Strange bananas

[Dave Smith]

We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
strange core.

[Bruce]

So very fascinating, Dave.

Did these tough banana cores cause your stools to become somewhat firmer?

[Bryan Simmons]

Maybe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmAlxc7_88

--Bryan

[dsi1]

They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.

https://www.thespruceeats.com/introduction-to-plantains-2137973

[Bryan Simmons]

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:58:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
> > into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
> > there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
> > hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
> > sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
> > hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
> > strange core.
> They are probably plantains.
>

Plantains, aka The Wrong Bananas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmAlxc7_88

--Bryan

[GM]

Lol...

Is there anyone on the planet more *white* than Officer "Dead Man Walking" Dave Smit'...

When he finds out that plantains are especially popular with "the little brown peoples" he'll have a FIT...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>

I have a hard time believing Dave cannot tell the difference in the taste of bananas
and plantains.

[dsi1]

My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.

[GM]

dsi1 wrote:

> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 9:44:50 AM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:58:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
> > > > into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
> > > > there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
> > > > hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
> > > > sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
> > > > hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
> > > > strange core.
> > > >
> > > They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele
> > > stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.
> > >
> > I have a hard time believing Dave cannot tell the difference in the taste of bananas
> > and plantains.
> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.

"Interesting"...

They are regularly in stock at the local Target, Whole Foodz, Trader Joe's, Mariano's (Kroger - owned)... saw some at my
local small "college town" Target just yesterday when I picked up a prescription...

The local Valli Produce International Fresh Market has a number of varieties in stock, many Mexicans, Africans, and
Caribbean folk shop here:

http://www.valliproduce.com/

OH LOOK! Plantains are 99 cents per pound in their "Weekly Ad 6/21/2023 - 6/27/2023" - should I send you some, David...???

https://shop.valliproduce.com/weekly-ad/?circularstoreidentifier=5NSX6TBNEP77AKGIK7YSNETF38ZCR4I3O19ERP&circularID=88214

This is Evanston IL USA in the center of that "Cold White - Man Amerikkkan Mainland" you are always bagging on about...

😎 <<<== ALWAYS "glad" to give David a "helping hand"...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.

[GM]

itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> >
> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 9:44:50 AM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> > >
> > > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele
> > > > stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.
> > > >
> > > I have a hard time believing Dave cannot tell the difference in the taste of bananas
> > > and plantains.
> > >
> > My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.
> >
> They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.

Next David will tell us that " most people don't have access to pineapple - unless they live in the tropics..."

--
GM <<<==== rolling eyes

[Cindy Hamilton]

Not tropical here. Plantains at the grocery store every time I go
there.

Again, you know jack shit abouut the mainland.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:59:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 9:44:50 AM UTC-10, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> >
>> > On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele
>> > > stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.
>> > >
>> > I have a hard time believing Dave cannot tell the difference in the taste of bananas
>> > and plantains.
>> >
>> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.
>>
>They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.

I don't think I've ever seen one here in the subtropics.

[S Viemeister]

They're available in NJ, too. And Scotland.

[Dave Smith]

These were bananas. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the taste
of the outer parts but there was that core, about 1/3 of the fruit that
I could cut off and eat, or simply pull it away from that core. I have
been eating bananas all my life and have never seen this.

[Dave Smith]

You guessed wrong again. We can get plantains here. These were bananas.

[Hank Rogers]

A canadian policeman, like officer dave may have never seen a
plantain.

A carribean policeman would know. A plantain can be cooked up,
and is much like a "sweet" potato. It is NOT a fucking banana.

[Hank Rogers]

I think Tojo nailed it. Officer dave had a plantain and
expected a banana.

He is likely hoarding trash to spread at the grocery store that
sold him the goddamn plantains.

[GM]

Our Unca should consider hisself vewy VEWY lucky that Officer Dave don't live near Da Rock...

