UnKuthe yourself !

[Terry Coombs]

  Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
unkuthe !

--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !

[GM]

Terry Coombs wrote:

>   Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
> unkuthe !

Best post of 2019 so far...!!!

;-D

--
Best
Greg

[Gary]

Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
> unkuthe !

Damn...you've turned baby killfile on us. John is one of us and
will always be here with us. Accept him and maybe try to help
him. :)

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-10 11:10 a.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
>   Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
> unkuthe !
>

He has been in mine for years. The only problem now is that so many
others keep replying to him.

[jmcquown]

On 3/10/2019 11:10 AM, Terry Coombs wrote:
>   Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
> unkuthe !
>

Sorry, but I haven't seen any of his posts in a couple of months.
Replies like this don't seem to be helping.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

We should also be filtering out the people whose raison d'etre here is
to poke sticks at Kuthe.

[Cindy Hamilton]

How on earth could we help him? He doesn't want to be helped.

Cindy Hamilton

[graham]

Bove too?????

[Bruce]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>   Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>unkuthe !

So you started another thread about John Kuthe. I guess you miss him
already.

[Bruce]

Huh, that's coming from Dave Smith?

Well, anyway, eat that Pamela!

[Terry Coombs]

  Big Bad Bruce , just a-fannin' the flames .

[Bruce]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 14:25:38 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>

wrote:

>On 3/10/2019 1:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>> unkuthe !
>> So you started another thread about John Kuthe. I guess you miss him
>> already.
>
>   Big Bad Bruce , just a-fannin' the flames .

I'm fanning the flames? But I didn't start a thread called "Unkuthe
yourself !" (yes, with a space before the exclamation mark).

[Dave Smith]

Careful there. It's her job to make it about her.

[Bruce]

You just did.

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>unkuthe !

Doesn't keep scrolling/ignoring work anymore? Especially when it's not
like there's hundreds of posts here daily to wade through...

I find him at least somewhat amusing and entertaining (and yes,
occasionally concerning), whereas the discussions on food here seem a
little drab and limited in scope in rfc (inasmuch as most the
discussions seem to revolve around US brands and retailers).

If anyone wishes to discuss Thai food, I'm more than happy to
contribute. But few if any here seem to be interested in that.

[Bruce]

I'm very interested in eating it.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:49:41 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

But not cooking it? Not a lot of Thai vegetarian food, although
pescetarians are in luck.

[Terry Coombs]

  How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
mein , egg rolls etc ? Are there specific spices one needs ? I'm always
up for widening the scope of my cooking ! I do have a few
Chinese/Oriental dishes that closely resemble the real thing ... as seen
on the menu of most restaurants . I worked for a China Wok takeout place
for a time , what the Chinese people eat as daily fare is NOT what's on
the menu .

[Bruce]

Cooking too. Yes, they have great seafood/fish dishes.

[Julie Bove]

"Terry Coombs" <snag...@msn.com> wrote in message
news:q639as$ger$1...@dont-email.me...

> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest of
> y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
> unkuthe !

Who?

[Bruce]

Black tribal leader Unkuthe.

[Cindy Hamilton]

There is no "just regular oriental". Asia is huge. Is the food in
New England the same as the food in Alabama? The differences across
Asia are even greater.

Here's a passel of Thai recipes:

<https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/topics/cuisine/asian/thai>

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 03:11:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 8:33:32 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:

Very true.

[dsi1]

On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>   How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
> mein , egg rolls etc ? Are there specific spices one needs ? I'm always
> up for widening the scope of my cooking ! I do have a few
> Chinese/Oriental dishes that closely resemble the real thing ... as seen
> on the menu of most restaurants . I worked for a China Wok takeout place
> for a time , what the Chinese people eat as daily fare is NOT what's on
> the menu .
>
> --
> Snag
> Yes , I'm old
> and crochety - and armed .
> Get outta my woods !

Thai food is generally spicy compared to Japanese food. Chinese and Korean foods can be spicy too. Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food and if you find fish sauce and lemongrass in your food, it's likely to be Thai or Vietnamese food you're having. A Thai restaurant will serve a sticky mochi type rice to eat with their dishes which is unlike the rice the Chinese, Korean, or Japanese people serve. If you're interested in Thai cooking, I suggest that you try one of their most famous dishes - Thai curry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIbKVpBQKJI

[Ophelia]

"Jeßus" wrote in message news:he3b8et8h0gsrsltb...@j.net...

==

I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:33:45 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:

>On 3/10/2019 7:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 09:49:41 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 05:33:36 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>>>> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>>>> unkuthe !
>>>> Doesn't keep scrolling/ignoring work anymore? Especially when it's not
>>>> like there's hundreds of posts here daily to wade through...
>>>>
>>>> I find him at least somewhat amusing and entertaining (and yes,
>>>> occasionally concerning), whereas the discussions on food here seem a
>>>> little drab and limited in scope in rfc (inasmuch as most the
>>>> discussions seem to revolve around US brands and retailers).
>>>>
>>>> If anyone wishes to discuss Thai food, I'm more than happy to
>>>> contribute. But few if any here seem to be interested in that.
>>> I'm very interested in eating it.
>> But not cooking it? Not a lot of Thai vegetarian food, although
>> pescetarians are in luck.
>
>   How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
>mein , egg rolls etc ?

I think "just regular oriental" is code for generic Westernised
versions of Asian food? I'm assuming primarily Chinese food?

There *is* a lot of Chinese food in Thailand (and Chinese
communities), but it's generally very region specific and differs a
lot - mainly in the far north bordering with Myanmar and Laos - and
south in Bangkok, in my experience. Having said that, it's definitely
not what I would describe as mainstream Thai food.

Thai food varies according to whether you are in the north or south.
We live in the north, a region called ' isaan', and the food here is
generally spicier than in the south and can contain some... well, lets
just say 'exotic' ingredients. Some I like, others I'm not quite ready
for, and I'm pretty open minded and adventurous with food :)

Generally speaking, the key traits with Thai food is combining sweet,
sour, spicy, salty and bitter flavours in the one dish, in just the
right proportions. I know when I cook I still don't get it quite
'right'... but I modify a little according to my preferences - for
example I go really heavy on either Thai or holy basil (two different
types of basil for different dishes) because I love it so much. My
wife gets it just right though, same with most of the countless
restaurants and street food.

>Are there specific spices one needs ?

