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ImStillMags
May 17, 2019, 11:50:05 AM5/17/19
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I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more days.... and I learned some valuable things.
I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
take the time to watch, you won't regret it
https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
take the time to watch, you won't regret it
https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
Ed Pawlowski
May 17, 2019, 12:41:44 PM5/17/19
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what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
ImStillMags
May 17, 2019, 1:01:29 PM5/17/19
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https://secretingredientsmovie.com/trailer/
ImStillMags
May 17, 2019, 1:02:56 PM5/17/19
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On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
graham
May 17, 2019, 1:17:30 PM5/17/19
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Ed Pawlowski
May 17, 2019, 2:25:42 PM5/17/19
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off rather boring and did not entice me to spend a lot of time.
I'm not in favor of GMO but do not go crazy to get organic. People
often chide Bruce about his ingredient lists, but he is right. We don't
need a lot of that crap and we avoid it.
Have you heard of the Feingold Diet? Very similar to avoid
preservatives and artificial colors. Made quite a difference in my
son's behavior as a child. especially red food coloring, you could pick
him off the ceiling.
Bruce
May 17, 2019, 2:51:24 PM5/17/19
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Bruce
May 17, 2019, 2:51:57 PM5/17/19
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Bruce
May 17, 2019, 3:02:03 PM5/17/19
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On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:25:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>On 5/17/2019 1:02 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>>>>
>>>> I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
>>>>
>>>> take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>>>>
>>>> https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>>>>
>>> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
>>> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
>>
>> how much time are you willing to invest to improve your health? That's what it is about.
>>
>I got 90% of what I needed to know from the trailer. The movie started
>off rather boring and did not entice me to spend a lot of time.
>
>I'm not in favor of GMO but do not go crazy to get organic. People
>often chide Bruce about his ingredient lists, but he is right. We don't
>need a lot of that crap and we avoid it.
Yes, you'd expect people to bit a little more critical in RFC of all
>On 5/17/2019 1:02 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>>>> I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>>>>
>>>> I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
>>>>
>>>> take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>>>>
>>>> https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>>>>
>>> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
>>> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
>>
>> how much time are you willing to invest to improve your health? That's what it is about.
>>
>I got 90% of what I needed to know from the trailer. The movie started
>off rather boring and did not entice me to spend a lot of time.
>
>I'm not in favor of GMO but do not go crazy to get organic. People
>often chide Bruce about his ingredient lists, but he is right. We don't
>need a lot of that crap and we avoid it.
places. But most people here are happy to consume anything the food
industry concocts. And if you're not, you're alarmist. It's not a very
bright lot sometimes.
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 17, 2019, 6:19:47 PM5/17/19
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GMO's are still in its infancy and there are really no solid results
on effects in the human body.
Organics is a complete scam, Sure they are a little healthier as in
more vitamins maybe and perhaps a little cleaner. But the little bit
is so little it is hardly even noticeable
--
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 17, 2019, 6:21:35 PM5/17/19
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there is no evidence that organics improve your health
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 17, 2019, 6:22:58 PM5/17/19
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On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:25:37 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
hyperactivity in children
Terry Coombs
May 17, 2019, 6:30:46 PM5/17/19
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(necessarily) because they're GMO's . Mostly because they're doused with
Roundup , which is BadShit in my book . My wife's digestive problems all
started around the time Roundup came into widespread use . Some plants ,
it IS because of GMO genetics - some of them have Bacillus Thurigensis
genes which produce a toxin that kills predator insects . That shit
ain't good for humans either . Ed , IMO it's worth at least a cursory
watch . Play it while you're cooking dinner or something . IMO there's
enough evidence that the stuff should be yanked from the market , but
the money ... fattest wallet usually wins in these cases .
Side note - because they often use Roundup to desiccate wheat just
before harvest I use a premium flour to bake all our bread products .
Non- GMO and Roundup-free . This year I'm growing some corn out in the
garden as a test . We'll see if home grown without Roundup causes her
intestinal distress like commercial products do .
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
Terry Coombs
May 17, 2019, 6:39:23 PM5/17/19
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John Kuthe
May 17, 2019, 10:09:19 PM5/17/19
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I Believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpsEUGOoxgI
John Kuthe...
