Donating to the Food Bank

[jmcquown]

There's going to be a big event/food bank drive on Dataw on 10/29/17.
It's in conjunction with a golf tournament.

The organizers are going to set out 19 collection bins around the island
that morning for food donations. One of the bins will be just down the
street. I'll be donating.

They're asking for *canned* food due to the long shelf-life. Also, the
collection bins will be sitting outside for hours. No frozen or
refrigerated food, please. Oh, and the people coming around to pick up
the donations that afternoon won't have any way to guard against glass
bottles/jars breaking so they'd rather none of those, either.

I was told along with canned vegetables the emphasis is really on
protein. Peanut butter (in plastic jars) was suggested. Along with
canned beans, I'm thinking dried beans. Canned broth. Rice is a starch
but if, as I suspect, many of the recipients will be local migrant farm
workers, perhaps they might like some rice with those beans. More
protein: canned chunk chicken, tuna, salmon. Spam.

I'm also thinking canned fruit. Not everything is about protein.

How about some dried herbs and spices?

Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this is
indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably sick of them.

Jill

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:42:15 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>
> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
> the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this is
> indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
> have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably sick of them.
>
> Jill
>
>

Don't shoot the messenger but how about donating some boxes of
Hamburger Helper or boxes of macaroni and/or spaghetti? These
are all shelf stable items.

[jmcquown]

I did inquire about dried pasta and things like that. She said of
course but she kept mentioning protein. The thing about Hamburger
Helper is you have to add the ground beef. However, since I've already
got canned tuna on my list... no reason not to get Tuna Helper! Is
there a [canned] Chicken Helper? If not there should be. ;)

Jill

[Bruce]

I wouldn't donate Hamburger Helper. You could end up in jail for
trying to poison people. Here are the ingredients of Betty Crocker
Hamburger Helper Classic Three Cheese:

Enriched Pasta (Wheat Flour, Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous
Sulfate, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Corn Starch,
Maltodextrin, Salt, Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Iron, Thiamin
Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Monosodium Glutamate, Sugar,
Ricotta Cheese* (Whey, Milkfat, Lactic Acid, Salt), Parmesan Cheese*
(Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Citric Acid, Blue Cheese*
(Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Partially Hydrogenated Soybean
Oil, Cultured Nonfat Milk, Monoglycerides, Color (Yellow Lakes 5 & 6,
Yellows 5 & 6, Red 40 Lake), Yeast Extract, Whey, Natural Flavor, Blue
Cheese* (Milk, Salt, Cheese Cultures, Enzymes), Enzyme Modified Blue
Cheese (Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Enzyme Modified Cheddar
Cheese (Milk, Cheese Cultures, Salt, Enzymes), Sodium Phosphate,
Silicon Dioxide (Anticaking Agent). *Dried.

[Casa lo pensa]

On 10/10/2017 9:51 PM, Bruce wrote:
> Here are the ingredients


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[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Some sort of Chicken Helper comes to mind and that could be made
with canned chicken.

Hmmmmmm, how about a few cans of corned beef hash? Or some cans
chili, with or without beans?

[Julie Bove]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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The seasonings/spices I give are salt, pepper, chili powder, parsley,
cinnamon and Italian seasoning. I also do canned chicken, turkey, tuna,
beef, etc. Also canned ravioli and chili. I also like to donate things they
might not get a lot of such as olives. And if you can find these, they are
wonderful! We used to take them to dance conventions. Can be eaten as is and
come with a fork. I have also gotten good feedback from recipients who
received donations of them.

http://www.stdalfour.us/Market.cfm/category/11/

[Julie Bove]

<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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But those are not canned and... The people who receive them may not have the
necessary ingredients to make them. I remember hearing on the radio some
years ago about a woman who had so little that she didn't even have a pan or
a stove. They said if you were going to donate to keep that in mind. Most
anything can be eaten straight from the can. Might be better if chilled or
heated but...

[Julie Bove]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Nuts come in a can. You can get canned chicken and noodles/dumplings, etc.
Often located on the bottom shelf where the canned chicken and tuna are.

[Julie Bove]

"Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:37:58 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> I did inquire about dried pasta and things like that. She said of
>> course but she kept mentioning protein. The thing about Hamburger
>> Helper is you have to add the ground beef. However, since I've already
>> got canned tuna on my list... no reason not to get Tuna Helper! Is
>> there a [canned] Chicken Helper? If not there should be. ;)
>

> Oh, and as I told Julie, DO NOT buy food just to give it to the food
> bank. Just donate the money you would have spent directly to the food
> bank.
>
> The food bank buys food from their USDA contractors (food
> manufacturers) at about an 80% discount. That box of Tuna Helper you
> bought for $1.75, the food bank could have bought 4 boxes for that
> same price, and had $.35 left over to help pay for their facilities.

You did tell me that. But that being said, I still donate items. I can get
items for free. Currently I have people in my own life who are needy. So I
give to them. Otherwise I would give to the food bank.