Otherwise the Tojo Family would have voluminous rubbish constantly dumped upon their
condo and their chicken - friendly parking lot...

--
GM

[dsi1]

I'll take your word for it.

[Bruce]

If one never guessed wrong, it wouldn't be called guessing.

[Bryan Simmons]

In early August of 2016, I got lost in Fajardo, PR, after I left the
AirBnB to look for beer. Finally, after hours, I spotted a
Caribbean policeman, and asked for help. He was unable to
speak *any* English, but I remembered a flashing red light at
an intersection near the AirBnB that was the only one that I'd
seen. I had been able to communicate that I was lost, and
finally I said, "Rojo," while making a flashing gesture with my
hand.

He recognized what I was trying to get across, and suddenly
grinned and directed me to the intersection, from where I
could find my way back. That's my Caribbean policeman
story.

I didn't like Puerto Rican cuisine. Too many damned
plantains.

--Bryan

[Bryan Simmons]

Perhaps, like the little monkey, he will starve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SmAlxc7_88

--Bryan

[GM]

"By 1966, Jayne Mansfield had degenerated into alcoholism, drunken brawls, and performing at cheap burlesque shows. By
July 1966, she started living with her attorney, Sam Brody, who had frequent drunken brawls with her and mistreated her
eldest daughter, Jayne Marie. Sam's wife, Beverly Brody, filed for divorce, naming Mansfield the "41st other woman" in
Sam's life...

Jayne once visited the LA Farmer's Market with a friend. When Jayne took off her sunglasses to check some tomatoes, she
revealed a huge and painful - looking black eye. "Jayne! What happened!?", the friend exclaimed. "Sam beats me, and I love it!",
she replied to her shocked pal...

When visiting the North of England to perform in seedy working class "gentleman's clubs" at that time, Jayne wore micro - mini
skirts without hosiery, revealing numerous bruises on her legs...

Her wardrobe for these shows featured a gold mesh dress with sequins to cover her nipples and pubic region. That controversial
sheer dress was referred to as "Jayne Mansfield and a few sequins"...

One observer said, "When Jayne moved, the sequins moved - fully exposing nipples and pubic hair...". A filmed version of this
show was condemned by the Catholic Legion of Decency, and thus banned in the USA...

In San Francisco for the city's 1966 Film Festival, Mansfield and Brody visited the Church of Satan to meet Anton LaVey, the
church's founder. He awarded Mansfield a medallion and the title "High Priestess of San Francisco's Church of Satan". The
media enthusiastically covered the meeting and the events surrounding it, identifying her as a Satanist and romantically
involved with LaVey. That meeting remained a much-publicized and oft-quoted event both of her life and
of the history of the Church of Satan...

After the gruesome 1967 Lousiana car crash that killed both Jayne and Brody, LaVey went on the talk show circuit, claiming that
he had put a death curse on both of them after Jayne cut their affair short, and that he was responsible for the crash...

Two weeks before her mother's death in 1967, Jayne's 16-year-old Jayne Marie accused Sam Brody of beating her. The girl's
statement to officers of the Los Angeles Police Department the following morning implicated her mother in encouraging the
abuse, and days later a juvenile court judge awarded temporary custody of Jayne Marie to Paul's uncle William W. Pigue
and his wife Mary..."

--
GM

[GM]

It sucks - even the Ricans I know call it "poor food"...

--
GM

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Personally, I don't think you've missed anything by not seeing them. My personal
opinion, if you haven't eaten one, you've not missed much. But somebody must
like them for them to readily available.

[Hank Rogers]

Damn yoose. Show some respect.

I get all my news about da mainland here!

Shit dat's trending and shit that ain't.

[Hank Rogers]

It was like with Popeye. The store guys saw you coming, so they
grabbed the shittiest stuff they had and worked hard to get the
shit on the shelf before you came in.

