Semi-OT: "This Is How Much Time I Actually Spend On Housework in a Week"

Lenona

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Feb 9, 2022, 10:44:21 AM2/9/22

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For this person, it was less than you might expect, even with no babies or toddlers in the house.

But, as "Frugal Zealot" (Amy Dacyczyn) once wrote, big spaces are often easier to keep clean than small spaces.

https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 9, 2022, 1:13:54 PM2/9/22

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Some of her numbers seem about right, but, 7 loads of laundry a week?
The shower cleaning could be cut by putting a squeegee in the shower for
a quick wipe after.

Amy

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Feb 9, 2022, 2:53:59 PM2/9/22

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Ghe? Uhm, can you go into more detail? I don't get it

Amy

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Feb 9, 2022, 2:55:15 PM2/9/22

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Tina

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Feb 9, 2022, 4:00:54 PM2/9/22

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/9/2022 10:43 AM, Lenona wrote:
>> For this person, it was less than you might expect, even with no
>> babies or toddlers in the house.
>>
>> But, as "Frugal Zealot" (Amy Dacyczyn) once wrote, big spaces are
>> often easier to keep clean than small spaces.
>>
>> https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212
>>

> Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

> Some of her numbers seem about right, but, 7 loads of laundry a week?
> The shower cleaning could be cut by putting a squeegee in the shower for
> a quick wipe after.

Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Josh

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Feb 9, 2022, 5:13:06 PM2/9/22

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/9/2022 10:43 AM, Lenona wrote:
>> For this person, it was less than you might expect, even with no

>> babies or toddlers in the houUhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))se.

>>
>> But, as "Frugal Zealot" (Amy Dacyczyn) once wrote, big spaces are
>> often easier to keep clean than small spaces.
>>
>> https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212
>>
>
> Some of her numbers seem about right, but, 7 loads of laundry a week?
> The shower cleaning could be cut by putting a squeegee in the shower for
> a quick wipe after.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 9, 2022, 5:24:55 PM2/9/22

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Damn, she must be bored as hell tracking all her cleaning and figuring
the hours she spends. Good grief, she even bored me reading this.

I'm also going to surmise they have only 2 or 3 towels that they must
be washed twice a week. Plus, the number of changes of clothes
must be minimal as well.

Dave Smith

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Feb 9, 2022, 6:26:11 PM2/9/22

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My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.

Jacky

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Feb 9, 2022, 8:40:35 PM2/9/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:

That's 80% of RFC. You'll have to be more specific.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 9, 2022, 9:17:26 PM2/9/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
> only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
> underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
> towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
> her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
> other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
> separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
> enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
> down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
>

On Monday, I do sheets. Towels are washed when I have a hamper full of
those. When they're used they are hung on a towel bar in the bathroom
until dry then into the hamper. I have enough panties that they are done
every three weeks and twice that many in bras. Dish towels and dish
cloths are washed when I have a small hamper full of those. T shirts
and blue jeans are done when I have a hamper full of those as well.

Anything with a grease spot on it has been treated and washed in warm
water.

Jeanne

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Feb 9, 2022, 9:39:13 PM2/9/22

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:17:19 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>> My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
>> only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
>> underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
>> towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
>> her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
>> other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
>> separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
>> enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
>> down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
>>
>On Monday, I do sheets.

OMG, may we never become such regimented old farts.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 9, 2022, 10:07:46 PM2/9/22

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On 2/9/2022 6:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

>
>
> My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
> only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
> underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
> towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
> her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
> other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
> separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
> enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
> down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.

OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
than me but I do two loads every other week.

One load is whites or anything that get bleach. Underwear, white sweat
socks for instance. The other load is everything else. I put them in
the washer early, then the dryer, then when done my cleaning lady folds
it all.

The sheets and pillowcases she puts together in a bundle and I just put
the ones I want on the bed for her to make it.

My house is smaller (1600 sq ft) than the one in the article but it is
cleaned every other week in 3 1/2 hours. That is floors vaced and
mopped, every surface in two bathrooms cleaned, appliances polished,
cabinets wiped, stove cleaned, etc. She does not stop.

GM

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Feb 9, 2022, 10:16:09 PM2/9/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 8:17:26 PM UTC-6, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> > My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
> > only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
> > underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
> > towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
> > her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
> > other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
> > separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
> > enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
> > down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
> >
> On Monday, I do sheets. Towels are washed when I have a hamper full of
> those. When they're used they are hung on a towel bar in the bathroom
> until dry then into the hamper. I have enough panties that they are done
> every three weeks and twice that many in bras.

