Chicago Rib Shack hits back at its critics
Corey Richardson
Are critics out of touch with what the public like to eat?
Owners of the recently opened Chicago Rib Shack in Knightsbridge have
hit back at food critics, saying they are out of touch with what the
wider public want to eat.
In its opening weeks the restaurant attracted a "slating" from
high-profile food reviewers.
"This is, to put it simply, just so you don’t forget, terribly bad food.
And it’s terribly bad food from the bad past," wrote The Sunday Times'
AA Gill.
"As a restaurant, the food doesn't cut the mustard," says Will
Fulford-Jones of Time Out and Metro's Marina O'Loughlin declared, the
"food is almost uniformly ghastly".
It seems the underlying argument is that food and palates have evolved
over the past 10 years. People now seek a sophisticated, cleaner, more
wholesome dining experience as opposed to the caveman-like proportions
of sizzling beef and pork, dripping in sticky barbecue sauce and
deep-fried accompaniaments served up at the shack.
And yet, three months after opening, the 200-plus seat restaurant
continues to pack its tables, night after night.
Jon Yantin, director and co-owner of the shack, said there was a place
for American-style restaurants in London and turning over up to 1000
covers a day was testament to that.
"We weren't surprised by the reviews because of the style of the food we
serve, but what did surprise us is how vicious they were. We're not a
fine-dining restaurant and we never portayed ourselves to be one. You
have to put it into context.
"You come here for the ambience, the atmosphere, the service, the vibe.
The food is only one reason to visit. It's more about having a fun night
out than purely a dining experience."
Yantin said London was a restaurant haven, but critics were out of touch
with the wider public and what they really wanted to eat.
"It's all about fine dining these days. We are bombarded with messages
that we should be eating healthily on something that resembles a small
piece of uncooked fish.
"We are not this kind of restaurant. We're about big portions of fried
food. We're not saying eat it every night, but why not have some fun
once in a while."
Even before it opened there were big expectations for the restaurant,
primarily because it is a reinvention of the original and extremely
successful Chicago Rib Shack established in 1982 by Bob Payton. The
restaurant closed when its lease expired in December 1999. The nostalgic
element from those who remembered the shack of old was always going to
put pressure on the new arrival. But if anyone was going to revive the
restuarant, Yantin and his business partner Adrian Hartley, as former
employees of the original shack, were probably the best-placed to do so.
Yantin believed it gave them a greater insight into what the original
restaurant set out to achieve.
"Having worked at the original we were aware of the ethos, where it came
from, what it wanted to achieve," he said, that is to be the best
barbecue family dining restaurant in London.
"We knew we couldn't recreate exactly what had been before. What we've
given is a new menu that has the backbone of the original using
specialised meats and evolved it by injecting elements of its St Louis
origins and elements of local provenance."
The shack goes through four-to-five tonnes of meat a week and all of it
is organic, sourced from English suppliers. The beef hails from
Laverstock Park in Overton, Hampshire, while the pork is sourced from
Eastbrook farm in Wiltshire. The meat spices are all natural, with no
preservatives or additives and Yantin said all the food is hand-made and
prepared.
Although going organic wasn't a conscious decision, Yantin said
utilising ethical farming methods was more relevant and met the
restaurant's needs better than alternative options.
"This is where our marketing may have been misconstrued," he said.
"Because our meat is organic, people immediately assume its healthy.
This is not the case."
"In the end, we did our best. I'm not sure what the critics expected. We
did have some teething problems in the service area but they have be
recitfied now."
Whatever the critics expected, it seems the rib shack's customers don't
all share the same view, as shown by these patrons' comments.
"Have eaten there it is great. Will definitely revisit lots!" said one.
"I had such a great night at the 'shack'. Great vibe, great service,
perfect portions and there is something for everyone! It is what it is
... a rib shack," declared another, and finally "welcome back old
friend, you've been sorely missed".
BOB
"Corey Richardson" <C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
news:nnr0b4ta579jo3nrt...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:09:38 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Corey Richardson" <C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >>>> If anybody in AFB cares to respond to this crossposting idiot (with
>>>>>> a long history), please cut AFB out of the crossposts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should at least have 1 group free of this known fucktard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -sw
>>>>>>
>>>>Do a google search on that cory ass hole. He's a troll. Period. Oh,
>>>>he's
>>>>a CROSSPOSTING TROLL.
>>>>
>>>>BOB
>>>
>>> Yes, do a Google search and you'll see that I'm *not* a troll!
>>
>>How many people have asked you, politely, not to crosspost?
How many have asked you, not quite so politely, not to crosspost?
How many people have told you to quit your fucking crossposting?
Yet, you still continue to crosspost. That makes you a TROLL and a fucking
idiot.
Maybe you need to look up the word "Troll"? Your picture is there in
wikipedia, right next to the word Troll.
>
> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is trolling.
>
You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in
Corey Richardson
>
>"Corey Richardson" <C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
>news:nnr0b4ta579jo3nrt...@4ax.com...
>>
>> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
>>
>
>You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in
You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
in, and which I have removed before replying to you.
