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Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 3, 2015, 7:10:39 PM2/3/15
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No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
--Bryan
Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
--Bryan
col...@gmail.com
Feb 3, 2015, 7:18:01 PM2/3/15
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Just put the beer in the freezer for about 25 min. I have buried beer in snow which made it colder than usual.
Jeßus
Feb 3, 2015, 7:31:42 PM2/3/15
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that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
Personally I'm not that keen on ice cubes with my beer... maybe a very
small glass on a very hot day, perhaps.
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James Silverton
Feb 3, 2015, 8:49:37 PM2/3/15
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On 2/3/2015 8:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
Budweiser might approach your hopes. It isn't bad served cold enough to
keep ice cubesfrom melting fast.
--
Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
Extraneous "not." in Reply To.
notbob
Feb 4, 2015, 12:06:06 AM2/4/15
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On 2015-02-04, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
> 6.5% alcohol needs taming? I can't think of a beer I really like
> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
There's some serious dreck, out there, that is above 5%. Some kinda
> 6.5% alcohol needs taming? I can't think of a beer I really like
> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
Plank House swill......
> Personally I'm not that keen on ice cubes with my beer... maybe a very
> small glass on a very hot day, perhaps.
cold temps. A good beer may actually be better at warmer temps.
nb
tert in seattle
Feb 4, 2015, 4:10:04 AM2/4/15
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SYeOsb3yA
"the world's best-loved imported wine!"
jmcquown
Feb 4, 2015, 4:50:20 AM2/4/15
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I went to visit her sister in Pennsylvania. I have a cousin who is
about my age. He took me to a "party" where his friends literally
served Riunite on the rocks. There's only one image in that old ad
showing Riunite with ice *in* the glass.
Mom and I went to see her cousin and his wife on that trip, too. We had
a lovely dinner followed by snifters of brandy after dinner. Much
better! :)
Jill
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 8:21:37 AM2/4/15
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On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:49:37 PM UTC-6, James Silverton wrote:
> On 2/3/2015 8:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> >> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> >> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> >> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >
> > I hope you can find bad enough beer locally to treat this way.
>
I had one bottle of New Belgium Ranger, and two Sam Adams Rebels. Neither
> On 2/3/2015 8:33 PM, Bruce wrote:
> > On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> > <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> >> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> >> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> >> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >
> > I hope you can find bad enough beer locally to treat this way.
>
are local. Both were good.
> >
> Budweiser might approach your hopes. It isn't bad served cold enough to
> keep ice cubesfrom melting fast.
>
Budweiser is bad no matter what. The only InBev product that I'd ever buy
> Budweiser might approach your hopes. It isn't bad served cold enough to
> keep ice cubesfrom melting fast.
>
is Negra Modelo, and that is too lightly hopped to pour over ice.
>
> --
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
--Bryan
> --
> Jim Silverton (Potomac, MD)
>
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 9:55:28 AM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 3:50:20 AM UTC-6, jmcquown wrote:
> On 2/4/2015 4:00 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> > Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> >> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> >> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> >> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > I don't know about that but... Riunite on ice, that's nice!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SYeOsb3yA
> >
> > "the world's best-loved imported wine!"
> >
> LOL Do they even still make that stuff?! When I was about 20 my mom and
> I went to visit her sister in Pennsylvania. I have a cousin who is
> about my age. He took me to a "party" where his friends literally
> served Riunite on the rocks. There's only one image in that old ad
> showing Riunite with ice *in* the glass.
>
Riunite was pretty crappy, but there's nothing wrong with an off dry white
> On 2/4/2015 4:00 AM, tert in seattle wrote:
> > Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> >> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> >> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> >> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> >> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >>
> >> --Bryan
> >
> > I don't know about that but... Riunite on ice, that's nice!
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71SYeOsb3yA
> >
> > "the world's best-loved imported wine!"
> >
> LOL Do they even still make that stuff?! When I was about 20 my mom and
> I went to visit her sister in Pennsylvania. I have a cousin who is
> about my age. He took me to a "party" where his friends literally
> served Riunite on the rocks. There's only one image in that old ad
> showing Riunite with ice *in* the glass.
>
or rose (or a not-too-sweet white Zin) over ice.
>
> Mom and I went to see her cousin and his wife on that trip, too. We had
> a lovely dinner followed by snifters of brandy after dinner. Much
> better! :)
>
Brandy is another thing I'd want over ice, if I'd ever again drink it
> Mom and I went to see her cousin and his wife on that trip, too. We had
> a lovely dinner followed by snifters of brandy after dinner. Much
> better! :)
>
unmixed. Anything higher in alcohol than this stuff is out of my range.
https://www.thepartysource.com/express/item.php?id=9891
How nice this looks, though I'd prefer the orange and lemon slices merely
on the side of the glass, not squeezed in.
http://www.davethebartender.com/drinks/recipe-6747.htm
>
> Jill
--Bryan
sf
Feb 4, 2015, 12:39:52 PM2/4/15
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 05:21:30 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The only InBev product that I'd ever buy is Negra Modelo
Love Negra Modello. I'm not a big beer drinker, but that's what I
<bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The only InBev product that I'd ever buy is Negra Modelo
order when there isn't a full bar to order a margarita to drink with
my south of the border food. A Chavela is excellent too. What we get
in San Jose is unique to the area, it's a riff on the Dark &
Stormy/Moscow Mule idea. They use Mexican beer instead of ginger beer
(I order dark, which means Negra Modello), a big shot of lime and a
shot of tequila. That one has a real kick to it! They should call it
a Mexican Mule. I tried making it at home once (well, someone else's
home), but it wasn't the same - so Chavela is a restaurant drink for
me. I think, as with the other mule types, the secret is in the
amount of lime you add and I don't have that touch.
--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room
Nunya Bidnits
Feb 4, 2015, 1:10:26 PM2/4/15
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Beer on ice is alcohol abuse.
Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 1:24:26 PM2/4/15
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"Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
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Thomas
Feb 4, 2015, 1:42:16 PM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 4:50:20 AM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
> > LOL Do they even still make that stuff?! When I was about 20 my mom >and I went to visit her sister in Pennsylvania.
In PA, you buy it in a box.
> > LOL Do they even still make that stuff?! When I was about 20 my mom >and I went to visit her sister in Pennsylvania.
My local bar has it 3 bucks a glass, 5 for a mug. Yes, mug LOL.
col...@gmail.com
Feb 4, 2015, 1:55:32 PM2/4/15
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Sneak your own beer into the bar.
