Counterfeit Olive Oil?

[Nunya Bidnits]

There was a thread a while back about "counterfeit" extra virgin olive oil,
where it was apparently being diluted, or simply misrepresented as extra
virgin when it's not.

I think I have inadvertently purchased some of this fake/adulterated
product. It is Nannina Extra Virgin Olive Oil. I bought it in a 3 liter can
from Restaurant Depot. Price was very good... I don't remember how much
exactly, but I think 14-15 bucks, maybe less; maybe the price was too good
and that should have sent up a red flag. They have other choices there at
higher prices.

It is not the usual greenish color, but rather, it's the color of peanut
oil, but several shades darker. It has none of the characteristic
fruitiness, it just tastes like any other plain vegetable oil.

Label particulars:
Nannina All Natural Extra Virgin Olive Oil
Packed in Italy
-small print:
Imported by Nannina Foods
Melrose Park IL
Packed in Italy with selected oils from Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia.
SKU is 089397882628.

It's certainlyusuable oil, but not when I want the flavor and color of EVOO.
I have peanut oil and don't really need a substitute for it.

Live and learn.

MartyB

[Julie Bove]

"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
news:j9uuef$55b$1...@dont-email.me...

Do you know the purpose of it? Is it intended to be used as peanut oil
would be? If so this could be helpful. Or are they just trying to rip us
off?

[Bryan]

On Nov 15, 6:00 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-

The only veg oils I usually keep are peanut and EVOO. Peanut, to my
taste, is
totally neutral. Olive is a flavorant. Both are very healthy. I
used to sometimes buy corn oil,
just to fry tortillas. I find soy oil icky.
>
> MartyB

--Bryan

[merryb]

On Nov 15, 4:00 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-

Bummer!

[injipoint]

"Packed in Italy" is the giveaway. Back in the mid-90s, National Geographic
had a front cover picture of a ship connected bow and stern
to a warehouse in Italy. Oil pumped off one end, run through Italian
warehouse, pumped back onto ship = "Packed in Italy". Scam.

[Steve Pope]

Nunya Bidnits <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Label particulars:
>Nannina All Natural Extra Virgin Olive Oil
>Packed in Italy
>-small print:
>Imported by Nannina Foods
>Melrose Park IL
>Packed in Italy with selected oils from Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia.
>SKU is 089397882628.

I wouldn't conclude it's fake without a lab test, but it certainly
sounds suspicious.


Steve

[Feranija]

Are there any Europeans in the newsgroup who remember a tragedy in
several European countries because of "olive" oil imported from Spain
back in 1982 or '83 ?

[injipoint]

I'm not European but I remember it. Some 900 dead or disfigured in
Spain from memory.

It remains the largest food poisoning incident in European history
I think.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Or it is just a blend of mediocre oils. Some just has no flavor.

[Brooklyn1]

Steve Pope wrote:

>Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>
>>Label particulars:
>>Nannina All Natural Extra Virgin Olive Oil
>>Packed in Italy
>>-small print:
>>Imported by Nannina Foods
>>Melrose Park IL
>>Packed in Italy with selected oils from Italy, Spain, Greece, and Tunisia.
>>SKU is 089397882628.
>
>I wouldn't conclude it's fake without a lab test, but it certainly
>sounds suspicious.

Being a blend from four different countries should be the tip off that
it won't be superior... could be from several growers from each
country as well... probably a mish mosh of dregs not worth bottling
under the individual grower's labels.

[ViLco]

injipoint wrote:

> "Packed in Italy" is the giveaway. Back in the mid-90s, National
> Geographic had a front cover picture of a ship connected bow and stern
> to a warehouse in Italy. Oil pumped off one end, run through Italian
> warehouse, pumped back onto ship = "Packed in Italy". Scam.

You don't even need that: when one writes "packed in italy" on the label, he
can legally use oil from anywhere place in the world.

[ViLco]

injipoint wrote:

>> Are there any Europeans in the newsgroup who remember a tragedy in
>> several European countries because of "olive" oil imported from Spain
>> back in 1982 or '83 ?

> I'm not European but I remember it. Some 900 dead or disfigured in
> Spain from memory.

I was just 10 or alike so I don't remember, but the figure is really huge.

> It remains the largest food poisoning incident in European history
> I think.

Probably yes, I can't remember anything killing more then a hundred.

[sf]

Same with wine. When it says "bottled by", you have no guarantee
about which vineyard the grapes came from.


