I get my 100% electric Nissan Leaf back in a few days!

[John Kuthe]

It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!

I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!

Fucking car thieves! :-(

John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Taxed and Spent]

The good news is that you are inoculated against future collisions.
Collisions only happen to new cars.

[John Kuthe]

It's a USED 2013 Nissan Leaf! But it uses ZERO gasoline! I don't care about it's body! I care about it functioning correctly mechanically again as a 100% electric car! I safe an ENORMOUS amount of MONEY not buying gasoline!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>
>I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!

$4K of repairs on a car worth ~6-8K$ is pretty borderline...

[John Kuthe]

Not buying and burning gasoline is my Leaf's main feature! And I love not buying or burning gasoline! I rode my bicycle a lot when gasoline got over $3/gal and not buying/burning gasoline is the coolest!

John Kuthe...

[Lucretia Borgia]

No loss if it is off the road, his electricity is coal generated but
he always likes to ignore that fact!

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

Coal fired power stinks and of course your other vehicle is a gas
guzzling van contraption.

[jmcquown]

He will never pay attention to that. It's too factual for him to absorb.

Jill

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:11:10 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Things are changing. In the EU more power currently comes from
sustainable sources than from fossil sources. John is prepared.
Gas/petrol cars are not.

[Bruce]

He knows it and has said so. But he's prepared for the sustainable
future, depending on how fast or slow the US is in transitioning to
sustainable sources.

[John Kuthe]

I don't have to BUY GASOLINE for it! In the 2.5 years I've had my Leaf I've spent hardly anything on Gasoline! And I will soon be back to that blissful state!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Exactly! Me and my house, 100% ready for the 21st Century!

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

John Kuthe wrote:

Much better to buy coal fired electricity.

[Barbie Achtung]

Your used Leaf now cost more than a new one.

I've got $1,000 CASH for anybody that rams into him next week and
runs. Police never investigate those things anyway.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jul 27, , Bruce wrote
(in article<tdruhflid5dtctlfu...@4ax.com>):

> Things are changing. In the EU more power currently comes from
> sustainable sources than from fossil sources. John is prepared.
> Gas/petrol cars are not.

If that’s true and one subtracts nukes which need replenishment over time
until radioactive materials eventually run out, just like oil, coal and
natural gas, you’re saying the EU will be fine with wind, solar and water.
I agree. There will just be a whole lot less of us on Earth, and rapidly
diminishing, when that happens. Ain’t entropy a bitch?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 21:37:52 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I'm not sure where you're going with this, but renewable is the
future. Actually, it's the present in modern countries.

[Leo]

On 2020 Jul 27, , Bruce wrote

(in article<buavhflvkdfv47gji...@4ax.com>):

> I'm not sure where you're going with this, but renewable is the
> future. Actually, it's the present in modern countries.

I’m dense. Define renewable. Do you mean reusable as something else? I
agree that one should get the most from every molecule, but no scientist,
engineer or country in the World is anywhere close to that.
Perhaps, we’re talking apples and oranges.

[ZZyXX]

don't you have insurance

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:02:23 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

I'm talking about solar, wind, biomass and whatever I forgot.

[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:34:45 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> It's a USED 2013 Nissan Leaf! But it uses ZERO gasoline! I don't
> care about it's body! I care about it functioning correctly
> mechanically again as a 100% electric car!

Didn't you pay at least $2K for body work earlier this year when you
ran into your house, that you paid for with CASH?

That battery is getting ready to fail, too. That's another $3 or
$4K. You've got two Money Pits and no more money!


-sw

[Lucretia Borgia]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:15:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:54:09 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:04:31 +1000, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> >><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>> >>>
>> >>>I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>> >>
>> >>$4K of repairs on a car worth ~6-8K$ is pretty borderline...
>> >
>> >No loss if it is off the road, his electricity is coal generated but
>> >he always likes to ignore that fact!
>>
>> He knows it and has said so. But he's prepared for the sustainable
>> future, depending on how fast or slow the US is in transitioning to
>> sustainable sources.
>
>Exactly! Me and my house, 100% ready for the 21st Century!
>
>John Kuthe...