Glutton
Feb 4, 2015, 2:29:37 PM2/4/15
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imagine eating in a Vietnamese joint without an iced beer. And it's
usually a beer I would otherwise never drink. like Bud and it's ilk.
--
Food good! Fire BAD!! - Frankenstein's Monster
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 2:32:21 PM2/4/15
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On 2/4/2015 8:24 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
>> cubes.
>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>> pisswater
>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in
>> a
>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
>
> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>
Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's
> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
>> cubes.
>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>> pisswater
>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in
>> a
>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
>
> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>
the worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 2:34:15 PM2/4/15
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"dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 2/4/2015 8:24 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
>>> cubes.
>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>>> pisswater
>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
>>> in
>>> a
>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>
>>
>> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
>> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
>> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>>
>
> Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's the
> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really good.
>> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
>>> cubes.
>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>>> pisswater
>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
>>> in
>>> a
>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>
>>
>> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
>> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
>> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>>
>
> Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's the
> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
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dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 2:55:26 PM2/4/15
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the caffeine anyway. The coffee maker at my office makes only bad cups.
My only hope is that the restaurant that's opening next door will have
some good stuff. I'm fairly certain it's going to be better than the
swill I'm drinking now.
Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 2:58:32 PM2/4/15
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"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
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There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more. If you
don't like beer, fine. More for me.
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Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 3:26:39 PM2/4/15
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"Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> can adults drink stuff like that?
It's as good as carbonated prune juice gets.
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 3:42:15 PM2/4/15
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On 2/4/2015 10:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
taste. :-)
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> I must have put that badly. Good beer is great. Dr. Pepper is... how
> can adults drink stuff like that?
>
The answer is simple: caffeine. For the regular Dr Pepper, it's sugar
> can adults drink stuff like that?
>
and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
taste. :-)
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dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 4:28:26 PM2/4/15
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On 2/4/2015 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote:
>
People drink beer even if it tastes bad. I figure people wouldn't drink
beer if it had no alcohol. OTOH, I'm no expert on beer.
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:42:09 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2/4/2015 10:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
>
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2/4/2015 10:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
>
>>>>>>> Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really
>>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>>>>
>>>> There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more. If you
>>>> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>>>
>>> I must have put that badly. Good beer is great. Dr. Pepper is... how
>>> can adults drink stuff like that?
>>>
>>
>> The answer is simple: caffeine. For the regular Dr Pepper, it's sugar
>> and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
>> taste. :-)
>
> Also for the taste. That's why there's good and bad beer :)
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really
>>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>>>>
>>>> There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more. If you
>>>> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>>>
>>> I must have put that badly. Good beer is great. Dr. Pepper is... how
>>> can adults drink stuff like that?
>>>
>>
>> The answer is simple: caffeine. For the regular Dr Pepper, it's sugar
>> and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
>> taste. :-)
>
>
People drink beer even if it tastes bad. I figure people wouldn't drink
beer if it had no alcohol. OTOH, I'm no expert on beer.
Jeßus
Feb 4, 2015, 4:54:24 PM2/4/15
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Feb 4, 2015, 5:08:20 PM2/4/15
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On 4 Feb 2015 05:06:02 GMT, notbob <not...@nothome.com> wrote:
>On 2015-02-04, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
>
>> 6.5% alcohol needs taming? I can't think of a beer I really like
>> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
>
>There's some serious dreck, out there, that is above 5%. Some kinda
>Plank House swill......
Fair point. I have made a couple of ales around 10-12% and it spoiled
>On 2015-02-04, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
>
>> 6.5% alcohol needs taming? I can't think of a beer I really like
>> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
>
>There's some serious dreck, out there, that is above 5%. Some kinda
>Plank House swill......
the taste, IMO. Probably a little too dry and the alcohol taste a
little too dominant. Conversely, if the alc % is too low, it doesnt
taste quite right to me either. For me, 5-8% is about right, depending
on the type of beer.
>> Personally I'm not that keen on ice cubes with my beer... maybe a very
>> small glass on a very hot day, perhaps.
>
>It's ludicrous. Only mega-swill lagers/pilsners (claimed) require ice
>cold temps. A good beer may actually be better at warmer temps.
often prefer it close to room temperature. On a very hot day after
doing a lot of work though and I do like it nicely chilled.
sf
Feb 4, 2015, 5:16:11 PM2/4/15
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:55:19 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> I'm drinking a bad cup of a coffee right now but I drink the stuff for
> the caffeine anyway. The coffee maker at my office makes only bad cups.
> My only hope is that the restaurant that's opening next door will have
> some good stuff. I'm fairly certain it's going to be better than the
> swill I'm drinking now.
Have you considered buying better coffee for your coffee maker to work
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> I'm drinking a bad cup of a coffee right now but I drink the stuff for
> the caffeine anyway. The coffee maker at my office makes only bad cups.
> My only hope is that the restaurant that's opening next door will have
> some good stuff. I'm fairly certain it's going to be better than the
> swill I'm drinking now.
with?
Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 5:20:23 PM2/4/15
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"dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
Miller etc.
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 5:51:21 PM2/4/15
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On 2/4/2015 11:56 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:28:21 -1000, dsi1
> I only drink beer that tastes good to me. Maybe you're thinking more
> of alcoholics.
>
I can only take your word for it. You're the expert on yourself.
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:28:21 -1000, dsi1
> of alcoholics.
>
I can only take your word for it. You're the expert on yourself.
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 5:54:17 PM2/4/15
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is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
should just get a Keurig already.
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 5:56:02 PM2/4/15
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beer. :-)
Paul M. Cook
Feb 4, 2015, 6:01:06 PM2/4/15
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"dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
is the steep time.
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Glutton
Feb 4, 2015, 6:15:19 PM2/4/15
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politics: It's important to proclaim the value of the [one you picked]
but also to villify the [one you didn't pick]. People drink DP, as
well as Coke, root beer, 7-Up and all the others because they are cold,
wet, carbonated and sweet. Sure, there are distinctions between 7-up,
Sprite and Mt. Dew that make them fodder for a fight. Who cares.
Beer is the same. Yeah, I love good beers, but in the absence of good
beer at a beach party, I'll drink Miller or whatever. Why? It's cold,
wet carbonated and alcoholic. It's not like I have to give up my
passport or my job or anything. If people don't like these "American
can" beers because they are flavorless, I assume they despise water
too. Arrggh! Water is completely flavorless! (Depending on the age of
municipal water system.)
I've listened to plenty of carping about bad beer. It's waste of
perfectly good oxygen, which is contemptible too for it's lack of
flavor!