In the main, chilli (Thai chilli), palm sugar, fish sauce, garlic,
lemongrass, kaffir lime and lime. Those would be the basics, but I
guess you can add ginger - although definitely not always used.
Also... MSG, LOL. I mean, MSG does get used a lot here, so although
not traditional I'm adding it for accuracy.

>I'm always
>up for widening the scope of my cooking ! I do have a few
>Chinese/Oriental dishes that closely resemble the real thing ... as seen
>on the menu of most restaurants . I worked for a China Wok takeout place
>for a time , what the Chinese people eat as daily fare is NOT what's on
>the menu .

My Internet is slow as all hell at the moment as I'm sharing my 4G
with 3 other people since yesterday... our fibre Internet should be
installed today (yay). I'll be able to find some good youtube videos
describing what I think is amongst the best Thai recipes, and will
also post some of my own pics later.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:11:52 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 19:33:45 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>wrote:
>

My favourite restaurant used to be a Thai place in Sydney. Very
unassuming, plastic furniture, neon lights, the occasional cockroach,
but great, fresh food. Very spicy from a western perspective, but wait
until you tried what they served their Thai customers! (They once gave
us the wrong plates.)

[jmcquown]

On 3/10/2019 3:25 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 3/10/2019 1:59 PM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>    Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>> unkuthe !
>> So you started another thread about John Kuthe. I guess you miss him
>> already.
>
>   Big Bad Bruce , just a-fannin' the flames .
>

Uh... what do you think you were doing, Terry? I never see his posts
unless someone like you replies to him.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 03:11:20 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 8:33:32 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:

You would think SE Asia would be more homogenous with both culture and
food - but it's not. It's amazing how completely different it is just
crossing a border here. Myanmar is nothing like Thailand, Vietnam is
completely different, etc. Just an one hour flight from any one
country to another.

>Here's a passel of Thai recipes:
>
><https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/topics/cuisine/asian/thai>

Some of those recipes don't represent what Thais commonly eat.

Below I'll list the ones commonly found:

The first one (Khao Soi) is common in the north and hard to find
elsewhere - especially famous in Chiang Mai and is one of my
favourites. I'm not a big fan of noodles but I do love Khao Soi.

The Thai omelotte is very common all over Thailand,

Mango and sticky rice is common, but easier to find in some places
than others.

'Thai chicken satay'... hmm. This style of chicken is common,
especially as street food - but NOT with satay sauce.

Thai chilli sweet sauce is everywhere, although I prefer the green
version made with coriander (cilantro).

Massaman curry is common in the southern parts of Thailand, especially
Bangkok.

'Spicy Cabbage salad with fish sauce dressing' ...LOL. Whoever wrote
this has NO clue. They haven't been to Thailand, that's for sure!
This salad is *extremely* popular all over Thailand, especially with
women for some reason. There tends to be two main versions - one in
the south and one in the north - the northern (isaan) version is WAY
spicier than the southern version as has different ingredients.
- The CORRECT name is 'Somtum'. It contains NO cabbage, instead it
uses grated green papaya.

'Creamy Tom Yam Kung' - I don't know where the author came up with
these names <rolls eyes>. Firstly, it's NOT creamy. Proper name is
just 'Tom Yum', Tom Yam... for brevity's sake. This dish can have
chicken or seafood in the main. One of my favourites too, and no two
places make it quite the same way so take this recipe as shown with a
grain of salt.

Pad Thai - everyone knows this one. The one pictured on that link
looks awful :(

'Gai Pad Krapow"... LOL. Got the name so very wrong again. And again,
as depicted in the photo... it looks TERRIBLE. It should look like
this: https://i.postimg.cc/BnmsNYNJ/IMG-20181116-110315-01mod.jpg

This comes mainly with either chicken or pork. The correct names are:
With pork - Krapao Moo
with chicken - Krapao Gai
add an fried egg it becomes Krapao Moo Kai Dow and Krapao Gai Kai Dow.
***If I had to pick one Thai dish as my favourite - this is it***
especially the pork version. it's important to use holy basil and not
any other type of basil. This is just plain awesome food, especially
for breakfast and available anywhere in Thailand.


I'd better stop here for now :)

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 04:23:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>   How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
>> mein , egg rolls etc ?

> Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food

Don't say this. It is completely untrue. The cuisine is totally
different.

[dsi1]

I don't believe you.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:24:04 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Sounds good, especially with the plastic furniture. That's the sign of
a real Thai restaurant, seriously.

>the occasional cockroach,

That's Sydney for you. The again, Thailand is full of rats <shrug>.

>but great, fresh food. Very spicy from a western perspective, but wait
>until you tried what they served their Thai customers! (They once gave
>us the wrong plates.)

If lots of Thai people eat there, you know it's good and is the real
deal. I never was that big a fan of very spicy food, but I am now.
Even my Thai friends give me looks when I pile the chilli on my food
:)

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 12:29:37 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>

They sure do. You'd probably like Tom Yum Goong.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:22:29 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Ok, just yesterday you described me as being despised by everyone and
was disgusting... but hey, no problem. If I recall correctly, you
don't like spicy food? That limits Thai food a little but by no means
is all Thai food spicy. You may like Moo Palo (pork with egg and
Chinese 5 spice): https://thaifoodmaster.com/preparation/stew/686
It's one of my favourites and the wife makes it often.

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:05:44 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 1:58:44 PM UTC-10, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 04:23:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>> >>   How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
>> >> mein , egg rolls etc ?
>>
>> > Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food
>>
>> Don't say this. It is completely untrue. The cuisine is totally
>> different.
>
>I don't believe you.

Of course you don't. I wasn't expecting anything less from you.

We live half the year in Thailand, other half in Australia, and we
visit Vietnam regularly, since it's only an hour away by plane and
costs little to do so. So what would I know, right?

https://i.postimg.cc/MZV3b9mN/IMG-20180909-113303.jpg

[jmcquown]

On 3/10/2019 12:39 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 11:23:33 AM UTC-4, Gary wrote:

>> Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>
>>> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>> of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>> unkuthe !
>>

>> Damn...you've turned baby killfile on us. John is one of us and
>> will always be here with us. Accept him and maybe try to help
>> him. :)
>

> How on earth could we help him? He doesn't want to be helped.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>
Are people still reading his posts? Wowsa!

