Prison Inmates Upset About Snack Prices...
Gregory Morrow
http://www.suntimes.com/business/1543129,w-prison-snack-shop-prices-042509.article
Inmates, families upset about snack prices
April 25, 2009
FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
"TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having to pay more for Honey Buns and other prison
snack shop items has made inmates at Florida prisons and their families
upset.
The state, which has the nation's third largest state prison system, raised
prices about three weeks ago under a new contract with an outside company.
Since then, the department has gotten approximately 60 phone calls and
letters from families complaining about the increases.
"The prices have increased dramatically," one inmate's family wrote in an
e-mail to the department signed "concerned family." "We have to send money
to our loved one and now he can hardly buy anything substantial. Please can
we fix this?"
Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
Department of Corrections spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said Friday. Prices
at the snack shops, called canteens, were last changed in October. While
it's not unusual to get complaints when prices increase, Plessinger said
there seem to be more this time.
"Prices are going up everywhere," Plessinger said. "We're sympathetic to
them, but it's tough on everyone."
Prices went up March 30. Peanut M&Ms and Snickers bars jumped from 66 cents
to 89 cents. A can of Coke that used to cost 57 cents now costs 89.
But the price increase that has prompted the most outrage is on Honey Buns.
The old price for the cinnamon pastry with icing was 66 cents. Now it's 99
cents. A chocolate variety of the sweet went from 61 cents to $1.49.
The department is looking at possibly substituting another less-expensive
brand, Plessinger said.
Also up: cigarettes. A pack of Marlboro cigarettes used to cost $3.70 but is
now $4.47 -- an increase of 77 cents. The increase is, in part, the result
of 62-cent-per-pack federal sales tax increase that went into effect April
1. Prisons in other states also reported increasing their prices on
cigarettes as a result.
Money from canteen sales goes into the state's general fund, about $30
million last year according to the department. The prices have to be in line
with what the general public pays for goods.
The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network to
supply the commissaries. Mark Jensen, senior vice president of Centric
Group, Keefe's parent company, said the nationwide supplier of products to
correctional facility commissaries doesn't comment on current customers or
contracts.
Inmates use a plastic ID card that works like a debit card to buy items.
Some prisoners have jobs that pay a small amount, but most money is
deposited in an inmate's account by family members.
Jill Lopez has two young children and a fiance in prison in Raiford in north
Florida who she sends between $20 and $40 a week.
"I can't send him any more. There's no way," said Lopez, 46, a Fort Pierce
secretary who makes $12 an hour.
Lopez's fiance, Fred Whyms, 39, has about two years left in prison for
dealing in stolen property. He told her inmates are extremely frustrated
with the price increases and that some items are going missing.
"They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be more
fights. People are going to crankier."
In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
Daytona Beach.
"Prisoners whose families sacrificed to send them money to buy sweets,
drinks, food items, and toiletries were getting assaulted, and their canteen
bags taken from them," he wrote in a newsletter e-mailed to friends. "The
strong ones armed themselves."
In an e-mail, Department of Corrections spokesman Alex Thompson said they
had not gotten any complaints that the price increases resulted in abuse..."
</>
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be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Bobo Bonobo®
> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>
>
bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.
The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.
--Bryan
Visit Bobo Bonobo's Mortuary and Sausage Emporium
On the web @ http://MySpace.com/BoboBonobo
Omelet
"Gregory Morrow" <6u...@ttt9tom.be> wrote:
(way too long of a post to quote)
Speaking from personal experience Greg?
Did not know you were an inmate! Now you can have my sympathy.
--
Peace! Om
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass.
It's about learning to dance in the rain.
-- Anon.
bob
<6u...@ttt9tom.be> shouted from the highest rooftop:
>Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
>prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
Just another monopoly taking advantage of a captive market ...
--
una cerveza mas por favor ...
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maxine
> On Apr 26, 2:19 pm, "Gregory Morrow" <6u...@ttt9tom.be> wrote:> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>
> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.
>
> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.
>
> --Bryan
Having grown up in a family business with vending machines, I have to
take offense. The prices of the goods go up. Haven't you noticed a
few increases in the prices at your local markets? The costs of
equipment, employees and their benefits goes up, the cost of gas and
vehicle maintenance goes up. It sucks for people on the outside who
are trying to pay for food, rent and gas on low wages, and it sucks
even more for prisoners who earn a pittance for the work they do in
the can.
