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Omphalos

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Jun 17, 2003, 12:04:49 AM6/17/03
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100 g (3.5oz) soft butter
1.5 dl (6 oz) sugar
2 tbsp cocoa
1 tsp vanilla sugar
2 tbsp cold coffee
4 dl (1.5 cup) oats

Garnish:
Chopped coconut


Mix and stir butter, vanilla and sugar. Then mix in cocoa and oats. Stir
until
it's all mixed to an even dough. Put the dough in the refrigator for around
15-20 minutes so that the dough will get a bit harder (it is easier to make
balls of it if its not all mushy). Take some of the dough in your hands and
roll
it to a ball and roll them in coconut so it gets covered by it. Put them in
the
fridge again for a while, then eat and enjoy!

zxcvbob

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Jun 17, 2003, 12:10:37 AM6/17/03
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What makes them Swedish?
Bob

Anthony

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Jun 17, 2003, 10:17:20 AM6/17/03
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"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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> What makes them Swedish?
> Bob
>
And what makes them N*****?


zxcvbob

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Jun 17, 2003, 11:14:33 AM6/17/03
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Probably the cocoa.

Best regards,
Bob


Jimmy Tango

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Jun 17, 2003, 12:52:09 PM6/17/03
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"zxcvbob" <zxc...@charter.net> wrote in message
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"N*****" is a derogatory term and is inappropriate whether the recipe has
cocoa in it or not.


sf

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Jun 17, 2003, 1:03:52 PM6/17/03
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Nor would he have gotten the same reaction if he'd posted
them as Chocolate Snowballs.

Cecil

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Jun 17, 2003, 2:15:53 PM6/17/03
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"Omphalos" <sl...@ds1.domainspa.com> wrote in message
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>>(In original post, recipe went here)

I don't believe this person has ever posted before. Maybe he/she's a troll?

BTW, a Google search only turns out one incidence of a recipe by the name
the Omphalos posted, by a Swedish girl with the domain name of peachkin.
Maybe Omphalos and Peachkin are the same person?

Shelly


jen

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Jun 17, 2003, 5:20:30 PM6/17/03
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In article news:ZGHHa.512$C83....@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net on
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 16:52:09 GMT, "Jimmy Tango"
<fatbu...@ridethesnake.com> wrote:

[snip]

>
> "N*****" is a derogatory term and is inappropriate whether the recipe
> has cocoa in it or not.
>


it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
have power over us. no, it's not a word that i would use but i have been
taken to task rather severely because i have a recipe on my website
called "Mammy's Pumpkin Pie".

i received several irate emails from a person who DEMANDED (right now,
dammit!) that i change the name of that recipe because she found it
offensive. even after i explained that Mammy was an Irish term for
mother and was my Irish grandmother's recipe, she DEMANDED that i change
the name of the recipe.

i told her to piss off (only not quite that politely).

cheers,

jen

--
======
As Canadian as possible under the circumstances.

zxcvbob

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Jun 17, 2003, 5:28:39 PM6/17/03
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jen wrote:

Still I wonder why someone would take a perfectly good recipe and post
it with an inflamatory title. (I'm talking about the OP in this thread,
not "Mammy's...") There are so much better ways to stir up trouble
without resorting to ethnic slurs.

Some people are just mean *and* have no imagination.

Best regards,
Bob

jen

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Jun 17, 2003, 5:43:46 PM6/17/03
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In article news:bco16c$lc4lk$1...@ID-63726.news.dfncis.de on Tue, 17 Jun
2003 21:28:39 GMT, zxcvbob <zxc...@charter.net> wrote:

[snippage]

> Still I wonder why someone would take a perfectly good recipe and post
> it with an inflamatory title. (I'm talking about the OP in this
> thread, not "Mammy's...") There are so much better ways to stir up
> trouble without resorting to ethnic slurs.
>
> Some people are just mean *and* have no imagination.

this is true. my thoughts were kind of along the lines of 'don't feed
the troll'. as i said, i wouldn't use that word myself (along with other
words) but i wouldn't let it bother me as i wouldn't let it bother me if
someone used one of the other words i don't use against me.

don't let the word bother you and it takes away someone's ability to
bother you!