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 3/11/2019 7:53 PM, Je�us wrote:
>
>
> I'd better stop here for now :)
>

From some vendors on the street I used to buy salted dried watermelon
seeds. I bought them in bags from a "noodle cart" vendor who also sold
soup, noodles in broth, sometimes grilled fish and a few sweets. Also
bags of dried squid. That's another salty snack I used to buy from the
noodle vendor.

I can't find these things where I live. The Chinese watermelon seeds
I've tried are sweet, soaked in the juice then dried. Not at all the
salty snacks I recall. No salted dried squid, either. ;) Oh well.

Jill

[dsi1]

I know that Thai culture and Vietnamese culture are different. I know that Thai food and Vietnamese foods are different. OTOH, to a guy on the US mainland, Thai food and Vietnamese foods are going to appear quite similar. People on the mainland think Thais, Vietnamese people, and Koreans, are all Chinese so if you want to get your knickers in a bunch, I can't do anything about that. Oh yeah, I already know about your trips to Thailand. :(

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 07:33:12 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:24:04 +1100, Bruce <br...@invalid.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 06:11:52 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:
>>
>>>My Internet is slow as all hell at the moment as I'm sharing my 4G
>>>with 3 other people since yesterday... our fibre Internet should be
>>>installed today (yay). I'll be able to find some good youtube videos
>>>describing what I think is amongst the best Thai recipes, and will
>>>also post some of my own pics later.
>>
>>My favourite restaurant used to be a Thai place in Sydney. Very
>>unassuming, plastic furniture, neon lights,
>
>Sounds good, especially with the plastic furniture. That's the sign of
>a real Thai restaurant, seriously.

The first time we went there, we walked in after seeing a movie,
looking for a simple snack. We got some of the best food I've ever
had. It all looked fairly simple, but it was really well cooked.

>>the occasional cockroach,
>
>That's Sydney for you. The again, Thailand is full of rats <shrug>.

As long as they and their "produce" stay out of the food, I can handle
it.

>>but great, fresh food. Very spicy from a western perspective, but wait
>>until you tried what they served their Thai customers! (They once gave
>>us the wrong plates.)
>
>If lots of Thai people eat there, you know it's good and is the real
>deal. I never was that big a fan of very spicy food, but I am now.
>Even my Thai friends give me looks when I pile the chilli on my food
>:)

That plate that I once got that was meant for Thai people, had a thin
red film over it. I can handle a lot, but that was too much. I guess
if you live there, you get a crash course :)

[Ophelia]

"Jeßus" wrote in message news:jlvd8e1qm9p6qlbam...@j.net...

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:22:29 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" wrote in message news:he3b8et8h0gsrsltb...@j.net...
>
>On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>unkuthe !
>
>Doesn't keep scrolling/ignoring work anymore? Especially when it's not
>like there's hundreds of posts here daily to wade through...
>
>I find him at least somewhat amusing and entertaining (and yes,
>occasionally concerning), whereas the discussions on food here seem a
>little drab and limited in scope in rfc (inasmuch as most the
>discussions seem to revolve around US brands and retailers).
>
>If anyone wishes to discuss Thai food, I'm more than happy to
>contribute. But few if any here seem to be interested in that.
>
>==
>
>I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!

Ok, just yesterday you described me as being despised by everyone and
was disgusting... but hey, no problem.

Are you sure it was me??? I know my posts get a bit mixed up because
I don't get chevrons, but I can assure you I have never said that about
you!!! The only ones I complain about are those who are constantly
belittling other posters. If I thought you were doing that I would never
have spoken to you!!!

If you really did think I said that, it is very kind of you to
consider my request.

I recall correctly, you don't like spicy food?

Yes, we can't eat them.

That limits Thai food a little but by no means is all Thai food spicy You

may like Moo Palo (pork with egg and
Chinese 5 spice): https://thaifoodmaster.com/preparation/stew/686
It's one of my favourites and the wife makes it often.

Thanks very much for that. It is saved. Over the past year or two, I
have been learning Hawaiian and other Asian foods. Dsi1 has taught me a lot
and we are loving it. We have never eaten such foods but now we are addicted
:))

Thank you again for responding. It was most kind, considering what
you thought.

[Janet]

In article <06146783-c7ba-4276...@googlegroups.com>,
dsi...@hawaiiantel.net says...

> > >> > Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food
> > >>
> > >> Don't say this. It is completely untrue. The cuisine is totally
> > >> different.
> > >
> > >I don't believe you.

> >
> > Of course you don't. I wasn't expecting anything less from you.
> >
> > We live half the year in Thailand, other half in Australia, and we
> > visit Vietnam regularly, since it's only an hour away by plane and
> > costs little to do so. So what would I know, right?
> >
> > https://i.postimg.cc/MZV3b9mN/IMG-20180909-113303.jpg
>
> I know that Thai culture and Vietnamese culture are different.
>I know that Thai food and Vietnamese foods are different.

Then why say they are similar? That was misleading, wasn't it?

>OTOH, to a
>guy on the US mainland,
>Thai food and Vietnamese foods are going to appear quite similar.

Then can you explain why you missed two opportunities to educate
those ignorant "guys on the mainland" ?

First you gave them wrong information then you tried to deny the
correction.

Janet UK

[Gary]

dsi1 wrote:
>
> People on the mainland think Thais, Vietnamese people,
> and Koreans, are all Chinese so if you want to get
> your knickers in a bunch, I can't do anything about that.

I got news for you. People on the mainland do NOT think all
asians are chinese. And all cuisines are different. You should
maybe stick to what you know in your own area. Hawaii is
only one out of 50 states. You shouldn't speak for any other.
ALL are different in certain ways.

Your guesses are often wrong but always amusing. ;-D

[Gary]

Ophelia wrote:
>
> "Jeßus" wrote:

>
> "Ophelia" wrote:
> >I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!
>
> Ok, just yesterday you described me as being despised by everyone and
> was disgusting... but hey, no problem.
>
> Are you sure it was me??? I know my posts get a bit mixed up because
> I don't get chevrons, but I can assure you I have never said that about
> you!!!

Note to Jebus: I'll back Oph up on that. She has never talked bad
about you to my knowledge and certainly not recently. If she had
I would have noticed and been surprised.

I just looked back a few days and see...Your name was in the
tread but she was talking about the few here that constantly pick
on J.Kuthe, not you. HTH to smooth over the situation. :)

[Gary]

Janet wrote:
>

Nostradsil graced us with his wisdom:

> > >> > Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food

> >I know that Thai food and Vietnamese foods are different.