You should send those to SHELDON to do, he'd even spring for the Air Express shipping I'd bet...

:o)

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Lenona

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:56:38 AM2/10/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:24:55 PM UTC-5, itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:
> >
> > For this person, it was less than you might expect, even with no
> > babies or toddlers in the house.
> >
> > But, as "Frugal Zealot" (Amy Dacyczyn) once wrote, big spaces are
> > often easier to keep clean than small spaces.
> >
> > https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212
> >
> Damn, she must be bored as hell tracking all her cleaning and figuring
> the hours she spends. Good grief, she even bored me reading this.

Well, I was simply curious enough to google how much time an average adult takes to keep a house neat and clean.

The way I see it, Tess Wilson's story serves as a gentle reminder to the young and not-so-young lazy people that modern housekeeping and cooking are really NOT that exhausting or time consuming. If, that is, everyone in the household is mature enough to be a help rather than a hindrance. Or at least old enough to stay out of the way without getting into mischief.

That is, we're not in the 1950s anymore, when coin-operated laundromats barely existed - never mind automatic washing machines at home. Not to mention all the other time-saving gadgets that didn't exist then but do now. Multitasking has never been easier, with the right attitude. What excuse is there to turn on the oven or set off the washing machine or dishwasher and then laze around when there are still other chores to do?

Btw, last November, there was a fierce AITA debate at Reddit regarding a man who laughed gently at his date - an unreasonable woman who seriously expected to be supported as a full-time housewife, but who didn't want children. As some posters were smart enough to point out, we'd laugh in the face of any MAN who didn't want kids but expected to be supported by his wife and who tried to pretend that housekeeping for two adults is typically a full-time job, since it isn't, so what's the difference?

But, Tess Wilson's story also reminds me, unfortunately, of an unpleasant constant scenario at the comic strip "Zits."

Namely (I wrote this elsewhere in 2010):

Why did the creators of the strip originally have Connie (Jeremy's mother) as a child psychologist who was working part-time and was writing a book, only to change her to a stay-at-home mother of a...teenager?

Given that it's probably safe to say that about 90% of modern SAHMs go back to the paid workforce once the youngest child is 10, if not earlier, it seems that the only reason they did that was to make Connie look petty and stupid whenever she asks Jeremy to do ANY chores outside of his room. Or, to put it another way, Jeremy now has a VERY rare excuse to say to himself: "I am a typical overburdened high-schooler who's already working 50 hours a week for no pay; she's a housewife who could easily get everything done in 30 hours, and she expects me to lighten HER workload? I don't think so!"

Again, since it IS a rare excuse, what's the point of letting him have it? Except maybe to imply to the readers that ALL mothers are being petty and stupid when they expect boys to do housework - or learn to cook without making a huge mess or neglecting to clean that up?

Jeanne

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:21:21 AM2/10/22

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Jeanne

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:22:28 AM2/10/22

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:31:51 AM2/10/22

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On 2/9/2022 6:25 PM, Dave Smith wrote:

> My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
> only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
> underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
> towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
> her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
> other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
> separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
> enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
> down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
>

Fascinating, no really.

Maggie

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:34:36 AM2/10/22

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lol Next on this channel: Dave Smith' toe nail cutting routine!

Maggie

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:41:55 AM2/10/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:

Gary

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Feb 10, 2022, 5:19:06 AM2/10/22

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No kidding. I only do laundy when I accumulate a full load.
I will wash heavy things separately, like towels and a pair of jeans.
Other clothes all go in one washer - whites and darks - unless it's the
first time I'm washing something dark.

Warm water and no-scented soap.
Occasionally I'll add about 1/4 cup bleach after the washer starts just
for the nice smell.

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 5:30:54 AM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 05:19:59 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 2/9/2022 9:39 PM, Jeanne wrote:
>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 18:17:19 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
>>>> only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
>>>> underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
>>>> towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
>>>> her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
>>>> other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
>>>> separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
>>>> enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be
>>>> down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
>>>>
>>> On Monday, I do sheets.
>>
>> OMG, may we never become such regimented old farts.
>
>No kidding. I only do laundy when I accumulate a full load.