[Cheryl]

Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> Wrote in message:

> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:37:58 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>

>> I did inquire about dried pasta and things like that. She said of
>> course but she kept mentioning protein. The thing about Hamburger
>> Helper is you have to add the ground beef. However, since I've already
>> got canned tuna on my list... no reason not to get Tuna Helper! Is
>> there a [canned] Chicken Helper? If not there should be. ;)
>

> Oh, and as I told Julie, DO NOT buy food just to give it to the food
> bank. Just donate the money you would have spent directly to the food
> bank.
>
> The food bank buys food from their USDA contractors (food
> manufacturers) at about an 80% discount. That box of Tuna Helper you
> bought for $1.75, the food bank could have bought 4 boxes for that
> same price, and had $.35 left over to help pay for their facilities.
>

> -sw
>

Good stuff. Thanks.
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[Cheryl]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> Wrote in message:

I love that you take advantage of coupons and free offers to give
to food banks. I need to remember that when I see the same types
of offers. Sometimes I'll see a BOGO and give the freebie to my
neighbor because they struggle too sometimes but I don't always
think about it f for canned food and other non perishables. But
if I see a buy one 5lb bag of potatoes and get one free I always
grab that free one even though I'd never use it myself

[Cheryl]

Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:

Lamest post everrrrrr. Lol

[Cheryl]

"Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> Wrote in message:
>

I don't know about this but do those being recipients have the
option to just not take what they can't use, while others could
make use of something like that? Or do they just get a bag of
stuff and there are things they can't use so they toss it? That
doesn't make sense to me

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:45:08 AM UTC-5, Julie Bove wrote:
>
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote in message

>
> > On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:42:15 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
> >>
> >> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
> >> the food bank bin?
> >>

> >> Jill
> >>
> >>
> > Don't shoot the messenger but how about donating some boxes of
> > Hamburger Helper or boxes of macaroni and/or spaghetti? These
> > are all shelf stable items.
>
> But those are not canned and...
>
>

Learn to read, dummy. Jill's post said they are requesting
***shelf-stable AND/OR canned items.*** About the only people
that will be, if any, eating directly out of the can are going
to be transients aka drifter/hobo/homeless.

[Bruce]

Seriously, if you ever get a really weird zit, ask yourself if you had
Hamburger Helper the day before.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 2:12:26 AM UTC-5, Cheryl wrote:
>
> I don't know about this but do those being recipients have the
> option to just not take what they can't use, while others could
> make use of something like that? Or do they just get a bag of
> stuff and there are things they can't use so they toss it? That
> doesn't make sense to me
>
>

Here's the boxes are already made up with the items they will receive.
My co-worker's aunt is a deaf-mute and she qualifies for the free
food items. Sometimes it is so much of some things she gives them
to her. She has received 5 or 6 boxes of giant family sized of
Cheerios along with jugs of apple juice and cans and cans of fruit.

[Janet]

In article <ork0e3$g9l$1...@dont-email.me>, j_mc...@comcast.net says...

>
> There's going to be a big event/food bank drive on Dataw on 10/29/17.
> It's in conjunction with a golf tournament.
>
> The organizers are going to set out 19 collection bins around the island
> that morning for food donations. One of the bins will be just down the
> street. I'll be donating.
>
> They're asking for *canned* food due to the long shelf-life. Also, the
> collection bins will be sitting outside for hours. No frozen or
> refrigerated food, please. Oh, and the people coming around to pick up
> the donations that afternoon won't have any way to guard against glass
> bottles/jars breaking so they'd rather none of those, either.
>
> I was told along with canned vegetables the emphasis is really on
> protein. Peanut butter (in plastic jars) was suggested. Along with
> canned beans, I'm thinking dried beans.

Dried beans need plenty of cooking, People who are homeless don't have
facilities and poor people often don't cook because of the fuel cost...
so rice spices and dry herbs might not be usable. Best to give stuff
that can be eaten cold from a tin (tuna,salmon, fruit, canned rice) or
just warmed up quickly (baked beans).

Janet UK

[Janet]

In article <9199e9f5-a369-4263...@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
useless and they can't cook anything.

Janet UK

[Gary]

Janet wrote:
>
> Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
> useless and they can't cook anything.

So you helped them out a bit, right?

Yep, I didn't think so.

Anyone can build a fire outside and cook anything.
Your story was completely made up.

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 3:08 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> Bruce <Br...@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:
>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 20:16:46 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:42:15 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
>>>> the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this is
>>>> indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
>>>> have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably sick of them.
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Don't shoot the messenger but how about donating some boxes of
>>> Hamburger Helper or boxes of macaroni and/or spaghetti? These
>>> are all shelf stable items.
>>
>> I wouldn't donate Hamburger Helper. You could end up in jail for
>> trying to poison people. Here are the ingredients of Betty Crocker
>> Hamburger Helper Classic Three Cheese:
>>
>> Enriched Pasta (Wheat Flour, Durum Wheat Flour, Niacin, Ferrous
>>

(snipped)
>
> Lamest post everrrrrr. Lol
>
I'm pretty sure hungry people are not worried about the ingredients list.

Jill

[Cheri]

"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:59ddc3d4$0$29847$b1db1813$e2fc...@news.astraweb.com...

>> I wouldn't donate Hamburger Helper. You could end up in jail for
>> trying to poison people. Here are the ingredients of Betty Crocker
>> Hamburger Helper Classic Three Cheese:

<ingredients snipped>

> Lamest post everrrrrr. Lol

Truly.

Cheri

[jmcquown]

Gary, Gary, Gary... do you really think people don't get their power or
water cut off due to lack of payment? One morning my next door neighbor
called asking if there is a water outage. I'd just gotten out of the
shower so no, it's not a broken water main or anything like that. Turns
out she hadn't paid the bill in who knows how long so the company shut
it off. I know what you're going to say... she lives on Dataw and
couldn't pay the water bill? It's true. She's having a hard time. It
can happen to anyone.