I suggest you take a good look at the problem these 'electric' car
batteries present when you no longer drive it.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 08:08:14 -0300, Lucretia Borgia

<lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:

>On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:52:58 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 7:15:48 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 20:54:09 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
>>> <lucreti...@fl.it> wrote:
>>>
>>> >On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:04:31 +1000, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> >><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>>It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>>> >>
>>> >>$4K of repairs on a car worth ~6-8K$ is pretty borderline...
>>> >
>>> >No loss if it is off the road, his electricity is coal generated but
>>> >he always likes to ignore that fact!
>>>
>>> He knows it and has said so. But he's prepared for the sustainable
>>> future, depending on how fast or slow the US is in transitioning to
>>> sustainable sources.
>>
>>Exactly! Me and my house, 100% ready for the 21st Century!
>>
>>John Kuthe...
>
>I suggest you take a good look at the problem these 'electric' car
>batteries present when you no longer drive it.

Are you saying we should all continue to drive gas/petrol cars? Are
you? Are you?

[Lucretia Borgia]

I am not telling anyone what they should drive but I get tired of
Kuthe conveniently forgetting that his electric car has some big
downsides as well. I drive a little Mazda II which at this point is
likely more environmentally friendly. Uses very little gas and when
aged out, is recyclable.

[Ed Pawlowski]

That is all good but let's be truthful about it. Shipping logs from the
US and Canada to be burned in Europe as biomass is BS. Those ships
carrying the logs us a lot of oil.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/3/4/18216045/renewable-energy-wood-pellets-biomass

I do recall reading there is enough potential solar energy to power
everything we need. Problem is, it has to be harnessed and stored, but
even that is making progress.

Some of my electricity is coming from solar.

[graham]

On 2020-07-28 8:24 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/28/2020 2:11 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:02:23 -0700, Leo <leobla...@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2020 Jul 27, , Bruce wrote
>>> (in article<buavhflvkdfv47gji...@4ax.com>):
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure where you're going with this, but renewable is the
>>>> future. Actually, it's the present in modern countries.
>>>
>>> I’m dense. Define renewable. Do you mean reusable as something else? I
>>> agree that one should get the most from every molecule, but no
>>> scientist,
>>> engineer or country in the World is anywhere close to that.
>>> Perhaps, we’re talking apples and oranges.
>>
>> I'm talking about solar, wind, biomass and whatever I forgot.
>>
>
> That is all good but let's be truthful about it.  Shipping logs from the
> US and Canada to be burned in Europe as biomass is BS.

My B-I-L had to close down his sawmill because the biomass companies
were buying up all the saw-logs.

[Bruce]

We'll get there. Question is how much irreversible damage we'll do to
the planet before we get there.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 09:49:55 -0300, Lucretia Borgia

You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
the future.

[dsi1]

In the end, all of our power comes from the nearest star, our sun. Power storage i.e., batteries will be the most important thing in the near future. My guess is that this century will be known as the age of power generation and storage.

[dsi1]

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 12:02:50 PM UTC-10, John Kuthe wrote:
> It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>
> I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>

> Fucking car thieves! :-(
>
> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

My son's girlfriend got rid of her Leaf and bought a BMW convertible. That's a good thing - they were spending too much time charging that thing up and her new car is certainly a nice ride. Saving the planet will have to wait a few more years but she should get credit for the time she has already spent.

[Bruce]

It's a bit early to say. Maybe the dinosaurs come back this century.
Or Martians land.

[Ed Pawlowski]

People thought the automobile was just a fad too. but it seems to be
sticking around. Original electrics were crude but are improving.
There are some cobalt free batteries in the works that will put an end
to the child labor portion of it.

It does not completely fit my needs yet but the one Chevy Bolt I drove
was impressive performance. Range is adequate for most people's daily
commute, not so good for longer trips. Price is about $10,000 more than
a gas car too, but that will also change with time.

[Bruce]

No she relapsed. That's frowned upon.

[Lucretia Borgia]

Only after they find a solution for the old batteries.

[Bruce]

It's strange that people who normally don't bother about child labor
or the environment or anything else (not referring to anybody in
particular), suddenly use it as an argument against electric cars.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:11:01 -0300, Lucretia Borgia

You'll grasp at anything to justify driving your old stinker :)

[dsi1]

Well okay, some of us just need a little more time to recognize what's in front of them.

