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songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 12:39:13 AM1/12/21
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which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
corn starch based?

i have all the ingredients and i've made both kinds
before and i prefer the flour and butter kind.

or is there some other method/ingredients you'd
use to make chocolate pudding?

Mom brought home five more bananas and we'll need
to eat them up sooner rather than later and one way
she will eat them is if they're sliced in chocolate
pudding.

and, yes, my google isn't broken, but i thought it
an interesting topic for the group.


songbird

Sqwertz

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:47:15 AM1/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 00:38:59 -0500, songbird wrote:

> which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
> corn starch based?

Eww to both. How about egg yolk based. I've never heard of a roux
based pudding.

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dsi1

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Jan 12, 2021, 5:36:01 AM1/12/21
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I have a bag of creme brulee mix that uses carrageenan as a thickening agent. There's no eggs and it's not set by heat. Just heat the mix until it starts to boil and cook for about a minute. That's it. Super fast and it makes the best creme brulee ever. It's a German product.
https://store.bakerscandc.com/creme-brulee-mix-35oz-14666

Cindy Hamilton

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Jan 12, 2021, 6:40:05 AM1/12/21
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:39:13 AM UTC-5, songbird wrote:
> which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
> corn starch based?
>
> i have all the ingredients and i've made both kinds
> before and i prefer the flour and butter kind.

Then make that kind.

I prefer cornstarch.

Cindy Hamilton

Gary

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Jan 12, 2021, 8:56:00 AM1/12/21
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As I rarely make chocolate pudding, I'm fine with the occasional "Jello"
brand. The kind you cook, not the instant.

I like a banana in a bowl with vanilla ice cream.



Taxed and Spent

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Jan 12, 2021, 9:28:59 AM1/12/21
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"It's not set by heat"? I think it is. That is why you heat it. and
what does it matter?

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 12, 2021, 9:31:24 AM1/12/21
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What is it about the four and butter kind that you find preferable to
the cornstarch version?

Other thickeners: Tapioca flour? Arrowroot?


Mike Duffy

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Jan 12, 2021, 10:02:13 AM1/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 02:35:57 -0800, dsi1 wrote:


> I have a bag of crème brûlée mix that uses carrageenan

> https://store.bakerscandc.com/creme-brulee-mix-35oz-14666

C'mon. If you don't burn the cream, call it something else.

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 12, 2021, 10:07:28 AM1/12/21
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Instructions say to sprinkle sugar on top and torch it.

Sheldon Martin

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Jan 12, 2021, 10:16:00 AM1/12/21
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One word: Tapioca.

Gary

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Jan 12, 2021, 10:39:04 AM1/12/21
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One word: Jello lol



Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2021, 10:44:18 AM1/12/21
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On 2021-01-12 12:38 a.m., songbird wrote:
> which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
> corn starch based?
>

Fried ????

> i have all the ingredients and i've made both kinds
> before and i prefer the flour and butter kind.

I usually make puddings with corn starch. The butter goes in at the end.


Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:00:58 AM1/12/21
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You should try making it from scratch some time. Those packaged pudding
mixes are way over priced. All they have is a bit of flour or
cornstarch, sugar and flavouring. You have to add the egg and the milk.
A minute or to extra prep time to get out and measure 3 ingredients,
and you end up with a much superior pudding.


jmcquown

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:22:24 AM1/12/21
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On 1/12/2021 10:15 AM, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> I looked up Chocolate Tapioca pudding and found this link:

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/219820/chocolate-tapioca-pudding/

If I was interested in making chocolate pudding and also using tapioca,
I'd probably give that one a try. :) Truth be told, I've never tasted
or used tapioca in anything.

Jill

jmcquown

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:28:25 AM1/12/21
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On 1/12/2021 12:38 AM, songbird wrote:
> Mom brought home five more bananas and we'll need
> to eat them up sooner rather than later and one way
> she will eat them is if they're sliced in chocolate
> pudding.
>
Okay, if she requires chocolate pudding to eat the bananas I wonder why
she keeps bringing them home. Ever thought of making Banana Pudding?