Cindy Hamilton
May 18, 2019, 6:29:03 AM5/18/19
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On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 6:30:46 PM UTC-4, Terry Coombs wrote:
> On 5/17/2019 12:01 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >>> I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more days.... and I learned some valuable things.
> >>>
> >>> I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
> >>>
> >>> take the time to watch, you won't regret it
> >>>
> >>> https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
> >>>
> >> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
> >> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
> > There is a 3 minute trailer. Their agenda is education about these things and your health.
> > https://secretingredientsmovie.com/trailer/
> Well , sorta . Their message is that GMO's are bad . But not
> (necessarily) because they're GMO's . Mostly because they're doused with
> Roundup , which is BadShit in my book . My wife's digestive problems all
> started around the time Roundup came into widespread use . Some plants ,
> it IS because of GMO genetics - some of them have Bacillus Thurigensis
> genes which produce a toxin that kills predator insects . That shit
> ain't good for humans either .
What's your evidence for that? People inoculate their soil with
> On 5/17/2019 12:01 PM, ImStillMags wrote:
> > On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> >> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
> >>> I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more days.... and I learned some valuable things.
> >>>
> >>> I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have our bodies feel better.
> >>>
> >>> take the time to watch, you won't regret it
> >>>
> >>> https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
> >>>
> >> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
> >> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
> > There is a 3 minute trailer. Their agenda is education about these things and your health.
> > https://secretingredientsmovie.com/trailer/
> Well , sorta . Their message is that GMO's are bad . But not
> (necessarily) because they're GMO's . Mostly because they're doused with
> Roundup , which is BadShit in my book . My wife's digestive problems all
> started around the time Roundup came into widespread use . Some plants ,
> it IS because of GMO genetics - some of them have Bacillus Thurigensis
> genes which produce a toxin that kills predator insects . That shit
> ain't good for humans either .
BT all the time. It's a common insecticide for organic gardening
and farming.
Cindy Hamilton
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 7:50:34 AM5/18/19
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"ImStillMags" <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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be sure that the organic stuff we buy is free of Round Up. Sure, the farmer
might use organic soil and not use any chemicals but stuff is in the air and
water. There are signs around here that they are spraying chemicals. People
complain because the helicopters start at 6:00 a.m. No clue what they are
spraying. Just says chemicals.
Do you really think that rice and beans are sprayed with Round Up after
harvest? I hope not! I can get organic rice for not a lot more money but
organic beans are usually expensive.
Also, they were somewhat vague on the diet. Told us what not to eat. But
what about butter, cheese, meat? I've done an organic, plant based diet. My
stomach couldn't handle all that fiber.
It was still a good movie though and I'm not a movie person.
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 7:53:03 AM5/18/19
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part. I did skip over one part towards the middle where I already knew what
they were saying. I do believe the testimonials were needed and he is not
trying to sell us anything.
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 7:57:17 AM5/18/19
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burgers that were mentioned here were talked about, I think in the movie,
but it could have been on the radio show. The fake meat is GMO to make new
kinds of protein and it is not digested well.
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 8:00:30 AM5/18/19
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couldn't have red food coloring. She had a picnic every 4th of July. I
remember her son suddenly acting like he was shot out of a cannon. A well
meaning party goer had given the box some fruity drink with red coloring in
it. He was quite easy going when he stuck to the diet.
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 8:05:59 AM5/18/19
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They never question ingredients and make broad sweeping statements like,
"But I thought cereal was good for you!" Ack. Nope. If I don't make it from
scratch, I always read the ingredients. I just did a cupboard clean out and
will be taking some stuff to my friend. Mostly Asian type sauces that I'd
never eat but my gardener was until he learned what was in them. My friend
eats very little in the way of what I'd call healthy, but refuses to believe
that her diet might be at least partially to blame.
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 8:06:25 AM5/18/19
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Bruce
May 18, 2019, 8:17:11 AM5/18/19
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Cindy Hamilton
May 18, 2019, 8:17:53 AM5/18/19
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scientific studies.