Dave Smith
Feb 4, 2015, 6:32:49 PM2/4/15
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On 2015-02-04 5:54 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>> Have you considered buying better coffee for your coffee maker to work
>> with?
>>
>
> It doesn't seem to matter what coffee I get - they all taste nasty. Why
> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
> should just get a Keurig already.
I don't know why you would think it is the machine. Most coffee makers
>> Have you considered buying better coffee for your coffee maker to work
>> with?
>>
>
> It doesn't seem to matter what coffee I get - they all taste nasty. Why
> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
> should just get a Keurig already.
can make a decent cup of coffee unless you are using really crappy
coffee or there is really bad water. Personally, I am not impressed
with Keurig coffee. I have had it many times and it always tastes like a
cross between real coffee and instant. There is a coffee shop near here
with a gimmick. They have Keurig machines and you get to pick the
coffee to be run through the machine. Not great.
If you want a machine that makes great coffee you might consider a
Nespresso. A few years ago we were staying with my niece and she had a
Nespresso machine. It made really good coffee. The drawback is that the
capsules are pricey and can be hard to find. If I were to get one I
would have to drive at least 15 miles to get them, and they run about $1
apiece the last time I checked.
Dave Smith
Feb 4, 2015, 6:34:17 PM2/4/15
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On 2015-02-04 5:55 PM, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> Anyone who likes the good stuff has no use for the likes of Bud, Coors,
>> Miller etc.
>>
>
> That's why some folks should never stray from good old American can
> beer. :-)
It's like sex in a canoe.
>
>> Anyone who likes the good stuff has no use for the likes of Bud, Coors,
>> Miller etc.
>>
>
> That's why some folks should never stray from good old American can
> beer. :-)
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Jeßus
Feb 4, 2015, 7:17:05 PM2/4/15
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 20:06:25 -0400, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 10:12:04 +1100, Bruce <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote:
>>Maybe you don't like coffee.
>
>Those coffee makers are a blight on the landscape, the pods are not
>recyclable.
Also are a rip off and the quality of the coffee can only be awful, if
only because it's stale to begin with.
>On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 10:12:04 +1100, Bruce <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote:
>
>Those coffee makers are a blight on the landscape, the pods are not
>recyclable.
Also are a rip off and the quality of the coffee can only be awful, if
only because it's stale to begin with.
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 8:08:56 PM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 11:39:52 AM UTC-6, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 05:21:30 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > The only InBev product that I'd ever buy is Negra Modelo
>
> Love Negra Modello. I'm not a big beer drinker, but that's what I
> order when there isn't a full bar to order a margarita to drink with
> my south of the border food.
>
A lot of people don't realize that Mexico's beer tradition comes from
having a sizable percentage of persons of German ethnicity. In my book,
Ian's housekeeper and sometimes cook is named Julia Muller, a German
surname.
I don't get people paying premium prices for Tecate (which is awful) or
Corona. Even Dos Equis is not worth the price. A Mexican-American
restaurant that we like has a great deal, happy hour 5 bottles of beer in
a bucket for $10. Until I started treatment, my wife used to drive home
so I could take advantage of that. Now, the idea of 5 bottles of beer in
60-90 minutes has no appeal, and their liquor license does not permit
taking unopened bottles home. They also have full orders of guacamole for
$3 during happy hour, and that's not just in the bar area.
--Bryan
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 05:21:30 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > The only InBev product that I'd ever buy is Negra Modelo
>
> Love Negra Modello. I'm not a big beer drinker, but that's what I
> order when there isn't a full bar to order a margarita to drink with
> my south of the border food.
>
A lot of people don't realize that Mexico's beer tradition comes from
having a sizable percentage of persons of German ethnicity. In my book,
Ian's housekeeper and sometimes cook is named Julia Muller, a German
surname.
I don't get people paying premium prices for Tecate (which is awful) or
Corona. Even Dos Equis is not worth the price. A Mexican-American
restaurant that we like has a great deal, happy hour 5 bottles of beer in
a bucket for $10. Until I started treatment, my wife used to drive home
so I could take advantage of that. Now, the idea of 5 bottles of beer in
60-90 minutes has no appeal, and their liquor license does not permit
taking unopened bottles home. They also have full orders of guacamole for
$3 during happy hour, and that's not just in the bar area.
--Bryan
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 9:21:50 PM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 12:10:26 PM UTC-6, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Beer on ice is alcohol abuse.
No, Marty, enjoying beer in moderation is not alcohol abuse. Alcohol abuse
is something that I can write about seriously, having been a heavy beer
drinker for over 30 years. I am lucky that my genetic makeup didn't allow
for my Alcohol Use Disorder to become Alcoholism, because I still get to
enjoy beer in however limited ways. My alcohol use is still not where I
want it to be, but I'm averaging just over 3 beers an evening, and if you
really do think that 3 bottles of intensely hopped American (West Coast
Style) pale ale, over ice, consumed over 2-3 hours is "alcohol abuse",
especially when contrasted with 8-12 cans of light lager in that same
timeframe is abuse...of course you don't. Whatever your faults, you're not
stupid.
I am sharing my experience with Alcohol Use Disorder (AUD), and naltrexone
treatment because doing so might help others. The Sinclair Method is
proving to be remarkably successful for treating AUD, but most physicians
are still stuck in the old paradigm. Other treatments have a <75% success
rate of preventing relapse into pre-treatment levels of AUD, whereas
extinction regimens have a >75% chance of reducing alcohol use to levels
that are within reasonably healthful parameters, with many folks choosing
abstinence--*freely* choosing abstinence.
Opioid receptor antagonists are the obvious first line treatment for AUD,
but even more so for opiate addiction. Even there, they are underutilized,
and every day lives are lost.
http://projects.huffingtonpost.com/dying-to-be-free-heroin-treatment
--Bryan
> Beer on ice is alcohol abuse.
No, Marty, enjoying beer in moderation is not alcohol abuse. Alcohol abuse
is something that I can write about seriously, having been a heavy beer
drinker for over 30 years. I am lucky that my genetic makeup didn't allow
for my Alcohol Use Disorder to become Alcoholism, because I still get to
enjoy beer in however limited ways. My alcohol use is still not where I
want it to be, but I'm averaging just over 3 beers an evening, and if you
really do think that 3 bottles of intensely hopped American (West Coast
Style) pale ale, over ice, consumed over 2-3 hours is "alcohol abuse",
especially when contrasted with 8-12 cans of light lager in that same
timeframe is abuse...of course you don't. Whatever your faults, you're not
stupid.
