Butter Chicken

[Dave Smith]

I always wanted to try butter chicken. I sort of had some tonight.
Last week I picked up a two pack of butter chicken sauce at Costco.
Today I picked up a couple chicken breasts, cubed the meat, sauteed it
in butter and then added the sauce and simmered for 5 minutes. I cooked
some Basmati rice and steamed beans. Simple and delicious. I may look up
a proper recipe and make it from scratch.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I can't say that I've ever heard of 'butter chicken.'

[Hank Rogers]

I haven't heard of it either, I wonder what is in that butter sauce.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Nor have I and I'm not sure I'd like it but would try it, easy on the
chili powder.
https://cafedelites.com/butter-chicken/

For the sauce:
2 tablespoons olive oil
2 tablespoons ghee (or 1 tbs butter + 1 tbs oil)
1 large onion, sliced or chopped
1 1/2 tablespoons garlic, minced
1 tablespoon ginger, minced or finely grated
1 1/2 teaspoons ground cumin
1 1/2 teaspoons garam masala
1 teaspoon ground coriander
14 oz (400 g) crushed tomatoes
1 teaspoon red chili powder (adjust to your taste preference)
1 1/4 teaspoons salt (or to taste)
1 cup of heavy or thickened cream (or evaporated milk to save calories)
1 tablespoon sugar
1/2 teaspoon kasoori methi (or dried fenugreek leaves)

[Dave Smith]

It may well be better to do it from scratch, but this stuff was really
good, and it is pretty simple. Sautee the chicken and then pour on some
sauce and simmer it. Too easy.

[U.S. Janet B.]

Those recipes sound and look really tasty. I've copied the site.
Wish I had a live in cook
Janet US

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 9:24:49 PM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Nor have I and I'm not sure I'd like it but would try it, easy on the
> chili powder.
> https://cafedelites.com/butter-chicken/
>
> For the sauce:
> 2 tablespoons olive oil
> 2 tablespoons ghee (or 1 tbs butter + 1 tbs oil)
> 1 large onion, sliced or chopped
> 1 1/2 tablespoons garlic, minced
> 1 tablespoon ginger, minced or finely grated
> 1 1/2 teaspoons ground cumin
> 1 1/2 teaspoons garam masala
> 1 teaspoon ground coriander
> 14 oz (400 g) crushed tomatoes
> 1 teaspoon red chili powder (adjust to your taste preference)
> 1 1/4 teaspoons salt (or to taste)
> 1 cup of heavy or thickened cream (or evaporated milk to save calories)
> 1 tablespoon sugar
> 1/2 teaspoon kasoori methi (or dried fenugreek leaves)
>

You go first, I'm going to pass though, but eagerly await your verdict.

[Doris Night]

I've had that butter chicken from Costco. You are right - it's very
tasty. When I made it, in addition to the cut-up chicken I also added
a red pepper and some onion.

I can't believe the number of posters here that have never heard of
butter chicken. It is an Indian dish, and is practically the national
dish of England.

Doris

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:20:41 AM UTC-5, Doris Night wrote:
>
> I can't believe the number of posters here that have never heard of
> butter chicken. It is an Indian dish, and is practically the national
> dish of England.
>
> Doris
>

I can't believe John hasn't shown up telling us about it since his boarders
are Indian. When I get to England I'll expect to see it on every table.

[S Viemeister]

It may be a close second, but chicken tikka is probably in top place.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I have a similar recipe, although it also has cardamom.

The kasoori methi really "makes" the dish, though. I can sometimes
find them at my regular grocery store.

Cindy Hamilton

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> On 7/20/2020 9:50 PM, Hank Rogers wrote:
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >> On Monday, July 20, 2020 at 6:09:25 PM UTC-5, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>

> >>> I always wanted to try butter chicken. I sort of had some tonight.

Interesting. Sounds a bit "busy" to be simply named "butter
chicken."

[Gary]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote:
> Those recipes sound and look really tasty. I've copied the site.
> Wish I had a live in cook

You do! ;)

[Cindy Hamilton]

Perhaps you would prefer its Hindi name: Murgh Makhani

Cindy Hamilton

[U.S. Janet B.]