[dsi1]

For some folks, an electric car is not a practical option. Having one's life ruled by having to strategically map out charger location is no way to live. Charging the car was free but still wasn't worth the hassle. That's just my awesome opinion.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:50:29 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Some of us think they've seen the whole century after 20 years :)

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 12:54:23 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Yes, it has to be practical. On the other hand, can't you get
everywhere on your rock with just one charge? It's not like you're
driving from Sydney to Melbourne. Not that you'd want to at the
moment.

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-28 3:54 p.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 9:10:40 AM UTC-10, Brucie whined:

>> No she relapsed. That's frowned upon.
>
> For some folks, an electric car is not a practical option. Having
> one's life ruled by having to strategically map out charger location
> is no way to live. Charging the car was free but still wasn't worth
> the hassle. That's just my awesome opinion.

A friend of mine bought a Tesla. It's a nice car and it is great for
most of his driving needs. Last year he went kayaking up near North
Bay, which is about 400 km north of us. He had to stop in Hunstville,
about 140 km south of his destination to recharge and that added about
an hour and a half to his trip. Then he had to make a similar
recharging stop on the return trip.

Last year when I went up to the French River we would have had a hard
time had we had an electric car. There had been nasty wind storms
through the area and there was no electricity for four days. I had a IC
powered vehicle and, as per my habit, I filled up when I got there to
ensure a full tank for my departure.

[Hank Rogers]

Next thing you know, she'll start eating meat and quit sniffing asses.

[Lucretia Borgia]

I don't know anyone who normally does not bother about child labor,
possibly you, I don't know.

[Dave Smith]

People grasp at straws when looking for facts to support their opinions.
A few years ago they shut down the rural Gr.6-8 school around the
corner from us and built an addition on the K-5 school in town to
accommodate K-8. Of course they had to change the name and they came up
with Wellington Height, commemorating the famous British General and
hero of the Napoleonic Wars. Some of the opponents thought it discredit
his good name by raining the issue of his having been anti Semitic.
Nice try, but it was the early 19th century and most people in Britain
were at that time.

'

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 16:20:13 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 6:04:40 PM UTC-5, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:02:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>> >
>> >I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>>
>> $4K of repairs on a car worth ~6-8K$ is pretty borderline...
>

>Not buying and burning gasoline is my Leaf's main feature! And I love not buying or burning gasoline!

Yes, you prefer coal and not oil. Why not ethanol?


>I rode my bicycle a lot when gasoline got over $3/gal and not buying/burning gasoline is the coolest!

You could have lived a lot more ecologically sustainably with your
inheritance if you bought a small farm or acreage... that is, if you
genuinely cared, that is.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:23:34 -0700, ZZyXX
<zz...@CampSoda-Restoration-Project.tv> wrote:

>On 7/27/20 3:02 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>>
>> I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>>

>> Fucking car thieves! :-(
>>
>> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
>>

>don't you have insurance

Good point. I guess insurance comes under the category of evil, or
mammom (or whatever it is).

[John Kuthe]

For SOME people, an electric car is the perfect solution! Like me, who lives 15min from his place of work. And I have my last day of paid orientation TOMORROW, 7A-7P, then every other weekend after that Sat/Sun 7A-7P also!

And I will be getting my 100% electric Leaf back SOON! And will go back to burning/buying ZERO gasoline!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Hank Rogers]

Yes, and he also could have turned it into a hippie commune, like
the one in tennessee (The Farm), and could have recruited not only
students, but hundreds of other folks.

Being a cannabis RN, he could have also provided both medical care
and good home grown smoking dope for everyone.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/28/2020 3:12 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>> You may see a problem with batteries, but electric is still the way of
>>> the future.
>>>
>>
>> People thought the automobile was just a fad too. but it seems to be
>> sticking around. Original electrics were crude but are improving.
>> There are some cobalt free batteries in the works that will put an end
>> to the child labor portion of it.
>>
>> It does not completely fit my needs yet but the one Chevy Bolt I drove
>> was impressive performance. Range is adequate for most people's daily
>> commute, not so good for longer trips. Price is about $10,000 more than
>> a gas car too, but that will also change with time.
>
> It's strange that people who normally don't bother about child labor
> or the environment or anything else (not referring to anybody in
> particular), suddenly use it as an argument against electric cars.
>

There is actually an argument in favor of the child labor. Take away
the few pennies they make and they would starve. Most of those
countries have a lot of political and socio/economic problems.