This is not the place to discuss the rest of the injustices of prison
and the justice system. But painting the supplier with slime when
they're trying to make ends meet (and yes, make a profit--that's part
of doing business) is as low a blow as the previous poster's comments.
maxine in ri
George
> On Apr 26, 2:19 pm, "Gregory Morrow" <6u...@ttt9tom.be> wrote:
>> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>>
>>
> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.
>
> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.
So every business is rotten and evil? And you think that the
contractor's costs didn't go up since the last time pricing was set and
they are just stuffing their pockets with loads of extra cash?
Here is a hint. Not every business is rotten and parasitical. If you
haven't noticed its mostly the megabusinesses that got that way by
having the power to purchase the right politicians from both the blue
and red teams. Obama seems to have told you otherwise but there are lots
of folks that have a moral compass and earn an honest living running
efficient businesses.
blake murphy
> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:19:00 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
> <6u...@ttt9tom.be> shouted from the highest rooftop:
>
>>Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
>>prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
>
> Just another monopoly taking advantage of a captive market ...
you'd think with 130 prisons they'd have the clout to negotiate a lower
price...
your pal,
blake
Becca
> maxine <wee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> This is not the place to discuss the rest of the injustices of prison
>> and the justice system. But painting the supplier with slime when
>> they're trying to make ends meet (and yes, make a profit--that's part
>> of doing business) is as low a blow as the previous poster's comments.
>>
>
> cents. And a honey bun is $.49 - not $.99. Sodas are $.25-$.30/can
> when bought in 12-18 packs, not $.89.
>
> And the Taxpayer doesn't pay the lease on their store and use prison
> labor to stock and sell the items, either.
>
> -sw
>
A few years ago, I read a book that was written about prison systems
and how they are a money-maker for state governments. Prison became
incarceration, there was no more rehabilitation of inmates, because if
every inmate was rehabilitated the prison system would shrink and die.
Recidivism became a positive instead of a negative.
The state will put thousands of people on probation, because each
probationer will pay $50 a month probation for a couple of years, each
probationer taking about 5-10 minutes of appointment time. The
probation officer is paid little, while they see 6-8 probationers per
hour, while the state rakes in the money.
I am sure there are other books that will say the opposite is true.
Becca
phil..c
You know the logic make up your own mind
so what do you think ?
TFM®
"Gregory Morrow" <6u...@ttt9tom.be> wrote in
> Jill Lopez has two young children and a fiance in prison in Raiford in
> north
> Florida who she sends between $20 and $40 a week.
He's in fucking prison. Fuck him. He gets everything he needs to survive
given to him.
I've been in jail, so I'm not talking out of my ass.
> "They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
> grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be
> more
> fights. People are going to crankier."
>
> In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
> inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
> Daytona Beach.
Whoa! That's hard to believe. Grown men locked in a building for years
with no sexual outlet other than their bunkmate (or a wonderful device
fashioned from 2 rubber gloves and warm water) actually get cranky and
fight? Knock me over with a feather.
Details on the rubber glove device before anyone asks -
It helps to get a visual, so lace your fingers together. Now imagine a pair
of rubber gloves with all the fingers tied together like that.
Fill each glove with warm water and tie the wrist closed. Then tie the
wrists together.
Go have big happy fun time in the shower.
Wash it off and pass it on if you feel generous.
Those lucky enough to work in the kitchen generally fuck the 5 lb. block of
butter.
Don't ask me how I know these things, and don't eat butter in jail.
TFM�
TFM®
"maxine" <wee...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 26, 3:23 pm, Bobo Bonobo� <CLASS...@BRICK.NET> wrote:
>> On Apr 26, 2:19 pm, "Gregory Morrow" <6u...@ttt9tom.be> wrote:> More
>> liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>>
>> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
>> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.
>>
>> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
>> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
>> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.