Margaret Suran

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Jun 17, 2003, 6:00:44 PM6/17/03
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If someone knows that a word will hurt even one person who reads the
post, it is wrong to use that word. The same goes for the contents of a
post, whether it is directed at one person in particular or to one or
more in general.

Whether the word or sentiment is pertinent to race, religion,
nationality, intelligence, personality, appearance or such, why hurt
someone or many? There is so much sadness in this world, let's be kind
to as many as we can. I may chant: "Sticks and Stones May Hurt My
Bones, But Words Will Never Hurt Me", but to be honest, at least in my
case, words cut much deeper then a stone hurled at me and finding its
target. Sooner or later, the scar on your body will fade, the scar the
word left in your heart will be there for a much longer time.

Margaret

WardNA

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Jun 17, 2003, 6:18:20 PM6/17/03
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>Still I wonder why someone would take a perfectly good recipe and post
>it with an inflamatory title.

Obviously, they're trying to be provocative. However, the name of the dessert
may be a literal translation. I know a German cookie called 'Negerkuesse' that
the authorities have been slow to change.

jen

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Jun 17, 2003, 7:31:43 PM6/17/03
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In article news:Xns939D91F0...@63.240.76.16 on Tue, 17 Jun 2003

21:20:30 GMT, jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:

> it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
> have power over us. no, it's not a word that i would use but i have
> been taken to task rather severely because i have a recipe on my
> website called "Mammy's Pumpkin Pie".


someone just asked if i would post the URL for this and so here it is:

<http://www.peavine.com/lowcarb/dessert/pumpkinpie.html>

i adapted the recipe for a low-carb diet so there's no crust and it uses
Splenda instead of sugar. if one doesn't low-carb, use sugar and put it
in a crust <g>.

(oh. i just use a lard pastry crust for it.)

PENMART01

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Jun 17, 2003, 7:34:14 PM6/17/03
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war...@aol.com (WardNA) writes:

Yoose gots a loooong wait... the kraut authorities is the gestapo, duh!


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WardNA

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Jun 17, 2003, 9:56:55 PM6/17/03
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>Yoose gots a loooong wait... the kraut authorities is the gestapo, duh!

They are, indeed. And they've been very busy cleansing incorrect words from
print, just as we have. So I wouldn't think the wait would be all that long.

Blair P. Houghton

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Jun 17, 2003, 11:16:34 PM6/17/03
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jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
>it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
>have power over us.

Explain that to someone who's been lynched.

--Blair
"Politics is viral."

jen

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Jun 17, 2003, 11:54:29 PM6/17/03
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In article news:mQQHa.2198391$uT2.3...@news.easynews.com on Wed, 18 Jun
2003 03:16:34 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

> jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
>>it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
>>have power over us.
>
> Explain that to someone who's been lynched.


words didn't lynch anyone.

Jimmy Tango

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Jun 18, 2003, 1:45:12 PM6/18/03
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> Still I wonder why someone would take a perfectly good recipe and post
> it with an inflamatory title. (I'm talking about the OP in this thread,
> not "Mammy's...") There are so much better ways to stir up trouble
> without resorting to ethnic slurs.
>
> Some people are just mean *and* have no imagination.
>
> Best regards,
> Bob
>
>

Well said, Bob.


Jimmy Tango

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Jun 18, 2003, 1:48:16 PM6/18/03
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"jen" <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote in message
news:Xns939DD4BE...@63.240.76.16...

> In article news:mQQHa.2198391$uT2.3...@news.easynews.com on Wed, 18 Jun
> 2003 03:16:34 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:
>
> > jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
> >>it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
> >>have power over us.
> >
> > Explain that to someone who's been lynched.
>
>
> words didn't lynch anyone.
>

No, but the attitude that goes hand in hand with that word did.


jen

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Jun 18, 2003, 2:05:04 PM6/18/03
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In article news:AB1Ia.2137$C83.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net
on Wed, 18 Jun 2003 17:48:16 GMT, "Jimmy Tango"
<fatbu...@ridethesnake.com> wrote:


in the US, not in sweden.

you're putting your own cultural interpretation on the word. i doubt
many other nations have the long and healthy tradition of lynching that
the US has...certainly not sweden!