[Hank Rogers]

Officer dave, you'll have to sue them. Canada has lots of laws
protecting police officers.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 16:21:01 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 4:36:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:59:02 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>> >>
>> >> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.
>> >>
>> >They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.
>> >
>> I don't think I've ever seen one here in the subtropics.
>>
>Personally, I don't think you've missed anything by not seeing them. My personal
>opinion, if you haven't eaten one, you've not missed much. But somebody must
>like them for them to readily available.

Maybe you can make something ethnic (meaning non Anglo) with them.
Like a curried banana dish. Or something Surinamese.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Perhaps Bruce sees them under the name "cooking bananas".

They're starchy and often prepared fried. Apart from their use
in African, Caribbean, Central American, and northern South American
cuisines, "fried" can pick up a lot of fans.

Yelp even lists "top 10 best fried plantains in Ann Arbor". The
results are Cuban, Mexican, Jamaican, and African restaurants.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Janet]

In article <8c027b8b-842b-498e-9013-
add95c...@googlegroups.com>, dsi...@hawaiiantel.net
says...

Really? You think tropical produce is only available to
people who live in tropical countries?


Janet UK

[jmcquown]

On 6/24/2023 3:44 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 1:45:32 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:58:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>> We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
>>> into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
>>> there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
>>> hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
>>> sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
>>> hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
>>> strange core.
>>>
>> They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele
>> stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.
>>
> I have a hard time believing Dave cannot tell the difference in the taste of bananas
> and plantains.

Too true, Joan!

Jill

[jmcquown]

dsi1 really needs to stop guessing. Plantains are readily available at
the supermarkets. They might not as easily found where Dave lives but
I'm not going to guess about that. Also, plantains are *not* eaten raw.

Jill

[jmcquown]

He loves to guess and he's usually wrong. Someone needs to explain why
I can find dragon fruit, papaya, mangoes and pineapples at the
supermarket even though they are not grown anywhere near here.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

They are not available in all stores here, but they are available
I ate the last of the weird bananas last night. My wife has picked up
another bunch and I am counting on them being normal.

I found the way to deal with the spined ones. I sliced it down the
middle and ran a spoon down along the core. The harder core popped out
and the rest of the fruit was delicious, just the way a banana should be.

This is the one and only time I have encountered this in bananas. Given
the reaction, it looks like no one else has ever seen it.

[Thomas]

If it tasted like a banana it was.

[Cindy Hamilton]

No one here. However:

https://whatbanana.com/why-do-some-bananas-have-a-hard-center/

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Ed P]

Could this be what you had?

https://9gag.com/gag/aV7R1Z2

[Dave Smith]

Thanks. I must have used the wrong words to search. It is interesting
to read that it is quite common. I have been eating bananas all my life
and this is the first time I have ever encountered one.

At least I know how to deal with them now. Slice the banana lengthwise
and then use a spoon to scoop it out.

[Dave Smith]

LOL

[Graham]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVqYRse1O44

[Bruce]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 09:49:13 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Sisterhood :)

[dsi1]

I certainly have seen straight bananas. They're better than non-straight banans.

https://hawaiiancrown.com/apple-bananas/

[Michael Trew]

On 6/24/2023 5:09 PM, GM wrote:
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:

>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>

>>> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.
>>>

>> They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.
>

> Next David will tell us that " most people don't have access to pineapple - unless they live in the tropics..."

Plantains are a rare sight around here in any store. "Fresh" pineapples
are pretty gross by the time they get up here. They are either
under-ripe or already fermenting (sometimes both). I only buy them
canned fresh. I probably sound like Popeye, but it's true.

[GM]

What a SLUR to the GAY bananas - AND today is GAY PRIDE DAY, no less...!!!

:-( <=== GM crying about dsi1 the gay banana HOMOPHOBE

--
GM

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-06-25, jmcquown wrote:

> He loves to guess and he's usually wrong.
> Someone needs to explain why I can find

> dragon fruit, papaya, mangoes and pineapples [...]