Cindy Hamilton
Terry Coombs
May 18, 2019, 8:31:41 AM5/18/19
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INSIDE THE TARGET INSECT'S BODY and that's where they stay . When those
genes are spliced into a crop plant the toxin is produced by the plant ,
and ingested by us . Simple enough to understand IMO .
Terry Coombs
May 18, 2019, 8:34:41 AM5/18/19
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production "creature" that was a cross between a slug and a pig , called
appropriately enough "Slig" . Just a big ol' blob of flesh that they
sliced slabs off of . I wouldn't eat that either ...
Bruce
May 18, 2019, 8:37:37 AM5/18/19
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graham
May 18, 2019, 8:41:10 AM5/18/19
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Terry Coombs
May 18, 2019, 8:42:46 AM5/18/19
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known to hold " Come to Monster" services for the neighborhood children
(she's like 13 now) where she wears a strainer on her head and preaches
to the kids about being "touched by his noodly appendage" . She's really
freaked some of the kids out with that act , she knows it's BS but she's
good , gets the little monsters all wound up . We "adults" think it's
absolutely hilarious .
Terry Coombs
May 18, 2019, 9:04:46 AM5/18/19
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"eye appeal" and perfect appearance of chemical-doused produce . We can
and do use some chemicals in the garden , mostly anti-fungals and Bt .
Most hard shell insects are controlled by DE , we use nothing "systemic"
and nothing that can't be rinsed off . And we only use those products
when absolutely necessary , not as a preventive measure . When the
garden plants have gotten bigger I plan to make a "tunnel" of chicken
wire to let the hens get to the garden to assist with insect control .
The roosters are doing a pretty good job with the area around the house
since the hens (I counted the votes) elected to evict them from the pen .
Cindy Hamilton
May 18, 2019, 9:19:15 AM5/18/19
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by the same stuff. Chocolate and dogs comes to mind.
Cindy Hamilton
Cindy Hamilton
May 18, 2019, 9:21:18 AM5/18/19
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How am I wrong for insisting on the gold standard for scientific
results rather than some crap interpreted by moviemakers?
You might as well get your health information from random Internet
sites. Oh, wait....
Cindy Hamilton
dejamos
May 18, 2019, 9:49:07 AM5/18/19
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Ed Pawlowski
May 18, 2019, 12:55:50 PM5/18/19
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get a cherry water ice. Did not take long at all for the reaction. Not
saying evey kid is affected but some sure are.
graham
May 18, 2019, 1:28:36 PM5/18/19
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On 2019-05-18 10:55 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL red food coloring has been proven to have no effect on
>>> hyperactivity in children
>>
>> Proof?
>
> CK can laugh but I've seen it happen. Made a mistake once and let him
> get a cherry water ice. Did not take long at all for the reaction. Not
> saying evey kid is affected but some sure are.
I know that when one of my son's friends came to ours for a sleepover or
>>>
>>>
>>> LOL red food coloring has been proven to have no effect on
>>> hyperactivity in children
>>
>> Proof?
>
> CK can laugh but I've seen it happen. Made a mistake once and let him
> get a cherry water ice. Did not take long at all for the reaction. Not
> saying evey kid is affected but some sure are.
b/day party, we had to make sure that everything was free of colorants
et al. He was a severe ADHD and on Ritalin. A little ketchup would send
him "flying"!
Boron Elgar
May 18, 2019, 2:10:37 PM5/18/19
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wrote:
BT toxins are not activated within humans.
wrote:
jmcquown
May 18, 2019, 2:11:02 PM5/18/19
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before anyone thought about GMO's and "organic" labels or Roundup?
Jill
Boron Elgar
May 18, 2019, 2:22:21 PM5/18/19
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songbird
May 18, 2019, 2:45:42 PM5/18/19
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graham wrote:
...
the better.
songbird
...
> and use a jury composed of scientists in court cases against Bayer!!!!!
the sooner we put poison manufacturers out of business
the better.
songbird
Ed Pawlowski
May 18, 2019, 3:05:13 PM5/18/19
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Termites? Ants? Should we never use a poison? How do you feel about
rats?