Dan Abel

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Jun 18, 2003, 2:21:28 PM6/18/03
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In article <20030617181820...@mb-m03.aol.com>, war...@aol.com
(WardNA) wrote:


And, the original "N" word simply means "black" in both Latin and
Spanish. Telling all the Spanish speaking people that they have to remove
the word "black" from all writing and speech would probably not go over
too well.

--
Dan Abel
Sonoma State University
AIS
da...@sonic.net

GW

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Jun 18, 2003, 11:03:48 PM6/18/03
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jen wrote:

> In article news:AB1Ia.2137$C83.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net

<snip>

> in the US, not in sweden.
>
> you're putting your own cultural interpretation on the word. i doubt
> many other nations have the long and healthy tradition of lynching that
> the US has...certainly not sweden!

Sweden practiced eugenics by sterilization of 'misfits' who weren't quite
blond and blue eyed enough as late as 1976! That's right. It wasn't until
1976 that the Swedish National Institute for Racial Hygiene ceased its
operation. In the 40 years prior, over 60,000 Swedish residents were
sterilized in the name of racial purity.

It seems that wherever this topic of the n-word comes up in any newsgroup
someone inevitably brings up the fact that slavery was once legal in the US
and that lynchings even occurred. They conveniently ignore the fact that
during the period of slavery in the US, *less than half* of the sub-Saharan
Africans sold into slavery were brought to the US. An even larger number
were marched northward, on foot, through the Saharan desert bound for Middle
Eastern, Asian, and European markets.

Just my rant. In no way, shape, or form did the US corner the market on the
slave trade.

Richard Periut

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Jun 18, 2003, 9:45:39 PM6/18/03
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Funny how the world's greatest geniuses, were not blonde and blue eyed.

Einstein, Hawkings, numerous amounts of Indian (asian) mathematicians,
et cetera.

Me thinks the nordic race is a mix of homo sapiens, mixed with the more
primitive neanderthal.

R

Blair P. Houghton

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Jun 18, 2003, 9:59:35 PM6/18/03
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jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
>In article news:mQQHa.2198391$uT2.3...@news.easynews.com on Wed, 18 Jun
>2003 03:16:34 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:
>
>> jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
>>>it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
>>>have power over us.
>>
>> Explain that to someone who's been lynched.
>
>
>words didn't lynch anyone.

Words are politics, and politics result in action, and
lynching is one of the actions the politics of the wrong
words created.

>cheers,

clues,

--Blair
"Sticks and stones will break my bones
especially if you hand them around."

Virginia Tadrzynski

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Jun 18, 2003, 11:26:45 PM6/18/03
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unless I misinterpret my linguistic classes, the germanic 'niger' pronounced
Ny-jer is the word for black. To add the additional 'g' is to make a word
that is inflammatory and totally uncalled for when discussing an item of
food.

My two cents,
Ginny

PS: Where is Sheldon with the thesaurus when we need him.

"jen" <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote in message

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GW

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Jun 19, 2003, 2:20:10 AM6/19/03
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"Blair P. Houghton" wrote:

> jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
> >In article news:mQQHa.2198391$uT2.3...@news.easynews.com on Wed, 18 Jun
> >2003 03:16:34 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:
> >
> >> jen <jje...@alumni.uvic.ca> wrote:
> >>>it's only a word and words only have power over us if we allow them to
> >>>have power over us.
> >>
> >> Explain that to someone who's been lynched.
> >
> >
> >words didn't lynch anyone.
>
> Words are politics, and politics result in action, and
> lynching is one of the actions the politics of the wrong
> words created.

Blair, you've just paraphrased Proverbs 18:21. The King James version reads:
"Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and they that love it shall
eat the fruit thereof."

