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itsjoannotjoann

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Nov 14, 2010, 1:59:28 PM11/14/10
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I bought a tube of tomato paste several months ago and somehow missed
the instructions that were printed as plain as can be on the box
"Refrigerate after Opening." I wanted to use it today but had one of
those 'uh-oh' moments when I spied the information on the box. It
looked and smelled ok but will it ruin my dish if I use it?? Will I
die of food poisoning??
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Jim Elbrecht

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Nov 14, 2010, 2:31:20 PM11/14/10
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:13:56 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In article
><a830f00e-4bb3-4737...@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,

>I'd use it. I never refrigerate ketchup, either.

I don't refrigerate catsup, trusting the salt and vinegar to
discourage spoiling. I'm not so sure about tomato paste, though.

I've gone to cans for paste. Use what I want & freeze the rest in 2
tbl ice cube trays. [baggies in the freezer door have cubes of tomato
paste, coconut milk, pesto and egg yolks- glad they are bright enough
colored to not need labels]

Jim

Miche

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Nov 14, 2010, 2:46:34 PM11/14/10
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In article <barbschaller-2379...@news.iphouse.com>,

Melba's Jammin' <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> In article
> <a830f00e-4bb3-4737...@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> itsjoannotjoann <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>

> I'd use it. I never refrigerate ketchup, either.

I agree. A lot of "refrigerate after opening" is CYA wording and not
necessary.

Miche

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Electricians do it in three phases

Chemiker

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Nov 14, 2010, 2:58:08 PM11/14/10
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:31:20 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:13:56 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
><barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>In article
>><a830f00e-4bb3-4737...@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
>> itsjoannotjoann <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a tube of tomato paste several months ago and somehow missed
>>> the instructions that were printed as plain as can be on the box
>>> "Refrigerate after Opening." I wanted to use it today but had one of
>>> those 'uh-oh' moments when I spied the information on the box. It
>>> looked and smelled ok but will it ruin my dish if I use it?? Will I
>>> die of food poisoning??

I use amore tomato paste in tubes. I keep it in the fridge. Even so,
the stuff under the cap discolors. I use it anyway, but I squeeze out
a quarter inch or so and discard same. Neer had any probs.

Alex

sf

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Nov 14, 2010, 2:59:08 PM11/14/10
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:31:20 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

> I've gone to cans for paste. Use what I want & freeze the rest in 2


> tbl ice cube trays. [baggies in the freezer door have cubes of tomato
> paste, coconut milk, pesto and egg yolks- glad they are bright enough
> colored to not need labels]

I've always used cans of paste and only recently bought a tube of
tomato paste (wow, expensive). Now that I have it, I'm wondering what
I was thinking.

To deal with leftovers, I take my smallest "ice cream" type scooper
which is a couple of tablespoons in volume and freeze scoops of the
remaining paste in the can (on a cookie sheet). After they freeze, I
put them into a Ziploc bag to keep for later use. Those little scoops
are a very handy size. I just take one out to throw into a pot of
soup or beans (I don't make vast quantities). If I don't have any
tomato paste on hand, I have been known to substitute a few squirts of
ketchup.

I've never thought about freezing egg yolks. Thanks for the idea!

--

Never trust a dog to watch your food.

Julie Bove

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Nov 14, 2010, 3:03:31 PM11/14/10
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"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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I would throw it out.


Kent

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Nov 14, 2010, 3:18:16 PM11/14/10
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"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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We would use it even though unrefrigerated.

Kent

Brooklyn1

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Nov 14, 2010, 3:36:34 PM11/14/10
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itsjoannotjoann <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> I bought a tube of tomato paste several months ago and somehow missed
> the instructions that were printed as plain as can be on the box
> "Refrigerate after Opening." I wanted to use it today but had one of
> those 'uh-oh' moments when I spied the information on the box. It
> looked and smelled ok but will it ruin my dish if I use it?? Will I
> die of food poisoning??

Mostly depends on how long you kept it at room temperature after
opening... those tubes of paste are not refrigerated at the store...
they say to refrigerate after opening more to maintain best product
quality than to prevent spoilage. Most products that aren't
refrigerated on the store shelf that say to refrigerate after opening
is only to extend best product quality... there is no more reason to
refrigerate those tubes of tomato paste after opening than a jar of
mustard or jam. If you will use it within a few months then you don't
need to refrigerate those tubes of paste... canned paste is a whole
nother case... they are not the same products. Also a lot has to do
with individual's personal food handling habits... one person can keep
an opened package of cheese in the fridge for a month and use some
every day, with someone else the same cheese will go all moldy within
a week... all I gotta do is check a women's fridge to know I'd not
want to eat her cooking or have sex with her... um, you didn't lose
the cap from that tube of paste, didja? LOL-LOL

James Silverton

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Nov 14, 2010, 4:44:25 PM11/14/10
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Jim wrote on Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:31:20 -0500:

>> In article
>> <a830f00e-4bb3-4737...@p20g2000prf.googlegroup


>> s.com>, itsjoannotjoann <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a tube of tomato paste several months ago and
>>> somehow missed the instructions that were printed as plain
>>> as can be on the box "Refrigerate after Opening." I wanted
>>> to use it today but had one of those 'uh-oh' moments when I
>>> spied the information on the box. It looked and smelled ok
>>> but will it ruin my dish if I use it?? Will I die of food
>>> poisoning??
>>
>> I'd use it. I never refrigerate ketchup, either.