History Channel has a series about Farmers. I only saw one episode and
found it interesting. One farmer planted organic alfalfa. Lost the
entire crop because it had more weeds than alfalfa in the harvest.
I'm sure there is over use and mis use of insecticides and fertilizer.
Organic farming is getting better as more farmers find alternatives too.
Consumers have to learn that produce does not have to look pretty to
taste good.
Is Roundup safe? Don't know. The guy that got cancer and big bucks used
tons of it. Many chemicals can do that bot can be safe. Most of us have
little exposure but I'm not qualified to say how much, if any, is OK.
Bruce
May 18, 2019, 3:19:07 PM5/18/19
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On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:05:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>On 5/18/2019 10:42 AM, songbird wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>> ...
>>> and use a jury composed of scientists in court cases against Bayer!!!!!
>>
>> the sooner we put poison manufacturers out of business
>> the better.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>>
>Maybe. That is a broad statement. What about insects in the home?
>Termites? Ants? Should we never use a poison? How do you feel about
>rats?
Don't be silly. We don't consume insecticides and pesticides.
>On 5/18/2019 10:42 AM, songbird wrote:
>> graham wrote:
>> ...
>>> and use a jury composed of scientists in court cases against Bayer!!!!!
>>
>> the sooner we put poison manufacturers out of business
>> the better.
>>
>>
>> songbird
>>
>Maybe. That is a broad statement. What about insects in the home?
>Termites? Ants? Should we never use a poison? How do you feel about
>rats?
Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 3:57:55 PM5/18/19
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Julie Bove
May 18, 2019, 4:00:05 PM5/18/19
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kids with allergies at Angela's school. Not all of them. Just the ones in
her class.One boy got a skin rash if he ate a certain yellow dye.
Julie Bove
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Bruce
May 18, 2019, 4:21:56 PM5/18/19
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repellent in.
dsi1
May 18, 2019, 4:31:29 PM5/18/19
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Ed Pawlowski
May 18, 2019, 5:12:50 PM5/18/19
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They list 87 of them here.
https://www.domyown.com/insecticides-c-59_481_776.html?page=all
Ed Pawlowski
May 18, 2019, 5:14:12 PM5/18/19
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use. When you make a broad statement they are included. Of course,
they would never be mis-used either.
Bruce
May 18, 2019, 5:33:25 PM5/18/19
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Nancy2
May 18, 2019, 6:23:31 PM5/18/19
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Ed, I also have watched episodes of "American Farm." I think it is really gutsy of
The man with the daughter as a paid employee to grow so much Produce in Alaska..
...a sparsely populated state in the firstplace...without finding out what kind of a market
there would be. Last episode, his daughter approached a former employer who was a
chef of a restaurant to check out if he would be a buyer. Even the best Alaskan restaurant
wouldn't have enough volume, seems to me, to be able to buy a lot of produce no matter
how good it was (and it looked really good quality).
N.
The man with the daughter as a paid employee to grow so much Produce in Alaska..
...a sparsely populated state in the firstplace...without finding out what kind of a market
there would be. Last episode, his daughter approached a former employer who was a
chef of a restaurant to check out if he would be a buyer. Even the best Alaskan restaurant
wouldn't have enough volume, seems to me, to be able to buy a lot of produce no matter
how good it was (and it looked really good quality).
N.
Ed Pawlowski
May 18, 2019, 6:50:25 PM5/18/19
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certain crops that do well in parts of Alaska because the daylight in
summer. I recall seeing some record sized veggies like cabbage.
Leonard Blaisdell
May 19, 2019, 12:19:59 AM5/19/19
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In article <qbouk3$i8s$1...@dont-email.me>, Terry Coombs
uncertainty and doubt, oh my! Thanks for the nice analogy!
leo
<snag...@msn.com> wrote:
> Interesting sideline - Our second oldest grand daughter has been
> known to hold " Come to Monster" services for the neighborhood children
> (she's like 13 now) where she wears a strainer on her head and preaches
> to the kids about being "touched by his noodly appendage" . She's really
> freaked some of the kids out with that act , she knows it's BS but she's
> good , gets the little monsters all wound up . We "adults" think it's
> absolutely hilarious .