> >OTOH, to a guy on the US mainland,
> >Thai food and Vietnamese foods are going to appear quite similar.
>
> Then can you explain why you missed two opportunities to educate
> those ignorant "guys on the mainland" ?

What do we call this fellow who is a USAin yet seems to look down
on the other 49 states in his country? Not a racist.
Maybe just a superior being? ;)

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-12 6:07 a.m., Janet wrote:
> In article <06146783-c7ba-4276...@googlegroups.com>,

> >OTOH, to a
> >guy on the US mainland,
> >Thai food and Vietnamese foods are going to appear quite similar.
>
> Then can you explain why you missed two opportunities to educate
> those ignorant "guys on the mainland" ?
>
> First you gave them wrong information then you tried to deny the
> correction.
>

Due to their similar location and cultures I had assumed that their
foods would be quite similar. I was sorely disappointed when I first
tried Vietnamese food and found out how wrong I had been. Apparently
that first place was not very good so I tried some others. Then I
realized that it is all in the condiments that you add to suit yourself.

[jmcquown]

There may be similarities but I think Thai cuisine (at least in the
North, Chiang Mai) is more closely influenced by Laos. In the south
(Bangkok) Vietnamese has little influence. Chinese, perhaps. There's a
large Chinese population in Thailand.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Tsk tsk, Janet! Don't you know because he lives in Hawaii and is of
Asian descent he knows all about every type of Asian food and culture
there is? LOL

Jill

[Ophelia]

"Gary" wrote in message news:5C87C7BF...@att.net...

==

Thanks, Gary. Much appreciated.

[jmcquown]

LOL! A superior being who married a woman from the mainland (Montana?).
Apparently that makes him an authority on all things Asian, Hawaiian
and also what everyone on the mainland might consider Thai food.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 3/12/2019 10:52 AM, Gary wrote:
> dsi1 wrote:
>>
>> People on the mainland think Thais, Vietnamese people,
>> and Koreans, are all Chinese so if you want to get
>> your knickers in a bunch, I can't do anything about that.
>
> I got news for you. People on the mainland do NOT think all
> asians are chinese.

He really is an idiot when it comes to making sweeping statements like
that. How does he know what you or I or the average "mainlander" thinks
when we see an Asian person?

I don't think anything at all. I don't wonder where they were born.
They're just people at the grocery store. I see all ethnicities at the
grocery store, don't stop to ponder what country they came from.

> And all cuisines are different. You should
> maybe stick to what you know in your own area. Hawaii is
> only one out of 50 states. You shouldn't speak for any other.
> ALL are different in certain ways.
>
> Your guesses are often wrong but always amusing. ;-D
>

He seems to think he has the worldwide view of Usians while pretty much
denying Hawaii is a state. Too late.

Jill

[Cindy Hamilton]

You're not wrong, but they're designed for American cooks
in American kitchens, with American tastes.

Thai "lite".

Cindy Hamilton

[jmcquown]

On 3/11/2019 10:22 AM, Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Jeßus"  wrote in message news:he3b8et8h0gsrsltb...@j.net...
>

> If anyone wishes to discuss Thai food, I'm more than happy to
> contribute. But few if any here seem to be interested in that.
>

> ==

>
> I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!
>

Lots of Thai food can be very spicy, Ophelia. Not all, but much.

It's been years since I lived in Thailand (1971) but this is fun:

http://www.bangkok.com/food-top10.htm

Ooff the beaten path suggesting little "noodle shops" and street vendors
in Bangkok are still the best. "If the Thai's eat there it's probably
good." LOL

Also the street markets. Sukumvit. They sell everything from food (raw
and cooked) to cloth, clothes, hand made shoes and jewlery. Tailors
will sell you cloth and then fit and make your clothing within a couple
of days. Excellent tailoring. There's nothing in the US like a street
market in Bangkok.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Can't but now are?

>  That limits Thai food a little but by no means is all Thai food spicy
> You may like Moo Palo (pork with egg and
> Chinese 5 spice): https://thaifoodmaster.com/preparation/stew/686
> It's one of my favourites and the wife makes it often.
>
>       Thanks very much for that. It is saved.  Over the past year or
> two, I have been learning Hawaiian and other Asian foods.  Dsi1 has
> taught me a lot and we are loving it. We have never eaten such foods but
> now we are addicted :))

dsi1's examples of Asian foods are extremely limited.

Jill

[tert in seattle]

j_mc...@comcast.net writes:
>On 3/12/2019 10:52 AM, Gary wrote:
>> dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>> People on the mainland think Thais, Vietnamese people,
>>> and Koreans, are all Chinese so if you want to get
>>> your knickers in a bunch, I can't do anything about that.
>>
>> I got news for you. People on the mainland do NOT think all
>> asians are chinese.
>
>He really is an idiot when it comes to making sweeping statements like
>that. How does he know what you or I or the average "mainlander" thinks
>when we see an Asian person?

it's his shtick - he doesn't put much thought into it and neither should
anyone else

[dsi1]

Things can be similar and different at the same time. American food and UK foods are similar but they're also different. That shouldn't be a hard concept to digest. I did explain a couple of differences - the rice the Thais eat is different. The level of heat is different.

Don't get your knickers in a twist. My comments were not about you, they were specifically about Americans. My guess is that people in the UK might be more knowledgeable about Asians since historically, they have lorded over their countries. The truth is that I'm not an expert on your country or white people in the UK. I once asked a bunch of kids if they were Irish. They said they were Scottish. I apologized profusely. My guess is that Scottish people don't like being mistaken as Irish any more than Koreans like being called Chinese. Things are easy in the US - white people are mostly just American.

[dsi1]

I got news for you - your news is fake news. I've been on the mainland, I've read the posts on rfc. A guy that grew up with my son who now lives in Pittsburgh, has expressed his frustration with the locals calling Koreans "Chinese." Cultural/Racial ignorance and insensitivity runs rampant in the US. I'm sorry to have to break that news to you.