> I don't refrigerate catsup, trusting the salt and vinegar to
> discourage spoiling. I'm not so sure about tomato paste,
> though.

> I've gone to cans for paste. Use what I want & freeze the
> rest in 2 tbl ice cube trays. [baggies in the freezer door
> have cubes of tomato paste, coconut milk, pesto and egg yolks-
> glad they are bright enough colored to not need labels]

I keep a tube of tomato paste and tubes of ground basil and anchovies in
the fridge for emergencies and they seems to keep indefinitely. If I
have canned tomato paste left over, I just freeze it in a small plastic
container. I will never be sufficiently organized to keep unforgotten
trays of excess.

--

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

Email, with obvious alterations: not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Kalmia

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Nov 14, 2010, 5:03:09 PM11/14/10
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I wouldn't take a chance. It's only - what- a buck's worth at most to
discard?

I buy it in cans - what I don't use gets frozen into what I call a
freezer cruller. I roll it in plastic wrap and can cut off what I
need another time.

Brooklyn1

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Nov 14, 2010, 5:53:44 PM11/14/10
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In over 50 years of cooking I've never yet opened a 6 ounce can of
tomato paste and not used it all... I've no more considered saving
part of a can of tomato paste as saving part of an onion... I can't
imagine anything one can cook that uses part of a small onion or part
of a 6 ounce can of tomato paste... anything that uses part of those
ingredients is NOT cooking, it's keyboard kooking... it's like anyone
who admits to owning a 1 quart pot and/or an 8" pan is a keyboard
kook, many magnitudes lower than a toys r us cook.

Dimitri

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Nov 14, 2010, 7:03:22 PM11/14/10
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"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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The risk is botulism which grows in an environment with no air - toss it.

Dimitri

Sqwertz

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Nov 14, 2010, 7:16:16 PM11/14/10
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And having it refrigerated won't help.

-sw

itsjoannotjoann

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Nov 14, 2010, 8:58:40 PM11/14/10
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Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.

Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.

Julie Bove

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Nov 14, 2010, 10:37:50 PM11/14/10
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"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
>
> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.

I do too but not very often.


Paco

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Nov 14, 2010, 11:48:19 PM11/14/10
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"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message

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> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
>
> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.

OH CWAP! So do I! AND an 8" saut� pan! (Which works quite well for 3 egg
omelets, btw)

Kalmia

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Nov 15, 2010, 10:14:35 AM11/15/10
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On Nov 14, 8:58 pm, itsjoannotjoann <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote:
> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
>
> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.

I think I use mine every day - make a bit of rice, make a bit of white
sauce, reheat leftovers, boil a bit of water, hardboil a couple of
eggs.

Chemiker

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Nov 15, 2010, 10:24:29 AM11/15/10
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I use small amounts when making certain dishes, especially sauces.
Some of those recipes call for only a Tbs or 2. Silly to open a 6 oz
can for 2 tbs. Squeeze it from the tube, and be done with it.

Alex

Chemiker

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Nov 15, 2010, 10:29:30 AM11/15/10
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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:48:19 -0500, "Paco" <pa...@taco.not> wrote:

>
>
>"itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>news:b0682dee-f428-43a7...@35g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
>>
>> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.
>

>OH CWAP! So do I! AND an 8" sauté pan! (Which works quite well for 3 egg
>omelets, btw)

Amen to that. The 8" non-stick with a reflective lid makes 3-4
sunnywide up eggs wonderfully, while the smaller base keeps the whites
from spreading all over the place. Slips right onto a plate, same
size/diameter every time.

Do my 1.5 qt copper saucepan and windsor pan count? Great for melting
a one-lb block of butter for baking....

Alex

blake murphy

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Nov 15, 2010, 12:46:25 PM11/15/10
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freak.

blake

blake murphy

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Nov 15, 2010, 12:48:33 PM11/15/10
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ah, but if a tablespoon in a recipe is good, six ounces must be twelve
times better!

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:48:19 -0500, Paco wrote:

> "itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> news:b0682dee-f428-43a7...@35g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
>> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
>>
>> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.
>

> OH CWAP! So do I! AND an 8" sauté pan! (Which works quite well for 3 egg
> omelets, btw)

yes, but you don't cook for six cats like sheldon does.

your pal,
blake

Brooklyn1

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Nov 15, 2010, 1:59:00 PM11/15/10
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No-Legs calling me a freak is like I won the Nobel Prize for
"Handsome"... the mick says from now on yoose all gotta call me
Adonis.

sf

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Nov 15, 2010, 2:07:45 PM11/15/10
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 12:49:46 -0500, blake murphy
<blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 23:48:19 -0500, Paco wrote:
>
> > "itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
> > news:b0682dee-f428-43a7...@35g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
> >> Thanks everybody, I appreciate ALL the answers.
> >>
> >> Oh dear, I do have a 1 quart saucepan that I actually use.
> >

> > OH CWAP! So do I! AND an 8" saut� pan! (Which works quite well for 3 egg

> > omelets, btw)
>
> yes, but you don't cook for six cats like sheldon does.
>

I think most of us own and use a one quart saucepan. We also don't
cook for an army even though there's only one or two of us at home.