That's it.

Gary

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Feb 10, 2022, 6:15:30 AM2/10/22

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Dave Smith wrote:> provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.

Well Dave, you never should put damp anything in the hamper. Hang up to
dry before doing that.

I use my bath towels for about a week before switching to a new one.
I just hang one up to dry and reuse. They don't get dirty in that time.
All you're doing is drying off a clean body after a shower.

If you ever take a shower at Lucretia's condo, you can just drop the wet
towel on the floor and she'll take care of it, but only ONCE! lol

PS - Good morning, Lucretia! :)

Janet

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Feb 10, 2022, 8:25:09 AM2/10/22

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In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...

>
> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>

Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.

Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.

J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.

Janet UK

Gary

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Feb 10, 2022, 8:28:58 AM2/10/22

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On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>
> Janet UK

Is he a cold water surfer? I used to do that when I was one although I
only rinsed them off in the shower, never actually washed them.

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Feb 10, 2022, 9:30:31 AM2/10/22

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If I mixed my extra - large towels in with the regular stuff, it'd take
forever for everything to dry, so towels dry separately...

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Janet

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Feb 10, 2022, 9:37:07 AM2/10/22

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In article <jz8NJ.61036$SeK9...@fx97.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...

>
> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
> > In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
> >>
> >> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
> >> than me but I do two loads every other week.
> >>
> >
> > Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
> >
> > Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
> > bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
> >
> > J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
> >
> > Janet UK
>
> Wool is the only exception.

I include silk and fleece in the "wool" wash.

The rest will come out clean if put in
> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
> and colors.

We wear a lot of linen (flax) shirts. Not a modern fabric, but if
properly cared for it lasts a lifetime.

Some of my antique embroidered household linens have lasted several
lifetimes, well over a century old, still in daily use and perfect
condition,and will be inherited by our children.

> Why separate towels? What is special about them?

Our preference for top quality HUGE bath towels.Known in the trade as
bath sheets.

Plus the rowing towels. Plus hand-towels for two bathroom basins and a
bidet, changed every other day.Plus the towel footmats.

Janet UK

Gary

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Feb 10, 2022, 9:46:27 AM2/10/22

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Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>
> They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
> things that require less drying from things that require more.

I just like to wash the heavy things separately. Towels and pair of jeans.

I hang dry all my laundry inside. Makes a clutter for the day but all is
dry by the next morning to put away.

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 10, 2022, 11:51:02 AM2/10/22

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On 2/10/2022 9:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>>>
>>>> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
>>>> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
>>>
>>> Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
>>> bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
>>>
>>> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> Wool is the only exception. The rest will come out clean if put in
>> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
>> and colors.
>
> I have several gray t-shirts that used to be white, from being
> washed in mixed loads. Luckily, they're for working around the
> house, so I don't care.

I'd do them with the whites and bleach. I wear the same white sweat
socks and have white underwear, all in the same load.

>
>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>
> They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
> things that require less drying from things that require more.
>

Never noticed, they all come out dry.

Dave Smith

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Feb 10, 2022, 11:55:01 AM2/10/22

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That is my understanding, but I always wonder why they can't be
separated after washing and dried with the own. When I do a mixed load
and hang them on the line to dry I put the towels up first and run them
out. Faster drying things get hung up last. It is not that complicated
and saves me doing an extra load or two.

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:51 PM2/10/22

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Thanks, I needed to know that.

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:52 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 08:29:51 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>Is he a cold water surfer? I used to do that when I was one

That's even younger than when Janet's children start reading
Shakespeare!

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:54 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:23:13 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@devnull.com> wrote:

>On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>>>
>>>> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
>>>> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
>>>
>>> Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
>>> bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
>>>
>>> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> Wool is the only exception. The rest will come out clean if put in
>> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
>> and colors.
>
>I have several gray t-shirts that used to be white, from being
>washed in mixed loads. Luckily, they're for working around the
>house, so I don't care.

Phew!

>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>
>They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
>things that require less drying from things that require more.

Brilliant!

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:54 PM2/10/22

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I can imagine that you need extra large towels.

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:55 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:36:56 -0000, Janet <nob...@hame.cock> wrote:

>In article <jz8NJ.61036$SeK9...@fx97.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>

>> Wool is the only exception.
>
> I include silk and fleece in the "wool" wash.

Of course you do.