I am sharing my experience with Alcohol Use Disorder (AUD), and naltrexone
treatment because doing so might help others. The Sinclair Method is
proving to be remarkably successful for treating AUD, but most physicians
are still stuck in the old paradigm. Other treatments have a <75% success
rate of preventing relapse into pre-treatment levels of AUD, whereas
extinction regimens have a >75% chance of reducing alcohol use to levels
that are within reasonably healthful parameters, with many folks choosing
abstinence--*freely* choosing abstinence.
Opioid receptor antagonists are the obvious first line treatment for AUD,
but even more so for opiate addiction. Even there, they are underutilized,
and every day lives are lost.
http://projects.huffingtonpost.com/dying-to-be-free-heroin-treatment
--Bryan
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 9:30:02 PM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 12:24:26 PM UTC-6, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
> > No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
> > cubes.
> > Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
> > pisswater
> > beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in
> > a
> > glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
>
> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>
I assure you that a nicely hopped APA over ice does *not* "taste like Coors."
> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
> > No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
> > cubes.
> > Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
> > pisswater
> > beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in
> > a
> > glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
>
> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>
>
--Bryan
Bryan-TGWWW
Feb 4, 2015, 9:42:57 PM2/4/15
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On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 1:34:15 PM UTC-6, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
> > On 2/4/2015 8:24 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> >> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
> >>> cubes.
> >>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
> >>> pisswater
> >>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
> >>> in
> >>> a
> >>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> >> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> >> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
> >>
> >
> >> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
> >>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
> >>> cubes.
> >>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
> >>> pisswater
> >>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
> >>> in
> >>> a
> >>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
> >> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
> >> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
> >>
> >
> > Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's the
> > worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>
> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really good.
>
And really good beer on the rocks might not be as much to a person's liking
> > worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>
> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really good.
>
as really good beer neat, but it doesn't transform good beer into swill. As I
write this, I am enjoying a New Belgium Ranger straight from the bottle. It's
a lovely, nicely hopped beer. It's good over ice too. God, I love hops.
>
--Bryan
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 9:59:18 PM2/4/15
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On 2/4/2015 1:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:54:14 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:54:14 -1000, dsi1
> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
> Maybe you don't like coffee.
>
I say probably about the same as you like beer.
>
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 10:01:18 PM2/4/15
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ain't gonna stop nobody from breathing. :-)
spamtr...@gmail.com
Feb 4, 2015, 10:05:02 PM2/4/15
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On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 4:10:39 PM UTC-8, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
Actually, industrial American lager goes well over ice. The dilution turns
> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
it into a refreshing light beer.
But don't dilute the integrity of the carefully crafted beers.
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 10:12:50 PM2/4/15
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coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
myself but my customers deserve better.
The restaurant next door used to have really tasty coffee for nearly
half a year. It was a pleasure to buy a cup for $1.65. Then they went
back to their nasty brew. I asked them where they got their coffee but
they said it was just the stuff in the generic packs. That's the breaks,
but I was aware that nothing great lasts forever so I lived it up for
those few months. I have no regrets. :-)
dsi1
Feb 4, 2015, 10:14:12 PM2/4/15
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can do in a canoe - especially fishing!
Xeno
Feb 4, 2015, 11:57:07 PM2/4/15
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On 4/02/2015 11:10 AM, Bryan-TGWWW wrote:
> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
> --Bryan
> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>
>
You are welcome to it. Some of the places I've been, that's the only way
you can get cold beer. You're welcome to it. It's enough to turn me to
spirits.
--
Xeno.
Nunya Bidnits
Feb 4, 2015, 11:59:00 PM2/4/15
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"Bryan-TGWWW" wrote in message
news:b229whoosh042e-c9c2-4...@googlegroups.com...
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 12:10:26 PM UTC-6, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> Beer on ice is alcohol abuse.
> No, Marty, enjoying beer in moderation is not alcohol abuse.
FFS. Thin skin lately? The rare time I read one of your posts, and it's you
not getting the joke.
Alcohol abuse. As in a waste of an alcoholic beverage. Messing up beer with
ice is alcohol abuse. Especially if it's good beer.
Crap, I didn't expect to have to explain that one. But hey, My bad, I forgot
to add LOL, smileys 'n shit.
news:b229whoosh042e-c9c2-4...@googlegroups.com...
On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 12:10:26 PM UTC-6, Nunya Bidnits wrote:
>> Beer on ice is alcohol abuse.
> No, Marty, enjoying beer in moderation is not alcohol abuse.
not getting the joke.
Alcohol abuse. As in a waste of an alcoholic beverage. Messing up beer with
ice is alcohol abuse. Especially if it's good beer.
Crap, I didn't expect to have to explain that one. But hey, My bad, I forgot
to add LOL, smileys 'n shit.
Roy
Feb 4, 2015, 11:59:46 PM2/4/15
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Even a slippery park bench would be better.
Xeno
Feb 5, 2015, 12:00:01 AM2/5/15
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On 4/02/2015 12:34 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:31:35 +1100, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
>> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
>>
>> Personally I'm not that keen on ice cubes with my beer... maybe a very
>> small glass on a very hot day, perhaps.
>
> In other words: not in Tasmania.
>
Indeed. Not too many days over 25C in Tassie...
--
Xeno.
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 11:31:35 +1100, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>
>> 6.5% alcohol needs taming? I can't think of a beer I really like
>> On Tue, 3 Feb 2015 16:10:35 -0800 (PST), Bryan-TGWWW
>> <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice cubes.
>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless pisswater
>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice in a
>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>
>> that's under 5% - just doesnt taste right to me.
>>
>> Personally I'm not that keen on ice cubes with my beer... maybe a very
>> small glass on a very hot day, perhaps.
>
> In other words: not in Tasmania.
>
Indeed. Not too many days over 25C in Tassie...
--
Xeno.
Xeno
Feb 5, 2015, 12:04:30 AM2/5/15
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--
Xeno.
Xeno
Feb 5, 2015, 12:05:27 AM2/5/15
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On 5/02/2015 6:53 AM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
>>> On 2/4/2015 8:24 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
>>>> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>>>> "Bryan-TGWWW" <bryang...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:8f2e9e82-2243-4478...@googlegroups.com...
>>>>> No one has ever made a good case why beer shouldn't be poured over ice
>>>>> cubes.
>>>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>>>>> pisswater
>>>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> cubes.