Her house has been on the market for years; she recently changed real
estate agents hoping for better results. She's gotten rid of
non-essentials like television service. She stopped paying the Dataw
dues/assessments a couple of years ago and they're about to put a lien
on her home. She's 72 years old and her only source of income is Social
Security. Her daughter and her former DIL (she's not on speaking terms
with her son) help her out when they can but they live in another state.
I took her grocery shopping a few months ago, my treat.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 1:08 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:37:58 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>

>> On 10/10/2017 11:16 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:42:15 PM UTC-5, Jill McQuown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
>>>> the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this is
>>>> indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
>>>> have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably sick of them.
>>>>

>>> Don't shoot the messenger but how about donating some boxes of
>>> Hamburger Helper or boxes of macaroni and/or spaghetti? These
>>> are all shelf stable items.
>>>
>> I did inquire about dried pasta and things like that. She said of
>> course but she kept mentioning protein. The thing about Hamburger
>> Helper is you have to add the ground beef. However, since I've already
>> got canned tuna on my list... no reason not to get Tuna Helper! Is
>> there a [canned] Chicken Helper? If not there should be. ;)
>

> Food banks are not supposed to be the recipients only source of food.
> Any food item, even if it requires the purchase of an extra item to go
> with it, helps lower the overall food bill. Hamburger Helper and the
> like are perfectly welcomed.
>
> A little trade secret: Often event organizers are pushing the
> proteins, not just because they are (sometimes) good sources of
> nutrition, but because they WEIGH THE MOST. Food banks work on the
> weight of the donated foods. The food bank will weigh the total of
> the donations collected and tell the event organizers, "You raised
> 5,613 pounds of food..." - and then they'll divide the pounds by 1.2 -
> "... that will provide 4,678 meals to people in need!" (then everybody
> claps and cheers).
>
> Often times that translates into a tax write-off as a qualifying
> charitable donation of $1 per meal for the event organizers (such as
> your Dataw Island Club). Or, less evil - used to meet various other
> frivolous internal goals for their organization or competition - such
> as when elementary schools get a prize for collecting more than any
> other school.
>
> So that box of Hamburger Helper or that bag of marshmallows that only
> weighs 4 ounces doesn't really translate into the numbers that matter
> to them.
>
> But by all means, donate that stuff. Screw what the organizers are
> promoting as acceptable donations. A can of beans only saves a family
> $.60. But a box of Hamburger Helper saves them, what, $1.75(?) :-)
>
> They even have a calculator for it. 1.2 is the magic number that all
> food banks use per USDA and IRS guidelines.
>
> https://www.ffa.org/SiteCollectionDocuments/hunger_mealmath.pdf
>
> -sw
>
Good information, thanks!

Jill

[MaryL]

On 10/10/2017 9:42 PM, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
> the food bank bin?  I thought about canned tomatoes.  But if this is
> indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
> have been picking the tomatoes for months.  They're probably sick of them.
>
> Jill

Cans of the much-maligned Spam would be good for this purpose. Also,
thanks for participating!

MaryL

[Sqwerts]

On 10/10/2017 10:39 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> (we try and put those in a separate tote).

Steve Wertz - unrepentant woman stalker and total head case begging poor
Omelet to shoot him with a sniper rifle in austin.food:

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Hide the Ho Ho's!!!

[Sqwerts]

On 10/10/2017 11:08 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> A little trade secret:

[Sqwerts]

On 10/10/2017 11:21 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Oh, and as I told Julie, DO NOT buy food

[Casa lo pensa]

On 10/11/2017 1:13 AM, Bruce wrote:
> if you ever get a really weird zit, ask yourself if you had
> Hamburger Helper the day before.

Wow, you know as little about dermatology as you do anything else!

[jinx the minx]

That’s not really practical, either. In many places, you can’t just step
outside and build yourself a fire. Plus, what are you going to build it
with if you don’t already own any supplies or a container to burn in?
Start a bonfire out of sticks in your apartment parking lot?

--
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[Janet]

In article <59DE1952...@att.net>, g.ma...@att.net says...

>
> Janet wrote:
> >
> > Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
> > power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
> > useless and they can't cook anything.
>
> So you helped them out a bit, right?

My remit was teaching their children. Childrens' home problems
affect their education and school experience in ways you probably can't
imagine.

> Anyone can build a fire outside and cook anything.

Unless they live in a smokeless zone, an urban high rise, or a wet
climate.


Janet UK

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 3:07 AM, Cheryl wrote:
> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> Wrote in message:
>>
>> "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
>> news:241zb8p0...@sqwertz.com...
>>>

>>> Oh, and as I told Julie, DO NOT buy food just to give it to the food
>>> bank. Just donate the money you would have spent directly to the food
>>> bank.
>>>
>>> The food bank buys food from their USDA contractors (food
>>> manufacturers) at about an 80% discount. That box of Tuna Helper you
>>> bought for $1.75, the food bank could have bought 4 boxes for that
>>> same price, and had $.35 left over to help pay for their facilities.
>>
>> You did tell me that. But that being said, I still donate items. I can get
>> items for free. Currently I have people in my own life who are needy. So I
>> give to them. Otherwise I would give to the food bank.
>>
>>
>
> I love that you take advantage of coupons and free offers to give
> to food banks. I need to remember that when I see the same types
> of offers. Sometimes I'll see a BOGO and give the freebie to my
> neighbor because they struggle too sometimes but I don't always
> think about it f for canned food and other non perishables. But
> if I see a buy one 5lb bag of potatoes and get one free I always
> grab that free one even though I'd never use it myself
>

I agree, Cheryl. I'd rather take advantage of BOGO's and use coupons
and donate FOOD. As with any charity, if I just give them money I have
no way of knowing where that money actually goes. Besides, for this
food drive they're asking people to drop off *food*, not checks.
They'll have bins placed all over the island on the 29th. So that's
what they'll get. I've already "shopped" in my pantry. I'll be buying
additional items - always mindful of a sale or a BOGO - to round it out.