> The rest will come out clean if put in
>> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
>> and colors.
>
> We wear a lot of linen (flax) shirts. Not a modern fabric, but if
>properly cared for it lasts a lifetime.
>
> Some of my antique embroidered household linens have lasted several
>lifetimes, well over a century old, still in daily use and perfect
>condition,and will be inherited by our children.

They're already looking forward to it!

>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>
> Our preference for top quality HUGE bath towels.Known in the trade as
>bath sheets.
>
>Plus the rowing towels.

Ah yes, the rowing towels!

Plus hand-towels for two bathroom basins and a
>bidet, changed every other day.Plus the towel footmats.

I almost forgot about the towel footmats!

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:23:56 PM2/10/22

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This is so brilliant, there should be an award for this!

Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 12:47:00 PM2/10/22

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Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

Martin

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Kirsten

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Kirsten

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Kirsten

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Janet wrote:
> In article <jz8NJ.61036$SeK9...@fx97.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>

>> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>>> In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>>>
>>>> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
>>>> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
>>>
>>> Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
>>> bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
>>>
>>> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>>
>>> Janet UK
>>
>> Wool is the only exception.
>

> I include silk and fleece in the "wool" wash.
>

> The rest will come out clean if put in
>> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
>> and colors.
>

> We wear a lot of linen (flax) shirts. Not a modern fabric, but if
> properly cared for it lasts a lifetime.
>
> Some of my antique embroidered household linens have lasted several
> lifetimes, well over a century old, still in daily use and perfect
> condition,and will be inherited by our children.
>

>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>

> Our preference for top quality HUGE bath towels.Known in the trade as
> bath sheets.
>

> Plus the rowing towels. Plus hand-towels for two bathroom basins and a

> bidet, changed every other day.Plus the towel footmats.
>
>

> Janet UK

Kirsten

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Feb 10, 2022, 1:05:13 PM2/10/22

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Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>> In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>>
>>> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
>>> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>>>
>>
>>     Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
>>
>>     Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
>> bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
>>
>>    J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>
>>     Janet UK
>

> Wool is the only exception. The rest will come out clean if put in

> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics

> and colors. Why separate towels? What is special about them?

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 1:14:32 PM2/10/22

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Yup, I was afraid that after Dave "Pickleball" Smith and Janet UK, we
were now going to get laundry stories and tips from Michael. And here
we go.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 10, 2022, 1:30:20 PM2/10/22

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On 2/10/2022 1:14 PM, Thom wrote:
> Yup, I was afraid that after Dave "Pickleball" Smith and Janet UK, we
> were now going to get laundry stories and tips from Michael. And here
> we go.
>

I threw in the towel.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 10, 2022, 1:39:24 PM2/10/22

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On 2/9/2022 10:43 AM, Lenona wrote:
> For this person, it was less than you might expect, even with no babies or toddlers in the house.
>
> But, as "Frugal Zealot" (Amy Dacyczyn) once wrote, big spaces are often easier to keep clean than small spaces.
>
> https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212
>
What's the difference between Jilldoe and a washing machine?

The washing machine can only handle one load at a time.

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 2:42:25 PM2/10/22

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I hope you're aware that they dry slower!!!

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 10, 2022, 2:45:33 PM2/10/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:24:55 PM UTC-5, itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:44:21 AM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:
> > >
> > > https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/this-is-how-much-time-i-actually-spend-on-housework-in-a-week-232212
> > >
> > Damn, she must be bored as hell tracking all her cleaning and figuring
> > the hours she spends. Good grief, she even bored me reading this.
> >
> Well, I was simply curious enough to google how much time an average adult takes to keep a house neat and clean.
>
In case you haven't noticed that all would depend on the size of the house
and how much they are slobs.

(The rest of the dissertations was snipped.)

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 10, 2022, 2:50:01 PM2/10/22

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On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 8:23:23 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
> >

> > Why separate towels? What is special about them?
> >

> They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
> things that require less drying from things that require more.
>

> --
> Cindy Hamilton
>
That's true about towels taking longer to dry. Also towels are
lint givers and things like socks and blue jeans, etc. are lint takers.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Feb 10, 2022, 2:54:54 PM2/10/22

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On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 12:01:41 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew wrote:
>
> Not to mention, t-shirts and towels will be more likely to off-balance the
> washing machine, and that wears on it.
>

I cannot remember the last time my washing was off-balance because the
load was too heavy on one side.