Your insights on reality are often wrong but always amusing - please keep it up! :)

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 1:51:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 3:52:50 AM UTC-10, Gary wrote:
> > dsi1 wrote:
> > >
> > > People on the mainland think Thais, Vietnamese people,
> > > and Koreans, are all Chinese so if you want to get
> > > your knickers in a bunch, I can't do anything about that.
> >
> > I got news for you. People on the mainland do NOT think all
> > asians are chinese. And all cuisines are different. You should
> > maybe stick to what you know in your own area. Hawaii is
> > only one out of 50 states. You shouldn't speak for any other.
> > ALL are different in certain ways.
> >
> > Your guesses are often wrong but always amusing. ;-D
>
> I got news for you - your news is fake news. I've been on the mainland, I've read the posts on rfc. A guy that grew up with my son who now lives in Pittsburgh, has expressed his frustration with the locals calling Koreans "Chinese."

You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
statistical sampling of American caucasians.

I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
looking, but I know there is a difference.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Can a Chinese tell a German from a Frenchman?

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
> statistical sampling of American caucasians.
>
> I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
> looking, but I know there is a difference.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

Black folks on the mainland are just as ignorant about Asians as are American Caucasians. That's just the way it is. My guess is that will change as the boomers head towards extinction. Hopefully, Asian-Americans won't be as ignorant about other Asians but I don't have any "data points" on that. My son's friend is a haole of Greek heritage and proudly so. He grew up in an environment where he was expected to know about Asians was well as other ethnic groups. The people on the mainland probably wonder why a white boy is trying to school them on Chinese people. One thing is for sure, the way mainlanders treat minorities over there ain't gonna fly over here.

You also got no call to give me a lecture on data points. Evidently, you feel you can teach me about carbon steel pans without having any experience with them. That's common among engineers and rfc'ers, ain't it? :)

[dsi1]

To Asians, all white folks look alike but in America, we don't have to distinguish between German-Americans and Franco-Americans. Asian-Americans don't call German-Americans "Germans" or "French" but Americans might very well call a Korean-American "Chinese." That's fine if Asians all look alike to white and black folks. That's just the way it is.

[Bruce]

White people are most familiar with Chinese, so they tend to round
Asians off to Chinese. No big deal, I agree. Generally speaking, I can
tell a Chinese from a Korean, though. That's easier than telling a
German from a Frenchman, unless they have that typical look for their
country (or a feshly baked baguette under their arm), and even then.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:ou3g8ethbtrbbt581...@4ax.com...

==

You should know better than us:))

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:06:08 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

I should? :)

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:4h8g8ete2rvvocibg...@4ax.com...

==

You lived closer to them than even we were :)

[dsi1]

I might be able to tell a Swede from regular white folks. Their lips tend to be on the tense/stiff side. Brits are supposed to keep a stiff upper lip but I've never noticed anything peculiar in that area.

I had some trouble telling my wife from another white girl in college - they both looked pretty much the same. To this day, I cannot say which girl I did what with. In the end, I picked the one that had a Korean step-mom. Had I picked the other girl, my life probably would have ended up being somewhat boring so... congrats to me. :)

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:33:03 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>

Oh yes, quite close to Germany especially.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

but then, you can't always tell the difference between a German,
Austrian, maybe a Swede or someone from any of the northern countries.
That is even true in North America. Or pick one of the South American
countries. Or islanders. Or any of the predominantly black nations.
Everyone has national pride and identity.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:44:33 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 10:03:36 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 12:38:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>> >> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 1:51:41 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I got news for you - your news is fake news. I've been on the mainland, I've read the posts on rfc. A guy that grew up with my son who now lives in Pittsburgh, has expressed his frustration with the locals calling Koreans "Chinese."
>> >> >
>> >> >You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
>> >> >statistical sampling of American caucasians.
>> >> >
>> >> >I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
>> >> >looking, but I know there is a difference.
>> >>
>> >> Can a Chinese tell a German from a Frenchman?
>> >
>> >To Asians, all white folks look alike but in America, we don't have to distinguish between German-Americans and Franco-Americans. Asian-Americans don't call German-Americans "Germans" or "French" but Americans might very well call a Korean-American "Chinese." That's fine if Asians all look alike to white and black folks. That's just the way it is.
>>
>> White people are most familiar with Chinese, so they tend to round
>> Asians off to Chinese. No big deal, I agree. Generally speaking, I can
>> tell a Chinese from a Korean, though. That's easier than telling a
>> German from a Frenchman, unless they have that typical look for their
>> country (or a feshly baked baguette under their arm), and even then.
>
>I might be able to tell a Swede from regular white folks. Their lips tend to be on the tense/stiff side.

I was in Sweden once. I got the impression that if I were drowning in
front of 10 Swedes, none of them would help me. But if I'd say Help
once, all 10 of them would jump in to help.

>Brits are supposed to keep a stiff upper lip but I've never noticed anything peculiar in that area.

>I had some trouble telling my wife from another white girl in college - they both looked pretty much the same. To this day, I cannot say which girl I did what with. In the end, I picked the one that had a Korean step-mom. Had I picked the other girl, my life probably would have ended up being somewhat boring so... congrats to me. :)

lol I don't think I'd even met my mother-in-law when I proposed. Call
it a gamble.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:52:47 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Ophelia wrote:
>>
>> "Jeßus" wrote:
>>
>> "Ophelia" wrote:

>> >I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!
>>
>> Ok, just yesterday you described me as being despised by everyone and
>> was disgusting... but hey, no problem.
>>
>> Are you sure it was me??? I know my posts get a bit mixed up because
>> I don't get chevrons, but I can assure you I have never said that about
>> you!!!
>

>Note to Jebus: I'll back Oph up on that. She has never talked bad
>about you to my knowledge and certainly not recently. If she had
>I would have noticed and been surprised.
>
>I just looked back a few days and see...Your name was in the
>tread but she was talking about the few here that constantly pick
>on J.Kuthe, not you. HTH to smooth over the situation. :)

Thanks Gary, but the way I read it O was referring to me:


-----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT Fuck Culture!
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:54:52 -0000
Message-ID: <gek8nv...@mid.individual.net>

"Bruce" wrote in message

news:23l98ehnelb9l2v62...@4ax.com...

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 12:58:24 +0700, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:22:41 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
><johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>What has Culture done for you?
>
>It's given me yummy yoghurt to eat with my fruit and smoothies.
>
>>All it;'s tried to do TO me was deprive me of my LIBERTY to be how I want!
>
>You don't want healthy gut flora?

Can't you chose a worthier opponent? Everybody who's that way inclined
has already had a go at John. Or still is having a go at him.

