Gus's red hots, Plattsburgh, NY original meat sauce recipe required

[meteore]

Years ago in the sixties, I used to drive from Montreal to
Plattsburgh ofton for Gus's red hots.
There was a large pot cooking his meat sauce and I never tasted
anything so good. It was addictive. You couldn't stop at two of them.
There was not much else on the menu.

Later in the eightees I went back and was told it was bought frozen
from somebody else. Needless to say it was not the same and I never
went back. Gus was there no longer. I never forgot those great
hotdogs from Gus in my youth.

I would love to know the original recipe and if someone knew it or
could direct me to a site, I would gladly appreciate it..

I am aware there are zillions of sites offering recipes for hotdog
sauce, but I want the one that Gus used to make in the sixties.

meteore.

[sf]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:06:12 -0800 (PST), meteore <bigr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Did you read this already?
http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/06/hot-dog-of-the-week-plattsburgh-ny-michigans-new-york.html


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

[meteore]

sf,

I already read it, before posting, but there is no recipe there for
Gus's hot dog. Where is the meat?

Meteore

[Jim Elbrecht]

meteore <bigr...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Years ago in the sixties, I used to drive from Montreal to
>Plattsburgh ofton for Gus's red hots.
>There was a large pot cooking his meat sauce and I never tasted
>anything so good. It was addictive. You couldn't stop at two of them.
>There was not much else on the menu.

Don't know about Gus's- My wife's family hails from Plattsburgh and
have been followers of Ronnie's for 4-5 decades.

I've come close to building a Ronnie's dog-- and one of her brother's
has nailed the recipe, they say.

-snip-

>I would love to know the original recipe and if someone knew it or
>could direct me to a site, I would gladly appreciate it..
>
>I am aware there are zillions of sites offering recipes for hotdog
>sauce, but I want the one that Gus used to make in the sixties.

This is worth trying- The dog is important, so be sure to get the red
ones. I *think* Ronnie makes his own rolls-- they are a bit heavier
than commercial rolls so you can really load the sauce on.

Quick Michigan Sauce
1 medium onion chopped
1 diced green pepper
2 tbls butter
1lb hamburger
1 ½ cups homemade chili sauce [*not* Heinz-- you want a sweet, chunky
sauce that has layers of vinegar flavor, and just a hint of tomato
flavor]
1 tsp cumin
1 tbl chili powder
1 tbl salt
2 tbls Franks Red Hot sauce

Saute onion and peppers in butter until soft-
Add hamburger and cook until brown
Add rest of ingredients and simmer for an hour or two
xxx

This is my Chili sauce
Chili Sauce
Makes about 6 qts
1 peck tomatoes [10 quarts- or about 17 pounds]
2 1/2 c chopped onions
4 c chopped celery [about a whole bunch]
2 1/2 c chopped green pepper [2 large from store]

6 inches stick cinnamon
1 1/2 tsp ground cloves
4 1/2 c brown sugar
1 T dry mustard
1 qt cider vinegar
1/4 c salt.


Peel and cut tomatoes in chunks into a large kettle. Cook 15 minutes;
drain off half of the juice. [1-2 qts when dripped through collander]

Add celery, onion and green pepper. Simmer 1 1/2 hours.

Add remaining ingredients and continue cooking 1 1/2 hours. Remove
cinnamon. Fill pint jars; process in boiling water bath for 5 minutes.
xxxxxxx

Now you've got me wanting a Michigan. . . .

Jim

[sf]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 07:24:45 -0800 (PST), meteore <bigr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> sf,
>
> I already read it, before posting, but there is no recipe there for
> Gus's hot dog. Where is the meat?
>

There was a link to a PDF in the comments, but it played dead for me.
The gist of the article/comments was that every recipe is different
and a closely guarded secret. Various ingredients were mentioned for
the typical sauce, but obviously it's up to you to figure out what Gus
really used based on the taste you remember. I'm from Michigan, but
not that part and I've never eaten one of those dogs.

[meteore]

Some friend in Florida sent me this recipe for michigan red hot sauce
recently. I have yet to try it, as my fridge is full
.

In a large skillet crumble 1lb of hamburger meat, add enough
water to just cover the meat.