>>>>> Sodapop over ice is a normal thing. I can see why weak, flavorless
>>>>> pisswater
>>>>> beer would be silly on the rocks, but a 6.5%, highly hopped ale is nice
>>>>> in
>>>>> a
>>>>> glass with ice. The ice tames both the alcohol and the carbonation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ick. Watered down beer would taste like Coors. Most mass produced
>>>> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
>>>> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>>>>
>>>
>>>> corporate swill tastes like the back of your throat after having a sip of
>>>> beer a and then rinsing your mouth out.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound like it's the
>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>
>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really good.
>
> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>
And is NEVER GOOD! LOL
>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>
>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ... really good.
>
> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>
--
Xeno.
Xeno
Feb 5, 2015, 12:06:37 AM2/5/15
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On 5/02/2015 6:58 AM, Paul M. Cook wrote:
> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
> There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more. If you
> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>
You will never catch me battering down your door to get at your Dr
> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>
Pepper. Trust me, it's safe in YOUR hands! ;-)
>
>
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Xeno
Feb 5, 2015, 12:08:32 AM2/5/15
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On 5/02/2015 8:28 AM, dsi1 wrote:
> On 2/4/2015 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:42:09 -1000, dsi1
>> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/4/2015 10:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:58:26 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
> On 2/4/2015 11:04 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 10:42:09 -1000, dsi1
>> <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/4/2015 10:02 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Bruce" <Br...@Bruce.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>> news:n4u4dahc560ivopga...@4ax.com...
>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:34:09 -0800, "Paul M. Cook" <pmc...@gte.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "dsi1" <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:mats2u$vh6$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>>>>>>>> Jeepers! I'm glad I don't drink beer. You guys make it sound
>>>>>>>> like it's
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ...
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more.
>>>>> If you
>>>>> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> like it's
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> worst crap imaginable. I'll stick with Diet Dr. Pepper. :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is beer and there is swill. Really good beer is well ...
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whereas really good Diet Dr. Pepper is still Diet Dr. Pepper.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is one DP. There are thousands of beer recipes if not more.
>>>>> If you
>>>>> don't like beer, fine. More for me.
>>>>
>>>> I must have put that badly. Good beer is great. Dr. Pepper is... how
>>>> can adults drink stuff like that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The answer is simple: caffeine. For the regular Dr Pepper, it's sugar
>>> and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
>>> taste. :-)
>>
>> Also for the taste. That's why there's good and bad beer :)
>>
>
> People drink beer even if it tastes bad. I figure people wouldn't drink
> beer if it had no alcohol. OTOH, I'm no expert on beer.
I must not be a "people" then because if the beer tastes bad, I'm
>>>> can adults drink stuff like that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The answer is simple: caffeine. For the regular Dr Pepper, it's sugar
>>> and caffeine. Guess why people drink beer. Hint: it's not for the
>>> taste. :-)
>>
>> Also for the taste. That's why there's good and bad beer :)
>>
>
> People drink beer even if it tastes bad. I figure people wouldn't drink
> beer if it had no alcohol. OTOH, I'm no expert on beer.
definitely not drinking it.
--
Xeno.
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 12:36:37 AM2/5/15
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be one of those guys that would rather be fishing. :-)
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 12:40:28 AM2/5/15
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into a beer discussion since I do not partake.
sf
Feb 5, 2015, 1:35:02 AM2/5/15
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:15:15 -0800, Glutton <nos...@thanks.org> wrote:
> I've listened to plenty of carping about bad beer. It's waste of
> perfectly good oxygen, which is contemptible too for it's lack of
> flavor!
>
What's your position on "canoe" beer?
> I've listened to plenty of carping about bad beer. It's waste of
> perfectly good oxygen, which is contemptible too for it's lack of
> flavor!
>
--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room
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Feb 5, 2015, 1:37:00 AM2/5/15
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On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:54:14 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> On 2/4/2015 12:16 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:55:19 -1000, dsi1
> > <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm drinking a bad cup of a coffee right now but I drink the stuff for
> >> the caffeine anyway. The coffee maker at my office makes only bad cups.
> >> My only hope is that the restaurant that's opening next door will have
> >> some good stuff. I'm fairly certain it's going to be better than the
> >> swill I'm drinking now.
> >
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> On 2/4/2015 12:16 PM, sf wrote:
> > On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 09:55:19 -1000, dsi1
> > <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm drinking a bad cup of a coffee right now but I drink the stuff for
> >> the caffeine anyway. The coffee maker at my office makes only bad cups.
> >> My only hope is that the restaurant that's opening next door will have
> >> some good stuff. I'm fairly certain it's going to be better than the
> >> swill I'm drinking now.
> >
> > Have you considered buying better coffee for your coffee maker to work
> > with?
> >
>
> It doesn't seem to matter what coffee I get - they all taste nasty. Why
> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
> should just get a Keurig already.
No. You don't want a Keurig.
> > with?
> >
>
> It doesn't seem to matter what coffee I get - they all taste nasty. Why
> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
> should just get a Keurig already.
Glutton
Feb 5, 2015, 1:49:20 AM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05 06:34:56 +0000, sf said:
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:15:15 -0800, Glutton <nos...@thanks.org> wrote:
>
>> I've listened to plenty of carping about bad beer. It's waste of
>> perfectly good oxygen, which is contemptible too for it's lack of
>> flavor!
>>
> What's your position on "canoe" beer?
I prefer swimming, it's even closer to water.
> On Wed, 4 Feb 2015 15:15:15 -0800, Glutton <nos...@thanks.org> wrote:
>
>> I've listened to plenty of carping about bad beer. It's waste of
>> perfectly good oxygen, which is contemptible too for it's lack of
>> flavor!
>>
> What's your position on "canoe" beer?
--
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Feb 5, 2015, 2:21:33 AM2/5/15
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A friend buys only Maxwell House, but it tastes great because he uses
spring water (he's on a well, and it is sulfurous).
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 5:36:08 AM2/5/15
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dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 5:52:19 AM2/5/15
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notbob
Feb 5, 2015, 9:49:53 AM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-04, Jeßus <no...@all.org> wrote:
> Agreed, my favourite commercial beer is Cooper's Sparkling Ale, I
> often prefer it close to room temperature. On a very hot day after
> doing a lot of work though and I do like it nicely chilled.