You can buy jars of butter chicken or tikka masala to use as simmering
sauces.
Janet US

[Dave Smith]

That seemed like the way to go for me. I tried ordering it from a local
restaurant recently, but their covid take out menu had been pared down.
I didn't want to make it from scratch because I had never had it before
and had no idea what it was supposed to taste like. My friend is a
retired airline pilot who had had it in many places during his career
and he recommended the stuff sold at Costco. It turned out to be
delicious.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I'll take your word for it.

[Hank Rogers]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:20:41 AM UTC-5, Doris Night wrote:
>>
>> I can't believe the number of posters here that have never heard of
>> butter chicken. It is an Indian dish, and is practically the national
>> dish of England.
>>
>> Doris
>>
> I can't believe John hasn't shown up telling us about it since his boarders
> are Indian.

His boarders are genuine india indians ... not english indians.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 12:48:35 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:

>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > I can't believe John hasn't shown up telling us about it since his boarders
> > are Indian.
>

> His boarders are genuine india indians ... not english Indians.
>
Yes, brown Indians and not the red ones that are native here.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I guess it depends where you live. Indian restaurants are a rarity
where I lived in Philadelphia, New England, Florida. I can tell you
where one is. A Google search does show some though. Italian?
Chinese? Polish? Yes, hundreds come to mind, but still only that one
small Indian.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

There is one Indian restaurant here that I know of and there could be more.
The one that I know of I ate at about 20 years ago and it was strictly
vegetarian. It was ok but I've not been tempted to go back in all these
years.

[Cindy Hamilton]

When I lived near Toledo, OH, a little more than 20 years ago, there were
two Indian restaurants. Toledo isn't very large or very cosmopolitan.
One of them was very good; the other was a little meh.

Spring Arbor, MI (population 2881) has an Indian restaurant.

It really is a very popular cuisine.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

I've never seen a Polish restaurant. Polish cuisine is probably
derived from Russian cuisine and I've never seen a Russian restaurant
either.

Italian, Chinese, Indian? Everywhere.

[Bruce]

Did you kick a dog after eating there?

[bruce2...@gmail.com]

> butter chicken...

Their all just a little silly. They've all heard of it, just under a different name called Chicken Kiev (minus the ham, of course).

[Ed Pawlowski]

Most of the Slavic cuisines are similar. As for restaurants, it depends
on immigration and migration. There were large sections of Polish in
Philadelphia, New York, and a few pockets in New England.

I moved from Philadelphia to Connecticut, 250 miles, and could not find
many of the things we grew up with. Now I'm 1100 miles south of Philly
but can find many of them same brands just around the corner. Why?
Florida is loaded with people moving from the north and this area has a
lot from the Philly/NY area so the brands are available.

People tended to stay with others from the old country. Where my
grandparents lived I could stand out on the very wide street and see the
Polish, Irish, German Catholic Churches. They were all built in the
1890 to 1910 period and within a couple of blocks of each other. Times
have changed but there were no Chinese restaurants there in the past.
Plenty of kielbasa and pirogies though.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I've been to several Polish restaurants. A lot of Poles immigrated to the
metro Detroit area.

There's one Russian restaurant about 30 miles from here, but I've never
been to it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

No, they're talking about an Indian dish whose name in Hindi is
Murgh Makhani

Cindy Hamilton

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

I don't have a dog and why would I want to kick a dog? But we do have a ton
of vegetarian restaurants here all run by under 35-year-olds trying their
best to make their dishes taste hearty and meaty.

The food was ok and we went with an Indian guy from work. He was/is a
vegetarian and of course he thought it was great.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 12:39:12 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 1:58:13 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 11:21:15 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >There is one Indian restaurant here that I know of and there could be more.
>> >The one that I know of I ate at about 20 years ago and it was strictly
>> >vegetarian. It was ok but I've not been tempted to go back in all these
>> >years.
>>
>> Did you kick a dog after eating there?
>>
>I don't have a dog and why would I want to kick a dog?

Because you missed out on animal suffering during dinner.

[Dave Smith]

When we used to visit my son in Montreal we always went at least once to
a vegetarian Indian restaurant. My wife has issues with too many
legumes but I loved it. Good vegetarian food like that makes me wonder
why so many vegetarians go for faux meats. They have strange concoctions
that they claim tastes just like burgers, wieners, steaks etc.