My post to which you replied was not cross-posted either yet *you*
insisted it were.
BOB
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:36:48 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Corey Richardson" <C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
>>news:nnr0b4ta579jo3nrt...@4ax.com...
>
>>>
>>> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
>>>
How many have asked you, not quite so politely, not to crosspost?
How many people have told you to quit your fucking crossposting?
Yet, you still continue to crosspost. That makes you a TROLL and a fucking
idiot.
Maybe you need to look up the word "Troll"? Your picture is there in
wikipedia, right next to the word Troll.
>>
>>You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in
>
> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
> in
>
I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still snipped
the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.
Corey Richardson
>> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
>> in
>>
>I guess my newsreader does it automatically.
I guess it just did it again and added alt.usenet.kooks too?
Billy
>I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still snipped
>the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.
Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there
are meds that can help you.
Have a good day, sugar...
BOB
have no control over it.
Wander what it'll do this time?
Billy
>Wander what it'll do this time?
You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.
Corey Richardson
[troll groups removed]
Go away, troll.
BOB
"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
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Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off of mine.
Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?
BOB
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>
>
> [troll groups removed]
>
> Go away, troll.
I thought that crossposting wasn't trolling. That's what you keep saying,
anyway.
>
I'll make a deal with you, cory-crossposter.
If I don't see any more crossposts from you (even replies that other people
quote), I'll quit.
If I do see you crossposting, I'll call out some big dogs. Your favorite
group(s) {which aren't in this post} will never be the same.
Deal?
BOB
"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>
>>Wander what it'll do this time?
>
> You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.
>
>
Nope. Doesn't work. He has morphed at least once.
Others quote him and his crossposts.
He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.
Corey Richardson
>
>"Billy" <Hereiam@hotmaildotcom> wrote in message
>news:1kv0b498gaog1kckv...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Wander what it'll do this time?
>>
>> You hit "ignore" and get on with your life. We are.
>>
>>
>
>Nope. Doesn't work. He has morphed at least once.
*NO* I have *not*!
>Others quote him and his crossposts.
Yes, they quote reasonable, on-topic cross-posts.
>He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.
I'm not being driven out of these groups by a troll like you. I'm not
going anywhere
Corey Richardson
>
>"Corey Richardson" <C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
>news:vkv0b4dekhfui66at...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:15:36 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> [troll groups removed]
>>
>> Go away, troll.
>
>I thought that crossposting wasn't trolling. That's what you keep saying,
>anyway.
Cross-posting on-topic subjects to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
What you do *is*!
>I'll make a deal with you, cory-crossposter.
>
>If I don't see any more crossposts from you (even replies that other people
>quote), I'll quit.
You'll quit trolling and cross-posting to irrelevant newsgroups?
>If I do see you crossposting, I'll call out some big dogs. Your favorite
>group(s) {which aren't in this post} will never be the same.
>
>Deal?
Go away, troll.
jmcquown
Bob, he's right. If you'd killfile the fool and stop replying (and
cross-posting the reply all over creation) maybe he'd go the hell away. Oh,
and notice I was able to delete the other newsgroups from this reply? It's
not difficult so don't blame Windows Mail for it.
Jill
Corey Richardson
wrote:
>Bob, he's right. If you'd killfile the fool and stop replying (and
>cross-posting the reply all over creation) maybe he'd go the hell away.
Why the *hell* should I go away? It's not as if I've posted stuff that
isn't about food and been nasty to people!
Billy
>Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off of mine.
>Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?
I don't really care what you think. Have a good one, sugar.
The only thing that gets "kicked" are people that will never affect my
life. I believe you are one of those people. And I meant that in
the nicest way, pumpkin'.
Billy
>He'll be gone soon enough and I'll quit.
Bob....I don't care what you do. Take a nap and you will feel better
later.
Billy
<C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote:
>He might be able to teach you a think or two,
Thanks for the offer, sugar....but I have no problem to think for
myself. Been doing it for years.
Billy
<C.Rich...@bugmenot.com> wrote:
>Billy, have you met Gregory Morrow yet? I think you two would get
>along great together. He might be able to teach you a think or two,
>even. He's pretty hard-core, S&M, trannie, crossdressing, etc...
>
>-sw
I am NOW confused....why would Corey Richardson be signing a message
with -sw Lucy..you got some
splainin to do.
Billy
wrote:
>Still need to work
I forgot to plonk....thanks for the reminder.
Archie Leach
>On Aug 23, 2:15 pm, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>> "Corey Richardson" <C.Richard...@bugmenot.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:iku0b41khnqdqtjfk...@4ax.com...> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
>> >>> in
>>
>> >>I guess my newsreader does it automatically.
>>
>> > I guess it just did it again and added alt.usenet.kooks too?
>
> Does AUK know Corey? If not, they're gonna just LUUURVE him, and
>he's not gonna like their attentions ONE LITTLE BIT!
Actually, we (tinw) think "BOB"'s bitchiness about crossposting and
trolling is more notable at this point.
sarah gray
news:hre3b45har40o7se8...@4ax.com:
heh.