WardNA

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Jun 19, 2003, 8:46:25 AM6/19/03
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> Telling all the Spanish speaking people that they have to remove
>the word "black" from all writing and speech would probably not go over
>too well.

And that has not been proposed, has it?

But even in the past two decades, the formerly accepted word "Neger" has been
disapproved in German, with the word "Schwartz" being substituted.

Neil

PENMART01

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Jun 19, 2003, 11:45:54 AM6/19/03
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war...@aol.com (WardNA) writes:

German is not my native tongue but still I believe your spelling is incorrect
"schwatz/schvatz"?

So, "Darkie" is an improvement?!?!?

Margaret Suran

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Jun 19, 2003, 12:14:46 PM6/19/03
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PENMART01 wrote:
>
> war...@aol.com (WardNA) writes:
>
> >> Telling all the Spanish speaking people that they have to remove
> >>the word "black" from all writing and speech would probably not go over
> >>too well.
> >
> >And that has not been proposed, has it?
> >
> >But even in the past two decades, the formerly accepted word "Neger" has been
> >disapproved in German, with the word "Schwartz" being substituted.
>
> German is not my native tongue but still I believe your spelling is incorrect
> "schwatz/schvatz"?
>
> So, "Darkie" is an improvement?!?!?
>

The German word is "Schwarz". Seventy or so years ago, in Austria a
black person was called a Mohr, or Moor. The word Neger was hardly ever
used. Sadly, we also had pastries called after body parts of Blacks and
American Indians and they were not used in the same way as we say Peach
Melba here or called a confection after Mozart (Mozartkugeln) in
Austria. MS

michiel van der linden

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Jun 19, 2003, 12:22:16 PM6/19/03
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"PENMART01" <penm...@aol.como> wrote in message
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> war...@aol.com (WardNA) writes:
>
> >> Telling all the Spanish speaking people that they have to remove
> >>the word "black" from all writing and speech would probably not go over
> >>too well.
> >
> >And that has not been proposed, has it?
> >
> >But even in the past two decades, the formerly accepted word "Neger" has
been
> >disapproved in German, with the word "Schwartz" being substituted.
>
> German is not my native tongue but still I believe your spelling is
incorrect
> "schwatz/schvatz"?
>

No, it most definatively is Schwartz.

In Dutch, we also use the word "neger", but I don't think it is no longer
accepted. Actually, I think "black" ("zwarte") is in fact more derogatory.
It is not what you say, but how you say it, and the thoughts you have about
it.

As an outsider I am sometimes amazed at the p.c. newspeak invented at the
other side of the pond.
To stay with this subject, nigger used to be a normal, neutral word to
describe somebody with dark skin. It became derogatory, and they invented a
new word.
And again.
And again.
I don't know what today's p.c. term is, but I know that unless people get
educated and change their mentality, it will become as un-p.c. as the rest
in a little while.

Michiel van der Linden
Bruges, Belgium


WardNA

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Jun 19, 2003, 8:12:43 PM6/19/03
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>still I believe your spelling is incorrect
>"schwatz/schvatz"?

Now I can't remember, either: "schwarz," maybe.


PENMART01

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Jun 19, 2003, 8:37:11 PM6/19/03
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In article <20030619201243...@mb-m28.aol.com>, war...@aol.com
(WardNA) writes:

Must get lost in the transliteration... where's Victor when you need him.

Blair P. Houghton

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Jun 19, 2003, 9:23:31 PM6/19/03
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GW <gwa...@uswest.net> wrote:

>"Blair P. Houghton" wrote:
>> Words are politics, and politics result in action, and
>> lynching is one of the actions the politics of the wrong
>> words created.
>
>Blair, you've just paraphrased Proverbs 18:21. The King James version reads:
>"Death and life are in the power of the tongue; and they that love it shall
>eat the fruit thereof."

That's the problem with the Bible. It occasionally gets
something right. So people think the wrong things are
simply right things they're supposed to learn by rote.

--Blair
"Whacking them on the knuckles
with a ruler just makes it sure
they'll get it."

