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Brian Christiansen

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Jul 23, 2006, 8:21:51 PM7/23/06
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I don't know how many people here are MASH fans, but there was an episode
that is described thusly in a database that I downloaded several years ago
that is described thusly: A clumsy foot soldier (Ed Begley, Jr.) finds the
quickest way to the crew's heart, boosting morale at the war weary 4077th by
cooking gourmet delights. I think if the MASH fans would recognize the
episode from just this much description, and a longer description would not
help much if you are not.

Well, anyway, in the last of scene of that episode, Kilnger has
everyone try a dish that he made (I didn't realize that Klinger was a chef).
Hawkeye tried it and asked "what is this, a mercy meal from Conway (Begley's
character)". Klinger said the sauce is a recipe from Conway, but that he had
to improvise on the meat, and that it was "goat ala king". The final shot,
before the credits started rolling, was one where everyone looked like they
were about to run outside and spew chunks all over the Korean countryside.

I do not know from personal experience, but I have been told that
goat's meat is a tasty, mildly flavored meat (the words "tastes like
chicken" were not used, but that is kinda what I thought of) that certainly
should not invoke that sort of reaction. It also seems that at least
Colonel Potter would have had goat's meat at some point in his life.

So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?


Brian Christiansen


Boron Elgar

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Jul 23, 2006, 8:30:21 PM7/23/06
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:21:51 GMT, "Brian Christiansen"
<brian_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote:

e.
>
> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>
>
> Brian Christiansen
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I have had goat meat in Jamaican curries. It reminded me of lamb.

Boron

dkw1...@yahoo.com

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Jul 23, 2006, 8:41:36 PM7/23/06
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Brian, I used to raise dairy goats and gave the male kids away to a
friend to be eaten. I gave him two one time and he gave me some
hamburger made from them. He used the goat meat and a little beef or
pork fat, I don't remember which. Anyway, I became brave and fried up
the burgers. They cooked very much like the really lean hamburger
because there was not much fat. This fact alone might mean they are
healthier. With mustard and whatever else I put on them and on a bun, I
could not tell they tasted any different from hamburger. Chevon, its
called. Actually I have had goat also in Greek wraps...giros and again
it was quite spicy, but tasted just fine. I don't like the taste of
bear, moose, elk, deer or any other wild animal I've had with the
exception of quail breast which does taste like white-meat chicken to
me. For one thing, if you eat the meat with a lot of spices, it all
tends to taste alike, sort of like turkey franks vs. pork vs. all-beef
which to me with the garlic, etc. all tastes pretty much alike.

Goats are delightful, useful animals. I raised them for many years,
used a cream separator to make nonfat milk which I drank and gave the
cream to my barn cats and dog which had beautiful coats. Wish I could
keep them again, but like cows, once they start milking, you can't do
much and need to milk them 2X a day no matter what. dkw

Mark Thorson

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Jul 23, 2006, 9:24:45 PM7/23/06
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Brian Christiansen wrote:
>
> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?

One of the peak food experiences of my life
was goat jerky. I was only 10 years old
on Kauai and my grandaunt's husband was
dying of brain cancer. Before he got
so sick, he had made some goat jerky
from feral goats he had shot. They are
quite destructive to the native flora
and fauna, so shooting goats on Kauai
is a good thing. If you could wipe out
the entire goat population of Kauai,
you'd be a hero.

This jerky was unlike any other jerky
I've ever had. It was not dense or tough
at all. It was delicate, almost like
the texture of the filo parts of baklava.

Of course, nowadays they grow high-quality
ganja in the back country areas of Kauai,
so you would be risking getting shot
yourself by tramping around in those regions
looking for goats.

damamasan

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Jul 24, 2006, 2:46:15 AM7/24/06
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Hi Brian,

I had it once and it was delicious, it reminded me of a very succulent
and slow cooked pork roast. I was unaware it was goat and was
surprised when i was informed by our hospitable farm folk neighbors.
They asked if I wanted some goat meat to take home and I said that
would be wonderful! The farmer went out to the barn, to a freezer I
thought and then proceeded to rope an old goat that he intended to
slaughter for us... he said we could have all the meat from it. I
looked at the poor goats big sweet eyes and said " could I have the
whole goat , alive.. please?" It went home with us that night and
lived a happy spoiled life. If you dont get aquainted with one, I
would have to say a goats meat is quite a treat. Marinated and slow
cooked as you would any roast. ( :

Old Mother Ashby

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Jul 24, 2006, 2:57:09 AM7/24/06
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Brian Christiansen wrote:
> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>
>
> Brian Christiansen
>
>
It tastes like - goat's meat. Fairly mild, not as gamey as venison or
kangaroo. Quite frankly I can take it or leave it, but I suppose it
depends on how it's cooked. The last time was in a curry, and before
that I've had it braised in the Greek style.