Jill

Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:39:58 AM1/12/21
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On 2021-01-12 11:22 a.m., jmcquown wrote:
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> If I was interested in making chocolate pudding and also using tapioca,
> I'd probably give that one a try. :)  Truth be told, I've never tasted
> or used tapioca in anything.
>
>

Tapioca is interesting stuff, but it seems to be one of those things
that people love or hate I love it, especially the pearl tapioca, which
is really hard to find these days. Minit tapioca is easy enough to
make. You put the milk and tapioca in a pot and let it sit for 10
minutes or so, and then add the sugar and beaten egg and then bring it
to a boil, stirring. Pearly tapioca is a little more involved. You
need to soak it in water over night, pour off the water and add milk and
sugar. Simmer it for a while and then temper eggs and add them and stir
until it thickens.

I use Minit tapioca as a thicken for fruit pies. I love the results.


Dave Smith

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Jan 12, 2021, 11:42:11 AM1/12/21
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I used to love vanilla pudding with banana.

jmcquown

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:00:19 PM1/12/21
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The banana pudding I know is allegedly a "Southern US" thing made with
vanilla pudding mix and mashed bananas with Vanilla Wafers lining the
pudding bowl. I've seen it but never actually tried it. If I brought
home bananas I'd simply eat bananas.

Jill

Gary

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:22:15 PM1/12/21
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jmcquown wrote:
> If I was interested in making chocolate pudding and also using tapioca,
> I'd probably give that one a try. :) Truth be told, I've never tasted
> or used tapioca in anything.

If you ever want to just give it a try, look for Kozy Shack tapioca
pudding in your fridge section of grocery store. It's pretty good and
fairly all natural ingredients too.

I buy one every few years. It's decent, just not something that I think
about often. (just added it to my grocery list though)



songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:27:05 PM1/12/21
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Taxed and Spent wrote:
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> What is it about the four and butter kind that you find preferable to
> the cornstarch version?

both the flavor and texture to me are better.


> Other thickeners: Tapioca flour? Arrowroot?

don't have any of those on hand.

at the moment the point is moot since she changed her
mind and we are just going to melt chocolate and dip
the bananas instead.

give it five minutes and it can change again.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:27:08 PM1/12/21
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uh, i didn't ask her to buy them, we already had some
green ones that were getting ripe enough, but for some
reason she thought to buy more. i've told her in the
past that she's buying too many, i can only eat one a
day and she might not eat any at all. we don't need
15 bananas. *SMH*

for me four a week is plenty.

not going to be making pudding now though, she changed
her mind.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:27:10 PM1/12/21
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jmcquown wrote:
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> If I was interested in making chocolate pudding and also using tapioca,
> I'd probably give that one a try. :) Truth be told, I've never tasted
> or used tapioca in anything.

it doesn't have any real flavor, it's just little lumps
like little bits of cooked pasta, but, well, pasta has
more flavor.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:27:11 PM1/12/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
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> I used to love vanilla pudding with banana.

yes, that's good too, i like about any pudding
including the traditional bread puddings i've
had.


songbird

songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:27:12 PM1/12/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2021-01-12 12:38 a.m., songbird wrote:
>> which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
>> corn starch based?
>>
>
> Fried ????

fry flour in oil is a common thickener. also called a
roux.


>> i have all the ingredients and i've made both kinds
>> before and i prefer the flour and butter kind.
>
> I usually make puddings with corn starch. The butter goes in at the end.

for chocolate or vanilla pudding with corn starch i'd
not put the butter in as you can't really taste it plus
i don't want the extra salt. Mom will put butter in
things because she really likes butter. i mean to the
point of putting butter on crackers before she puts
pate' on them or putting butter on a peanut butter
sandwich. uhg. no thanks! too much for me.


songbird

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 12, 2021, 1:32:44 PM1/12/21
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On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 11:39:13 PM UTC-6, songbird wrote:
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> Mom brought home five more bananas and we'll need
> to eat them up sooner rather than later and one way
> she will eat them is if they're sliced in chocolate
> pudding.
>
> songbird
>
Is banana bread an option?

Taxed and Spent

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Jan 12, 2021, 2:05:05 PM1/12/21
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Bananas Foster.