>>
>> --Bryan
>
> Having grown up in a family business with vending machines, I have to
> take offense. The prices of the goods go up. Haven't you noticed a
> few increases in the prices at your local markets? The costs of
> equipment, employees and their benefits goes up, the cost of gas and
> vehicle maintenance goes up. It sucks for people on the outside who
> are trying to pay for food, rent and gas on low wages, and it sucks
> even more for prisoners who earn a pittance for the work they do in
> the can.
They're in prison because they belong there. Fuck them and their rights.
They gave those up when they committed the crime.
TFM�
TFM®
"maxine" <wee...@gmail.com> wrote
> This is not the place to discuss the rest of the injustices of prison
> and the justice system.
Injustices of prison? They fucked up, it's supposed to suck in there. It
should be a deterrent, not a vacation.
An old black guy said to me in jail, "You just fouled out in the game of
life. They'll put you back in. Take it easy."
TFM�
TFM®
"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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They surely do, but why should they care?
On the side, I live a couple miles from one of these correctional
facilities. I'd always assumed it was just a prison. Then my buddy told me
it was a nuthouse. I asked him why the sign said correctional institute and
he told me it was for the criminally insane.
Whew, that's a lot better than living by a prison.
TFM�
Omelet
TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > "They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
> > grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be
> > more
> > fights. People are going to crankier."
> >
> > In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
> > inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
> > Daytona Beach.
>
> Whoa! That's hard to believe. Grown men locked in a building for years
> with no sexual outlet other than their bunkmate (or a wonderful device
> fashioned from 2 rubber gloves and warm water) actually get cranky and
> fight? Knock me over with a feather.
>
> Details on the rubber glove device before anyone asks -
> It helps to get a visual, so lace your fingers together. Now imagine a pair
> of rubber gloves with all the fingers tied together like that.
>
> Fill each glove with warm water and tie the wrist closed. Then tie the
> wrists together.
> Go have big happy fun time in the shower.
> Wash it off and pass it on if you feel generous.
>
> Those lucky enough to work in the kitchen generally fuck the 5 lb. block of
> butter.
>
> Don't ask me how I know these things, and don't eat butter in jail.
>
> TFM�
That was TMI, but fascinating. <g>
Omelet
TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
Lovely.
Chemo the Clown
> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> - Show quoted text -
Well said. They don't need no steekin' "snacks", no TV's, stereo's or
any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
time. Who cares if they fuck each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
up and make them pay for the crime.
maxine
> maxine <weed...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > This is not the place to discuss the rest of the injustices of prison
> > and the justice system. But painting the supplier with slime when
> > they're trying to make ends meet (and yes, make a profit--that's part
> > of doing business) is as low a blow as the previous poster's comments.
>
> cents. And a honey bun is $.49 - not $.99. Sodas are $.25-$.30/can
> when bought in 12-18 packs, not $.89.
>
> And the Taxpayer doesn't pay the lease on their store and use prison
> labor to stock and sell the items, either.
>
> -sw
Yes, but you have a choice of where to go, so the store can use this
sort of impulse purchase as either a loss leader or low-profit, high
volume item. I suppose the Prison provisions and contracts division
could have tried to get lower prices, but this is not a necessity, so
they I would assume they figure it's up to the prisoners to decide if
they really need something that's an expensive treat.
Also, if you're buying that soda at the convenience store or quick-e
mart, how much do you pay there? We're not talking about the
prisoners being able to buy a 12-18 pack of soda or a box of
honeybuns.
Economics of scale is a lost art, isn't it?
maxine in ri
maxine
> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote
If you've got the experience, then you've a better right to speak than
I.
I did meet a couple of other people who admitted that they did their
time for crimes they committed. You're rarer than hens' teeth!
maxine in ri
TFM®
"maxine" <wee...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Apr 27, 12:22 pm, TFM� <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote
> If you've got the experience, then you've a better right to speak than
> I.
> I did meet a couple of other people who admitted that they did their
> time for crimes they committed. You're rarer than hens' teeth!
I was never held unjustly. I did the crime, I did the time.
It seems that everybody is innocent when you talk to them inside. Attitudes
change when they get out. If they don't, they end up going back.
I like it out here.
TFM�
Omelet
TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
So what did you do? DUI?
Curious minds are just that. <g>
Private e-mail is fine if you don't want to air it here.