Jill

[jmcquown]

Maybe he's thinking of someone living in a clearing in a tent in the
woods... who could dig a small pit and put rocks around it. Gather
kindling and wood. I do hope he has some matches. ;)

Jill

[Cheri]

"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message

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Yes, that's how I like to help out more than sending to organized charities.
Good for you.

Cheri

[Cheri]

"Casa lo pensa" <loo...@U.too> wrote in message
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He might be an expert on zits though. ;-)

Cheri

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 12:39 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 22:42:04 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
>
>
>> I'm also thinking canned fruit. Not everything is about protein.
>>
>> How about some dried herbs and spices?
>
> Bottles of spices are good. They are sturdy bottles and help people
> make better use of the other bland foods such as rice and beans.

That's what I was thinking. Sometimes just a pinch of something makes
all the difference. :)

> Canned fruits are always in short supply in public donations, but the
> food bank buys a lot of canned fruit from their USDA suppliers. The
> name brands like Del Monte, Libby's, etc... sell a lot of stuff to the
> USDA for distribution to food banks.
>
I'll still throw in some canned fruit. And canned diced tomatoes and
tomato sauce. And rice and dried pasta.

>> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put in
>> the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this is
>> indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the ones who
>> have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably sick of them.
>

> Canned tomato products are fine and always useful. This stuff is
> being distributed to all sorts of people, not just migrant workers.

I know the food at the physical food bank isn't limited to the migrant
workers. But there's an extension service way down here. There are a
number of Dataw volunteers who deliver boxes of food to these peoples'
homes on behalf of Second Harvest. I don't know how it works but
sometimes [on the Dataw Net] they ask for a substitute driver to help
drop off boxes of food to needy families.

> You can donate anything. Just because they can't afford food doesn't
> mean they wouldn't like a bar of chocolate, a box of microwave popcorn
> (not individually-wrapped bags!), candy, pop tarts, jellies/jams,
> smoked oysters, sardines, and other foods that may not be deemed
> exactly "healthy". Some extra-ordinary items like that may be just
> the thing someone needs to brighten up an otherwise bleak situation,
> if only for a few hours.
>
> -sw
>
Very true. With Halloween coming up, maybe I'll throw in some bags of
small candy bars. :)

Thanks for all the input, Steve.

Jill

[Casa lo pensa]

The lancing of such carbuncles and other epidermal maladies must be
taken seriously after all...

[notbob]

On 2017-10-11, MaryL <stan...@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER> wrote:

> Cans of the much-maligned Spam would be good for this purpose.

Agree! I usta buy a case of Spam to give to our United Way drive.

Ya' gotta think about where this is food is going. Is it going to a
central kicthen that is capable of preparing the food or directly to
homeless ppls that may or may not have prep facilities.

I got in a huge debate with one local charity cuz they wanted
"prepared" foods only, like canned chili or canned stew. WTF!? Read
rfc!! If I can cook, anyone can. ;)

nb

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 10/11/2017 10:11 AM, jmcquown wrote:

> Her house has been on the market for years; she recently changed real
> estate agents hoping for better results.

> Jill

Usually a sign that it is overpriced. What she wants or needs may not
be what anyone is willing to pay.

[sockmo...@comcast.net]

I was the director of my town's food pantry for 20 years and canned protein was our most important item. Spam, tuna, salmon, Vienna sausages, chicken, beef stew, chili, etc were always popular. Canned kidney beans, tomatoes, spaghetti sauce, hearty soups went well, too. Everyone took canned fruit, all varieties. Don't forget cake mixes and frosting, everyone enjoys treats, pancake mix and syrup, breakfast cereals, and oatmeal. Bags of sugar, flour, jams and jellies, popcorn, packets of instant gravy, dry soups, Ramen. People loved a variety, imagine getting nothing but tuna and government chicken every month. One time someone donated a case of canned escargot. I gagged just looking at it, but it went fast. We always let people have a choice of what was available.

Don't forget toothpaste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, feminine hygiene items, razors, shave cream, etc.

Denise in NH

[Casa lo pensa]

On 10/11/2017 10:06 AM, sockmo...@comcast.net wrote:
> Don't forget toothpaste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, feminine hygiene items, razors, shave cream, etc.
>
> Denise in NH

Outstanding reminder!

[col...@gmail.com]

They can't turn peoples electric or gas off here in the winter.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:39:10 -0500, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost>
wrote:
snip

>
>Canned tomato products are fine and always useful. This stuff is
>being distributed to all sorts of people, not just migrant workers.

>You can donate anything. Just because they can't afford food doesn't
>mean they wouldn't like a bar of chocolate, a box of microwave popcorn
>(not individually-wrapped bags!), candy, pop tarts, jellies/jams,
>smoked oysters, sardines, and other foods that may not be deemed
>exactly "healthy". Some extra-ordinary items like that may be just
>the thing someone needs to brighten up an otherwise bleak situation,
>if only for a few hours.
>
>-sw

Thank you for posting this. I always try to purchase some items that
will give a break to the recipients. Can you imagine eating peanut
butter, canned tuna and canned chili every day? I think even poor
people need something sweet or something special.
Janet US

[jmcquown]

I do think it's overpriced but the market here is depressed anyway.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 11:08 AM, Cheri wrote:
> "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>> company shut it off.  I know what you're going to say... she lives on
>> Dataw and couldn't pay the water bill?  It's true.  She's having a
>> hard time.  It can happen to anyone.
>>

>> I took her grocery shopping a few months ago, my treat.
>>
>> Jill
>
>
> Yes, that's how I like to help out more than sending to organized
> charities. Good for you.
>
> Cheri

I'd rather help out that way than hand a charity a check. Too many have
been debunked over the years.