There is an Asian place here with
aquariums growing water lilies.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-06-25, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 6/24/2023 5:09 PM, GM wrote:
>> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-5, dsi1 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.
>>>>
>>> They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an anomaly.
>>
>> Next David will tell us that " most people don't have access to pineapple - unless they live in the tropics..."
>
> Plantains are a rare sight around here in any store.

Your area is too white to have interesting food.

There. I said it.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-06-25, Dave Smith wrote:

> This is the one and only time I
> have encountered this in bananas.

Were there little seeds within
the hard part?

[dsi1]

My guess is that the pineapples sold there are pretty awful. Ditto for mango and other tropical fruits.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/y2KbWUCm3yrALv4UA

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-06-24, Bruce <neenern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
>> into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
>> there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
>> hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
>> sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
>> hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
>> strange core.
>
>

> So very fascinating, Dave.
>
> Did these tough banana cores cause your stools to become somewhat firmer?


This is where Dave says, "I don't know. Feel yourself."
Too easy. ;)

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-06-24, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> My guess is most people don't have access to plantains - unless they live in the tropics.

They are often available in the store where I shop. I've always been
meaning to try them, fried. There may be a thousand recipes on the net.
Someday...but the days are running out.
Hot plus banana flavor just doesn't click well in my head except for
banana bread.

[Dave Smith]

Maybe you should be looking in better stores or different seasons.
Learn to pick a good one. Pull on one of the centre leaves and it should
come out easily. Fresh pineapple, even a not so good one, is infinitely
better than canned. Canned is fine for Jell-O salads and pineapple
upside down cake, but fresh pineapple is always much tastier than canned.

[Bruce]

We were able to buy good mangos in the Netherlands. They came from
Africa. So why would Eat Liverpool not be able to buy good mangos?

[Dave Smith]

I doubt that it is whiter than the area I live in but I can get plantains.

[Dave Smith]

No. The hard part was down the centre where there would normally be seeds.

[dsi1]

Well, when you do try it, let me know. I can't get my paws on those things. Actually, there's not much reason for me to get my paws on plantains anyway. Da Hawaiians use them to make pasteles or pastele stew. I don't make pasteles. If I made pastele stew, I'd probably leave the plantains or green bananas out. It's delicious without it. Plantains seem like a big bother to use.

[Dave Smith]

I can get mangoes in most stores here. Nice ripe ready to eat
mangoes.... not so much. Quite frankly, fresh mangoes are usually such a
crap shoot that I tend to grab bags if frozen mango. I know they will
not be as good as a nice fresh mango, but they are usually a damned
sight better than most of the mangoes we can get.

[Bruce]

There are different types of white areas. Differing in education
levels and wealth, for instance.

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2023-06-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> My guess is that the pineapples sold there are pretty awful. Ditto for mango and other tropical fruits.

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/y2KbWUCm3yrALv4UA

Now, you have to get the giant "nut" out of it. Mangoes are a scam!

[dsi1]

Mangos are totally awesome but that seed is quite the fly in the ointment. It shows that God does not want us to get too cocky.

[Dave Smith]

Buy the bags of frozen mango. There are closer to nicely ripe than 95%
of the mangoes you buy fresh. There is no skin to peel and no pit. It's
actually much better value.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 16:01:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 12:54:52 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2023-06-25, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> > My guess is that the pineapples sold there are pretty awful. Ditto for mango and other tropical fruits.
>>
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/y2KbWUCm3yrALv4UA
>> Now, you have to get the giant "nut" out of it. Mangoes are a scam!
>
>Mangos are totally awesome but that seed is quite the fly in the ointment.

Yes, they're in my fruit top 3.

>It shows that God does not want us to get too cocky.

Like a bone in a T bone steak.

[Bruce]

Fresh mangos are great and easily available here when in season. No
frozen stuff needed, except out of season maybe.