--
Saerah (amused)
"Welcome to Usenet, Biatch! Adapt or haul ass!"
- some hillbilly from FL
Alie...@gmail.com
Well, whichever, it'll be fun to watch!
Dr. Hot"& easily amused"Salt
Lola Stonewall Riot
foamed:
> On Aug 24, 12:51 pm, Archie Leach wrote:
>> "Dr. HotSalt" wrote:
>> >On Aug 23, 2:15 pm, " BOB" wrote:
>> >> "Corey Richardson" wrote
>> >> > On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did
>> >> >>> *not* put in
>>
>> >> >>I guess my newsreader does it automatically.
>>
>> >> > I guess it just did it again and added alt.usenet.kooks too?
>>
>> > Does AUK know Corey? If not, they're gonna just LUUURVE him, and
>> >he's not gonna like their attentions ONE LITTLE BIT!
>>
>> Actually, we (tinw) think "BOB"'s bitchiness about crossposting and
>> trolling is more notable at this point.
>
> Well, whichever, it'll be fun to watch!
Might I just ask that the nominations for Mr. Fucknozzle (and "BOB")
hold off for another week? The ballot's gotten kind of interesting enough
as it is, I think...
--
________________________________________________________________________
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personal contact info in x-poasted subject lines:
"Plenty of people post under their real names and do not attempt to hide
their contact info. You are scared of being 'outed' because you are a
pathological abuser of usenet, and people rightly despise you for it.
You're afraid of being reported to the authorities or, better, visited
by a couple of guys with baseball bats. Other people don't have this
obsessive fear. Ward Hardman himself has posted plenty of personal
information - nothing that anyone else added was hidden in any way.
You're so fucking scared you've built up this whole sick mythology about
different categories of bad dudes who 'out' scum like you.
"Meanwhile you are the ugliest pigfucker in the universe. You are the
coward without ethics. You call me a 'newbie' - ha! what an asshole you
are. Those who want to remain anonymous do so. There is absolutely no
way you could identify me, not unless you had the sort of subpoena power
that only gets turned on for big-time terrorists. That's because I chose
to be anonymous. Some people don't. Only really stupid dicks like you
choose the sort of semi-anonymity which leaves you in constant fear.
"What a dickless wonder you are 'Snarky' you fat asshole."
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Lola Stonewall Riot
> "Corey Richardson" wrote...
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:36:48 -0400, " BOB" wrote:
>>>"Corey Richardson" wrote...
>>
>>>> On-topic cross-posting to relevant groups is *not* trolling.
>>>>
>>>How many people have asked you, politely, not to crosspost?
>
> How many have asked you, not quite so politely, not to crosspost?
How many of them have been asked, not politely at all, to fuck off?
> How many people have told you to quit your fucking crossposting?
How many of them have been told to quit their fucking net.KKKopping?
> Yet, you still continue to crosspost. That makes you a TROLL and a
> fucking idiot.
And yet, you continue to net.KKKop. That makes you a net.KKKop and a
fucknozzle.
> Maybe you need to look up the word "Troll"? Your picture is there in
> wikipedia, right next to the word Troll.
And here is you:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fucknozzle
1. fucknozzle 24 up, 3 down
A person or entity who [would be] a complete waste of time if they
weren't so unintentionally funny, delusional or lying.
Richard Nixon says he isn't a crook? What a fucknozzle!
>>>You seem to have snipped too much. I put it back in
>>
>> You added alt.religion.kibology to the cross-post, which I did *not* put
>> in
>
> I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still
> snipped the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.
Apparently, you're a kibologist who doesn't believe in x-poasting. I find
that highly ironic.
Lola Stonewall Riot
> "Billy" wrote...
>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:54:05 -0400, " BOB" wrote:
>>
>>>I guess my newsreader does it automatically. But, again, you still
>>>snipped
>>>the important parts of my reply. I put it back in for you.
>>
>> Bob...this is bothering you more than most. Let it go....there are
>> meds that can help you.
>>
>> Have a good day, sugar...
>
> Billy-Boy,
> Get off my leg. I know squertz kicked you off of his, but stay off of
> mine. Maybe greggy would like you on his leg?
Oh, is that where gregvk has scurried off to hide? Or is it some other
Greg?
Alie...@gmail.com
> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 19:31:22 -0500, Corey Richardson
>
> >Billy, have you met Gregory Morrow yet? I think you two would get
> >along great together. He might be able to teach you a think or two,
> >even. He's pretty hard-core, S&M, trannie, crossdressing, etc...
>
> >-sw
>
> I am NOW confused....why would Corey Richardson be signing a message
> with -sw Lucy..you got some
> splainin to do.
I CAN HAZ CLOO!
"Corey"'s profile says he's never posted before August this year.
Squertz OTOH has posted every month EXCEPT August.
Proposal: Corey/Squertz/Lucy should go away and talk to him/her/
itself and stop bothering the rest of us.
Agree/disagree/FOAD?
Dr. HotSalt