Jill

[Sqwerts]

On 10/11/2017 11:03 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> OK, so

[Sqwerts]

On 10/11/2017 11:11 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Everything will find a place

[Sqwerts]

On 10/11/2017 11:13 AM, Sqwertz wrote:
> Gary missed his hormone therapy

[jmcquown]

On 10/11/2017 1:03 PM, Sqwertz wrote:

> OK, so they buy only 2 boxes of Hamburger Helper, and spend the extra
> $1.05 on a "team building" trip to Honolulu. They've still made
> better use of that $1.75.
>
> -sw
>
Ya think? LOL

Jill

[jmcquown]

I don't forget those items except for this collection on the 29th
they're specifically asking for food, not personal care items. Since
I'm way down south I figured on grits rather than oatmeal. ;)

Jill

[jmcquown]

Cookies! ;)

Jill

[Cheri]

<col...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7627c3d8-7fba-4f9d...@googlegroups.com...

> They can't turn peoples electric or gas off here in the winter.

Sure they can if the winters are mild like in CA.

Cheri

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 06:36:21 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

>"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:59ddc3d4$0$29847$b1db1813$e2fc...@news.astraweb.com...
>
>>> I wouldn't donate Hamburger Helper. You could end up in jail for
>>> trying to poison people. Here are the ingredients of Betty Crocker
>>> Hamburger Helper Classic Three Cheese:
>
><ingredients snipped>
>
>> Lamest post everrrrrr. Lol
>
>Truly.

How can a post about ingredients be the lamest post ever in a cooking
newsgroup?

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:14:58 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Janet wrote:
>>
>> Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
>> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
>> useless and they can't cook anything.
>
>So you helped them out a bit, right?
>
>Yep, I didn't think so.
>
>Anyone can build a fire outside and cook anything.
>Your story was completely made up.

What if you get canned food from a charity, but you can't afford a can
opener?

[Cheri]

"Bruce" <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:cqpstc5i23t564oah...@4ax.com...

Then make sure the canned food you choose has a pull top.

Cheri

[Casa lo pensa]

a: you made it.

[Casa lo pensa]

I'd open the can using yer teeth.

[Carol Shenkenberger]

Casa lo pensa <loo...@U.too> wrote in

news:orlpa2$19l4$3...@gioia.aioe.org:

You're a real internet tuff guy, casa de fuck face.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4M-CT9TVboo/hqdefault.jpg LOL

[Casa lo pensa]

Colt's from Pensyltucky.

[Casa lo pensa]

On 10/11/2017 12:57 PM, Carol Shenkenberger wrote:
> Casa lo pensa <loo...@U.too> wrote in
> news:orlpa2$19l4$3...@gioia.aioe.org:
>
>> On 10/11/2017 12:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>> What if you get canned food from a charity, but you can't
>>> afford a can opener?
>>>
>> I'd open the can using yer teeth.
>>
>
> You're a real internet tuff guy,

Feel free to come try yer mouthy act in person, cunt.

[Casa lo pensa]

forged

[Carol Shenkenberger]

Casa lo pensa <loo...@U.too> wrote in news:orlq2c$1arl$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

Post your address, you sawed off side walk sissy.

[Casa lo pensa]

yours

[Casa lo pensa]

Meet me here:
500 Quantum Road
Rio Rancho, NM 87124

[Carol Shenkenberger]

Casa lo pensa <loo...@U.too> wrote in news:orlqbo$1arl$3
@gioia.aioe.org:

It figures an internet tuff guy like you would want to get
your ass kicked at the cop shop. LOL

[Casa lo pensa]

Are you gonna show?

[Dave Smith]

Try to open it with your bottle opener or a cigarette lighter. I know
there are lots of people who truly need help, but there are also lots
who need to set their priorities.

I have helped out with food drives and I used to help with the food and
hygiene bank at my wife's church. One of their usual customers is one of
our former neighbour's sons. He can afford drugs and booze. Many of them
are puffing away on cigarettes on their way in and out of the food bank.
It seems they can afford the $10 or so that it costs for a package of
cigarettes but they can't afford food.

[lucreti...@fl.it]

Good point Dave! They shouldn't be allowed anything comforting to
them! I would love to think you might fall on hard times sometime in
the future!

[Dave Smith]

Do you consider cigarette smoking to be comforting to someone when they
light up next to you in a building? It does make me wonder about the
need to get food at a food bank when they are spending more on
cigarettes than it would cost to by food in a grocery store.

[U.S. Janet B.]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:52:06 -0400, Dave Smith

Sometimes when someone has nothing, one thing is all that they have.
It may be cigarettes, drugs or sex or even a dog that trails along
after them.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:52:06 -0400, Dave Smith

That's addiction for you. Feeding the addiction comes first. When I
was a poor student and a smoker, I could run out of money for
anything, but not for smokes :)

[Dave Smith]

On 2017-10-11 5:00 PM, Bruce wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:52:06 -0400, Dave Smith

>> Do you consider cigarette smoking to be comforting to someone when they
>> light up next to you in a building? It does make me wonder about the
>> need to get food at a food bank when they are spending more on
>> cigarettes than it would cost to by food in a grocery store.
>
> That's addiction for you. Feeding the addiction comes first. When I
> was a poor student and a smoker, I could run out of money for
> anything, but not for smokes :)

Maybe it would work better if we just ran cigarette banks instead of
food banks. The smokers could get free cigarettes and that would leave
them with money to buy food.

[Bruce]

With current tobacco prices this might be a very good idea.

[Cheri]

"Bruce" <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:mg1ttc1gn6hdvkfok...@4ax.com...