Cindy Hamilton

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Feb 10, 2022, 2:56:13 PM2/10/22

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On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

> On 2/10/2022 9:23 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>>> On 2/10/2022 8:24 AM, Janet wrote:
>>>> In article <Yj%MJ.29900$Lbb6....@fx45.iad>, e...@snet.xxx says...
>>>>>
>>>>> OMG, I can't imagine 5 loads in a week. There are twice as many of you
>>>>> than me but I do two loads every other week.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Household of two, we easily do 5 loads a week.
>>>>
>>>> Separate loads for light colours, dark colours, wool, towels,
>>>> bedlinen. Occasional small load of extra-sweaty sportswear.
>>>>
>>>> J handwashes his wetsuit/wetgloves/wetboots.
>>>>
>>>> Janet UK
>>>
>>> Wool is the only exception. The rest will come out clean if put in
>>> together. Mixing light and dark I see no difference with modern fabrics
>>> and colors.
>>

>> I have several gray t-shirts that used to be white, from being
>> washed in mixed loads. Luckily, they're for working around the
>> house, so I don't care.
>
> I'd do them with the whites and bleach. I wear the same white sweat
> socks and have white underwear, all in the same load.

I don't bleach anything, except once in a while I run my washer
empty with bleach in the bleach dispenser and fabric softener
dispenser to freshen it up..

>>
>>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>>
>> They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
>> things that require less drying from things that require more.
>>
>

> Never noticed, they all come out dry.

Towels take 60 minutes. Sheets take 40 minutes. It's worth
saving 20 minutes worth of electricity to split things up.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Lenona

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:04:32 PM2/10/22

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Well, that goes without saying.

But on the one hand, there was nothing to suggest her family consisted of lazy slobs who won't pick up after themselves. At the same time, it's a big house. So her total of 19 hours a week just might turn out to be pretty close to the rate for other, different families.

At any rate, the implication was that UNLESS you have small children or truly uncaring adult slobs living with you, housekeeping just isn't as time-consuming as it used to be.

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:12:36 PM2/10/22

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Your life must be sheer bliss.

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:13:31 PM2/10/22

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I can tell you have too much time on your hands.

Lenona

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:19:28 PM2/10/22

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And there have been Americans who wanted to marry into royal families - and did so. Wallis Simpson, Grace Kelly, Meghan Markle...

It would STILL sound pretty silly for anyone who's old enough to drive to say "I plan to marry into a royal family," when the odds are so much against it. It's almost like saying "I plan to win the lottery and never work for a living."

Bottom line is, you need PERMISSION to marry, from the unicorn you're pursuing. So even saying "I plan to be a parent and full-time homemaker" is not reasonable unless you know for a fact that you're surrounded by singles who would be happy to support a stay-at-home parent. (Especially if you haven't even started dating yet.)

Also, when it comes to millennials in particular, how many have you ever met, or heard of, who didn't want children but who would also be WILLING to support a homemaking spouse who likely would get a lot more free time than the employed spouse?

I would think that would lead to resentment, eventually. The only case I can think of where it wouldn't, would be if the employed spouse has to do a lot of home entertaining as part of the job, so the other spouse would have to do a lot of cooking and planning.

Bryan Simmons

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:22:00 PM2/10/22

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On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:16:09 PM UTC-6, GM wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 8:17:26 PM UTC-6, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 5:26:11 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > My wife does 5 loads of laundry a week. She separates things and does
> > > only certain things together. On Mondays she does our pants, shorts
> > > underwear, socks, etc. Tuesdays she does the bedding. Wednesday she does
> > > towels, one load for us and one load for dog towels. On Friday she does
> > > her underwear and other delicates. Every thing is done in cold water so,
> > > other than the delicate load of dainties, don't know they are all done
> > > separately. That may be why I am not allowed to do laundry. We have
> > > enough towels and sheets for two weeks, so I don't know why can't be

> > > down every two weeks... provided damp towels don't ferment in the hamper.
> > >
> > On Monday, I do sheets. Towels are washed when I have a hamper full of
> > those. When they're used they are hung on a towel bar in the bathroom
> > until dry then into the hamper. I have enough panties that they are done
> > every three weeks and twice that many in bras.
> You should send those to SHELDON to do, he'd even spring for the Air Express shipping I'd bet...
>
________________________________
Ian had taken over the laundry duties, and often buried his
face in Ann's clothing, breathing in the complexities, the
fragrances of her body. He was careful to supply all the
toiletries, choosing only fragrance free, or scents that were
beautiful in their own right, the nicest being the cinnamon
buns. He often laughed to himself about how most folks
would think he was deviant, and he guessed he was in the
strictest sense, and many would add perverted, but the
only ones who knew were Winter and Ann, and Ann had
given Winter her panties to take to him.