[Bruce]

Maybe because meat tastes good? Maybe they miss meat? Maybe they want
to cook something traditional and need to replace the meat component?
Come on, you understand that. You're not deeply retarded. Just need to
try a bit harder!

[John Kuthe]

Oh, even though I'm now a Vegetarian I'd not refuse a hunk of BBQ someone cooked as that would be rude. And the BBQ would be delicious!

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

It was lunch and I suffered enough through that meatless meal, no need
to abuse a poor dog.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 3:35:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>

Then they should jump ship and do what they really want to do instead of
trying to get away with faking it. If meat wasn't so tasty then they'd
not struggle to make their meals taste as if it was actually meat.

E A T M E A T

[Hank Rogers]

Kicking a dod don't do it for me anyway. I prefer to piss on a
dutchman instead.

[Bruce]

Don't drag everybody down to your lack of standards, please.

[Dave Smith]

I am pretty sure that Brucie knew that. He just took the opportunity of
trying to amuse himself by pretending that I was the one who was being
obtuse instead of him.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

[Leo]

On 2020 Jul 21, , Bruce wrote
(in article<ldhehf56g9v9vbuh2...@4ax.com>):

> Because you missed out on animal suffering during dinner.

You do realize that, unlike Holland, we don’t have our meals slaughtered
table side for our enjoyment and served with a tulip. You gotta get over your
original sin and move on.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 Bruce wrote:

>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 wrote:
>>
>> >I don't have a dog and why would I want to kick a dog?
>>
>> Because you missed out on animal suffering during dinner.
>>
>It was lunch and I suffered enough through that meatless meal, no need
>to abuse a poor dog.

I see no reason why one can't eat both meat and vegetables, I do at
most every meal... sometimes together, sometimes seperately. In my
experience anyone who claims they're a strict vegetarian is a LIAR! No
vegetables contain all the necessary amino acids to support human
life.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 15:18:45 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

Where we lived on Lung Guyland our next door neighbors were
Vietnamese. They claimed to be vegetarian. They were always admiring
our garden but they didn't have one. They loved our concord grape
vine and I'd give them plenty. One day we spotted their car about 2-3
miles away in a big supermarket parking lot and there they were with
their two kids all eating packages of Oscar Meyer bologna... to my
knowledge Oscar Meyer doesn't make Tofu Bologna.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:56:48 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>

wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 itsjoannotjoann wrote:
>>On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 wrote:
>>>
>>> >I don't have a dog and why would I want to kick a dog?
>>>
>>> Because you missed out on animal suffering during dinner.
>>>
>>It was lunch and I suffered enough through that meatless meal, no need
>>to abuse a poor dog.
>
>I see no reason why one can't eat both meat and vegetables, I do at
>most every meal... sometimes together, sometimes seperately. In my
>experience anyone who claims they're a strict vegetarian is a LIAR! No
>vegetables contain all the necessary amino acids to support human
>life.

Lol, uninformed, uneducated, dumb man.

[Cindy Hamilton]

And again he confuses vegetarian and vegan.

Not just that, but he completely blew by the fact that itsjoannotjoann was
at a vegetarian restaurant. I don't quite understand why she "suffered",
but a nutritionally complete vegetarian meal is certainly possible.
ISTR it was an Indian restaurant. I'd be all over the saag paneer or
some kind of dal.

Cindy Hamilton

[Sheldon Martin]

There is no such thing as a vegetarian unless you're a cow a Canada
goose, or a giraffe... and a friggin' moron! You're not a cow, a
goose, or a giraffe... that leaves friggin' MORON!