Ophelia

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Jan 12, 2021, 3:07:01 PM1/12/21
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"songbird" wrote in message news:ue51dh-...@anthive.com...
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dsi1

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Jan 12, 2021, 5:30:33 PM1/12/21
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Like gelatin, one does not use heat to cook carrageenan or agar-agar, heat is used only to dissolve the agents into solution.

dsi1

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Jan 12, 2021, 5:34:38 PM1/12/21
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You bet your sweet bippy that I burn the cream!
https://photos.app.goo.gl/HPNSEnsV9MVYuYBR8

Mike Duffy

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Jan 12, 2021, 5:47:13 PM1/12/21
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 14:34:35 -0800, dsi1 wrote:

> You bet your sweet bippy that I burn the cream!

Sorry. As pointed out in a parallel thread by T & S, I did not read the
entire reference. I stand corrected. (corrigé.)

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HPNSEnsV9MVYuYBR8


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 12, 2021, 5:53:57 PM1/12/21
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What if you were a monkey, and you accidentally bought plantains
instead of bananas? You'd be in a real pickle then, missy.

https://rathergood.com/2015/09/10/wrong-bananas/
>
> Jill

--Bryan

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 12, 2021, 6:54:28 PM1/12/21
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:00:19 PM UTC-6, j_mc...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> The banana pudding I know is allegedly a "Southern US" thing made with
> vanilla pudding mix and mashed bananas with Vanilla Wafers lining the
> pudding bowl. I've seen it but never actually tried it. If I brought
> home bananas I'd simply eat bananas.
>
> Jill
>
True "Southern" banana pudding is made with a cooked milk and egg mixture.
Ripe bananas are sliced and layered with vanilla wafers, the pudding, bananas,
vanilla wafers. The pudding tops the last of the banana and wafer layers then
the egg whites are whipped into a meringue, spread on top, and then baked.

But I have had 'banana pudding' made with vanilla pudding but if it's going to
be a 'quickie' version, instant banana pudding is better than vanilla pudding.

songbird

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Jan 12, 2021, 7:15:57 PM1/12/21
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itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
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> Is banana bread an option?

not really. she hates it. i'll eat about
anything. :)

she'll have some chocolate melted on one in
a little bit so that will help solve the problem
with three of them gone today. i just had one
for dinner.


songbird

Leo

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Jan 13, 2021, 2:25:18 AM1/13/21
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On 2021 Jan 12, , Gary wrote
(in article <rtkpch$r0m$1...@dont-email.me>):

> If you ever want to just give it a try, look for Kozy Shack tapioca
> pudding in your fridge section of grocery store. It's pretty good and
> fairly all natural ingredients too.
>
> I buy one every few years. It's decent, just not something that I think
> about often. (just added it to my grocery list though)

I have a 22 oz. container of KS chocolate and a 22 oz. container of KS
tapioca in my fridge right now. A great snack is a (your preferred size bowl)
with tapioca on the bottom and chocolate on the top. Add a Dole Tangerines in
Gel container as a side dish.
Unless you don´t like tapioca. Who doesn´t like chocolate? Kozy Shack is
a great commercial pudding.


Leo

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Jan 13, 2021, 2:33:34 AM1/13/21
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On 2021 Jan 12, , songbird wrote
(in article <r951dh-...@anthive.com>):

> for chocolate or vanilla pudding with corn starch i'd
> not put the butter in as you can't really taste it plus
> i don't want the extra salt. Mom will put butter in
> things because she really likes butter. i mean to the
> point of putting butter on crackers before she puts
> pate' on them or putting butter on a peanut butter
> sandwich. uhg. no thanks! too much for me.

I´m fond of butter or margarine on saltines when I think about it.

leo


dsi1

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Jan 13, 2021, 2:50:06 AM1/13/21
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I love those Dole Mandarins in Gel. You can get them cheap at Costco. I like tapioca pudding but not chocolate. I'll pick up a Kozy Shack product the next time that I can because I like living in a cozy shack.

Leo

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Jan 13, 2021, 3:09:22 AM1/13/21
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On 2021 Jan 12, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<5f4e8e74-22fc-4021...@googlegroups.com>):

> I love those Dole Mandarins in Gel. You can get them cheap at Costco. I like
> tapioca pudding but not chocolate. I'll pick up a Kozy Shack product the next
> time that I can because I like living in a cozy shack.