==

One of the chosen few! I suppose it gives those with such hatred
inside
them, a target.

I know I have said this before, but can these people not see how
despised they are in the eyes of normal people??

They are disgusting!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Basically, Bruce was criticising me for not choosing a 'worthier
opponent' than John Kuthe. Ophelia then replied to Bruce's comment.

For whatever reason, Ophelia doesn't use delimiters (>) in her posts,
so it gets somewhat confusing as to who said what.

But as I said before, no problem. I was just pointing it out and then
moved onto the topic of food again. I have no desire to drag it out
any further beyond that, even though some others may prefer I did :)

OB Food: Dragon fruit and bananas with yoghurt for breakfast.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 12:10:42 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> lol I don't think I'd even met my mother-in-law when I proposed. Call
> it a gamble.

When I first met my mother-in-law, she told me that she didn't like me and I should just disappear. I found that to be amusing. OTOH, who could blame her? The Korean were subjugated by the Japanese back in the day. The Japanese considered the Koreans as inferiors. OTOH, being a rich Korean, my mother-in-law was educated in Japan and even had some plastic surgery there. She spoke fluent Japanese too.

As it goes, I didn't take her admonishment personally nor was I intimidated by her. I understood that my wife came as a package deal. And the rest is history.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-12 6:36 p.m., dsi1 wrote:

> When I first met my mother-in-law, she told me that she didn't like
> me and I should just disappear. I found that to be amusing. OTOH, who
> could blame her? The Korean were subjugated by the Japanese back in
> the day. The Japanese considered the Koreans as inferiors. OTOH,
> being a rich Korean, my mother-in-law was educated in Japan and even
> had some plastic surgery there. She spoke fluent Japanese too.
>
> As it goes, I didn't take her admonishment personally nor was I
> intimidated by her. I understood that my wife came as a package deal.
> And the rest is history.
>

My mother in law was a sweetheart. One of my big disappointments has
been that she died before our son could develop enough of a relationship
with her to remember her.

Before I met my wife I was seriously dating a cute Polish girl. He
mother was a widow. She barely spoke English. Maybe she thought she did
but I could not understand her, nor could she understand me. One night
GF and I had a bit of a serious conversation and she indicated that she
was interested in getting married and having her mother move in with us.
We went on to make out hot and heavy. I kissed her goodnight and I
did call her again. I ran for the hills.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 13:07:50 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Sukhumvit, especially around Soi11 is one of my favourite places in
Bangkok. I reckon it may have changed just a little since you were
there! As you mention, there's many places to get a suit, and jewelry
and... well, literally anything else you might want. There's a big
Arab, Indian and African population there as well as expats and
tourists who mainly some for the sex trade. People from all walks of
life. Nana plaza is only a few minutes walk from there, which is
quite infamous.

Here's a few random pics from Sukhumvit:
https://postimg.cc/gallery/11lmgyah0/

[Bruce]

It's a good thing then that your wife made up her own mind, rather
than listen to her stepmom, like some people might.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:26:18 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/11/2019 7:56 PM, Je?us wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 04:23:54 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>>
>>> On Sunday, March 10, 2019 at 2:33:32 PM UTC-10, Terry Coombs wrote:
>>>>   How does Thai cooking differ from "just regular oriental" like lo
>>>> mein , egg rolls etc ?
>>

>>> Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food
>>
>> Don't say this. It is completely untrue. The cuisine is totally
>> different.
>>
>

>There may be similarities but

I think the similarities mainly begin and end with certain noodles,
and some basic ingredients. The taste is different, and is generally
much less chilli used.

> think Thai cuisine (at least in the
>North, Chiang Mai) is more closely influenced by Laos.

Yes, The closest to Thai food is definitely in Laos, especially
western Laos. Around the Golden Triangle, you also see a lot of
Yunnan (Chinese food). Our area and much of the central to north is
described as 'Isaan' - that also goes for the people, dialect and
food. A lot of the food is for the very adventurous compared to
elsewhere. I like a lot of it, but not all.

> In the south
>(Bangkok) Vietnamese has little influence. Chinese, perhaps. There's a
>large Chinese population in Thailand.

Yes, many Chinese communities and sometimes they pop up in the most
unexpected places.

[jmcquown]

Says who?

> so they tend to round
> Asians off to Chinese.

Not true.

> No big deal, I agree. Generally speaking, I can
> tell a Chinese from a Korean, though. That's easier than telling a
> German from a Frenchman, unless they have that typical look for their
> country (or a feshly baked baguette under their arm), and even then.
>
> ==
>
> You should know better than us:))
>
>

He might know better than someone in England or Scotland but he
definitely cannot speak for white people on the mainland US. I don't
seen an Asian person and immediately think they must be Chinese. I
doubt most (he keeps saying most) Americans who live in the US do.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 09:49:32 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Fair enough, it just irks me a little when they get names or details
wrong :) Much like most Thai restaurants in the West that I have been
to that claim to be 'authentic'... when they are quite simply not!

[Jeßus]

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 21:33:41 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/11/2019 7:53 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'd better stop here for now :)
>>
> From some vendors on the street I used to buy salted dried watermelon
>seeds.

I like watermelon seeds (the watermelons sold here still contain
seeds), but I haven't come across salted/dried seeds yet. Maybe I
haven't noticed.

> I bought them in bags from a "noodle cart" vendor who also sold
>soup, noodles in broth, sometimes grilled fish and a few sweets. Also
>bags of dried squid. That's another salty snack I used to buy from the
>noodle vendor.

Yeah. You can get what Westerners would call jerky, pork crackling,
fried insects, FRESH shelled peanuts (they are a revelation!), fried
bananas, all manner of fresh fruit... the list is endless. There is
food on every corner, no matter where you are.

>I can't find these things where I live. The Chinese watermelon seeds
>I've tried are sweet, soaked in the juice then dried. Not at all the
>salty snacks I recall. No salted dried squid, either. ;) Oh well.


:/

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:07:00 -0000, Janet <Ja...@somewhere.com> wrote:

>In article <06146783-c7ba-4276...@googlegroups.com>,
>dsi...@hawaiiantel.net says...