TFM®
"Omelet" <ompo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <49f5fdc8$0$8213$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "maxine" <wee...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2df71a40-e139-4246...@z8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> > On Apr 27, 12:22 pm, TFM� <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>
>> > If you've got the experience, then you've a better right to speak than
>> > I.
>> > I did meet a couple of other people who admitted that they did their
>> > time for crimes they committed. You're rarer than hens' teeth!
>>
>>
>> I was never held unjustly. I did the crime, I did the time.
>>
>> It seems that everybody is innocent when you talk to them inside.
>> Attitudes
>> change when they get out. If they don't, they end up going back.
>> I like it out here.
>>
>> TFM�
>
> So what did you do? DUI?
> Curious minds are just that. <g>
>
> Private e-mail is fine if you don't want to air it here.
Curious minds are merely nosey. I don't want to air it anywhere thank you.
It's enough for everyone to know I've done it.
TFM�
Omelet
TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
<smooch> It's all good, and yes, I have a big nose. ;-)
Pete C.
TFM� wrote:
>
> They're in prison because they belong there. Fuck them and their rights.
> They gave those up when they committed the crime.
>
> TFM�
Presuming they actually did commit the crime. Have you not noticed the
ever growing list of folks proven to have been wrongly convicted, or the
growing list of "crime lab" folks now in prison for evidence tampering
and similar?
Bobo Bonobo®
Give this man a job at Abu Grahib.
--Bryan listen @ http://www.MySpace.com/TheBonobos
"The 1960's called. They want their recipe back."
--Steve Wertz in rec.food.cooking 4-20-2009
Bobo Bonobo®
> "Omelet" <ompome...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ompomelet-10D22...@news-wc.giganews.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <49f5fdc8$0$8213$ec3e2...@news.usenetmonster.com>,
> > TFM® <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:2df71a40-e139-4246...@z8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> >> > On Apr 27, 12:22 pm, TFM® <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> > If you've got the experience, then you've a better right to speak than
> >> > I.
> >> > I did meet a couple of other people who admitted that they did their
> >> > time for crimes they committed. You're rarer than hens' teeth!
>
> >> I was never held unjustly. I did the crime, I did the time.
>
> >> It seems that everybody is innocent when you talk to them inside.
> >> Attitudes
> >> change when they get out. If they don't, they end up going back.
> >> I like it out here.
>
> >> TFM®
>
> > So what did you do? DUI?
> > Curious minds are just that. <g>
>
> > Private e-mail is fine if you don't want to air it here.
>
> Curious minds are merely nosey. I don't want to air it anywhere thank you.
> It's enough for everyone to know I've done it.
>
Maybe you could change your moniker to OTL® (One Time Loser)
Gregory Morrow
Sqwertz wrote:
> Becca <be...@hal-pc.org> wrote:
>
> > The state will put thousands of people on probation, because each
> > probationer will pay $50 a month probation for a couple of years, each
> > probationer taking about 5-10 minutes of appointment time. The
> > probation officer is paid little, while they see 6-8 probationers per
> > hour, while the state rakes in the money.
>
> Probationers in Travis County, TX pay over $120 month as a base fee
> on top of any other restitution and tuitions for certain programs.
> 75% of people on probation in TX get violated and sent back through
> the courts and onto prison. Why? Because they can't pay.
>
> > I am sure there are other books that will say the opposite is true.
>
> I never really beleived it myself until somebody showed me the
> economics and PL's of some of the outsourced prisons. Criminals are
> big business for the States, and it's amazing that the Federal
> Government hasn't done anything about it.
>
> ObFood: The $.99 Honey-Bun is just the tip of the iceberg.
>
Heehee...if we were cellmates would *you* be my "Honey-Bun", Steve...???
;-p
--
Best
Greg
Chemo the Clown
> Chemo the Clown <an...@peak.org> wrote:
>
> > any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
> > time. Who cares if they fuck each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
> > by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
> > who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
> > up and make them pay for the crime.