When Julia noticed that there was only folding and putting
away, never washing or drying, he was sure she assumed
that one of the women was doing the wash. After Winter
had moved in, Ian had told Julia that she was his personal
assistant, and because Winter had her own bedroom, and
it was obviously used, why would she have thought anything
beyond that? Then Ann moved in. Weeks before, when Ann
had been introduced as Winter's girlfriend, Julia had been
friendly, and called Ann, "Seniorita." She played up her
Mexicanness when she was happy. It meant she liked you.
________________________________
>
> --
> GM

--Bryan

Lucretia Borgia

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:24:24 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:04:26 -0800 (PST), Lenona <leno...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Of course it takes less time than when I first was married. No
dishwasher, that was a time consuming, monotonous task. No clothes
washer, although I did like many others, have a spin dryer. Kids wore
cloth diapers which had to be boiled (to stop them getting bad diaper
rash) Much clothing required ironing to look half way decent...etc
etc. Glad it has changed for the better.

Ed Pawlowski

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Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:54:58 PM2/10/22

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Uhm Yes. Ghe Ghe Ghe :)))))))))))

bruce bowser

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:55:48 PM2/10/22

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On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 3:04:32 PM UTC-5, Lenona wrote:
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 2:45:33 PM UTC-5, itsjoannotjoann wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 11:56:38 PM UTC-6, Lenona wrote:
>
> > > Well, I was simply curious enough to google how much time an average adult takes to keep a house neat and clean.
> > >
> > In case you haven't noticed that all would depend on the size of the house
> > and how much they are slobs.
> Well, that goes without saying.

I wonder how much of a slob a person can be.

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:56:23 PM2/10/22

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Sheldon Martin

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:58:50 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 15:52:06 -0500, Thom <Br...@null.invalid> wrote:

>Thom wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 19:56:05 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hami...@devnull.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-02-10, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'd do them with the whites and bleach. I wear the same white sweat
>>>> socks and have white underwear, all in the same load.
>>>
>>> I don't bleach anything, except once in a while I run my washer
>>> empty with bleach in the bleach dispenser and fabric softener
>>> dispenser to freshen it up..
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why separate towels? What is special about them?
>>>>>
>>>>> They require a lot more drying. It's more efficient to separate
>>>>> things that require less drying from things that require more.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Never noticed, they all come out dry.
>>>
>>> Towels take 60 minutes. Sheets take 40 minutes. It's worth
>>> saving 20 minutes worth of electricity to split things up.
>>
>> I can tell you have too much time on your hands.
>>

>We Dutch have a saying,

Suck out the crotch shit stains, that's what yoose Dutch do best.

Thom

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Feb 10, 2022, 3:59:53 PM2/10/22

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:19:48 PM2/10/22

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Didn't she write "who didn't want children"?

Dave Smith

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:22:48 PM2/10/22

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I understand the drying time issue. I wonder why they cannot be washed
together and then separated for drying, and what the heck difference
does it make if they are being air dried.

Kevin

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:24:10 PM2/10/22

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Kevin

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Kevin

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Dave Smith

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:26:03 PM2/10/22

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On 2022-02-10 3:25 p.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> How does that save? Toss it all together for 60 minutes and save the 40
> of a separate load.
> I never paid attention to the actual time. Sensor does that for me and
> dings when done. I have it set for "normal" dry, whatever that is.

Normal is the setting that people use 95% of the time when they set
their dryer that has 20 different settings.

Kevin

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 16:01:20 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

Ed Pawlowski

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:26:29 PM2/10/22

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Yes, I misunderstood it.

Kevin

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:26:34 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 12:55:42 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser

Kevin

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Sherrod

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Feb 10, 2022, 4:27:13 PM2/10/22

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On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 16:22:37 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

I always used to forget to take the washing out of the washing
machine. After three days, I'd just run it all again, hoping to be
more on the ball after that cycle. If not, run again.