Oops, I misspoke. Tangarines? I meant "Mandarins in Gel". Ain´t they
great?


dsi1

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Jan 13, 2021, 5:32:03 AM1/13/21
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Well, mandarins are just fancy names for tangerines as far as I know. My daughter got her daughter some Mandarins in juice. It's the same thing except it's not in gel. Those are great too. I ate half of those cups. That was bad of me but I'd do it again if they just leave it lying about the place. They pretty much have to hide it. It's their fault.

Ophelia

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:08:59 AM1/13/21
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"dsi1" wrote in message
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LOL that is one of my sayings:)))

Leo

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:13:01 AM1/13/21
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On 2021 Jan 13, , dsi1 wrote
(in article<d192ce54-807a-4dc0...@googlegroups.com>):

> Well, mandarins are just fancy names for tangerines as far as I know. My
> daughter got her daughter some Mandarins in juice. It's the same thing except
> it's not in gel. Those are great too. I ate half of those cups. That was bad
> of me but I'd do it again if they just leave it lying about the place. They
> pretty much have to hide it. It's their fault.

I´ve eaten all the Dole gels that are sold here. Peaches in gel, mixed
fruit in gel, maybe "mumble" in gel and mandarins in gel. Mandarins are my
favorite. I have eaten Dole mandarins in juice which were good too.
Where I shop, those itty bitty 4 packs ain´t cheap, but they´re
delicious. I like mine cold from the fridge.


Ophelia

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:14:42 AM1/13/21
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That'll teach them not to leave them lying about:))

Gary

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Jan 13, 2021, 8:15:00 AM1/13/21
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On 1/12/2021 7:03 PM, songbird wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> ...
>> Is banana bread an option?
>
> not really. she hates it. i'll eat about
> anything. :)

I've had banana bread (as gifts) and loved it but never made it myself.

Once my daughter was over and I mentioned that I have banana that's too
ripe for me to eat. She suggested freezing it for banana bread once I
had enough to make it.

So I did. I put it in the freezer unpeeled. I figured that the peel was
a good wrapper. Would preserve it well even without a plastic wrap.

Next time, she saw that and laughed. "Dad, you're supposed to peel it
first and wrap in plastic."

Why would that be better? I still think the peel is a good freezer
wrapper. It's airtight.





dsi1

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Jan 13, 2021, 12:45:05 PM1/13/21
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That's unexpected. I thought only old and decrepit Americans said that. :)

dsi1

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Jan 13, 2021, 1:07:44 PM1/13/21
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Impeccable taste you got there. They're so refreshing! I used to get them at Costco. They were around 8 bucks for an assortment of 8 cups of mandarins in gel and 8 cups of peaches in gel. The peaches were alright but the mandarins were the pick of the litter. The next time I go to Costco, I'll get two cases and then all will be set right in this world.

jmcquown

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Jan 13, 2021, 1:53:53 PM1/13/21
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She's entitled to. You still have excess bananas to contend with. They
can be peeled, wrapped and frozen for later use.

Jill

Ophelia

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Jan 13, 2021, 3:12:05 PM1/13/21
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Nope an old and decreprit Yorkshire lass still says it:))))))


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 3:28:34 PM1/13/21
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Jan 13, 2021, 3:43:37 PM1/13/21
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On 1/13/2021 3:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> Nope an old and decreprit Yorkshire lass still says it:))))))
>

https://tinyurl.com/7gfcyx7 :))))))))

Ophelia

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"%" wrote in message news:rtnm1i$1en5$2...@gioia.aioe.org...

On 1/13/2021 3:11 PM, Ophelia wrote:
> Nope an old and decreprit Yorkshire lass still says it:))))))
>

https://tinyurl.com/7gfcyx7 :))))))))

====

LOLOL is that the best you can do?????????? LOL we have seen that so many
times, It is boring LOLOL

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:27:39 PM1/13/21
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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 1:33:34 AM UTC-6, Leo wrote:
>
> I´m fond of butter or margarine on saltines when I think about it.
>
> leo
>
I like butter on saltines, too. No margarine in this house, you'd have
to settle for butter if you were to visit.