LadySycamore

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:10:23 PM6/20/03
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Understand this: the "N" word *has* lost a lot of it's meaning over
time, since the Af/American culture has taken that word and somewhat
turned it around (ex: "That's my n****r!" used in a more positive context).

However, I've found that when the word is used out of that type of
context is where the problem lies. In addition, I'm PRETTY sure that the
OP could have used another word in it's place.

*highly suspicious of ppl who use the "N" word online like that...*

--
~LadySyc~
Getting in touch with her inner bitch daily!

Too often, we lose sight of life's simple pleasures.
Remember, when someone annoys you it takes 42
muscles in your face to frown BUT, it only takes 4
muscles to extend your arm and bitch-slap the
motherfucker upside the head...

LadySycamore

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:12:04 PM6/20/03
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Yeah, but is the Latin and Spanish termed "spelled" the way the
derogatory term is spelled?

LadySycamore

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:16:33 PM6/20/03
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As a "black" person living in the US, that is news to me ('nigger' being
a regular term for blacks. I've seen Niger, Negro, etc., but never that,
unless it was being used in a negative way). And I know because I was
called that once. It didn't "bother" me (at the time) because of the way
it was "thrown" at me, but sometimes it DOES become upsetting to think
about being called that.

LadySycamore

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:19:10 PM6/20/03
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Exactly, so it's safe to say that you don't have the history NOR the
experience of being black and having to deal with the "N" word being
offensive, yes?

LadySycamore

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Jun 20, 2003, 6:21:07 PM6/20/03
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GW wrote:
> It seems that wherever this topic of the n-word comes up in any newsgroup
> someone inevitably brings up the fact that slavery was once legal in the US
> and that lynchings even occurred. They conveniently ignore the fact that
> during the period of slavery in the US, *less than half* of the sub-Saharan
> Africans sold into slavery were brought to the US. An even larger number
> were marched northward, on foot, through the Saharan desert bound for Middle
> Eastern, Asian, and European markets.
>
> Just my rant. In no way, shape, or form did the US corner the market on the
> slave trade.

Erm...no one said that they did, but they CERTAINLY did a job in taking
slavery to a whole new and ugly level (legal chattel slavery/laws).

Nancy Young

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Jun 20, 2003, 7:32:08 PM6/20/03
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LadySycamore wrote:
>
> GW wrote:

> > Just my rant. In no way, shape, or form did the US corner the market on the
> > slave trade.
>
> Erm...no one said that they did, but they CERTAINLY did a job in taking
> slavery to a whole new and ugly level (legal chattel slavery/laws).

I think Africa has the corner on that market. No offense, and it's
still going on today. Also, let's not forget that the majority of
our ancesters arrived long after slavery/never had a slave in their
lives.

nancy

michiel van der linden

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Jun 21, 2003, 2:58:39 AM6/21/03
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"LadySycamore" <nevery...@crap.com> wrote in message
news:bd012o$rj2$1...@slb3.atl.mindspring.net...

>
>
> As a "black" person living in the US, that is news to me ('nigger' being
> a regular term for blacks. I've seen Niger, Negro, etc., but never that,
> unless it was being used in a negative way).

Well, we're talking about two or three centuries ago. The word is simply
latin for black. (with one g added for English pronounciation)
Looking at the situation at that time, it probably became derogatory pretty
fast. As I said, it depends on how you say it. Even the nicest word can
become an insult if you use enough venom in your voice. If enough people do
this, the word becomes an insult in it's own right.

Michiel vander Linden
Bruges, Belgium


blake murphy

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Jun 21, 2003, 4:40:43 AM6/21/03
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2003 18:19:10 -0400, LadySycamore
<nevery...@crap.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>Exactly, so it's safe to say that you don't have the history NOR the
>experience of being black and having to deal with the "N" word being
>offensive, yes?

i think i'll agree with richard prior that the time for use of the
word 'nigger' is past. not that the word should be somehow expunged;
but it seems that it's not a term that's useful now.

your pal,
blake

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