[Hank Rogers]

He's an insurance anarchist.

[Ed Pawlowski]

When I lived in CT it was about 430 kilometers to where we would visit
family in Philly. Would be a PITA if I could not make it. Would not be
too bad for a 15 minute stop.

Next week I'm making a 1900k/1200M trip. I will make at least one stop
plenty long enough to charge but would need more. With present
conditions, I don't want to stop and hang around people any more than I
have to.

In time, I expect it will be faster charges and longer range. If I
still had two car, no problem as one would be an ICE. Most trips in a
month are less than 50 miles.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Most people never think about it as they don't see it.

[Hank Rogers]

Back to good old genuine 100% coal fired electricity in da Loo.

Woohoo!

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:37:58 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:

Now, that would cover all his bases. Instead, he seems to prefer
making the *appearence* of being a superior person. Just look at all
the virtue-signalling he does here. He seems to be all show and little
substance.

[jmcquown]

This isn't the same time as when he drove the car into the side of his
house. I truly don't remember what happened to his electric car this
time around. Seems like it's been the shop for a very long time.

Jill

[Jeßus]

Since these same people (who for the most part have never been to a
3rd world or developing nation) seem to know better, and think their
perceptions are accurate from afar... Perhaps they could put their
money where their mouths are and offer to pay these children to not
work?

[jmcquown]

I'm glad to hear you've been called back to work. I do wonder how
you're going to supervise all the construction and take care of that
*copper nail* when you're not at home.

> And I will be getting my 100% electric Leaf back SOON! And will go back to burning/buying ZERO gasoline!
>

Um... how are you planning to get to/from work? Lemme guess: BabyII?
That gas guzzling van of yours? Heh.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:55:36 -0500, Hank Rogers <Nos...@invalid.com>
wrote:

Haha. He should use that in his sig.

[Jeßus]

You burn zero gasoline in your Nissan leaf?!? Amazing revelation,
right there.

[Dave Smith]

There was that old joke about the farmer who had won $10 million in the
lottery. A reporter asked him what he was going to do with it and he
said " I think I will just keep farming until it is all gone."

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 17:40:45 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

And don't forget, without child labor we'd have to pay more!

[Lucretia Borgia]

I grew up in the far east...

[Bruce]

Child labor gives that extra edge to a product.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:05:46 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Ask him, he's here.

[Bruce]

And you saw child labour there?

[Dave Smith]

Just like the good old days when, if you had enough children and had
them all out working you might be able to afford toilet paper.

[Bruce]

Was there already a Canada during Charles Dickens?

[Hank Rogers]

Them damn biddies just won't leave yoose be!

[Hank Rogers]

<*SNIFF*>

[Hank Rogers]

Lots of good sniffing for you in this thread Druce.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:14:22 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Sounds ideal for John then.

[dsi1]

In the near future, the internal combustion engine will be seen as impractical as the steam engine. The electric car will have a range that's not possible with gas cars. It will allow people to keep their beloved big trucks and SUVs because they'll be more economical to run than even small gas cars.

The batteries will outlast the cars they're installed in and they'll be commodity items used for industrial and household power storage long after their primary usage in cars. Batteries are going to be a very big thing.

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>
> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> > I don't know anyone who normally does not bother about child labor,
> > possibly you, I don't know.
> >
> Most people never think about it as they don't see it.

Hey, I lived it back in the 1960's. For many years, my chores
were to cut the grass once a week and take out the kitchen
garbage once a day. For that, my allowance was $1.00 per week.

Large yard too with a few very steep hills. Dangerous to mow.
It took about 3-4 hours to do with the smelly push mower.

All for $1.00 a week. Dad got a very good deal. Just the
easy garbage thing was worth that much.

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
> This isn't the same time as when he drove the car into the side of his
> house. I truly don't remember what happened to his electric car this
> time around.

It was a hit and run accident as he turned at an intersection.

[Gary]

Lucretia Borgia wrote:
> I grew up in the far east...

I grew up in the far east of North America. I still live
there, although much closer to the edge now.

