>> whether it's a grocery store or not.
>
>You are correct about me, Joan.
>I like to get all chores out of the way as early as possible.
>Businesses that don't open until 9-10 sure do annoy me.
>Before the current virus thing, Walmart was my friend.
>Open 24/7. Now most stores don't open until 7 and I usually
>go around 8am.
>
>People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)

No, you're lazy. You go to bed early.

[Gary]

I get up early but I'm often up most of the night too.
A few cat naps at night...short.
Can't "burn the candle from both ends" though.
My longer sleep time is during the afternoons when possible.
I've always found that a boring time all my life.

I get by well with about 6 hours total a day.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:47:30 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> >People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)
>>
>> No, you're lazy. You go to bed early.
>
>I get up early but I'm often up most of the night too.
>A few cat naps at night...short.
>Can't "burn the candle from both ends" though.
>My longer sleep time is during the afternoons when possible.
>I've always found that a boring time all my life.
>
>I get by well with about 6 hours total a day.

I think 6-8 hours a day is normal. Why would it be lazy to have those
hours from 2 am until 8 am?

Dave Smith thinks like that: "You do something different than me. That
means you're bad!"

[Hank Rogers]

Sure glad you are so accepting of others ... even evil americans.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 12:42:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:47:30 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
> >Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> >People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)
> >>
> >> No, you're lazy. You go to bed early.
> >

> >I get by well with about 6 hours total a day.
>
> I think 6-8 hours a day is normal. Why would it be lazy to have those
> hours from 2 am until 8 am?
>

I'm *generally* in bed by about 1:00 a.m., sometimes a bit earlier. When I
hit the sack I usually read for an hour but sometimes I don't make it to 30
minutes. I'm also *generally* up by 8:00 - 8:15 or so.

Tuesday I hit the used bookstore and made a haul of 6 books and a DVD.
Started one of the books last night and lasted about 20 minutes.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:45:53 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 12:42:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:47:30 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Bruce wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)
>> >>
>> >> No, you're lazy. You go to bed early.
>> >
>> >I get by well with about 6 hours total a day.
>>
>> I think 6-8 hours a day is normal. Why would it be lazy to have those
>> hours from 2 am until 8 am?
>>
>I'm *generally* in bed by about 1:00 a.m., sometimes a bit earlier. When I
>hit the sack I usually read for an hour but sometimes I don't make it to 30
>minutes. I'm also *generally* up by 8:00 - 8:15 or so.

I don't think that makes you lazy, just because you get up 4 hours
after Gary starts banging on the door of his bank.

[cshenk]

Nor me. Then again, neither John nor I are talking 'raw' in this.
Shrug, oh well. We all have our differences. Let it be but John gets
beat up enpugh and doesn't need to have added factors of people who are
'abnormally sensitive to people who eat it like it's candy and then
want to talk to me.'

[cshenk]

Gary, I was talking population, not land mass.

[Gary]

cshenk wrote:
> Gary, I was talking population, not land mass.

Yes but, increase the land mass and naturally you get
a larger population.

Notable exception:

Alaska
663,268 square miles
2010 population of 710,231

Virginia Beach
497 square miles total
2010 population of 460,000

More than half of all in Alaska
Sounds pretty darn crowded here to me.

We must also be the most waterborn city too
249 square miles is land and 248 square miles water.

[jay]

On 7/16/20 7:44 PM, cshenk wrote:
> songbird wrote:
>
>> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:35:43 PM UTC-5, cshenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Umm, you are abnormally sensitive perhaps to garlic? Sorry but
>> you >> seem to be 'eek! He ate some garlic then treated patients' or
>>>> something?
>>>>
>>> I am abnormally sensitive to people who eat it like it's candy and
>>> then want to talk to me. Surely you've been around people who have
>>> eaten strong raw onions and you want to get as far away from them
>>> as possible.
>>
>> no, onions and garlic don't bother me.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>
> Nor me. Then again, neither John nor I are talking 'raw' in this.
> Shrug, oh well. We all have our differences. Let it be but John gets
> beat up enpugh and doesn't need to have added factors

Truth is Kuthe deserves way more than he actually gets here.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 15:45:53 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, July 16, 2020 at 12:42:20 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 07:47:30 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Bruce wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >People are generally lazy though and like to sleep late. ;)
> >> >>
> >> >> No, you're lazy. You go to bed early.
> >> >
> >> >I get by well with about 6 hours total a day.
> >>
> >> I think 6-8 hours a day is normal. Why would it be lazy to have those
> >> hours from 2 am until 8 am?
> >>
> >I'm *generally* in bed by about 1:00 a.m., sometimes a bit earlier. When I
> >hit the sack I usually read for an hour but sometimes I don't make it to 30
> >minutes. I'm also *generally* up by 8:00 - 8:15 or so.
>
> I don't think that makes you lazy, just because you get up 4 hours
> after Gary starts banging on the door of his bank.

Bruce, when I grumble about hours, I have the right to do that
if other schedules don't fit my perfect world. No need for
anyone else to defend what they do.

I think people that don't get up very early miss out on the
best parts of each day but that's just my opinion.

I call them lazy. Many others will call me lazy to sleep
during the afternoon.

It's all good. I vent here sometimes but no one needs to
defend their different lifestyle. As I've mentioned, I
am the difficult one here.

[Lucretia Borgia]

Like you I prefer shopping in the early morning, however not now. Our
supermarkets all close overnight now (10pm-7a.m) while they wipe
everything down (they really do it, a friends teen got a job doing
that).

Then 7-9a.m. is seniors hour. Suits me, usually go there around 7a.m.
but now I have to shop later, I can't be in a store with a bunch of
other seniors. They can't seem to make up their minds, they don't
follow the direction arrows and at the cashiers???? That's the very
worst. I was behind an old guy who didn't know how to work his debit
card. She tried to guide him by saying, put in your pin number. He
didn't know what that was, she reminded him he must have a 'secret'
number or word then he seemed to get it, it took about ten minutes
arrrggh.

However unlike you, I don't nap in the daytime or I would not get any
sleep at night lol

[Cindy Hamilton]

My grocery store opens at 6 am every day. Tuesdays and Thursdays 6-7 am
are for seniors. I went on Thursdays for a while, then I switched to Fridays.
It's much less crowded and there are no stupid old ditherers.

Cindy Hamilton