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-06-25, Dave Smith wrote:

> No. The hard part was down the centre
> where there would normally be seeds.

At the stem end or the flower end?

[Ed P]

We have a store near me that has a machine to cut them. You choose the
pineapple you want, open door and place into machine, put a container in
the bottom.
Push button and it cuts off top and bottom, takes out the center core,
cuts away the outside, drops it into the container. Takes about 15
seconds.

Same as this one
https://tinyurl.com/3kr343e8

[Dave Smith]

All the way down the middle.

[Dave Smith]

That's a great idea, but I am assuming that if you choose the pineapple
and stick it in the machine you are obligated to buy the one you choose.
We have several stores around here that peel and core pineapples and
sell then in those plastic containers. It is nice to be able to see the
colour of the peeled fruit so you can choose one that is not too pale
and in need of ripening, or too yellow and over ripe.

[Bryan Simmons]

Yeah, Dave, if you choose it and "stick it in," some obligations
are in order. Maybe you should learn how to choose. As a
famous fellow Canadian said, "Try to be sure right from the
start."

--Bryan

[Sqwertz]

On Sun, 25 Jun 2023 18:12:25 -0400, Dave Smith wrote:

>> Plantains are a rare sight around here in any store.  "Fresh" pineapples
>> are pretty gross by the time they get up here.  They are either
>> under-ripe or already fermenting (sometimes both).  I only buy them
>> canned fresh.  I probably sound like Popeye, but it's true.

"Canned Fresh" is a oxymoron.

Just look for the most yellow tints on pineapples. If not 1/5
yellowing nodules (usually towards the bottom), don't buy them.
Pulling on leaves never works for me. They've been dirt cheap
here more often than not and I'll pick one up when I see a good
one. I used some fresh PA last night for my burnt dinner.

They don't take any longer to get to Podunk, OH than they do to
Buffalo, Sacramento, or Austin.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

Floridiots! Who can't carve a pineapple! I HATE it and would
love one of these machines - Automation without the canning.

-sw

[Bryan Simmons]

I hate carving pineapples too--except that it usually makes my
wife very happy--but the machines waste too much.
>
> -sw

--Bryan

[Ed P]

It sells a lot of pineapples! People seem to like doing it. They always
have plenty of them stacked up to choose from.

[Sqwertz]

Yes, very wasteful. Unless they're really cheap like $1.50/ea.
My last one was free.

I carve mine according to Fibbonaci - circular patterns, 8 spirals
diagonal. If you go the wrong direction there's 13 spirals - much
more work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo_nEBCKOUs

The same pattern is visible in many other fruits banana,
cantaloupe, cucumber, and flowers, especially.

Thats is a 100% ripe pineapple, BTW. All yellow. Can't get that
here.

-sw

[Sqwertz]

> It sells a lot of pineapples! People seem to like doing it. They always
> have plenty of them stacked up to choose from.

How much are pineapples there? They run from $1.50 to $3.50 tops
here. $1 isn't unheard of, but only 2-3 times a year for a week
each maybe.

The waste is certainly a problem for me. I'm pretty anal about
carving my pineapples:

https://i.postimg.cc/90gVwMHD/Fibonacci-Pineapple-Copy.jpg

It's a love-hate relationship for me.

-sw

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm not sure plantains taste much like bananas. AIUI, they're
bland and starchy. One of these days I'll order them in a restaurant
and find out.

That said, fried bananas are a pleasant dessert.

I used to make them when I did Indonesian food. Most of the recipes
on the web call for deep frying, but I pan fried them in butter or
coconut fat.

Fried Bananas

5 bananas, quartered
1 C flour
1/4 C cocnut milk
2 eggs
2 T sugar
1/2 t salt
butter
more sugar

Make batter of flour, coconut milk, eggs, 2 T sugar, salt, and 2 pieces
of banana, mashed. Dip remaining banana pieces in batter and fry in
butter until brown. Sprinkle with extra sugar.