[Taxed and Spent]

It has been pretty clear from some of your posts that you were very
close to the edge.

[Gary]

;)

[Taxed and Spent]

I don't believe it! I don't bother to put a smiley face on my obviously
smart alec remark, and a usenet user doesn't take offense! There may be
hope for this world yet.

You have made my day. Clocking out of usenet now to savor the moment.

[jmcquown]

Thanks, now I remember. It still shouldn't cost him $4000 to get it
fixed (even without body work) unless all he has is Liability insurance.
Liability doesn't cover hit & run accidents. That's generally covered
under Collision. He likely went with the cheapest option - Liability
only. Now he's paying out the wazoo for not having Collision.

I've mentioned before, my car was hit in a Walgreen's parking lot. It
was a hit & run. No one saw what happened and the parking lot didn't
have security cameras. My insurance covered all of it under Collision.
I have a $500 deductible but I got an unwitnessed accident report form
from the Sheriff's department to submit to my insurance carrier. They
cut the deductible in half. My car was only in the shop for a week and
all I paid was $250. (They provided me with a rental car, too. John
still has "BabyII" so he didn't need a rental.)

Jill

[Sheldon Martin]

You were very lucky. I never got an allowence and never got paid for
doing chores. I did jobs for others to earn money; delivered
groceries, newspapers, even Rx drugs. And of course I painted a lot
of stoops, wrought iron, etc... whatever the neighbors would pay me to
do.

[Sheldon Martin]

Sometimes you even paint yourself into a corner. ;)

[jmcquown]

On 7/29/2020 11:19 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:56:02 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>> Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>>>> I don't know anyone who normally does not bother about child labor,
>>>> possibly you, I don't know.
>>>>
>>> Most people never think about it as they don't see it.
>>
>> Hey, I lived it back in the 1960's. For many years, my chores
>> were to cut the grass once a week and take out the kitchen
>> garbage once a day. For that, my allowance was $1.00 per week.
>>
>> Large yard too with a few very steep hills. Dangerous to mow.
>> It took about 3-4 hours to do with the smelly push mower.
>>
>> All for $1.00 a week. Dad got a very good deal. Just the
>> easy garbage thing was worth that much.
>
> You were very lucky. I never got an allowence and never got paid for
> doing chores.

My dad didn't believe in an allowance, either. My brothers and I were
expected to mow the lawn, rake the leaves, take out the trash, clean our
bedrooms, help Mom with the laundry. His stance was he worked to put
food on the table and paid for the clothes on our backs. We did get a
little pocket money but not a set allowance.

Jill

[dsi1]

I don't recall if I ever got an allowance. My dad did, however. Back in the old days, my dad would give his paycheck to my mom who took care of the payments and the family budget. My dad would get a few buck to spend as he wished. It's an old-school Asian arrangement. My guess is that some European cultures did that too. These days, in America, anything goes and the family paycheck gets blown all over the damn place.

[Cindy Hamilton]

I take care of the bills and each of us gets an allowance. It's not about
culture; it's pure pragmatism. I think his father handled the bills in
his family.

Cindy Hamilton

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:05:46 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 7/28/2020 5:14 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:23:34 -0700, ZZyXX
>> <zz...@CampSoda-Restoration-Project.tv> wrote:
>>

>>> On 7/27/20 3:02 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> It was HIT with me in it by probably a stolen car heading East on Delmar as I was turning left ON THE LIGHT Midland to Delmar!
>>>>
>>>> I am NOT having any bodywork done as the mechanical repair will cost me about $4000. So now INF-MPG will wear the scar inflicted by a probably stolen White car! And I know it was a white car as it's a very busy intersection at 5PM and other drivers stopped got out to get pieces of the White car out of the road!
>>>>
>>>> Fucking car thieves! :-(
>>>>
>>>> John Kuthe, ClimAte Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian
>>>>

>>> don't you have insurance
>>
>> Good point. I guess insurance comes under the category of evil, or
>> mammom (or whatever it is).
>>

>This isn't the same time as when he drove the car into the side of his
>house.

Yes, I didnt think it was.

>I truly don't remember what happened to his electric car this

>time around. Seems like it's been the shop for a very long time.

Somebody ran into him, I think? That was what he was claiming anyway.
The recent pic's damage doesn't look like the damage was caused by
another vehicle though.