My epiphany came when I had an early job as a janitor at the CA
State Fair. I hadda clean one of the exhibit halls and it had a
diplay from the Philippines. It included a pyramid of San Miguel beer
sixers. Being the evil sneaky 20something I was, I figured out how to
unstack the pyrimid to get down deep inside and snag an unopened
bottle. They were room temp, so I was not ready for the flavor I
experienced. Very strong, yet quite flavorful. Not at all what I
expected. I was San Miguel fan (light and dark) for many yrs. ;)
Strangely, despite all the new craft beers now on the market, I haven't
seen a bottle of SM in years.
nb
> Agreed, my favourite commercial beer is Cooper's Sparkling Ale, I
> often prefer it close to room temperature. On a very hot day after
> doing a lot of work though and I do like it nicely chilled.
My epiphany came when I had an early job as a janitor at the CA
State Fair. I hadda clean one of the exhibit halls and it had a
diplay from the Philippines. It included a pyramid of San Miguel beer
sixers. Being the evil sneaky 20something I was, I figured out how to
unstack the pyrimid to get down deep inside and snag an unopened
bottle. They were room temp, so I was not ready for the flavor I
experienced. Very strong, yet quite flavorful. Not at all what I
expected. I was San Miguel fan (light and dark) for many yrs. ;)
Strangely, despite all the new craft beers now on the market, I haven't
seen a bottle of SM in years.
nb
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Glutton
Feb 5, 2015, 11:41:37 AM2/5/15
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Wowi, Peet's or whatever local chain you have--does it taste nasty too?
notbob
Feb 5, 2015, 12:32:04 PM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05, l not -l <lal...@cujo.com> wrote:
> the warming plate. A very simple, relatively inexpensive solution for the
> occasional cup is to buy a Melitta 1 cup cone and filters
> https://www.melitta.com/en/Product-world-524,69398,72535.html. When I
> bought mine (long ago), the same size cone was called 2-cup and it uses the
> #2 cone filters; it brews 10 ounces (2 cups or 1 mug).
>
> The cone brews a consistently good cup using 2 tablespoons of coffee (7
> grams) and water just off the boil. I have tried several brands and
> varieties of coffee and my preference is 100% Colombian; Community or Eight
> O'clock brands. If this method doesn't produce a good cup, there are only
> two variables and one constant that could be the cause - brand/variety of
> coffee, which can be experimented with, water which can be replaced with
> bottled/distilled and your taste buds which you are stuck with.
I fully agree on all points. I've been using a Melitta one-cup pour
over for over 20 yrs. Gone on to true espresso, French presses, moka
brewers, etc, but have always come back to my little Melitta.
Some tips:
Use a #4 filter instead of a #2. Same price.
Do NOT soak Melitta cone in soapy water!! It will absorb the flavor
of the dish soap. I hadda toss one of mine. The newer versions (open
drip view) may use different plastic, so may no longer be a problem.
Jes be aware.
The paper cone (plain or bleached) WILL remove most flavor laden oils.
If you want ALL the flavor your coffee can deliver, use a French press
(cafetière).
If you decide on a Fr press, here's a good choice:
http://tinyurl.com/o2ccsfp
Good quality, rugged, big enough for one American sized mug. It sez
three cups, but they mean "tasse" cups, which are dbl the size of a
demi-tasse, or about 4 ozs. So, it should be about 12 ozs total, but
some of that is taken up by the press plunger and grounds. It will
still deliver a 10 oz mug full of yer fave java. ;)
nb
>
> On 4-Feb-2015, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It certainly is a mystery to me. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
>
> Perhaps it is that your maker's temperature is too hot, either as brewing or
> On 4-Feb-2015, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It certainly is a mystery to me. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
>
> the warming plate. A very simple, relatively inexpensive solution for the
> occasional cup is to buy a Melitta 1 cup cone and filters
> https://www.melitta.com/en/Product-world-524,69398,72535.html. When I
> bought mine (long ago), the same size cone was called 2-cup and it uses the
> #2 cone filters; it brews 10 ounces (2 cups or 1 mug).
>
> The cone brews a consistently good cup using 2 tablespoons of coffee (7
> grams) and water just off the boil. I have tried several brands and
> varieties of coffee and my preference is 100% Colombian; Community or Eight
> O'clock brands. If this method doesn't produce a good cup, there are only
> two variables and one constant that could be the cause - brand/variety of
> coffee, which can be experimented with, water which can be replaced with
> bottled/distilled and your taste buds which you are stuck with.
I fully agree on all points. I've been using a Melitta one-cup pour
over for over 20 yrs. Gone on to true espresso, French presses, moka
brewers, etc, but have always come back to my little Melitta.
Some tips:
Use a #4 filter instead of a #2. Same price.
Do NOT soak Melitta cone in soapy water!! It will absorb the flavor
of the dish soap. I hadda toss one of mine. The newer versions (open
drip view) may use different plastic, so may no longer be a problem.
Jes be aware.
The paper cone (plain or bleached) WILL remove most flavor laden oils.
If you want ALL the flavor your coffee can deliver, use a French press
(cafetière).
If you decide on a Fr press, here's a good choice:
http://tinyurl.com/o2ccsfp
Good quality, rugged, big enough for one American sized mug. It sez
three cups, but they mean "tasse" cups, which are dbl the size of a
demi-tasse, or about 4 ozs. So, it should be about 12 ozs total, but
some of that is taken up by the press plunger and grounds. It will
still deliver a 10 oz mug full of yer fave java. ;)
nb
notbob
Feb 5, 2015, 12:33:39 PM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05, Glutton <nos...@thanks.org> wrote:
>
> Just as a point or reference, a cup of coffee from Starbuck's, Maui
> Wowi.......
>
> Just as a point or reference, a cup of coffee from Starbuck's, Maui
I thought that was a strain or cannabis.
nb
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 1:08:32 PM2/5/15
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On 2/5/2015 5:46 AM, l not -l wrote:
> On 4-Feb-2015, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
> On 4-Feb-2015, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> It certainly is a mystery to me. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
>
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
>
> Perhaps it is that your maker's temperature is too hot, either as brewing or
> the warming plate. A very simple, relatively inexpensive solution for the
> occasional cup is to buy a Melitta 1 cup cone and filters
> https://www.melitta.com/en/Product-world-524,69398,72535.html. When I
> bought mine (long ago), the same size cone was called 2-cup and it uses the
> #2 cone filters; it brews 10 ounces (2 cups or 1 mug).
>
> The cone brews a consistently good cup using 2 tablespoons of coffee (7
> grams) and water just off the boil. I have tried several brands and
> varieties of coffee and my preference is 100% Colombian; Community or Eight
> O'clock brands. If this method doesn't produce a good cup, there are only
> two variables and one constant that could be the cause - brand/variety of
> coffee, which can be experimented with, water which can be replaced with
> bottled/distilled and your taste buds which you are stuck with.