> That's addiction for you. Feeding the addiction comes first. When I
> was a poor student and a smoker, I could run out of money for
> anything, but not for smokes :)

Yep, I seldomly ate lunch when I was in high school due to spending the
lunch money on cigarettes, but that didn't mean I wasn't hungry at
lunchtime. :)

Cheri

[penm...@aol.com]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 10:08:13 -0600, Casa lo pensa <loo...@U.too>
wrote:

>On 10/11/2017 10:06 AM, sockmo...@comcast.net wrote:
>> Don't forget toothpaste, toothbrushes, toilet paper, feminine hygiene items, razors, shave cream, etc.
>>
>> Denise in NH
>

>Outstanding reminder!

Don't forget to donate lots of condoms, will help reduce
that parasite population.

[cshenk]

jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> There's going to be a big event/food bank drive on Dataw on 10/29/17.
> It's in conjunction with a golf tournament.
>
> The organizers are going to set out 19 collection bins around the
> island that morning for food donations. One of the bins will be just
> down the street. I'll be donating.
>
> They're asking for canned food due to the long shelf-life. Also, the
> collection bins will be sitting outside for hours. No frozen or
> refrigerated food, please. Oh, and the people coming around to pick
> up the donations that afternoon won't have any way to guard against
> glass bottles/jars breaking so they'd rather none of those, either.
>
> I was told along with canned vegetables the emphasis is really on
> protein. Peanut butter (in plastic jars) was suggested. Along with
> canned beans, I'm thinking dried beans. Canned broth. Rice is a
> starch but if, as I suspect, many of the recipients will be local
> migrant farm workers, perhaps they might like some rice with those
> beans. More protein: canned chunk chicken, tuna, salmon. Spam.
>
> I'm also thinking canned fruit. Not everything is about protein.
>
> How about some dried herbs and spices?
>
> Any other suggestions for shelf-stable and/or or canned items to put
> in the food bank bin? I thought about canned tomatoes. But if this
> is indeed mostly going to feed the local farm workers, they're the
> ones who have been picking the tomatoes for months. They're probably
> sick of them.
>
> Jill

Actually, come past the crop time, they will like to have the canned
tomatoes come winter so it's still a good option. I agree with the
rice and the dried beans. Best to wrap both well with extra saran wrap
as the packages can be fragile and split.

Things I would add (not all of this as I need money to feed us to but
decent picks):

Cans: Evaporated milk (not sweetened), pumpkin or other pie fillings,
tuna, spam, mackeral, salmon, sardines, La Choy or other 'oriental
cans', Ravioli and other similar.

Non-canned not above: Black pepper, chile powder, gravy packets and
other seasoning packets, pasta, Pasta sauce in a plastic jar (I'm
thinking Ragu is in plastic?), AP flour (wrap like the rice and dry
beans), bagged stuffing.

Anyways, thats what comes top to mind.

Here in Hampton Roads, we have a huge annual 'Mayflower' event.
Basically we fill the foodbanks and soup kitchens up. It's just before
Thanksgiving and has drop off places in 3-4 sites with refrigerated
trucks plus most of the grocery stores have drop boxes.

I always get 4 extra full meals (all the sides, potatoes and such as
well as butter and stuffing). Turkey (frozen), stuffing, gravy packets
(unless Jars are on sale), potatoes (sweet and regular), pie shells,
canned pie fillings, canned veggies, 1lb butter, a roasting aluminium
pan, and such).

2 to the food bank and 2 to freecycle (Yahoo true freecycle). I also
do 2 smaller sets for basically 2 people on freecycle and those
generally are a cornish hen and a ham slice with all the sides as above
(1 stick of real butter).

--

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:45:54 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

Yes, first things first :)

[Casa lo pensa]

Better check them for aspirin too, no pain whiners allowed.

[Casa lo pensa]

Never thought of that, bet there might be some push-back, heh...so to
speak...

[cshenk]

Cheryl wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> Wrote in message:
> >
> > "Sqwertz" <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote in message
> > news:241zb8p0...@sqwertz.com...
> >> On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 23:37:58 -0400, jmcquown wrote:
> > >
> >>> I did inquire about dried pasta and things like that. She said of
> >>> course but she kept mentioning protein. The thing about Hamburger
> >>> Helper is you have to add the ground beef. However, since I've
> already >>> got canned tuna on my list... no reason not to get Tuna
> Helper! Is >>> there a [canned] Chicken Helper? If not there should
> be. ;)
> > >
> >> Oh, and as I told Julie, DO NOT buy food just to give it to the
> food >> bank. Just donate the money you would have spent directly to
> the food >> bank.
> > >
> >> The food bank buys food from their USDA contractors (food
> >> manufacturers) at about an 80% discount. That box of Tuna Helper
> you >> bought for $1.75, the food bank could have bought 4 boxes for
> that >> same price, and had $.35 left over to help pay for their
> facilities.
> >
> > You did tell me that. But that being said, I still donate items. I
> > can get items for free. Currently I have people in my own life who
> > are needy. So I give to them. Otherwise I would give to the food
> > bank.
> >
> >
>
> I love that you take advantage of coupons and free offers to give
> to food banks. I need to remember that when I see the same types
> of offers. Sometimes I'll see a BOGO and give the freebie to my
> neighbor because they struggle too sometimes but I don't always
> think about it f for canned food and other non perishables. But
> if I see a buy one 5lb bag of potatoes and get one free I always
> grab that free one even though I'd never use it myself

THat's kinda how we do it on freecycle here. While some places charge
1/2 price for 'BOGO' not all do.