[Dave Smith]

Curiously, that is the same area of the car that was damaged when he had
a booboo driving into his driveway.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:41:06 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

What are you saying, Miss Marple?

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 16:41:06 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

It could be that for wherever reason, he did in fact post the pic of
that damage and not the 'hit and run'.

[dsi1]

In our case, it was culture. It was a common practice in Hawaii and Japan back in the old days. In your case, it was some kind of random occurrence.

https://www.japan-talk.com/jt/new/okozukai

[Hank Rogers]

<*SNIFF*>

[Bruce]

When a mainlander farts, it's a fart. When a Hawaiian farts, it's
culture.

[Hank Rogers]

In either case, you'll be there immediately to inhale it.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I paid the bills. Payday was the last Thursday of the month. All the
bills were paid and money set aside for the annual bills like taxes,
insurance, etc. Our allowance is what was left over. Had to last to
next payday. Repeat 11 more times during the year.

I liked getting paid monthly. At different places years ago I was paid
weekly. bi-weekly and at one time I was paid weakly.

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:1dd145d4-8970-4cb7...@googlegroups.com...

=====

Interesting:) Is your culture more Japanese than Chinese?

[dsi1]

Hawaiian culture is mostly a mix of Japanese, Chinese, and Hawaiian, cultures. Not that it matters much these days. The younger generation will determine what Hawaiian culture will be in the future. It's going to be different than it is now.

We ate at my step-mom's house today. It was not bad. From the spread, we can see that the Swedes are into gravy. She had white, tan, and brown, gravy. She cooked the beef Euro style i.e., well done. My favorite dishes were the bacon wrapped asparagus and the mashed potatoes.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/y9UJh1PEQyOrXWNwZSs4Uw.Zerd773lTMwMkcwWbUQ_oS

[Bruce]

Euro style beef isn't well done, Mr Blanket Statement.

Feed the guy beef prepared by a Swede once, and he's an expert on Euro
style beef :)

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not random. A conscious decision to allocate the financial duties
to the right person for the job. That's how we divide all the
chores, except for the ones that require no special skill. Then
whoever notices it needs to be done, does it.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 5:58:35 AM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> We ate at my step-mom's house today. It was not bad. From the spread, we can see that the Swedes are into gravy. She had white, tan, and brown, gravy.

Unlike the Hawaiians. Loco moco anyone?

The Chinese just make the gravy part of the dish. I've seen it
in many of your photos.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"dsi1" wrote in message
news:41d5e140-e36e-4c4f...@googlegroups.com...

> In our case, it was culture. It was a common practice in Hawaii and Japan
> back in the old days. In your case, it was some kind of random occurrence.
>
> https://www.japan-talk.com/jt/new/okozukai
>
> =====
>
> Interesting:) Is your culture more Japanese than Chinese?

Hawaiian culture is mostly a mix of Japanese, Chinese, and Hawaiian,
cultures. Not that it matters much these days. The younger generation will
determine what Hawaiian culture will be in the future. It's going to be
different than it is now.

Yes, it is true of most things now:)

We ate at my step-mom's house today. It was not bad. From the spread, we can
see that the Swedes are into gravy. She had white, tan, and brown, gravy.
She cooked the beef Euro style i.e., well done. My favorite dishes were the
bacon wrapped asparagus and the mashed potatoes.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/y9UJh1PEQyOrXWNwZSs4Uw.Zerd773lTMwMkcwWbUQ_oS

Awww it wouldn't come up:(( It sounds lovely though:))

[dsi1]

My guess is that you don't know what you're talking about, Mr. Hawaiian blanket statement.

[dsi1]

The Hawaiians love gravy. The Chinese love gravy. I love gravy but you're not going to see me ever make 3 gravies at once and stick it on a table. My guess is that you've never done it either. Perhaps you should try it. I sure won't.

There was one gravy for the beef, one tan gravy for the Swedish meatballs. I'm guessing that the white gravy was for the pork, which was damn delicious. Of course, I'm far from an expert on Swedish gravy practices so I might be wrong.

https://www.amazon.com/photos/shared/0rH7tnGKTva81on3oboRgg.NKqghfzYswvhiOCWJreY7v