--
All you need is love. But a little chocolate now and then doesn't hurt.

[Nunya Bidnits]

My suspicion is that it's olive oil, but not EVOO. However the color is a
confounding issue.

[Miche]

In article <j9uuef$55b$1...@dont-email.me>,

Soak a wick (a piece of cotton cloth will do) in the oil and light it.
If it doesn't light, won't stay lit, or burns smoky, it's not pure olive
oil.

And if it isn't, the people selling it need to know.

Miche

--
Electricians do it in three phases

[Miche]

In article <j9vr3p$iqs$1...@dont-email.me>,

One European country -- Spain -- but hundreds of people died.

[Ed Pawlowski]

http://divinetastes.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-color-measure-of-quality-in-olive.html
Perhaps the most important factor determining the color of the olive
oil is the time of harvesting of the olives. This is due to the fact
that green olives have higher chlorophyll content (the green color we
seem to love so much). As the olive matures depending on it variety it
turns something like this:

Mission Variety: Pale Green to Straw (early season), light pink to
dark red, dark purplish, black, light pink to dark red, dark
purplish(late season).

Sevillano Variety: Slight blush stem end, half or more dark red,
straw, slight blush stem end.

As you can see (I wish I had pictures) there are no black olives and
green olives, just olives that turn black after green and sometimes
greenish again –depending on the variety. Yet another misconception
some people have about “black olives” and “green olives” .

Chlorophyll (derived from ancient Greek: chloros = green and phyllon =
leaf) is of course only one of the main pigments in olive oil. Another
main pigment is Carotenoids which provides it with the yellow red
color.

As the olive ripens, the combination of the different pigments such as
Chlorophyll and Carotenoids as well as other pigments changes, from
higher proportion of chlorophyll to a lesser one. As a result so does
that olive oil’s color change. If pressed early in the season, the
olive will be dark green. As the olive matures the color of its juice
changes to a paler one.

There are many more reasons that affects the colors of the olive oil
such as the weather, cultivar and pressing method etc. However, I
believe the season (early/late) to be the most dominant factor in the
color of the olive oil.

[sf]

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:31:14 -0500, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

> http://divinetastes.blogspot.com/2007/04/is-color-measure-of-quality-in-olive.html

Thank you for posting that.

[Nunya Bidnits]

> greenish again -depending on the variety. Yet another misconception

> some people have about "black olives" and "green olives" .
>
> Chlorophyll (derived from ancient Greek: chloros = green and phyllon =
> leaf) is of course only one of the main pigments in olive oil. Another
> main pigment is Carotenoids which provides it with the yellow red
> color.
>
> As the olive ripens, the combination of the different pigments such as
> Chlorophyll and Carotenoids as well as other pigments changes, from
> higher proportion of chlorophyll to a lesser one. As a result so does
> that olive oil's color change. If pressed early in the season, the
> olive will be dark green. As the olive matures the color of its juice
> changes to a paler one.
>
> There are many more reasons that affects the colors of the olive oil
> such as the weather, cultivar and pressing method etc. However, I
> believe the season (early/late) to be the most dominant factor in the
> color of the olive oil.

That's interesting, although the oil I have is no shade of green, but as I
said, more the color of a darker shade of peanut oil. If anything it's a
shade of light brown.

But then looking at the cited article I suppose this could also be the
result of blending multiple colors.

Regardless, this alleged EVOO has none of the characteristic taste or
fragrance, but rather is quite neutral.

Anyway that was interesting stuff.

MartyB

[sf]

I thought what Miche had to say about lighting it was interesting. I
should use EVOO in place of lamp oil the next time I want to fill my
glass candles. One less thing to buy.

[Nunya Bidnits]

It passes the test. Nevertheless, it doesn't taste or smell like EVOO. It's
olive oil, just not EVOO.

I doubt Restaurant Depot is going to care much about the complaints of one
very low volume buyer.

MartyB

[Stu]

Marty, what they are selling is just a poor quality blend.

[LuvsH...@aol.com]

Hello. I have bought NaNinna EVOO many times, but always in the 33.8 oz bottles. I have found it to be delicious with a nice fruity flavoring. I would NEVER buy any olive oil by "bulk", such as a 3-gallon can and nEVER in a plastic container. That is the worst, since they warn about contaminants from the plastic actually leeching into the oil. When i buy my oil, whatever the brand, i will open it and finger-taste as soon as i get it home. So far i have had 'good luck" i guess.