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-22 1:07 p.m., Sheldon Martin wrote:

> Where we lived on Lung Guyland our next door neighbors were
> Vietnamese. They claimed to be vegetarian. They were always admiring
> our garden but they didn't have one. They loved our concord grape
> vine and I'd give them plenty. One day we spotted their car about 2-3
> miles away in a big supermarket parking lot and there they were with
> their two kids all eating packages of Oscar Meyer bologna... to my
> knowledge Oscar Meyer doesn't make Tofu Bologna.
>

They sound like the Baptists who go out of town to buy alcohol.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 3:36:41 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:56:48 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >I see no reason why one can't eat both meat and vegetables, I do at
>> >most every meal... sometimes together, sometimes seperately. In my
>> >experience anyone who claims they're a strict vegetarian is a LIAR! No
>> >vegetables contain all the necessary amino acids to support human
>> >life.
>>
>> Lol, uninformed, uneducated, dumb man.
>
>And again he confuses vegetarian and vegan.

Yes, that distinction seems to be a problem for some.

>Not just that, but he completely blew by the fact that itsjoannotjoann was
>at a vegetarian restaurant. I don't quite understand why she "suffered",
>but a nutritionally complete vegetarian meal is certainly possible.
>ISTR it was an Indian restaurant. I'd be all over the saag paneer or
>some kind of dal.

Yes, I don't think a vegetarian diet is hard to make healthy. Vegan
probably requires special attention to certain things, but
vegetarian's not hard.

[Hank Rogers]

Yoose a fine man Popeye.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 16:24:16 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>

Hiccup!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 12:07:08 PM UTC-5, Sheldon wrote:
>
> Where we lived on Lung Guyland our next door neighbors were
> Vietnamese. They claimed to be vegetarian. They were always admiring
> our garden but they didn't have one. They loved our concord grape
> vine and I'd give them plenty. One day we spotted their car about 2-3
> miles away in a big supermarket parking lot and there they were with
> their two kids all eating packages of Oscar Meyer bologna... to my
> knowledge Oscar Meyer doesn't make Tofu Bologna.
>

Tooooooo funny!!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 3:08:04 PM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> Not just that, but he completely blew by the fact that itsjoannotjoann was
> at a vegetarian restaurant. I don't quite understand why she "suffered",
> but a nutritionally complete vegetarian meal is certainly possible.
> ISTR it was an Indian restaurant. I'd be all over the saag paneer or
> some kind of dal.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

The food wasn't bad, just not satisfying. If I remember correctly a lot
of the dishes were baby food consistency.

[Dave Smith]

The food at the vegetarian Indian place we used to go to in Montreal was
great. There was dahl, a lentil dish, some vegetables, rice and very
tasty sauces and it included dessert. I really enjoyed it. The prices
could not be beat. Just for a time and price perspective, this was 10-15
years ago and the price was always $4.95. That was a bargain. No wonder
the student son ate there.

[Jean B.]

S Viemeister wrote:
> On 21/07/2020 06:20, Doris Night wrote:

>> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:10:11 -0400, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I always wanted to try butter chicken. I sort of had some tonight.
>>> Last week I picked up a two pack of butter chicken sauce at Costco.
>>> Today I picked up a couple chicken breasts, cubed the meat, sauteed it
>>> in butter and then added the sauce and simmered for 5 minutes. I cooked
>>> some Basmati rice and steamed beans. Simple and delicious. I may look up
>>> a proper recipe and make it from scratch.
>>
>> I've had that butter chicken from Costco. You are right - it's very
>> tasty. When I made it, in addition to the cut-up chicken I also added
>> a red pepper and some onion.
>>
>> I can't believe the number of posters here that have never heard of

>> butter chicken. It is an Indian dish, and is practically the national
>> dish of England.
>>
> It may be a close second, but chicken tikka is probably in top place.

I was going to say that too. The recipes are often extremely similar.

[Ophelia]

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[Bruce]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 09:38:45 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Generally speaking, vegetarians won't eat meat or fish, but will eat
dairy products and eggs. Vegans also don't eat those, which makes
their lifestyle harder to me.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:icjihfl1hlhdj3g0c...@4ax.com...

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Thanks! I think I could almost call myself a vegetarian then:)

I make a lot of meaty stuff for D. but I very rarely eat any:)

[Bruce]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:20:08 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

Don't you like meat or fish? Or did you ever?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:2llihfds05larod7n...@4ax.com...

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Yes I did. I grew up with it. It is only since I got older I have gone
off it.

[Ophelia]

"Ophelia" wrote in message news:hnt3bi...@mid.individual.net...