>
>
> -sw
Gotta a nice ring to it, doncha think? Of course, most of these
bleeding heart liberals would have a different take on the low life
criminals if they were the ones that were the victim. I'm betting
their tune would change if it was their wife or daughter that got
raped, tortured and then killed and dumped in the wood. Oh
wait...they'll be saying that the poor murderer had a terrible
childhood and he might as well get life but let's give the jerk all
the comforts of home. Toss 'em in jail, make 'em work for nothing and
let 'em serve the time.
TFM®
"Chemo the Clown" <an...@peak.org> wrote in message
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It appears that Dr. Wertz is a liberal. I hear he's scared of guns too.
Having been in jail, I can assure you that most convicts are liberals as
well. Hardly any are scared of guns.
TFM�
TFM®
"Bobo Bonobo�" <CLAS...@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
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Another liberal dragged out.
TFM�
TFM®
"Bobo Bonobo�" <CLAS...@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
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Maybe you could suck my dick and let me come all over your fucking face.
I'll have a tossed salad when your finished.
TFM�
Bobo Bonobo®
> "Bobo Bonobo®" <CLASS...@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
You're such a compassionate guy. Perhaps you have rage towards
inmates, even the wrongly convicted because you had to suck their
dicks. Maybe they didn't pull out, and shot their whole load in your
mouth.
Oh, and you're such a dumb White trash that you don't know the
difference between "your" and "you're."
You *should* realize that prisons should work to rehabilitate anyone
who might be released someday. Tormenting and dehumanizing not only
make the inmate more likely to re-offend upon release, they make the
rest of society complicit in something approaching torture. You're
like an abused child who doesn't say, "The abuse stops with me." No.
You think: I was mistreated in prison, so I want everyone else to be
mistreated too.
I've spent the last couple of weeks feeling sorry for you for the
shitty things that some here have said about your late wife and all
that, but those who don't pity are unworthy of pity. The American
prison system is the shame of this nation. That, and the way we
neglect our war veterans. No wonder that Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo
happened. America tortures, and you cheerlead. If you want to be
treated with compassion...
TFM®
"Bobo Bonobo�" <CLAS...@BRICK.NET> wrote in message
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Ok, you can spellcheck, I can facefuck. Get the fuck over it.
I can honestly say that I've never had sex with a man, nor have I ever had
my ass whipped in jail.
Fuck you and your pity. If I need anything from you I'll take it.
TFM�
TFM®
"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> "maxine" <wee...@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> This is not the place to discuss the rest of the injustices of prison
>>> and the justice system.
>>
>> Injustices of prison? They fucked up, it's supposed to suck in there.
>> It
>> should be a deterrent, not a vacation.
>
> "I just wish for once that you could be in my shoes, Mr. Prosecutor,
> and then you would know something that you don't know: mercy! That
> the concept of a society is based on the quality of that mercy; its
> sense of fair play; its sense of justice! But I guess that's like
> asking a bear to shit in the toilet."
>
> "For a nation of pigs, it sure seems funny that you don't eat them!
> Jesus Christ forgave the bastards, but I can't! I hate! I hate you!
> I hate your nation! And I hate your people! And I fuck your sons and
> daughters because they're pigs! You're all pigs!"
Source? It's good.
TFM�
Bobo Bonobo®
blake murphy
> "blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:1f5m28fui82n2$.7p8qp4yrj5mm$.dlg@40tude.net...
>> On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:53:47 +1200, bob wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 14:19:00 -0500, "Gregory Morrow"
>>> <6u...@ttt9tom.be> shouted from the highest rooftop:
>>>
>>>>Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets
>>>>the
>>>>prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be
>>>>lowered,
>>>
>>> Just another monopoly taking advantage of a captive market ...
>>
>> you'd think with 130 prisons they'd have the clout to negotiate a lower
>> price...
>
> They surely do, but why should they care?
>
why would they want the inmates to be pissed off all the time?
blake
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"blake murphy" <blakepm...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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The only way to keep them truly happy would be to open the gates and let
them come and go as they please. Most would return nightly for the free
room and board.
TFM�
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"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> TFM� <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>> "I just wish for once that you could be in my shoes, Mr. Prosecutor,
>>> and then you would know something that you don't know: mercy! That
>>> the concept of a society is based on the quality of that mercy; its
>>> sense of fair play; its sense of justice! But I guess that's like
>>> asking a bear to shit in the toilet."