>
I've brewed coffee a lot of ways. At the office, I pretty much need an
> the warming plate. A very simple, relatively inexpensive solution for the
> occasional cup is to buy a Melitta 1 cup cone and filters
> https://www.melitta.com/en/Product-world-524,69398,72535.html. When I
> bought mine (long ago), the same size cone was called 2-cup and it uses the
> #2 cone filters; it brews 10 ounces (2 cups or 1 mug).
>
> The cone brews a consistently good cup using 2 tablespoons of coffee (7
> grams) and water just off the boil. I have tried several brands and
> varieties of coffee and my preference is 100% Colombian; Community or Eight
> O'clock brands. If this method doesn't produce a good cup, there are only
> two variables and one constant that could be the cause - brand/variety of
> coffee, which can be experimented with, water which can be replaced with
> bottled/distilled and your taste buds which you are stuck with.
>
automatic brewer with filters I can just throw away. I have a French
press that I'd like to use but I can't be washing the grounds down the
sink - it goes against everything I stand for.
Brooklyn1
Feb 5, 2015, 1:12:59 PM2/5/15
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dsi1 wrote:
>
>> It certainly is a mystery to me. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
No matter how much you spend on coffee and equipment you cannot brew
>
>> It certainly is a mystery to me. It doesn't seem to matter what kind of
>> coffee I buy - the brew always come out harsh and weird tasting. As it
>> goes, my options are limited as to how much energy I can spend on
>> brewing an occasional cup of coffee for my clients. I'll drink the stuff
>> myself but my customers deserve better.
good coffee with lousy water... use RO filtered water and you'll never
go back... also everything must be scrupulously clean.
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 1:13:36 PM2/5/15
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hell. I'll order an Americano or brewed coffee if I ever go there. I'd
like to try their blonde roast but they never seem to have that ready
when I'm there. I think they think it's mickymause. The coffee at the
office has a funny unpleasant taste and it's one-dimensional to boot.
notbob
Feb 5, 2015, 1:21:29 PM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> press that I'd like to use but I can't be washing the grounds down the
> sink - it goes against everything I stand for.
Interesting, but I don't understand.
> press that I'd like to use but I can't be washing the grounds down the
> sink - it goes against everything I stand for.
Garbage disposals allow one to dump almost anything down the sewar.
Why the reluctance for coffee grounds, which are pretty organic, are
typically non-toxic, and do not require grinding (I don't have a
garbage disposal). One could put the grounds in a compost bin. I
toss my Melitta grounds, but yes, my Fr press grounds go down the
drain. I'll put 'em in the compost pile I will start in the Spring.
;)
nb
Glutton
Feb 5, 2015, 2:04:11 PM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05 18:13:37 +0000, dsi1 said:
>>> What I really want is a good cup of coffee that I can make or buy
>>> without a lot of mess or fuss.
>>
>> Just as a point or reference, a cup of coffee from Starbuck's, Maui
>> Wowi, Peet's or whatever local chain you have--does it taste nasty too?
>
> We only have Starbuck's over here. Most of their coffee is burnt all to
> hell. I'll order an Americano or brewed coffee if I ever go there. I'd
> like to try their blonde roast but they never seem to have that ready
> when I'm there. I think they think it's mickymause. The coffee at the
> office has a funny unpleasant taste and it's one-dimensional to boot.
Okay, so just to verify, you've never had a copy of coffee that didn't
>>> What I really want is a good cup of coffee that I can make or buy
>>> without a lot of mess or fuss.
>>
>> Just as a point or reference, a cup of coffee from Starbuck's, Maui
>> Wowi, Peet's or whatever local chain you have--does it taste nasty too?
>
> We only have Starbuck's over here. Most of their coffee is burnt all to
> hell. I'll order an Americano or brewed coffee if I ever go there. I'd
> like to try their blonde roast but they never seem to have that ready
> when I'm there. I think they think it's mickymause. The coffee at the
> office has a funny unpleasant taste and it's one-dimensional to boot.
taste nasty, not at home, not at a coffee shop?
Glutton
Feb 5, 2015, 2:05:57 PM2/5/15
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chain that servfes Hawaiian coffee.
notbob
Feb 5, 2015, 2:13:27 PM2/5/15
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On 2015-02-05, Glutton <nos...@thanks.org> wrote:
> On 2015-02-05 17:33:35 +0000, notbob said:
>> I thought that was a strain or cannabis.
> I thought it was an Hawaiian coffee chain. It turns out it's a coffee
> chain that servfes Hawaiian coffee.
But wait!......
> On 2015-02-05 17:33:35 +0000, notbob said:
>> I thought that was a strain or cannabis.
> I thought it was an Hawaiian coffee chain. It turns out it's a coffee
> chain that servfes Hawaiian coffee.
http://www.cannabissearch.com/strains/maui-wowie/
It's two ....two!.... two totally unrelated items in one!!
Three guesses which came first and --since I live in CO, not HI--
which one I give a rat's ass about. ;)
nb
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dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 2:48:01 PM2/5/15
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Jeßus
Feb 5, 2015, 2:51:53 PM2/5/15
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anything to do with caring for the environment. It'll be something
monumentally stupid, whatever it is...
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 2:55:58 PM2/5/15
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As far as good coffee goes, I'll take whatever I can get. A good cup makes me very happy but the reality is I drink coffee for the cafeine.
Becca EmaNymton
Feb 5, 2015, 3:01:05 PM2/5/15
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On 2/4/2015 5:12 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:54:14 -1000, dsi1
> On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 12:54:14 -1000, dsi1
>> It doesn't seem to matter what coffee I get - they all taste nasty. Why
>> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
>> should just get a Keurig already.
>
> Maybe you don't like coffee.
>> is a mystery. I'm thinking that it's got to be the coffee maker. I
>> should just get a Keurig already.
>
Have to admit, I am not a coffee lover, either. My husband drinks
coffee, so we make decaff coffee every morning, but you never see me
order coffee in a restaurant. Neither one of us like the taste of beer,
either, so we never have beer in the house.
Becca
Cheri
Feb 5, 2015, 3:05:15 PM2/5/15
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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9dc704ff-827f-4010-af76-
> The sink in question is in my office. There's no garbage disposal and I'm
> reluctant to start a grind collection in my P-trap. It would be great if I
> could dump ground down there. I don't believe that I should.
I had a plumber tell me never to put coffee grounds down the drain. He said
they can adhere to greasy bits and cause a clog, now...is that true, I don't
know, but I don't put them down at all since then.