>> > >> > Thai food is very similar to Vietnamese food
>> > >>
>> > >> Don't say this. It is completely untrue. The cuisine is totally
>> > >> different.
>> > >

>> > >I don't believe you.
>
>> >
>> > Of course you don't. I wasn't expecting anything less from you.
>> >
>> > We live half the year in Thailand, other half in Australia, and we
>> > visit Vietnam regularly, since it's only an hour away by plane and
>> > costs little to do so. So what would I know, right?
>> >
>> > https://i.postimg.cc/MZV3b9mN/IMG-20180909-113303.jpg
>>
>> I know that Thai culture and Vietnamese culture are different.
>>I know that Thai food and Vietnamese foods are different.
>
> Then why say they are similar? That was misleading, wasn't it?

LOL, yes I noticed that... I chose to end the dialogue with him. He's
never made an ounce of sense to me. I do wonder if he took too much
acid in his younger days.

> >OTOH, to a
> >guy on the US mainland,
> >Thai food and Vietnamese foods are going to appear quite similar.
>
> Then can you explain why you missed two opportunities to educate
>those ignorant "guys on the mainland" ?
>
>First you gave them wrong information then you tried to deny the
>correction.

LOL.

[jmcquown]

No doubt it's changed! From what I can tell via Google maps, the house
we rented on Soi 63 (Ekamai) is long gone. I went to the Sukumvit
market with our maid and bought some pretty (tiny) speckled green fish
to put in the shallow decorative cement fish pond next to the house.
Unfortunately, our dog thought they were a snack. :(

There was a small, shallow natural pond on the property, too. Fed
underground by the nearby klongs. There was a walking catfish in that
pond. In monsoon season the fish would literally come up out of the
water onto the land. I witnessed this myself, to my utter amazement.

We had a dog my dad brought home under the guise of us needing a "guard
dog". Truth be told, another Marine was being transferred out and
couldn't take the dog to his next assignment so Dad sorta volunteered.
It was a German Shepherd mix. And no more of a guard dog than I am. He
was really just a big furry eating machine. His name was Kamoi. I soon
understood his name based on his habit of stealing the gardener's hat.
Or anything else he could get his paws on. :)

Anyway, the catfish was daring. It would come up close to the surface
by the bank and Kamoi would go crazy barking at it. The catfish could
have eaten on the other side of the pond where there was no place for
the dog to see it or get to it. Same bits of flotsam and jetsom and
whatever bugs and things the fish come to the surface to eat. I swear,
that darn fish was deliberately teasing the dog.

I'm pretty sure Kamoi eventually won that battle. There's a moral in
that story somewhere. ;)

Jill

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 19:24:35 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 3/12/2019 4:06 PM, Ophelia wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Bruce"  wrote in message
>> news:ou3g8ethbtrbbt581...@4ax.com...
>>

>> White people are most familiar with Chinese,
>
>Says who?
>
>> so they tend to round
>> Asians off to Chinese.
>
>Not true.
>
>> No big deal, I agree. Generally speaking, I can
>> tell a Chinese from a Korean, though. That's easier than telling a
>> German from a Frenchman, unless they have that typical look for their
>> country (or a feshly baked baguette under their arm), and even then.
>>
>> ==
>>
>> You should know better than us:))
>>
>>
>He might know better than someone in England or Scotland but he
>definitely cannot speak for white people on the mainland US. I don't
>seen an Asian person and immediately think they must be Chinese. I
>doubt most (he keeps saying most) Americans who live in the US do.

I don't know who Jill thinks she's talking to or about.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:02:54 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>"Jeßus" wrote in message news:jlvd8e1qm9p6qlbam...@j.net...
>
>On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 14:22:29 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>

>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Jeßus" wrote in message news:he3b8et8h0gsrsltb...@j.net...
>>

>>On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 10:10:00 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> Enough bullshit is enough , he's now in my BozoBin . Now if the rest
>>>of y'all will quit responding to his lunatic ravings ... we can all be
>>>unkuthe !
>>
>>Doesn't keep scrolling/ignoring work anymore? Especially when it's not
>>like there's hundreds of posts here daily to wade through...
>>
>>I find him at least somewhat amusing and entertaining (and yes,
>>occasionally concerning), whereas the discussions on food here seem a
>>little drab and limited in scope in rfc (inasmuch as most the
>>discussions seem to revolve around US brands and retailers).
>>

>>If anyone wishes to discuss Thai food, I'm more than happy to
>>contribute. But few if any here seem to be interested in that.
>>
>>==
>>
>>I would be very interested in recipes and discussions about them!
>

>Ok, just yesterday you described me as being despised by everyone and
>was disgusting... but hey, no problem.
>
> Are you sure it was me??? I know my posts get a bit mixed up because
>I don't get chevrons, but I can assure you I have never said that about

>you!!! The only ones I complain about are those who are constantly
>belittling other posters. If I thought you were doing that I would never
>have spoken to you!!!

According to Bruce, I should choose a worthier 'opponent' than John
Kuthe. You then replied to Bruce about it. But like I said, never mind
and let's talk food.


> If you really did think I said that, it is very kind of you to
>consider my request.
>
> I recall correctly, you don't like spicy food?
>
> Yes, we can't eat them.
>
> That limits Thai food a little but by no means is all Thai food spicy You
>may like Moo Palo (pork with egg and
>Chinese 5 spice): https://thaifoodmaster.com/preparation/stew/686
>It's one of my favourites and the wife makes it often.
>
> Thanks very much for that. It is saved. Over the past year or two, I
>have been learning Hawaiian and other Asian foods. Dsi1 has taught me a lot
>and we are loving it. We have never eaten such foods but now we are addicted
>:))
>
> Thank you again for responding. It was most kind, considering what
>you thought.

That's OK Ophelia, you're welcome. I've come to appreciate Asian food
after travelling a lot in recent years, I've always struggled a little
finding Western food (away from my own kitchen) that I can both eat
and enjoy, for one thing I have a wheat intolerance and find a lot of
takeaway and restaurant food bland... not so with Asian food *in Asia*
(there's a difference!).

I now spend half the year in Thailand, the other half in Australia.
Now married to a Thai and recently bought a small house about 4 hour's
drive north of Bangkok. It's 7:20AM and will soon go to the market.

[graham]

It was pretty obvious that a serious GF I had at Uni was expected by her
parents to take care of them when they got older - she was an only
child. It was hilly where I was living so I didn't have to run far!