>>>
>>> "For a nation of pigs, it sure seems funny that you don't eat them!
>>> Jesus Christ forgave the bastards, but I can't! I hate! I hate you!
>>> I hate your nation! And I hate your people! And I fuck your sons and
>>> daughters because they're pigs! You're all pigs!"
>>
>> Source? It's good.
>
> It's one of the most dramatic scenes in cinematography, IMO:
> Midnight Express (1978). Download it now, and not just for that
> scene. It'll make your little jail stint seem like a birthday
> party.
Downloading as instructed.
TFM�
martinb...@gmail.com
INMATES. I HAVE TO PUT MONEY IN MY SON'S ACCOUNT THE BEST WAY I
CAN,WITH NO JOB AND UNABLE TO FIND ONE RIGHT NOW. IT'S NOT RIGHT!
LET'S GET THE PRICE'S BACK DOWN,ASAP!!!! BEFORE THE PRICE'S WENT UP HE
COULD GET ALOT AND NOW HE CAN'T GET MUCH AT ALL. YES,THEY ARE IN
PRISON BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN AND HAVE NEEDS!!!!!!!THEY NEED THESE
ITEMS TO SURVIVE,THEY DON'T GET MUCH FOOD AT CHOW SO THEY DEPEND ON
CANTEEN ITEMS! SO, LET'S PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE HIGH PRICE'S,
"GET THEM DOWN PLEASE"!! IT HELPS THE INMATES AS WELL AS THE FAMILIES
THAT GIVE THEM MONEY!
THANK YOU;
CONCERNED PARENT
Gregory Morrow wrote:
> More liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/business/1543129,w-prison-snack-shop-prices-042509.article
>
> Inmates, families upset about snack prices
>
>
> April 25, 2009
>
> FROM THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>
> "TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Having to pay more for Honey Buns and other prison
> snack shop items has made inmates at Florida prisons and their families
> upset.
>
> The state, which has the nation's third largest state prison system, raised
> prices about three weeks ago under a new contract with an outside company.
> Since then, the department has gotten approximately 60 phone calls and
> letters from families complaining about the increases.
>
> "The prices have increased dramatically," one inmate's family wrote in an
> e-mail to the department signed "concerned family." "We have to send money
> to our loved one and now he can hardly buy anything substantial. Please can
> we fix this?"
>
> Officials are working with the company that provides the goods and sets the
> prices at Florida's about 130 prisons to see if some prices can be lowered,
> Department of Corrections spokeswoman Gretl Plessinger said Friday. Prices
> at the snack shops, called canteens, were last changed in October. While
> it's not unusual to get complaints when prices increase, Plessinger said
> there seem to be more this time.
>
> "Prices are going up everywhere," Plessinger said. "We're sympathetic to
> them, but it's tough on everyone."
>
> Prices went up March 30. Peanut M&Ms and Snickers bars jumped from 66 cents
> to 89 cents. A can of Coke that used to cost 57 cents now costs 89.
>
> But the price increase that has prompted the most outrage is on Honey Buns.
> The old price for the cinnamon pastry with icing was 66 cents. Now it's 99
> cents. A chocolate variety of the sweet went from 61 cents to $1.49.
>
> The department is looking at possibly substituting another less-expensive
> brand, Plessinger said.
>
> Also up: cigarettes. A pack of Marlboro cigarettes used to cost $3.70 but is
> now $4.47 -- an increase of 77 cents. The increase is, in part, the result
> of 62-cent-per-pack federal sales tax increase that went into effect April
> 1. Prisons in other states also reported increasing their prices on
> cigarettes as a result.
>
> Money from canteen sales goes into the state's general fund, about $30
> million last year according to the department. The prices have to be in line
> with what the general public pays for goods.
>
> The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network to
> supply the commissaries. Mark Jensen, senior vice president of Centric
> Group, Keefe's parent company, said the nationwide supplier of products to
> correctional facility commissaries doesn't comment on current customers or
> contracts.
>
> Inmates use a plastic ID card that works like a debit card to buy items.
> Some prisoners have jobs that pay a small amount, but most money is
> deposited in an inmate's account by family members.
>
> Jill Lopez has two young children and a fiance in prison in Raiford in north
> Florida who she sends between $20 and $40 a week.