I can't recall where this recipe came from. Probably an Indonesian
cookbook that I checked out from the library.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

Fresh pineapple eats my throat. Too much bromelain.

That's ok with me. I'm not a fan of tropical fruit. Too soft;
too sweet. I'll take a nice, crisp apple any day.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:41:01 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2023-06-25, Dave Smith <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> On 2023-06-25 4:36 p.m., Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 6/24/2023 5:09 PM, GM wrote:
>>>>   itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> They're readily available here in the supermarkets. They're not an
>>>>> anomaly.
>>>>
>>>> Next David will tell us that " most people don't have access to
>>>> pineapple - unless they live in the tropics..."
>>>
>>> Plantains are a rare sight around here in any store.  "Fresh" pineapples
>>> are pretty gross by the time they get up here.  They are either
>>> under-ripe or already fermenting (sometimes both).  I only buy them
>>> canned fresh.  I probably sound like Popeye, but it's true.
>>
>> Maybe you should be looking in better stores or different seasons.
>> Learn to pick a good one. Pull on one of the centre leaves and it should
>> come out easily. Fresh pineapple, even a not so good one, is infinitely
>> better than canned. Canned is fine for Jell-O salads and pineapple
>> upside down cake, but fresh pineapple is always much tastier than canned.
>
>Fresh pineapple eats my throat. Too much bromelain.

"Darling, pass the bromelain, please."

[Gary]

I've read all this thread. Interesting and odd.
Personally, if I bought a bunch of bananas that
had a hard boner core in the center, I'd toss them
and go buy some normal bananas.

Bananas are dirt cheap, no big monetary loss.

[Dave Smith]

No one is crying the blues over bananas. Other than that off putting
texture, they were edible. I simply trimmed off the good parts and
discarded that core. When I got to the last one I cut it in half and
used a spoon to scoop out that tough spine. We only buy a few bananas
at a time so that they will be nicely ripened in time to eat and don't
end up as banana bread.

I posted about these tough cored bananas only because it was completely
new to me. I had never seen anything like it and thought maybe someone
else here had or know what it was about. I just had the first of the new
bunch of bananas and it was quite normal.

[songbird]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> Fried Bananas
>
> 5 bananas, quartered
> 1 C flour
> 1/4 C cocnut milk
> 2 eggs
> 2 T sugar
> 1/2 t salt
> butter
> more sugar
>
> Make batter of flour, coconut milk, eggs, 2 T sugar, salt, and 2 pieces
> of banana, mashed. Dip remaining banana pieces in batter and fry in
> butter until brown. Sprinkle with extra sugar.
>
> I can't recall where this recipe came from. Probably an Indonesian
> cookbook that I checked out from the library.

it sounds good but much more than i usually want to do
for a dessert.

my typical banana dessert is either straight up or
with peanut butter. once in a while if i want different
i'll put some honey, apple cider vinegar and lemon juice
on them with a bit of cinamon. since i never measure
the amounts it is pretty much "adjust to taste if you
really care" - i don't normally have to because i like
it about any way it comes out.


songbird

[Michael Trew]

On 6/25/2023 6:23 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2023-06-25 5:21 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2023-06-25, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>

>>> Plantains are a rare sight around here in any store.
>>

>> Your area is too white to have interesting food.
>>
>> There. I said it.

LOL

> I doubt that it is whiter than the area I live in but I can get plantains.

Your area is most likely wealthier than mine. I don't ever remember
seeing plantains at my local grocer. I couldn't imagine much of any
demand for it, here. I'm pretty sure that I've seen them in Pittsburgh.

[Michael Trew]

On 6/25/2023 5:15 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2023-06-25, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> He loves to guess and he's usually wrong.
>> Someone needs to explain why I can find
>> dragon fruit, papaya, mangoes and pineapples [...]
>
> There is an Asian place here with
> aquariums growing water lilies.