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:30:50 PM1/13/21
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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 7:15:00 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> > itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > ...
> >> Is banana bread an option?
> >
> I've had banana bread (as gifts) and loved it but never made it myself.
>
It's an easy quick bread.
>
> Once my daughter was over and I mentioned that I have banana that's too
> ripe for me to eat. She suggested freezing it for banana bread once I
> had enough to make it.
>
> So I did. I put it in the freezer unpeeled. I figured that the peel was
> a good wrapper. Would preserve it well even without a plastic wrap.
>
> Next time, she saw that and laughed. "Dad, you're supposed to peel it
> first and wrap in plastic."
>
> Why would that be better? I still think the peel is a good freezer
> wrapper. It's airtight.
>
I've always peeled mine as it's just easier to dump the thawed 'nanners in the
bowl and not mess with peeling. But I don't think it hurts to leave it on.

Mike Duffy

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Jan 13, 2021, 6:41:30 PM1/13/21
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On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 11:14:35 +0000, Ophelia wrote:

> "dsi1" wrote

> Well, mandarins are just fancy names for tangerines as far as I know.

From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tangerine

The tangerine [...] is a group of orange-coloured citrus fruit consisting
of hybrids of mandarin orange (Citrus reticulata) with some pomelo
contribution.

[...] Under the Swingle system, tangerines are considered a group of
mandarin (C. reticulata) varieties.

[...] (and, in some jurisdictions, mandarin-like hybrids,


So, it ends up being a legal technicality. Probably some Chinese trade
regulation about using the word 'Mardarin'. You know what those Chinese
are capable of.

Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:13:22 PM1/13/21
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2021 at 12:47:15 AM UTC-6, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 00:38:59 -0500, songbird wrote:
>
> > which would you prefer flour fried with butter based or
> > corn starch based?
> Eww to both. How about egg yolk based. I've never heard of a roux
> based pudding.
>
Really, but let's not be hasty. Maybe it is a meat pudding, savory rather than sweet.
Almost like a gravy, but standalone. I'm not much of a fan of turkey, but the pan
drippings from a roasted turkey are sublime, and a stock made from the leg and
thigh bones would be rich with collagen, and a lightly browned roux made with a
low gluten wheat (cake) flour, if the whole thing were well strained...

I mean, pudding was originally a meat thing. If you added a fig, then the pudding
would be figgy.

--Bryan

Dave Smith

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Jan 13, 2021, 7:57:27 PM1/13/21
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One of my favourite after school snacks was Saltines with a bit of
butter and strawberry jam.


Bryan Simmons

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Jan 13, 2021, 8:20:55 PM1/13/21
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I was a pothead, and Hostess Cupcakes did the trick.

--Bryan

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 13, 2021, 11:09:06 PM1/13/21
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On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 6:57:27 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>
> One of my favourite after school snacks was Saltines with a bit of
> butter and strawberry jam.
>
I've eaten that more than once myself; YUM.

songbird

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Jan 14, 2021, 9:19:01 AM1/14/21
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i'd do that with peanut butter and jelly or just plain
peanut butter, but not butter and either of those. for
me butter and jam would happen on toasted bread.

we don't normally eat biscuits here, but when we do
i like those with butter most of the time and once in
a great while with butter and honey.

hmm, i guess i'm hungry as i haven't had breakfast
yet. :) wonder what i'll get into... :)


songbird

Gary

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:32:18 AM1/14/21
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songbird wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 6:57:27 PM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> One of my favourite after school snacks was Saltines with a bit of
>>> butter and strawberry jam.
>>>
>> I've eaten that more than once myself; YUM.
>
> i'd do that with peanut butter and jelly or just plain
> peanut butter,

A favorite late night snack for me is just 6-8 saltines with peanut butter.




Dave Smith

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Jan 14, 2021, 11:41:39 AM1/14/21
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How about Graham Wafers with butter and honey?

itsjoan...@webtv.net

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Jan 14, 2021, 2:57:55 PM1/14/21
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On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 10:32:18 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
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> A favorite late night snack for me is just 6-8 saltines with peanut butter.
>
I've eaten that more than once late at night and with a glass
of milk.

Ed Pawlowski

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Jan 14, 2021, 3:16:23 PM1/14/21
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That is often lunch for me. Usually with a touch of strawberry preserves

songbird

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Jan 14, 2021, 6:55:51 PM1/14/21
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Dave Smith wrote:
...
> How about Graham Wafers with butter and honey?

chocolate frosting. eating later at night is really bad
for your body, or i should say that it sure is bad for my
body. :)


songbird
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