Paco

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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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I was going to add that after I posted, but I didn't want to reply to my own
post (unlike one certain Pennsylvanian).

blake murphy

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Nov 16, 2010, 1:48:14 PM11/16/10
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no matter what handsomeness you might have (which i suspect is not much),
your ugly mind would wipe out any attraction.

blake

Brooklyn1

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On Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:48:14 -0500, blake murphy
<blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote:

Women fall at my feet... snort

blake murphy

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Nov 17, 2010, 11:25:57 AM11/17/10
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that just means they're drunk.

blake

Sqwertz

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Nov 19, 2010, 6:43:20 PM11/19/10
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On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:48:55 -0500, Paco wrote:

> I was going to add that after I posted, but I didn't want to reply to my own
> post (unlike one certain Pennsylvanian).

Are you referring to *me*, sockpuppet? I can easily replace you,
sockpuppet. I just bought 2 packages of 12 at Target for
$5.49/each.

-sw

blake murphy

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Nov 20, 2010, 12:35:48 PM11/20/10
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i believe he's referring to the incomparable andy, who makes it a
near-daily practice.

your pal,
blake

Sqwertz

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Nov 20, 2010, 1:06:12 PM11/20/10
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On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:35:48 -0500, blake murphy wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:43:20 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:48:55 -0500, Paco wrote:
>>
>>> I was going to add that after I posted, but I didn't want to reply to my own
>>> post (unlike one certain Pennsylvanian).
>>
>> Are you referring to *me*, sockpuppet? I can easily replace you,
>> sockpuppet. I just bought 2 packages of 12 at Target for
>> $5.49/each.
>

> i believe he's referring to the incomparable andy, who makes it a
> near-daily practice.

Dammit <sigh>.

That's what happens when your sock puppet is on a different
wavelength than yourself.

But in my defense, he has referred to me at that before. Hrmpf.

-sw

-sw

Paco

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"Sqwertz" <sqw...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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No, I would have referred to you as "one certain Pittsbooger". Blake got it
right.

Paco

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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message

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Bingo! Though with Andy's bipolar condition, I'm sure he thinks he is
replying to another person.

Paco

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"Sqwertz" <sqw...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:35:48 -0500, blake murphy wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:43:20 -0600, Sqwertz wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:48:55 -0500, Paco wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was going to add that after I posted, but I didn't want to reply to
>>>> my own
>>>> post (unlike one certain Pennsylvanian).
>>>
>>> Are you referring to *me*, sockpuppet? I can easily replace you,
>>> sockpuppet. I just bought 2 packages of 12 at Target for
>>> $5.49/each.
>>
>> i believe he's referring to the incomparable andy, who makes it a
>> near-daily practice.
>
> Dammit <sigh>.
>
> That's what happens when your sock puppet is on a different
> wavelength than yourself.
>

> -sw

Different wavelength, different ISP, different news provider, different news
reader, different state and different time zone. But, do you think Bobo,
sf, Stu and the like will buy all of that? Nah, I'm just a puppet!

-sw

Catmandy (Sheryl)

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Nov 20, 2010, 9:10:12 PM11/20/10
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On Nov 14, 3:03 pm, "Julie Bove" <julieb...@frontier.com> wrote:
> "itsjoannotjoann" <itsjoannotjo...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:a830f00e-4bb3-4737...@p20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>

> >I bought a tube of tomato paste several months ago and somehow missed
> > the instructions that were printed as plain as can be on the box
> > "Refrigerate after Opening."  I wanted to use it today but had one of
> > those 'uh-oh' moments when I spied the information on the box.  It
> > looked and smelled ok but will it ruin my dish if I use it??  Will I
> > die of food poisoning??
>
> I would throw it out.

Why? She said it looked and smelled ok. As long as it's not fermented
and not moldy, why should she throw it out?

Sqwertz

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Nov 20, 2010, 9:21:08 PM11/20/10
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Get your eubonics right. It's "Picksbooger", dammit.

-sw

Sqwertz

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Nov 20, 2010, 10:17:36 PM11/20/10
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Dude, I am an expert as these C3pU thingies. I can forge
anything! (if I had a real computer instead of this 233mhz laptop
with 4GB drive and IE6.0).

-sw

blake murphy

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Nov 21, 2010, 12:14:27 PM11/21/10
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all of your sock-puppets are turning against you. hell of a thing, ain't
it?

your pal,
blake

blake murphy

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Nov 21, 2010, 12:16:13 PM11/21/10
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i try not to consider what andy's thinking. it slows down the work.

your pal,
blake

Paco

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Nov 21, 2010, 11:01:47 PM11/21/10
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"Sqwertz" <sqw...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message

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Sorry. I've been out of the loop for a while.

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