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Ooops I still like fish:))

[Bruce]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:26:35 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Me too :)

[Cindy Hamilton]

Yep, that's Indian food. At least Indian dishes with meat usually
have some chunks in them.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

When I lived in Philly I used to go to a kosher vegetarian restaurant.
It was another step but not too difficult if already vegetarian. It was
really a great place with impeccable service. The waiters were all
older men that worked there for years.

Unfortunately, the building and name still exist but that is all. Used
to be the only beverage was ginger ale and iced tea. Now it is a full
bar and you can get cheeseburgers. No going back. No more blintzes.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 10:25:05 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

a half dozen or less bites of meat and I am done. I love dishes that
have been flavored with meat like soups, casseroles and the like.
Janet US

[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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[Ophelia]

"U.S. Janet B." wrote in message
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Same here:))

[jmcquown]

On 7/21/2020 6:18 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 3:35:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

>>
>> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:30:49 -0400, Dave Smith
>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Good vegetarian food like that makes me wonder
>>> why so many vegetarians go for faux meats. They have strange concoctions
>>> that they claim tastes just like burgers, wieners, steaks etc.
>>
>> Maybe because meat tastes good? Maybe they miss meat? Maybe they want
>> to cook something traditional and need to replace the meat component?
>> Come on, you understand that. You're not deeply retarded. Just need to
>> try a bit harder!
>>
> Then they should jump ship and do what they really want to do instead of
> trying to get away with faking it. If meat wasn't so tasty then they'd
> not struggle to make their meals taste as if it was actually meat.
>
> E A T M E A T
>

I saw an ad on TV the other day for plant-based (vegan) dog food. I
didn't pay attention to the brand but apparently there are a few of them
out there. Fer cryin' out loud! People can choose to be vegan if they
want but why inflict a vegan diet on your poor dog? Dogs are obligate
carnivores. I wonder what chemicals they have to add to make it meet (I
almost typed "meat"!) a dog's dietary needs.

Same thing with those faux burgers, etc. Check the ingredients lists.
Loaded with chemicals to make them taste like meat. Doesn't sound at
all healthful.

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

Healhful? Iz dat yoose Popeye?

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 13:36:16 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Funny how meat eaters suddenly care about the ingredients of faux
meat, whereas they have no problem stuffing themselves with all kinds
of crap on a daily basis :)

[Sheldon Martin]

Meat eaters care as much as veggies about ingredients, maybe even more
so... I check ingredients on all packaged foods and I never buy
packaged salads because they are made of old contaminated veggies,
those are the ones the tractors rolled over and barely rinced in
filothy water, that I don't want, I never buy those cello bags of
salad stuff and I would never buy a restaurant salad because those are
made from cello bag crap too only more poorly handled. I prepare all
our salads from whole fresh vegetables, I have no problem preparing
produce... and during growing season most is from our own garden...
right now we are enjoying Krispy Kirbys up the Kazoo... no peeling
needed. Picked about fifty today, gave half to our neighbor who
maintans our tractors and does other heavy jobs for us like removing
dead trees and cementing in leaning fence posts. We don't use our
barn so we let him use it to store his haying equipment and his hay
bales.

[jmcquown]

(mind if I step in to reply to Bruce, Sheldon?) Meat eaters usually care
about the quality of the meat. There's a grading system. 'Choice' is
most frequently seen in supermarkets. 'Select' isn't so good. 'Prime' is
of course the most expensive. Meat eaters certainly do discuss the
differences about the grades and the different cuts.

Over the years we've discussed at length things like injecting saline to
plump up turkeys and chicken and pork chops. We've discussed brining.
Meat injected with antibiotics and all sorts of things. We'd really
rather not have all that crap in the meat we buy.

> I check ingredients on all packaged foods and I never buy
> packaged salads because they are made of old contaminated veggies,

I always thought bagged salads/greens were a bad idea.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:39:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 04:53:39 +1000, Bruce <br...@null.null> wrote:
>
>>Funny how meat eaters suddenly care about the ingredients of faux
>>meat, whereas they have no problem stuffing themselves with all kinds
>>of crap on a daily basis :)
>
>Meat eaters care as much as veggies about ingredients, maybe even more
>so... I check ingredients on all packaged foods and I never buy
>packaged salads because they are made of old contaminated veggies,
>those are the ones the tractors rolled over and barely rinced in
>filothy water

How are they listed in the ingredient list? "Contains 99% old
contaminated veggies (rolled over by tractor and barely rinsed in
filthy water)"?