Cheri
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 3:16:16 PM2/5/15
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On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 10:05:15 AM UTC-10, Cheri wrote:
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message news:9dc704ff-827f-4010-af76-
I could probably try dumping my coffee grounds down the sink. I suppose it's easy enough to take the trap out and check it after a while. Mostly I use this office sink for water and to wash my hands so there's never any grease down the sink.
> "dsi1" <> wrote in message news:9dc704ff-827f-4010-af76-
Glutton
Feb 5, 2015, 3:36:34 PM2/5/15
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the US portion of the mainland.
Cheri
Feb 5, 2015, 3:49:30 PM2/5/15
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"dsi1" <dsi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d911813e-5c08-4573-9b38-
> I could probably try dumping my coffee grounds down the sink. I suppose
> it's easy enough to take the trap out and check it after a while. Mostly I
> use this office sink for water and to wash my hands so there's never any
> grease down the sink.
It probably would be fine in that case unless there's a lot of soap scum in
the pipes. :-)
Cheri
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Feb 5, 2015, 4:43:41 PM2/5/15
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On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 11:28:38 AM UTC-10, l not -l wrote:
> On 5-Feb-2015, wrote:
> in has a trash can for non-recyclable "stuff" and, they are always lined
> with little plastic bags to keep the trash can from getting nasty from
> liquids/sticky stuff. Maybe we're just odd, here on the mainland. 8-)
That's a pretty good idea. Your ways are strange, but sometimes they are wise. We're stuck with using those 5 gallon buckets from Homedept. We line the buckets with coconut leaves. I have no problem with dumping out the grinds in the bucket but the glass container and filter have to be rinsed out in the sink. I suppose I could just leave it festering on there. Is that what people on the mainland do?
>
> --
> Change Cujo to Juno for email.
> On 5-Feb-2015, wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:21:29 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > > On 2015-02-05, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > press that I'd like to use but I can't be washing the grounds down the
> > > >
> > > > sink - it goes against everything I stand for.
> > >
> > > Interesting, but I don't understand.
> > >
> > > Garbage disposals allow one to dump almost anything down the sewar.
> > > Why the reluctance for coffee grounds, which are pretty organic, are
> > > typically non-toxic, and do not require grinding (I don't have a
> > > garbage disposal). One could put the grounds in a compost bin. I
> > > toss my Melitta grounds, but yes, my Fr press grounds go down the
> > > drain. I'll put 'em in the compost pile I will start in the Spring.
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > nb
> > On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 8:21:29 AM UTC-10, notbob wrote:
> > > On 2015-02-05, dsi1 <ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > press that I'd like to use but I can't be washing the grounds down the
> > > >
> > > > sink - it goes against everything I stand for.
> > >
> > > Interesting, but I don't understand.
> > >
> > > Garbage disposals allow one to dump almost anything down the sewar.
> > > Why the reluctance for coffee grounds, which are pretty organic, are
> > > typically non-toxic, and do not require grinding (I don't have a
> > > garbage disposal). One could put the grounds in a compost bin. I
> > > toss my Melitta grounds, but yes, my Fr press grounds go down the
> > > drain. I'll put 'em in the compost pile I will start in the Spring.
> > > ;)
> > >
> >
> > The sink in question is in my office. There's no garbage disposal and I'm
> > reluctant to start a grind collection in my P-trap. It would be great if I
> > could dump ground down there. I don't believe that I should.
>
> Is there no trash can? Every office, and hotel for that matter, I've been
> > The sink in question is in my office. There's no garbage disposal and I'm
> > reluctant to start a grind collection in my P-trap. It would be great if I
> > could dump ground down there. I don't believe that I should.
>
> in has a trash can for non-recyclable "stuff" and, they are always lined
> with little plastic bags to keep the trash can from getting nasty from
> liquids/sticky stuff. Maybe we're just odd, here on the mainland. 8-)
That's a pretty good idea. Your ways are strange, but sometimes they are wise. We're stuck with using those 5 gallon buckets from Homedept. We line the buckets with coconut leaves. I have no problem with dumping out the grinds in the bucket but the glass container and filter have to be rinsed out in the sink. I suppose I could just leave it festering on there. Is that what people on the mainland do?
>
> --
> Change Cujo to Juno for email.
sf
Feb 5, 2015, 4:47:55 PM2/5/15
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 02:36:04 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room
wrote:
> >
> > No. You don't want a Keurig.
>
> > No. You don't want a Keurig.
>
> What I really want is a good cup of coffee that I can make or buy without a lot of mess or fuss.
>
Sound like the new place next door will be ideal for you. :)
>
--
A kitchen without a cook is just a room
tert in seattle
Feb 5, 2015, 5:00:05 PM2/5/15
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Bruce wrote:
> I thought they were Maoist rebels in China.
that would be maoi wowie
not to be confused with meowie wowie - a strain of catnip
that would be maoi wowie
not to be confused with meowie wowie - a strain of catnip
sf
Feb 5, 2015, 5:01:47 PM2/5/15
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On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 08:13:37 -1000, dsi1
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> We only have Starbuck's over here. Most of their coffee is burnt all to
> hell. I'll order an Americano or brewed coffee if I ever go there. I'd
> like to try their blonde roast but they never seem to have that ready
> when I'm there. I think they think it's mickymause. The coffee at the
> office has a funny unpleasant taste and it's one-dimensional to boot.
You must have a Midwest taste palate. I don't have a problem with
<ds...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> We only have Starbuck's over here. Most of their coffee is burnt all to
> hell. I'll order an Americano or brewed coffee if I ever go there. I'd
> like to try their blonde roast but they never seem to have that ready
> when I'm there. I think they think it's mickymause. The coffee at the
> office has a funny unpleasant taste and it's one-dimensional to boot.
their roast. I'm working on a pound of their Sumatra coffee and think
it's lovely.
sf
Feb 5, 2015, 5:04:31 PM2/5/15
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On Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:43:38 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
reason why you don't use a paper filter? It's allowed. Might even
make your coffee taste better.
wrote:
>
> That's a pretty good idea. Your ways are strange, but sometimes they are wise. We're stuck with using those 5 gallon buckets from Homedept. We line the buckets with coconut leaves. I have no problem with dumping out the grinds in the bucket but the glass container and filter have to be rinsed out in the sink. I suppose I could just leave it festering on there. Is that what people on the mainland do?
The glass container shouldn't have any grounds in it. Is there some
reason why you don't use a paper filter? It's allowed. Might even
make your coffee taste better.
dsi1
Feb 5, 2015, 5:18:36 PM2/5/15
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