Christine

rtk

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Jul 24, 2006, 8:24:47 AM7/24/06
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Brian Christiansen wrote:

> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>

It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
especially *different* or shocking about the flavor. I
understand it's the most commonly eaten meat in the world.
I chopped it up in the processor to make a topping for pasta
for visiting family recently. I used goat because I wanted
to wake up visiting kids to the idea that food can be
interesting and fun. It worked; after the initial wide-eyes
(but no words because they're not allowed to grunt at the
table) they were definitely more alert to everything served.

rtk

Phred

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Jul 24, 2006, 9:22:40 AM7/24/06
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In article <ea2e6f$nco$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, ex...@remove.psu.edu wrote:
>Brian Christiansen wrote:
>
>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>>
>It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing

I would have expected it to be a bit stronger than that.

Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
here AFAIK. :-(

I presume this is because most places that grow goats eat pretty much
all that they produce. Following on this "logic" (and the fact that
most Oz goat meat comes from feral animals on outback grazing
properties) I surmised we exported most of it to Germany, where they
seem to be rather partial to "game". However, I was informed that our
main market is the good ole US of A!

Also, it seems we could actually be exporting more of the stuff, but
the blokes who run the "industry" can't get enough workers to expand
their operations. Indeed, it seems such workers as they do have are
mostly "imported" from sundry parts of Asia -- presumably on working
visas, but maybe as permanent migrants?

[Added aus.food to Newsgroups hoping for further enlightenment. :-)]

>especially *different* or shocking about the flavor. I
>understand it's the most commonly eaten meat in the world.
>I chopped it up in the processor to make a topping for pasta
>for visiting family recently. I used goat because I wanted
>to wake up visiting kids to the idea that food can be
>interesting and fun. It worked; after the initial wide-eyes
>(but no words because they're not allowed to grunt at the
>table) they were definitely more alert to everything served.

Cheers, Phred.

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MoM

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Jul 24, 2006, 10:03:15 AM7/24/06
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I always understood that goat was like strong lamb but gamier.

MoM


The Cook

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Jul 24, 2006, 10:04:50 AM7/24/06
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:03:15 -0400, "MoM" <mNOSPAM...@gmail.com>
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--
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48 percent indignation, and 50 percent envy."
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Bailey Legull

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Jul 24, 2006, 12:53:19 PM7/24/06
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Goat is perfectly delicious. Pork is probably the closest comparison.

Years ago I heard about a new goat restaurant that had opened (in
Hawthorne, CA) and decided to go for lunch. I told some friends, and
they instantly latched on. "Are you SURE you wanna go?" I asked. "You
SURE you're willing to eat goat?"

"Yup," they said. "Sounds terrific!"

Well, we get to the place, and they're all horrified. Thought I was
kidding or something. Or maybe it was the murals of the little goats
romping through green pastures that put them off. En masse they turned
and RAN from the place. We ended up getting sandwiches somewhere else.

Needless to say, I'm mystified by this pickiness. Chickens, ducks,
cows and sheep are okay. Dog, guinea pig, and goat, though, are
DISGUSTING!!! Not the slightest bit of common sense, in otherwise
reasonable people.

Helen Harrand

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To me it tastes more like lamb than anything else and I LOVE it.

helen


novus

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Jul 24, 2006, 8:34:42 PM7/24/06
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"Phred" <ppnerkDE...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ea2e6f$nco$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, ex...@remove.psu.edu wrote:
>>Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>
>>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>>>
>>It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
>
> I would have expected it to be a bit stronger than that.
>
> Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
> leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
> here AFAIK. :-(
>
> I presume this is because most places that grow goats eat pretty much
> all that they produce. Following on this "logic" (and the fact that
> most Oz goat meat comes from feral animals on outback grazing
> properties) I surmised we exported most of it to Germany, where they
> seem to be rather partial to "game". However, I was informed that our
> main market is the good ole US of A!
>
> Also, it seems we could actually be exporting more of the stuff, but
> the blokes who run the "industry" can't get enough workers to expand
> their operations. Indeed, it seems such workers as they do have are
> mostly "imported" from sundry parts of Asia -- presumably on working
> visas, but maybe as permanent migrants?
<snip>
There was an exceleent program on the Australian goat meat industry on last
weekend's Landline program on ABC TV.
If you have digital TV, the Landline program is repeated a number of times
on ABC2. It mentions that goat meat is the most consumed red meat in the
world, partly because it does not come under many religious dietary bans. In
Charleville, many properties that used to depend on sheep now depend on
goats with judicious crossing between feral and domesticated varieties. I
eat goat regularly (particularly in curries) and it tastes like lamb but
slightly gamier.

novus


Kathleen

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Jul 24, 2006, 9:45:43 PM7/24/06
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Bailey Legull wrote:

> Goat is perfectly delicious. Pork is probably the closest comparison.