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:03:00 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Most meat eaters who'd have one good look in a chicken factory, would
never buy that product again. Not just because they might feel sorry
for the birds, but they wouldn't want to put that product in their
mouth anymore.

>> I check ingredients on all packaged foods and I never buy
>> packaged salads because they are made of old contaminated veggies,
>
>I always thought bagged salads/greens were a bad idea.

At least the packaging is see-through so WYSIWYG.

[Hank Rogers]

< *SNIFF* >

[jmcquown]

On 7/21/2020 1:20 AM, Doris Night wrote:

> On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 19:10:11 -0400, Dave Smith
> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> I always wanted to try butter chicken. I sort of had some tonight.
>> Last week I picked up a two pack of butter chicken sauce at Costco.
>> Today I picked up a couple chicken breasts, cubed the meat, sauteed it
>> in butter and then added the sauce and simmered for 5 minutes. I cooked
>> some Basmati rice and steamed beans. Simple and delicious. I may look up
>> a proper recipe and make it from scratch.
>
> I've had that butter chicken from Costco. You are right - it's very
> tasty. When I made it, in addition to the cut-up chicken I also added
> a red pepper and some onion.
>
> I can't believe the number of posters here that have never heard of
> butter chicken. It is an Indian dish, and is practically the national
> dish of England.
>

> Doris
>
I don't know how many people would be expected to know this if they
never heard of it and don't frequent Indian owned restaurants.

I just checked online. There IS an Indian restaurant in Beaufort. The
name of the restaurant is "Naan Appetit". Clever. A recent review
mentions their Butter Chicken:

"So in our current Covid-19 plagued earth this place was a nice oasis of
Indian food. I walked in and waited at the front for probably 2 minutes
before anyone walked out of kitchen. I would have been worried but my
food was sitting on the counter. I paid without contact beyond passing
my credit card and was then on my way home with fresh Indian food. I
ordered the paneer butter masala and butter chicken as entrees. To chase
it down we ordered buttered naan, armitsari kulcha, and another naan
that was stuffed with lamb. The butter chicken was absurdly good. It was
a bit sweeter than normal but in a very good way. This may have been
best butter chicken I've ever had (although might be because I've been
sheltered in place and haven't eaten out in awhile). The paneer butter
masala was a little too sweet for me, but my wife loved it. The butter
naan was okay. The naan that was stuffed with lamb wasn't better than
regular naan. The armitsari kulcha was delicious. The reason I didn't
give more stars was because my order was taken down wrong and I wasn't
given a rice and a naan. Maybe that's my fault for not checking but was
frustrating once I realized it when I got home. The food was 4 stars. I
will order out again. I'd like to try the buffet some time."

So... Indian food and Butter Chicken is available in my area. I'd still
never heard of it before this.

Jill

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:39:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
wrote:

snip

>
>Meat eaters care as much as veggies about ingredients, maybe even more
>so... I check ingredients on all packaged foods and I never buy
>packaged salads because they are made of old contaminated veggies,
>those are the ones the tractors rolled over and barely rinced in
>filothy water, that I don't want, I never buy those cello bags of
>salad stuff and I would never buy a restaurant salad because those are
>made from cello bag crap too only more poorly handled. I prepare all
>our salads from whole fresh vegetables, I have no problem preparing
>produce... and during growing season most is from our own garden...
>right now we are enjoying Krispy Kirbys up the Kazoo... no peeling
>needed. Picked about fifty today, gave half to our neighbor who
>maintans our tractors and does other heavy jobs for us like removing
>dead trees and cementing in leaning fence posts. We don't use our
>barn so we let him use it to store his haying equipment and his hay
>bales.

I'm not clear on this . . . which orifice is the kazoo?
Janet US

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 15:47:37 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>
wrote:

I think that's his ear.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 4:47:45 PM UTC-5, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 16:39:11 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> >right now we are enjoying Krispy Kirbys up the Kazoo.
>

> I'm not clear on this . . . which orifice is the kazoo?
> Janet US
>

I always thought that was 'wazoo.' Are some folks blessed/cursed with a
kazoo?