She's freaking them out like "food scientists" freak you out. Fear,
> Interesting sideline - Our second oldest grand daughter has been
> known to hold " Come to Monster" services for the neighborhood children
> (she's like 13 now) where she wears a strainer on her head and preaches
> to the kids about being "touched by his noodly appendage" . She's really
> freaked some of the kids out with that act , she knows it's BS but she's
> good , gets the little monsters all wound up . We "adults" think it's
> absolutely hilarious .
uncertainty and doubt, oh my! Thanks for the nice analogy!
leo
Leonard Blaisdell
May 19, 2019, 12:34:57 AM5/19/19
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In article <GHYDE.7181$Lc4....@fx31.iad>, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx>
wrote:
> History Channel has a series about Farmers. I only saw one episode and
> found it interesting. One farmer planted organic alfalfa. Lost the
> entire crop because it had more weeds than alfalfa in the harvest.
Without pesticides, there would be a hell of a lot fewer of us. Maybe,
that's the point of this thread.
leo
wrote:
> History Channel has a series about Farmers. I only saw one episode and
> found it interesting. One farmer planted organic alfalfa. Lost the
> entire crop because it had more weeds than alfalfa in the harvest.
that's the point of this thread.
leo
dsi1
May 19, 2019, 4:43:36 AM5/19/19
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May 19, 2019, 5:30:04 AM5/19/19
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Bruce
May 19, 2019, 6:41:11 AM5/19/19
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On Sun, 19 May 2019 02:29:53 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
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>"Bruce" <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 13:02:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:05:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 5/18/2019 10:42 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> and use a jury composed of scientists in court cases against
>>>>>>> Bayer!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the sooner we put poison manufacturers out of business
>>>>>> the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> songbird
>>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe. That is a broad statement. What about insects in the home?
>>>>>Termites? Ants? Should we never use a poison? How do you feel about
>>>>>rats?
>>>>
>>>> Don't be silly. We don't consume insecticides and pesticides.
>>>
>>>We do or could be if eating non organic food!
>>
>> Yes, but it's not intentional. We don't open our mouths and spray ant
>> repellent in.
>
>Well... most of us don't.
Only dsi1 does. He's fearless!
>
>"Bruce" <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 13:02:40 -0700, "Julie Bove"
>> <juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Bruce" <br...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>>> On Sat, 18 May 2019 15:05:10 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 5/18/2019 10:42 AM, songbird wrote:
>>>>>> graham wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> and use a jury composed of scientists in court cases against
>>>>>>> Bayer!!!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the sooner we put poison manufacturers out of business
>>>>>> the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> songbird
>>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe. That is a broad statement. What about insects in the home?
>>>>>Termites? Ants? Should we never use a poison? How do you feel about
>>>>>rats?
>>>>
>>>> Don't be silly. We don't consume insecticides and pesticides.
>>>
>>>We do or could be if eating non organic food!
>>
>> Yes, but it's not intentional. We don't open our mouths and spray ant
>> repellent in.
>
>Well... most of us don't.
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 19, 2019, 7:26:40 AM5/19/19
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On Sat, 18 May 2019 05:17:49 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> <Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl> wrote in message
>> news:ktcudehu5bui1ns2r...@4ax.com...
>> > there is no evidence that organics improve your health
>>
>> Watch the movie. You'll see evidence.
>
>Since when is a movie "evidence"? Show me the double-blind
>scientific studies.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
Yeah that's right!! you tell her!!
aint no one gonna fool this old coot with some whacky opinions because
they want higher sales of their organic crap that contains less than
1% difference in nutritional value
--
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
<angelica...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4, Julie Bove wrote:
>> <Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl> wrote in message
>> > On Fri, 17 May 2019 10:02:53 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> > <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> >>> > I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more
>> >>> > days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods,
>> >>> > Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all
>> >>> > like to have our bodies feel better.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>> >>> >
>> >>> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
>> >>> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
>> >>
>> > <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Friday, May 17, 2019 at 9:41:44 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>> >>> On 5/17/2019 11:49 AM, ImStillMags wrote:
>> >>> > I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more
>> >>> > days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods,
>> >>> > Roundup and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all
>> >>> > like to have our bodies feel better.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>> >>> >
>> >>> > https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>> >>> >
>> >>> Its an hour and 20 minutes. I'm not ready to invest that time to see
>> >>> what their agenda is. They should make a condensed version.