Heat until it comes to a boil. While it is cooking mash with a
potato masher until it is very fine.

Add the following when has cooked down about half the water.

1tsp Paprika

1 1/2 tsp chili powder

1tsp powdered cumin

Salt to taste

you can add a little more or less of ingredients depending on
how strong a taste you want.

Simmer 1/2 hr to 45 min.

Remember it is a sauce so you don't want it to dry or to runny.

[sf]

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:19:39 -0800 (PST), meteore <bigr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Thanks for the recipe, I'll save it for next summer.

[meteore]

Another interesting one, if you want a tomato flavor, but still not
Gus's what I want.

Michigan Sauce

2 lbs lean ground beef
1 (15 ounce) cans tomato sauce
4 teaspoons chili powder
2 teaspoons cumin powder
2 teaspoons garlic powder
2 teaspoons ground black pepper
2 teaspoons dried onion flakes
2 teaspoons crushed red pepper flakes
1/4 teaspoon hot sauce

Directions:
1.mix tomato sauce, hot sauce and seasonings in a large saucepan.
2.Add raw ground beef and mash with potato masher while cooking.
3.Cook on medium heat for 30 minutes until beef is browned, then
simmer on low for 2-3 hours.
4.(Sauce will be very thick) Serve Michican Sauce over steamed hot
dogs in a steamed bun and top with chopped raw onions.

[Nunya Bidnits]

Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com> wrote:

> 1 ½ cups homemade chili sauce [*not* Heinz-- you want a sweet, chunky
> sauce that has layers of vinegar flavor, and just a hint of tomato
> flavor]

When you put something like that in a recipe you may as well not post it.
Telling what not to put in isn't exactly helpful.

1 1/2 cups in a chili recipe that uses a pound of burger? That's a major
part of the recipe, not furnished. I can imagine people figure about a
thousand different ways they might make something called "chili sauce".

How about sharing that part of it?

MartyB

[Nunya Bidnits]

meteore <bigr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Some friend in Florida sent me this recipe for michigan red hot sauce
> recently. I have yet to try it, as my fridge is full
> .

-clip recipe for simple chile

You might as well just call up Town Topic in KC and see if they will send
you a gallon of their chili on ice. They have what you want.

http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/34/382273/restaurant/Crossroads-Arts-District-Crown-Center/Town-Topic-Kansas-City

That's the best I can do. It's a venerable hole in the wall, an all night
downtown dinner and a show type diner. They don't have no steenking website.

;-)

MartyB

[Jim Elbrecht]

Ummmm . . .. I did. And not so much because I thought anyone would
make it, but just so they would know what *I* use.

Read down to where I say "This is my Chili sauce

Chili Sauce
Makes about 6 qts"

I got a bottle of 'gourmet chili sauce' once that was very similar. It
bears no resemblance to what Heinz bottles as chili sauce.

Jim

[Nunya Bidnits]

Oops, sorry, guess I didn't scroll agressively enough.

[A Moose in Love]

On Nov 30, 6:16 pm, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:59:42 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
>
>
>

> <nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> >Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
>
> >> 1 cups homemade chili sauce [*not* Heinz-- you want a sweet, chunky>> sauce thathas layers of vinegar flavor, and just a hint of tomato
> >> flavor]
>
> >When you put something like thatin a recipe you may as well not post it.>Telling whatnot to put in isn't exactly helpful.
>
> >1 1/2 cups in a chili recipe thatuses a pound of burger? That's a major

> >part of the recipe, not furnished. I can imagine people figure about a
> >thousand different ways they might make something called "chili sauce".
>

> >How about sharing thatpart of it?
>
> Ummmm . . .. I did.   And not so much because I thought anyone wouldmake it, but just so they would know what*I* use.

>
> Read down to where I say "This is my Chili sauce
> Chili Sauce
> Makes about 6 qts"
>

> I got a bottle of 'gourmet chili sauce' once thatwas verysimilar.Itbears no resemblance to whatHeinz bottles as chili sauce.
>
> Jim

back when i was gay, my one buddy made his own chili sauce. he wuz a
goode cooke. beautiful roast turkey. but then, i'm getting off
topic. chili sauce. yeah. out of sight.