--

[cshenk]

Sqwertz wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 03:12:26 -0400 (EDT), Cheryl wrote:
>
> > "Julie Bove" <juli...@frontier.com> Wrote in message:
> >>

> >> But those are not canned and... The people who receive them may
> not have the >> necessary ingredients to make them. I remember
> hearing on the radio some >> years ago about a woman who had so
> little that she didn't even have a pan or >> a stove. They said if
> you were going to donate to keep that in mind. Most >> anything can
> be eaten straight from the can. Might be better if chilled or >>
> heated but...
> >
> > I don't know about this but do those being recipients have the
> > option to just not take what they can't use, while others could
> > make use of something like that? Or do they just get a bag of
> > stuff and there are things they can't use so they toss it? That
> > doesn't make sense to me
>
> Everything will find a place with somebody who can use it. Pantries
> that serve mostly homeless people, they tend to give away the Vienna
> Snausages and pop top cans of soups and stews. The church pantries
> that serve a more general population will be able to give the rice and
> pastas to somebody who can supplement it with extra ingredients and
> proper cooking. 95+% of the people utilizing food pantries are not
> dead broke and homeless, for those, the supplied food is meant to
> supplement their meager, not cover the total cost of food.
>
> -sw

Correct.

--

[cshenk]

Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> In article <ork0e3$g9l$1...@dont-email.me>, j_mc...@comcast.net says...

> >
> > There's going to be a big event/food bank drive on Dataw on
> > 10/29/17. It's in conjunction with a golf tournament.
> >
> > The organizers are going to set out 19 collection bins around the
> > island that morning for food donations. One of the bins will be
> > just down the street. I'll be donating.
> >
> > They're asking for canned food due to the long shelf-life. Also,
> > the collection bins will be sitting outside for hours. No frozen
> > or refrigerated food, please. Oh, and the people coming around to
> > pick up the donations that afternoon won't have any way to guard
> > against glass bottles/jars breaking so they'd rather none of those,
> > either.
> >
> > I was told along with canned vegetables the emphasis is really on
> > protein. Peanut butter (in plastic jars) was suggested. Along
> > with canned beans, I'm thinking dried beans.
>

> Dried beans need plenty of cooking, People who are homeless don't
> have facilities and poor people often don't cook because of the fuel
> cost... so rice spices and dry herbs might not be usable. Best to
> give stuff that can be eaten cold from a tin (tuna,salmon, fruit,
> canned rice) or just warmed up quickly (baked beans).
>
> Janet UK

I'm sorry, it may not have been clear. This isnt just homeless with
USA foodbanks, but those on limited income who do have pots, pans, and
ability to cook. Just short of money and leading to eating dog or cat
food if they don't have help.



--

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:00:57 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:

>Janet wrote in rec.food.cooking:

>>
>> Dried beans need plenty of cooking, People who are homeless don't
>> have facilities and poor people often don't cook because of the fuel
>> cost... so rice spices and dry herbs might not be usable. Best to
>> give stuff that can be eaten cold from a tin (tuna,salmon, fruit,
>> canned rice) or just warmed up quickly (baked beans).
>>
>> Janet UK
>
>I'm sorry, it may not have been clear. This isnt just homeless with
>USA foodbanks, but those on limited income who do have pots, pans, and
>ability to cook. Just short of money and leading to eating dog or cat
>food if they don't have help.

Do they know that most dog and cat food contains full, uncleaned
bowels of cows etc?

[Casa lo pensa]

On 10/11/2017 5:10 PM, Bruce wrote:

> most dog and cat food contains full, uncleaned
> bowels of cows

Thank you Bwuthie dear, now please go eat some and STFU!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:55:46 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
> useless and they can't cook anything.
>

> Janet UK
>
>
I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
on their home. If this is not the case, please correct. But if
these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
year??

If they work, then they take showers at work or a local hostel?
Where do they wash their clothes if they have no power at home
to do their laundry? Or do they have water at home to use the
bathroom or do they visit a local gas station, quick mart, etc.
to take care of bodily functions?

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:58:14 -0600, U.S. Janet B. <J...@nospam.com>

Thank you Janet, at least one person understands :)

[lucreti...@fl.it]

Humbug you self righteous sob

[lucreti...@fl.it]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:55:46 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>>
>> Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
>> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
>> useless and they can't cook anything.
>>
>> Janet UK
>>
>>
>I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
>on their home. If this is not the case, please correct. But if
>these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
>utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
>year??

= rates in the UK

[S Viemeister]

On 10/11/2017 7:12 PM, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:55:46 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>> Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
>> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
>> useless and they can't cook anything.

> I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
> on their home. If this is not the case, please correct. But if
> these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
> utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
> year??

Council tax, in the UK.
I pay property tax in NJ, and council tax in Scotland. The Highland
council tax is a small fraction of the amount I pay in NJ.

[S Viemeister]

On 10/11/2017 8:03 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"

>> I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
>> on their home. If this is not the case, please correct. But if
>> these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
>> utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
>> year??
>
> = rates in the UK

Not rates, these days - now it's council tax.

[Cheri]

"Casa lo pensa" <loo...@U.too> wrote in message
news:orm5ee$1t3l$3...@gioia.aioe.org...