>> >>
>> >>how much time are you willing to invest to improve your health? That's
>> >>what it is about.
>> >
>> >
>> > Well Theres no evidence that GMOs effect you health
>> >>what it is about.
>> >
>> >
>> > there is no evidence that organics improve your health
>>
>> Watch the movie. You'll see evidence.
>
>Since when is a movie "evidence"? Show me the double-blind
>scientific studies.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
Yeah that's right!! you tell her!!
aint no one gonna fool this old coot with some whacky opinions because
they want higher sales of their organic crap that contains less than
1% difference in nutritional value
--
____/~~~sine qua non~~~\____
Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 19, 2019, 7:28:59 AM5/19/19
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On Sat, 18 May 2019 05:08:17 -0700, "Julie Bove"
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
><Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl> wrote in message
>news:bncudehffpukaci1m...@4ax.com...
<juli...@frontier.com> wrote:
>
><Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl> wrote in message
>> On Fri, 17 May 2019 08:49:59 -0700 (PDT), ImStillMags
>> <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more
>>>days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>>>
>>>I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup
>>>and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have
>>>our bodies feel better.
>>>
>>>take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>>>
>>>https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>>
>>
>> Here is the lowdown I dont care what the video says...
>> <sitar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I watched a new movie today...... it is free on line for a few more
>>>days.... and I learned some valuable things.
>>>
>>>I highly recommend this film. I had some ideas about GMO foods, Roundup
>>>and organic foods that were wrong. I think we would all like to have
>>>our bodies feel better.
>>>
>>>take the time to watch, you won't regret it
>>>
>>>https://freeshowing.secretingredientsmovie.com/?cookieUUID=dc444035-e119-40f3-a02a-2f4aeb24d347
>>
>>
>>
>> GMO's are still in its infancy and there are really no solid results
>> on effects in the human body.
>>
>> Organics is a complete scam, Sure they are a little healthier as in
>> more vitamins maybe and perhaps a little cleaner. But the little bit
>> is so little it is hardly even noticeable
>
>Organics don't have more vitamins! What they don't have is chemicals!
yeah well you take an organic apple and a non organic apple that has
been washed with soap and water and what do you know you will have a
couple of identical apples, except you would have saved about a dollar
with the non organic.
Nancy2
May 19, 2019, 8:50:49 AM5/19/19
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Ed, that Alaskan farmer has large produce crops under huge plastic-roofed greenhouses,
in addition to some rows and rows and rows outside. He was harvesting carrots this
past week, from one of the outdoor fields.
The other quirky family is the dairy-farming one. All four adult men (father and sons)
have full beards, and the sons seem to be so socially awkward it is uncomfortable to
watch. They were installing a milk processing facility ($600,000 cost) and getting an
extension of time to start paying back their loan. We have yet to see any of the women
in their lives...but the men remind me of a Fundamentalist group in manner and
dress. I think it is odd that they were still willing to be on camera...probably were
getting some payment per episode.
N.
in addition to some rows and rows and rows outside. He was harvesting carrots this
past week, from one of the outdoor fields.
The other quirky family is the dairy-farming one. All four adult men (father and sons)
have full beards, and the sons seem to be so socially awkward it is uncomfortable to
watch. They were installing a milk processing facility ($600,000 cost) and getting an
extension of time to start paying back their loan. We have yet to see any of the women
in their lives...but the men remind me of a Fundamentalist group in manner and
dress. I think it is odd that they were still willing to be on camera...probably were
getting some payment per episode.
N.
graham
May 19, 2019, 8:53:33 AM5/19/19
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On 2019-05-19 2:43 a.m., dsi1 wrote:
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> In article <GHYDE.7181$Lc4....@fx31.iad>, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> History Channel has a series about Farmers. I only saw one episode and
>>> found it interesting. One farmer planted organic alfalfa. Lost the
>>> entire crop because it had more weeds than alfalfa in the harvest.