I had to do a double-take and make sure this wasn't a Bowser post. ;)

[Dave Smith]

I don't think the local affluence is the big factor. Local stores do
carry a wide range of products. Availability of plantain tends to depend
more on ethnic demographics. It is much easier to find in areas with
larger black populations. The black population in Canada is mostly
Caribbean and they use a lot of plantain.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2023-06-26, songbird <song...@anthive.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
>> Fried Bananas
>>
>> 5 bananas, quartered
>> 1 C flour
>> 1/4 C cocnut milk
>> 2 eggs
>> 2 T sugar
>> 1/2 t salt
>> butter
>> more sugar
>>
>> Make batter of flour, coconut milk, eggs, 2 T sugar, salt, and 2 pieces
>> of banana, mashed. Dip remaining banana pieces in batter and fry in
>> butter until brown. Sprinkle with extra sugar.
>>
>> I can't recall where this recipe came from. Probably an Indonesian
>> cookbook that I checked out from the library.
>
> it sounds good but much more than i usually want to do
> for a dessert.

It's easier than baking a cake or pie. A lot of people don't consider
that a lot of work. I suppose the fact that it can't be done in advance
might make it a little more complex at dinnertime.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

The major panethnic origin groups in Canada are: European (52.5%),
North American (22.9%), Asian (19.3%), North American Indigenous
(6.1%), African (3.8%), Latin, Central and South American (2.5%),
Caribbean (2.1%), Oceanian (0.3%), and Other (6%).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_origins_of_people_in_Canada

[jmcquown]

On 6/25/2023 5:15 PM, Mike Duffy wrote:
> On 2023-06-25, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> He loves to guess and he's usually wrong.
>> Someone needs to explain why I can find
>> dragon fruit, papaya, mangoes and pineapples [...]
>
> There is an Asian place here with
> aquariums growing water lilies.
>

I don't have an "Asian place" nearby with anything. I do know plantains
are easily available in a regular supermarket. And are not eaten raw
nor mistaken for bananas.

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[Sqwertz]

On Mon, 26 Jun 2023 09:41:01 GMT, Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> Fresh pineapple eats my throat. Too much bromelain.

Don't eat close to the core, which contains most of the bromelain.
Grilling and/or salting it also deactivates the bromelain. Grilled
pineapple, especially with salt and Mexican spices, is the BOMB.
Dusted with cinnamon and brown sugar and grilled also works pretty
good. You can also broil or roast instead of grill.

I know you just can't wait to try these ideas, amiright? [No]

> That's ok with me. I'm not a fan of tropical fruit. Too soft;
> too sweet. I'll take a nice, crisp apple any day.

Tropical fruits make great sauces for savory (and sweet) foods.

But green papaya and rambutan is probably more your speed.

-sw

[GM]

dsi1 wrote:

> On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 7:58:40 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> > We got a small bunch of bananas this week. They have tough cores. I bit
> > into the first one and was got off guard. It tasted quite normal but
> > there was a strange texture. I was able to break the banana and pull the
> > hard bit out. The rest of the fruit was fine. I have never seen this
> > sort of thing in bananas before. There were a half dozen bananas in the
> > hand. I just ate the 5th one and all of them so far have had this
> > strange core.
> They are probably plantains. Da Hawaiians use it to make pasteles and pastele stew. I can't find any around here. Beats me why that is.
>
> https://www.thespruceeats.com/introduction-to-plantains-2137973


In the country of Bhutan, the possession, use and cultivation of tobacco is prohibited by law...

--
GM

[Bryan Simmons]

Michael, I'd bet that everyone here's area is wealthier than yours.

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

Maybe so... I'd like to argue that we don't know what part of NY/NYC The
Bowser lives in... it might be pretty rough. I'm not worried about
getting shot or robbed where I live, and that's just good enough for me.