<snip>

Yeah, pretty much. I've had goat a few times and the texture resembled
pork, but the dishes were highly seasoned so it'd be hard to say what
the meat itself actually tasted like.

Kathleen


Moses Lim

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Jul 24, 2006, 10:49:55 PM7/24/06
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Phred wrote:

> In article <ea2e6f$nco$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, ex...@remove.psu.edu wrote:
>>Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>
>>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
>>>
>>It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
>
> I would have expected it to be a bit stronger than that.
>
> Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
> leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
> here AFAIK. :-(

Goat meat is easily available from butchers in Cabramatta, Sydney.

I get to eat goat meat at Hotel Saravana Bhavan in Croydon Park, Sydney.
Nathan, the chef, gets some really meaty tender chunks in from
godknowswhere. Absolutely dyn-o-mite with his paratha!! :)

Used to be an Indonesian place at Arncliffe where goat meat was a regular
item on the menu, but alas, Sabana Buyung is no more :(

when I was growing up (nearly said "when I was a kid" there), Mum would also
do goat stew or a goat soup. MMMmmmmmmmm :)

Louis Cohen

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Jul 25, 2006, 12:41:04 AM7/25/06
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Brian Christiansen wrote:


>
> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?

Start with lamb, and think of a more distinctive flavor. Goat is
delicious roasted, stewed, or curried.

Chookie

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Jul 25, 2006, 1:25:13 AM7/25/06
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In article <4ijvr9F...@individual.net>,
ppnerkDE...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:

> >> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste like?
> >>
> >It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing

Similar to lamb or hogget. Nothing like chicken.

> Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
> leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
> here AFAIK. :-(

You can get it at any butcher that serves Italians. Try Aldo's meats in
Leichhardt and Moree Meats at Strathfield, if you live in Sydney.



> I presume this is because most places that grow goats eat pretty much
> all that they produce. Following on this "logic" (and the fact that
> most Oz goat meat comes from feral animals on outback grazing
> properties) I surmised we exported most of it to Germany, where they
> seem to be rather partial to "game". However, I was informed that our
> main market is the good ole US of A!

Maybe that explains all the "Lamb -- yuk!" threads on rf*...

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Parenthood is like the modern stone washing process for denim jeans. You may
start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
Kerry Cue

Rheilly Phoull

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Jul 25, 2006, 5:08:19 AM7/25/06
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Chookie wrote:
> In article <4ijvr9F...@individual.net>,
> ppnerkDE...@yahoo.com (Phred) wrote:
>
>>>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste
>>>> like?
>>>>
>>> It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
>
> Similar to lamb or hogget. Nothing like chicken.
>
>> Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
>> leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
>> here AFAIK. :-(
>
> You can get it at any butcher that serves Italians. Try Aldo's meats
> in Leichhardt and Moree Meats at Strathfield, if you live in Sydney.
>
>> I presume this is because most places that grow goats eat pretty much
>> all that they produce. Following on this "logic" (and the fact that
>> most Oz goat meat comes from feral animals on outback grazing
>> properties) I surmised we exported most of it to Germany, where they
>> seem to be rather partial to "game". However, I was informed that
>> our main market is the good ole US of A!
>
> Maybe that explains all the "Lamb -- yuk!" threads on rf*...