[dsi1]

That sounds about right. My wife was a package deal but having to live with that crazy old bat would give me pause. When I graduated from college, the first thing we did was get out of our houses. I didn't realize it at the time but I was really extracting her out of hell. Here's a passage from a book by her aunt. She's writing about my wife's sister.

"Bill eventually remarried. Their new stepmother was from Korea, spoke no English, and had to be very overwhelmed not only by the lifestyle in America but also with the responsibility of caring for seven children, aged twelve to three years old. I can only imagine her despair and frustration. This does not justify to me, however, the physical, verbal, and emotional abuse that the children endured over the years. Sheri’s self-esteem was so damaged, she didn’t even know how to laugh. She reminded me recently that she didn’t know what an avocado was nor ever had a banana split before she came to live with me. She had also never had any positive encouragement, so she had a dreadful inferiority complex. One day, when she was walking down the street, a carload of boys drove by and whistled at her. She came home in tears"

[Bruce]

Talk about thinking far ahead...

[Hank Rogers]

Those guys missed the boat. Popeye would have humped all those gal's
mammies. And their aunts ... and their grannies ... and ...

[Bruce]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:54:24 -0500, Hank Rogers <nos...@invalid.net>
wrote:

That's because he would have known the grannies when they were young.
Popeye's as old as the hills.

[Dave Smith]

Good move.I have to say that my vision of life did not include an old
babushka hanging around 24/7. She had a brother and sister in law who
seemed nice enough and seemed to have a lot more money than you might
expect considering their jobs. Years later the SiL got busted for
embezzling money from her employer. She ran the classified ads
department for a family run newspaper and was skimming cash.... millions
of dollars. She would then spend it on clothes that she never wore. The
court cases went on for years and the victims lost the newspaper than
had been in the family for generations.

[tert in seattle]

Austrians are weirder than Germans. You know a Swede because they'll
tell you within 5 minutes.

[Bruce]

"Hello, nice to meet you. I'm a Swede, by the way." Really? :)

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 05:26:59 +0000 (UTC), tert in seattle
<te...@ftupet.com> wrote:

>Austrians are weirder than Germans. You know a Swede because they'll
>tell you within 5 minutes.

Imagine a Swedish vegan then. They must get horribly conflicted as to
which to tell you first.

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 1:00:36 PM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>
> It's a good thing then that your wife made up her own mind, rather
> than listen to her stepmom, like some people might.

That's the problem with kids. No matter how hard you try, they have a tendency to have minds of their own. That's the breaks.

[Bruce]

The classical meat eaters complaint: "They tell me within 5 minutes
that they're vegans!" But you don't know about all the vegans you met
who never told you :)

[Bruce]

That's why "kids" are often version 2.0 of their parents :)

[Ophelia]

"tert in seattle" wrote in message news:q6a4b3$jjn$2...@ftupet.ftupet.com...

===

How about the Dutch ... ;p

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:f5ag8e55jhjnscl05...@4ax.com...

On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 21:33:03 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>

wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message

>news:4h8g8ete2rvvocibg...@4ax.com...
>
>On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 20:06:08 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>

>wrote:
>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:ou3g8ethbtrbbt581...@4ax.com...
>>

>>On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 12:38:26 -0700 (PDT), dsi1
>><dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 9:05:26 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:

>>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:35:39 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
>>>> <angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
>>>> >statistical sampling of American caucasians.
>>>> >
>>>> >I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
>>>> >looking, but I know there is a difference.
>>>>

>>>> Can a Chinese tell a German from a Frenchman?
>>>
>>>To Asians, all white folks look alike but in America, we don't have to
>>>distinguish between German-Americans and Franco-Americans.
>>>Asian-Americans
>>>don't call German-Americans "Germans" or "French" but Americans might
>>>very
>>>well call a Korean-American "Chinese." That's fine if Asians all look
>>>alike
>>>to white and black folks. That's just the way it is.
>>

>>White people are most familiar with Chinese, so they tend to round
>>Asians off to Chinese. No big deal, I agree. Generally speaking, I can

>>tell a Chinese from a Korean, though. That's easier than telling a
>>German from a Frenchman, unless they have that typical look for their
>>country (or a feshly baked baguette under their arm), and even then.
>>
>>==
>>
>>You should know better than us:))
>

>I should? :)
>==
>
>You lived closer to them than even we were :)

Oh yes, quite close to Germany especially.

==

Yep:)

[Bruce]

On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 09:46:20 -0000, "Ophelia" <OphEl...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Yes, I'd like to know where I rank on the weird scale :) For one
thing, I never tell people that I'm Dutch so I'm already less weird
than the Swedes.

[Ophelia]

"Jeßus" wrote in message news:ijig8e918s9pfsn18...@j.net...

I now spend half the year in Thailand, the other half in Australia.
Now married to a Thai and recently bought a small house about 4 hour's
drive north of Bangkok. It's 7:20AM and will soon go to the market.

==

Enjoy and tell us what you have bought!

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:ihjg8e9acvb5i8lpp...@4ax.com...

===

No! Not sure what that has to do with the French and Germans.

*shrug*

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 3:32:44 PM UTC-4, dsi1 wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 8:35:42 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >
> > You've got one data point. Or a few, at best. Hardly a
> > statistical sampling of American caucasians.
> >
> > I might not be able to tell a Korean from a Chinese by
> > looking, but I know there is a difference.
> >
> > Cindy Hamilton
>

> Black folks on the mainland are just as ignorant about Asians as are
>American Caucasians. That's just the way it is. My guess is that will
>change as the boomers head towards extinction. Hopefully, Asian-Americans
>won't be as ignorant about other Asians but I don't have any "data points"
>on that. My son's friend is a haole of Greek heritage and proudly so. He
>grew up in an environment where he was expected to know about Asians was
>well as other ethnic groups. The people on the mainland probably wonder >why
>a white boy is trying to school them on Chinese people. One thing is for
>sure, the way mainlanders treat minorities over there ain't gonna fly over
>here.
>
> You also got no call to give me a lecture on data points. Evidently, you >feel you can teach me about carbon steel pans without having any >experience
>with them. That's common among engineers and rfc'ers, ain't it? :)

By your "logic", nobody can learn anything by the experience of others.
Doctors cannot treat diseases they have not themselves had. Engineers
must learn by designing things with flaws and seeing what happens
after they are implemented.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:tokh8elchbktl93i3...@4ax.com...

==

Well that's a start:)