I sold that house for $6,500 last week. I just bought another this
morning at tax sale for $2,400... Lol. To be fair, the mean price of
homes is quite a bit higher than I pay (which would be the absolute
cheapest that I can find).

[GM]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Liverpool,_Ohio

The median income for a household in the city was $23,138, and the median income for a family was $27,500.
Males had a median income of $27,346 versus $18,990 for females. The per capita income for the city was
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The East Liverpool housing market is not very competitive. The median sale price of a home in
East Liverpool was $119K last month, down 5.2% since last year. The median sale price per square
foot in East Liverpool is $88, down 6.4% since last year.

East Liverpool Housing Market Trends

What is the housing market like in East Liverpool today?

In May 2023, East Liverpool home prices were down 5.2% compared to last year, selling for a median price of
$119K. On average, homes in East Liverpool sell after 97 days on the market compared to 36 days last year. There
were 10 homes sold in May this year, up from 7 last year.

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[Ed P]

Good for you, hope it was profitable.

I think most people here would be afraid to try your lifestyle but you
make it work. As long as you are happy and take care of Sophia, nothing
else matters.

[Michael Trew]

Thanks, Ed. I paid in the ball-park of $4,100 for it a month and a half
ago. I didn't value the couple hundred that I put into a few supplies
(and a stolen circular saw) or the hours of my time filling a
dumpster... but either way, I certainly didn't consider it a loss.

If I can double my money on this next one in a couple of months, I'm
going to seriously consider continuing to buy sub-$5k tax sale homes,
then quickly clean and flip them... Although I'm afraid to see what the
tax implications will be next year. It should be interesting.

Alternatively, I'm hoping that one of these cheap houses will be decent
enough to get Sophia, her mother and co. out of the income-assisted dump
where they are living; If she'll pay the utilities and taxes. It's
well worth the few thousand I'd have to pay to make that happen.

[songbird]

Michael Trew wrote:
...

> Alternatively, I'm hoping that one of these cheap houses will be decent
> enough to get Sophia, her mother and co. out of the income-assisted dump
> where they are living; If she'll pay the utilities and taxes. It's
> well worth the few thousand I'd have to pay to make that happen.

would it be safe enough for them?


songbird

[Mike Duffy]

On 2023-06-29, songbird wrote:

> would it be safe enough for them?

Not only that, but is your ex (or maybe your daughter)
savvy enough to maintain a house?

Of course, you would likely visit once in a while
to keep an eye on it, but some things (ants, termites)
can do a lot of damage relatively quickly.

[Bruce]

On Thu, 29 Jun 2023 11:40:41 GMT, Mike Duffy <mxd...@bell.net> wrote:

>On 2023-06-29, songbird wrote:
>
>> would it be safe enough for them?
>
>Not only that, but is your ex (or maybe your daughter)
>savvy enough to maintain a house?

How do you know songbird has an ex and/or a daughter?

[dsi1]

What is a "co?" Are you talking about a current boyfriend or husband?
Of course, it's none of my business but, I can't figure that one out.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 28 Jun 2023 21:48:44 -0400, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>Thanks, Ed. I paid in the ball-park of $4,100 for it a month and a half
>ago. I didn't value the couple hundred that I put into a few supplies
>(and a stolen circular saw) or the hours of my time filling a
>dumpster... but either way, I certainly didn't consider it a loss.
>
>If I can double my money on this next one in a couple of months, I'm
>going to seriously consider continuing to buy sub-$5k tax sale homes,
>then quickly clean and flip them... Although I'm afraid to see what the
>tax implications will be next year. It should be interesting.
>
>Alternatively, I'm hoping that one of these cheap houses will be decent
>enough to get Sophia, her mother and co. out of the income-assisted dump
>where they are living; If she'll pay the utilities and taxes. It's
>well worth the few thousand I'd have to pay to make that happen.

You might want to replace the electricity before you put your daughter
in a $4,000 house.