>
> "I can't send him any more. There's no way," said Lopez, 46, a Fort Pierce
> secretary who makes $12 an hour.
>
> Lopez's fiance, Fred Whyms, 39, has about two years left in prison for
> dealing in stolen property. He told her inmates are extremely frustrated
> with the price increases and that some items are going missing.
>
> "They're all freaking out," Lopez said in a telephone interview. "You have
> grown men that are hungry. What's going to happen? There're going to be more
> fights. People are going to crankier."
>
> In some places that has already happened, according to Charles Norman, an
> inmate serving a life sentence at the Tomoka Correctional Institution in
> Daytona Beach.
>
> "Prisoners whose families sacrificed to send them money to buy sweets,
> drinks, food items, and toiletries were getting assaulted, and their canteen
> bags taken from them," he wrote in a newsletter e-mailed to friends. "The
> strong ones armed themselves."
>
> In an e-mail, Department of Corrections spokesman Alex Thompson said they
> had not gotten any complaints that the price increases resulted in abuse..."
>
> </>
>
>
> Copyright 2009 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
> be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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> On Apr 27, 9:18 am, TFM® <hillbilly...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "maxine" <weed...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>
> > > On Apr 26, 3:23 pm, Bobo Bonobo® <CLASS...@BRICK.NET> wrote:
> > >> liberal bleeding-heart crybabying, lol... :
>
> > >> You're such an asshole. You'd make a good prison guard yourself. I
> > >> bet you pulled the wings off of flies as a kid.
>
> > >> The reason the prices are being raised is so that some parasite
> > >> contractor can skim money. Did you hear about Obama's plans for
> > >> student loans? It involves cutting out parasites.
>
> > >> --Bryan
>
> > > Having grown up in a family business with vending machines, I have to
> > > take offense. The prices of the goods go up. Haven't you noticed a
> > > few increases in the prices at your local markets? The costs of
> > > equipment, employees and their benefits goes up, the cost of gas and
> > > vehicle maintenance goes up. It sucks for people on the outside who
> > > are trying to pay for food, rent and gas on low wages, and it sucks
> > > even more for prisoners who earn a pittance for the work they do in
> > > the can.
>
> > They're in prison because they belong there. Fuck them and their rights.
> > They gave those up when they committed the crime.
>
> > TFM®- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Well said. They don't need no steekin' "snacks", no TV's, stereo's or
> any other luxury. They committed a crime and now they should pay the
> time. Who cares if they fuck each other. Cruel and unusual punishment
> by having them work their ass off for no pay....what about the victims
> who got robbed, beat sensless or killed. For Christ's sake...lock 'em
>
> - Show quoted text -
YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE YOURSELF! YEAH THEY ARE IN THERE FOR WHATEVER THE
REASON IS,BUT THEY ARE STILL HUMAN YOU JERKOFF..AND I HOPE THAT
SOMEDAY YOU WILL BE RIGHT THERE WITH THE REST OF THEM,LET YOU SEE JUST
HOW THINGS "REALLY""ARE!
CONCERNED PARENT
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If you didn't shout (all capitals) perhaps someone would listen to you.
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Mack A. Damia
I seem to recall an ex-con telling me that it was one system with
headquarters in St. Louis. Don't recall a name, though. They are in
business to make a profit.
He also told me that Barbara Bush and other politico-types own
sizeable portions of the enterprise.
Explosion in prison construction in the 80s and 90s - explosion in
arrests for, say, minor drug offenses during the same period.
Two plus two still equal four.
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mad
On Sun, 10 May 2009 08:27:09 -0700 (PDT), martinb...@gmail.com
wrote:
notbob
> He also told me that Barbara Bush and other politico-types own
> sizeable portions of the enterprise.
>
> Explosion in prison construction in the 80s and 90s - explosion in
> arrests for, say, minor drug offenses during the same period.
This due to incarceration having become a profit based business as opposed
to merely a necessary social evil. Can't make no money if them prisons
aren't full. :|
nb
Mack A. Damia
This is the company..
"The department contracts with Missouri-based Keefe Commissary Network
to supply the commissaries..."
A little gold mine.
--
mad