> On 10/11/2017 2:52 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2017-10-11 4:41 PM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:32:59 -0400, Dave Smith
>>> <adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2017-10-11 2:47 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:14:58 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Janet wrote:
>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>    Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home

>>>>>>> with no
>>>>>>> power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the
>>>>>>> stove is
>>>>>>> useless and they can't cook anything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you helped them out a bit, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep, I didn't think so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone can build a fire outside and cook anything.
>>>>>> Your story was completely made up.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if you get canned food from a charity, but you can't afford a can
>>>>> opener?
>>>>>
>>>>

>>>> Try to open it with your bottle opener or a cigarette lighter. I know

>>>> there are lots of people who truly need help, but there are also lots
>>>> who need to set their priorities.
>>>>
>>>> I have helped out with food drives and I used to help with the food and
>>>> hygiene bank at my wife's church. One of their usual customers is one
>>>> of
>>>> our former neighbour's sons. He can afford drugs and booze. Many of
>>>> them
>>>> are puffing away on cigarettes on their way in and out of the food
>>>> bank.
>>>> It seems they can afford the $10 or so that it costs for a package of
>>>> cigarettes but they can't afford food.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

>>> Good point Dave! They shouldn't be allowed anything comforting to
>>> them! I would love to think you might fall on hard times sometime in

>>> the future!
>>
>> Do you consider cigarette smoking to be comforting to someone when they
>> light up next to you in a building? It does make me wonder about the need
>> to get food at a food bank when they are spending more on cigarettes than
>> it would cost to by food in a grocery store.

> Better check them for aspirin too, no pain whiners allowed.

Since I still love the smell of cigarette smoke, I would find it comforting.
:)

Cheri

[Cheri]

"Bruce" <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:959ttc12njvu406gk...@4ax.com...

What? No ingredient list? You're slipping.

Cheri

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:48:34 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

If I do it too often, it might become annoying.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:04:03 PM UTC-5, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
>
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:12:52 -0700 (PDT), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
> >I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
> >on their home. If this is not the case, please correct. But if
> >these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
> >utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
> >year??
>
> = rates in the UK
>
>

Explanation, please.

[Janet]

In article <2624a847-65c8-4a39...@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

>
> On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:55:46 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> >
> > Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
> > power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
> > useless and they can't cook anything.
> >
> > Janet UK

> I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
> on their home. If this is not the case, please correct.

There is a property tax payable on each dwelling, but it's not always
payable by the inhabitants. Homeless mothers with children are often
accommodated in a Bed and Breakfast (one room): they don't pay CT, or
have access to cooking facilities or washing machine.

But if
> these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
> utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
> year??

The name of that tax is Council Tax. Some people supported by certain
state benefits are not charged CT.

> If they work, then they take showers at work or a local hostel?

Showers provided at workplaces are the exception rather than the rule
here.

> Where do they wash their clothes if they have no power at home
> to do their laundry?

Some people wear the same clothes every day and don't wash.

Or do they have water at home to use the
> bathroom or do they visit a local gas station, quick mart, etc.
> to take care of bodily functions?

Have you never been in a public lavatory and wondered why there's
someone in there washing her hair or feet in the sink?

Janet UK

[Cheri]

"Bruce" <Br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message

news:03fttclb7c4v7f8jl...@4ax.com...

Oh no, why would you ever think that?

Cheri

[penm...@aol.com]

"Bruce" wrote

>
> Do they know that most dog and cat food contains full, uncleaned
> bowels of cows etc?

A lot healthier than the shit you spew. LOL-LOL

[Janet]

In article <dfa912ca-0dd8-4573...@googlegroups.com>,
itsjoan...@webtv.net says...

UK "rates" were replaced over 20 years ago. Then we had poll Tax. Now
it's Council Tax, which is graduated a different way.


> Explanation, please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_Tax

"Council Tax is a local taxation system used in England, Scotland and
Wales. It is a tax on domestic property which was introduced in 1993 by
the Local Government Finance Act 1992, replacing the Community Charge
(popularly known as the Poll Tax). Each property is assigned one of
eight bands (A to H) based on property value, and the tax is set as a
fixed amount for each band. Some property is exempt from the tax, some
people are exempt from the tax, while some get a discount."

Janet UK

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:58:45 PM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
>
> In article <2624a847-65c8-4a39...@googlegroups.com>,
> itsjoan...@webtv.net says...
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 7:55:46 AM UTC-5, Janet wrote:
> > >
> > > Don't you believe it; I've encounterd people who have a home with no
> > > power, heating or light because they can't pay the bill; so the stove is
> > > useless and they can't cook anything.
> > >
> > > Janet UK
>
> > I'm assuming people in the UK have to pay property taxes each year
> > on their home. If this is not the case, please correct.
>
> There is a property tax payable on each dwelling, but it's not always
> payable by the inhabitants. Homeless mothers with children are often
> accommodated in a Bed and Breakfast (one room): they don't pay CT, or
> have access to cooking facilities or washing machine.
>

Property taxes here are paid by the owner. If a person rents a home
they don't pay the taxes.

>
> But if
> > these people you speak of have homes but can't afford to pay their
> > utility bills how are they able to pay the property tax bill each
> > year??
>
> The name of that tax is Council Tax. Some people supported by certain
> state benefits are not charged CT.
>

Ok, that would be termed the projects here and they don't pay property
tax. But they have to meet certain requirements to be able to live
in these dwellings. Usually, not always, if there is any crime or
criminal activity it mostly originates in these low income housings.

>
> > If they work, then they take showers at work or a local hostel?
>
> Showers provided at workplaces are the exception rather than the rule
> here.
>

Many of the large companies here provide workout facilities and showers
for their employees. But of course the smaller companies do not.

>
> > Where do they wash their clothes if they have no power at home
> > to do their laundry?
>
> Some people wear the same clothes every day and don't wash.
>

Those would be our homeless people here.

>
> Or do they have water at home to use the
> > bathroom or do they visit a local gas station, quick mart, etc.
> > to take care of bodily functions?
>
> Have you never been in a public lavatory and wondered why there's
> someone in there washing her hair or feet in the sink?
>
> Janet UK
>

No, thankfully I haven't.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:34:55 -0700, "Cheri" <che...@newsguy.com>
wrote:

It's like with smokers. Yes, they need to know what's in cigarettes,
but don't tell them every day. They'd get stressed and smoke more.