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:34:51 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

snip

>
>So... Indian food and Butter Chicken is available in my area. I'd still
>never heard of it before this.
>
>Jill

Well Gee, Jill. I've heard of it way out here in the wilds of the
West. Keep Up Girl ;)
'Couse, my familiarity is only from jarred products. I like Tikka
Masala a bit better, although both are very similar.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

On 7/24/2020 6:52 PM, U.S. Janet B. wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 17:34:51 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> snip
>>
>> So... Indian food and Butter Chicken is available in my area. I'd still
>> never heard of it before this.
>>
>> Jill
>
> Well Gee, Jill. I've heard of it way out here in the wilds of the
> West. Keep Up Girl ;)

Indian food isn't really something I think about. I had to Google to
find out there's an Indian restaurant. Not something I'd go looking for.

> 'Couse, my familiarity is only from jarred products. I like Tikka
> Masala a bit better, although both are very similar.
> Janet US
>

I'm glad you can find the ingredients you want. :)

Jill

[Hank Rogers]

The old ladies cooter.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 3:31:30 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 13:07:59 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 3:36:41 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

> >> On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 12:56:48 -0400, Sheldon Martin <penm...@aol.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I see no reason why one can't eat both meat and vegetables, I do at
> >> >most every meal... sometimes together, sometimes seperately. In my
> >> >experience anyone who claims they're a strict vegetarian is a LIAR! No
> >> >vegetables contain all the necessary amino acids to support human
> >> >life.
> >>
> >> Lol, uninformed, uneducated, dumb man.
> >
> >And again he confuses vegetarian and vegan.
>
> Yes, that distinction seems to be a problem for some.
>
> >Not just that, but he completely blew by the fact that itsjoannotjoann was
> >at a vegetarian restaurant. I don't quite understand why she "suffered",
> >but a nutritionally complete vegetarian meal is certainly possible.
> >ISTR it was an Indian restaurant. I'd be all over the saag paneer or
> >some kind of dal.
>
> Yes, I don't think a vegetarian diet is hard to make healthy. Vegan
> probably requires special attention to certain things, but
> vegetarian's not hard.

The only issue with amino acids for vegans is that legumes are deficient in some, and grains are deficient in others, but if you eat both beans and whole grains, you'll get plenty of all of them. Eating animal products is mostly about pleasure.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

On Friday, July 24, 2020 at 12:36:21 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/21/2020 6:18 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 21, 2020 at 3:35:03 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 21 Jul 2020 16:30:49 -0400, Dave Smith
> >> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> Good vegetarian food like that makes me wonder
> >>> why so many vegetarians go for faux meats. They have strange concoctions
> >>> that they claim tastes just like burgers, wieners, steaks etc.
> >>
> >> Maybe because meat tastes good? Maybe they miss meat? Maybe they want
> >> to cook something traditional and need to replace the meat component?
> >> Come on, you understand that. You're not deeply retarded. Just need to
> >> try a bit harder!
> >>
> > Then they should jump ship and do what they really want to do instead of
> > trying to get away with faking it. If meat wasn't so tasty then they'd
> > not struggle to make their meals taste as if it was actually meat.
> >
> > E A T M E A T
> >
> I saw an ad on TV the other day for plant-based (vegan) dog food. I
> didn't pay attention to the brand but apparently there are a few of them
> out there. Fer cryin' out loud! People can choose to be vegan if they
> want but why inflict a vegan diet on your poor dog? Dogs are obligate
> carnivores.
>

Cats are obligate carnivores. Dogs are not obligate carnivores. Before you use big words, you should know what you're talking about.
>
> Jill

--Bryan

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, July 25, 2020 at 12:41:35 PM UTC-5, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
> The only issue with amino acids for vegans is that legumes are deficient in some, and grains are deficient in others, but if you eat both beans and whole grains, you'll get plenty of all of them. Eating animal products is mostly about pleasure.
>
> --Bryan
>

But you get some great vitamins and minerals from eating meat, too.

[Bruce]

A little case of whoosh?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Nope.