[Nunya Bidnits]

wrote in message
news:3cf9902e-0153-4295...@googlegroups.com...

Old post (4 years!) but still... I was talking about 3 liter
metal containers... the very typical container so common with
olive oil. I'd never buy 3 gallons.

MartyB

[playas]

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> I'd never buy 3 gallons.
>
> MartyB

Not enough for you to bathe in, greaseball?

ESAD.

[Nunya Bidnits]

On 11/20/2015 12:31 PM, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Old post (4 years!)

BTW, this group is hereby KILLED. Li'l boner was right! Yo poor slobs
shoulda LISTENED!

MUAHahahahaHAA! You DIE!

So all of you go away. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.
BEGONE!

I mean it.

!! Come on, man.

Now.

Grrr....

Drat. You aren't moving very fast.

You folks already heard about The Agonizingly Slow Groupkillas, didn't ya.
Over in RFC.

You aren't skeered any more, are ya.

Well crap.

Yeah, ok, we are indeed agonizingly slow at killing groups and we were
found
out. Exposed. We admit this.

OK then. Take your time but get the hell out. When you're ready No rush,
but hurry up.

And you're still killed. I mean it.

On Behalf of The Agonizingly Slow Groupkillas® Cabal (TINASG®C),

MartyB
Supreme Exalted Leader and President for Life
The Agonizingly Slow Groupkillas® Cabal (TINASG®C)
Member #007 (license to groupkill)
(adv)
You too can become an Agonizingly Slow Groupkilla®! It's FREE! You are a
member when you say you are. Just pick any title at all you want to claim
for yourself, and assign yourself a any member number you like. Except
mine,
of course.

[sf]

Now we know that Restaurant Depot doesn't vet what they sell.
Buyer beware.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/13/italys-slippery-extra-virgin-olive-oil-scandal.html

--

sf

[Hidalgo]

Sqwertz wrote:
> The Fox and the Grapes.
>
> -sw

The woman stalker whom no one will talk to:

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>> Omelet wrote:
>
>> He hates me 'cause I never slept with him...
>
> He hates himself because he is all he has to sleep with
> I don't know, sometimes he used to seem normal, then he went petty
> trough vindictive and now I just shun contact. I have enough crazies to
> deal with in my world without encouraging those who refuse to take their
> meds.

For the record, I never once even considered sleeping with you. And
you know that. You're the one who somehow got the idea that I was
going to move in with you - and you posted that to RFC just out of the
total blue.

After having met you twice at casual austin.food gatherings 2 or 3
years ago and not giving you any indication that there was any sort of
romantic interest in the least, you somehow twisted that into MY
MOVING IN WITH YOU?

That was just way too Psycho for me. I sat there at stared at the
screen for at least 15 minutes wondering, WTF? That was just way too
spooky. I've met weird, semi-psycho women before but you win, hands
down. Mapi of austin.general still holds the male title, but at least
he announced his psychosis right there lying on the floor of the bar
at B.D. Reilly's rather than romantically obsessing over me for 2
years.

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw
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[Sqwertz]

On 11/21/2015 8:42 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> The Fox and the Grapes.
>
> -sw

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Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

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I'd prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

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[el pie de Onate]

Hidalgo wrote:
> First president to try to make a difference in health care
>
> President Obama was the first president to promise and try to make health care more affordable to low incomes with Obama Care. He kept his promise.
>
> Did other presidents? No. They promised it before they got elected, but
> did they even try? Once again no. Obama did so he is the best president.

I have, on at least three prior occasions, written posts that delve into

the “alleged” lurid past of one of our former presidents, George Herbert

Walker Bush (GHWB), the current but ailing patriarch of the Bush Family

Dynasty – I refer to them as the Bush Family Crime Syndicate, certainly

not in terms of endearment – but rather more like the Mafia Godfather who

prepares his sons to take over the family business upon his death. This

particular post references an article by Stew Webb, a contributor of

Veterans Today.

In his life-time, George H. W. Bush (GHWB) has controlled every

clandestine (hidden from view) and secret organization/operation within

the arsenal of the United States government as either 1) Director of the

CIA, 2) Vice President to Ronald Reagan (who was an unwitting puppet to

the Bush controlled cabal – GHWB secretly gave Reagan poisons that

hastened his fall into Alzheimer’s Disease and evidence suggests he

helped plan Reagan’ attempted assassination by John Hinckley, whose

family were close friends of the Bush family – a coincidence?) and 3)

ultimately as President of the United States before Bill Clinton took

office.