If you are buying at an italian butcher (highly recommended for all your
needs) ask for 'Capretto'.
--

Cheers ......... Rheilly P

Where theres a will, I want to be in it.


enigma

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Jul 25, 2006, 4:47:20 PM7/25/06
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dkw1...@yahoo.com wrote in
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> Goats are delightful, useful animals. I raised them for
> many years, used a cream separator to make nonfat milk
> which I drank and gave the cream to my barn cats and dog
> which had beautiful coats. Wish I could keep them again,
> but like cows, once they start milking, you can't do much
> and need to milk them 2X a day no matter what. dkw

um, not quite true... one can separate the kids & does at
night, milk out the does in the morning, then put the kids
with the does for the day. one milking per day, nice fat kids.
or, if you need to go away for a weekend or so, just leave the
kids with the does & they'll do the milking.
i'm breeding my (twin) milk goats to Boer bucks this fall so i
have meat kids (hopefully. with my luck both girls will have
twin doelings).
goat meat is better than lamb IMO, or least any lamb i've had
recently. ick.
lee <and i like lamb>

mme...@nospam.iglou.com

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Jul 25, 2006, 9:53:01 PM7/25/06
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On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:21:51 GMT, "Brian Christiansen"
<brian_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I had roast goat in San Antonio a few years ago (restaurant on the
south side of the Mercado - can't recall the name right now). While I
don't remember the taste well enough to be able to describe it, I
remember that I enjoyed it very much.

Phred

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Jul 26, 2006, 8:33:36 AM7/26/06
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In article <bjidc25t1ll4ceor0...@4ax.com>, mme...@nospam.iglou.com wrote:
>On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 00:21:51 GMT, "Brian Christiansen"
><brian_ch...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I had roast goat in San Antonio a few years ago (restaurant on the
>south side of the Mercado - can't recall the name right now). While I
>don't remember the taste well enough to be able to describe it, I
>remember that I enjoyed it very much.

I had *many* great meals based on "mutton" when I was in India years
ago and I saw lots of goats but bugger all sheep during several months
driving all over southern India -- so I've always assumed Indian
"mutton" is actually goat.

Comments please Ronnie, or others?

Cheers, Phred.

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Bob Terwilliger

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Jul 26, 2006, 10:21:07 AM7/26/06
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Phred wrote:

> bugger all sheep

I've heard that about you Aussies...

Bob


Phred

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Just a rumour started by the Kiwis trying to pass the buck.

Cheers, Phred.

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Jack Kennedy

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Jul 27, 2006, 1:20:14 PM7/27/06
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Here in Amsterdam we've various flavors of Islamic butchers; some of them
offering goat. I've tried it disguised as a French leg-of-lamb ... lots of
garlic, and on the barbecue. I really couldn't distinguish it from good
lamb.
jack.s...@xs4all.nl
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Yvonne

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Ms Leebee wrote:

> Phred wrote:
>
>>In article <ea2e6f$nco$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, ex...@remove.psu.edu
>>wrote:
>>
>>>Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste
>>>>like?
>>>>
>>>
>>>It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
>>
>>I would have expected it to be a bit stronger than that.
>>
>>Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
>>leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
>>here AFAIK. :-(
>
>
> I had a NZ'er come visit recently and they were raving over the quality and
> cost of our steaks.
>
> Apparently all that brilliant export-quality NZ beef is exactly that. They
> make more to export it, and are left to eat the inferior quality stuff
> themselves ..... blah !
>
>

I have seen goat meat advertised at a store (Melbourne's west)- not sure
if it was a small supermarket or butcher that sold halal(?), but I don't
think I want to buy any.

Leo

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Oct 5, 2006, 4:35:00 AM10/5/06
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Ms Leebee wrote:
> I had a NZ'er come visit recently

How long before s/he punched you in the nose?

Nina Pretty Ballerina

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> Phred wrote:
>> In article <ea2e6f$nco$1...@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>, ex...@remove.psu.edu
>> wrote:
>>> Brian Christiansen wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, does anybody have any idea what goat's meat might taste
>>>> like?
>>>>
>>> It's somewhere between lamb and chicken. There's nothing
>>
>> I would have expected it to be a bit stronger than that.
>>
>> Incidentally, I heard last night from a mate that Oz is the world's
>> leading exporter of goat meat -- and we can't even buy the stuff
>> here AFAIK. :-(
>
> I had a NZ'er come visit recently and they were raving over the quality
> and cost of our steaks.
>
> Apparently all that brilliant export-quality NZ beef is exactly that.
> They make more to export it, and are left to eat the inferior quality
> stuff themselves ..... blah !
>

i have seen goat curries on menus before??? havent i? indian restuarants?

Douglas J. Renze

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Oct 5, 2006, 8:03:51 PM10/5/06
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Ms Leebee wrote:

> I had a NZ'er come visit recently and they were raving over the quality and
> cost of our steaks.
>
> Apparently all that brilliant export-quality NZ beef is exactly that. They
> make more to export it, and are left to eat the inferior quality stuff
> themselves ..... blah !
>

Sounds like living in Iowa when it comes to getting good pork & beef.

--
Douglas J. Renze
drenze [at] earthlink [dot] net

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