>>
>> Without pesticides, there would be a hell of a lot fewer of us. Maybe,
>> that's the point of this thread.
>>
>> leo
>
> Ignorance and fear of science and technology is strong these days.
Especially among the anti-vaxers! Idiots all!!!!!!!!
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> In article <GHYDE.7181$Lc4....@fx31.iad>, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> History Channel has a series about Farmers. I only saw one episode and
>>> found it interesting. One farmer planted organic alfalfa. Lost the
>>> entire crop because it had more weeds than alfalfa in the harvest.
>>
>> Without pesticides, there would be a hell of a lot fewer of us. Maybe,
>> that's the point of this thread.
>>
>> leo
>
> Ignorance and fear of science and technology is strong these days.
Terry Coombs
May 19, 2019, 9:47:10 AM5/19/19
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believe that glyphosate is bad for humans and animals to ingest . The
big money pharma corps are doing everything they can to bury anybody
that disagrees with their assertions that this stuff is safe . IMO it
ain't , and I will do what I can to minimize our exposure . Being a
beekeeper , I've also looked at information about the effects it has on
them - fortunately we live far far away from any monocropping operations
where chemicals are in widespread use . Doesn't kill them , but it does
have an effect on their (and our) "gut bacteria" . Did you know that it
was originally patented as an antibiotic ? Remember how a round of
antibiotics tore up your digestion ? Well , glyphosate does the same
damn thing on a much smaller scale , but it's continuous . Now I'm not
an "organic everything" fanatic , but we do try to limit or eliminate
things that we believe will harm our bodies .
--
Snag
Yes , I'm old
and crochety - and armed .
Get outta my woods !
Dave Smith
May 19, 2019, 10:58:05 AM5/19/19
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mumps and measles as an infant and was lucky not to have suffered any
long term effects. Others were no so lucky. We had a number of kids in
our school who had to wear leg braces due to partial paralysis resulting
from having contracted polio. They were pretty dorky looking. Think of
Forrest Gump, but without the miraculous recovery. Never mind the social
effects of being a gimp in the 50s, the suffered the effects for thea
rest of their lives. Even the mildest cases came back decades later and
caused mobility problems.
Those were the older kids. My contemporaries were lucky. We had vaccine
in the primary grades, and I don't know of a single child from the those
lower grades who ever got polio. Vaccinations have also reduced the
incidence of lockjaw, rabies, smallpox, measles, mumps and other serious
and other communicable disease.
graham
May 19, 2019, 12:30:11 PM5/19/19
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On 2019-05-19 7:47 a.m., Terry Coombs wrote:
>
> No fear , uncertainty or doubt here . I've seen enough evidence to
> believe that glyphosate is bad for humans and animals to ingest . The
> big money pharma corps are doing everything they can to bury anybody
> that disagrees with their assertions that this stuff is safe . IMO it
> ain't , and I will do what I can to minimize our exposure . Being a
> beekeeper , I've also looked at information about the effects it has on
> them - fortunately we live far far away from any monocropping operations
> where chemicals are in widespread use . Doesn't kill them , but it does
> have an effect on their (and our) "gut bacteria" . Did you know that it
> was originally patented as an antibiotic ? Remember how a round of
> antibiotics tore up your digestion ? Well , glyphosate does the same
> damn thing on a much smaller scale , but it's continuous . Now I'm not
> an "organic everything" fanatic , but we do try to limit or eliminate
> things that we believe will harm our bodies .
>
What a load of bollocks!!!
>
> No fear , uncertainty or doubt here . I've seen enough evidence to
> believe that glyphosate is bad for humans and animals to ingest . The
> big money pharma corps are doing everything they can to bury anybody
> that disagrees with their assertions that this stuff is safe . IMO it
> ain't , and I will do what I can to minimize our exposure . Being a
> beekeeper , I've also looked at information about the effects it has on
> them - fortunately we live far far away from any monocropping operations
> where chemicals are in widespread use . Doesn't kill them , but it does
> have an effect on their (and our) "gut bacteria" . Did you know that it
> was originally patented as an antibiotic ? Remember how a round of
> antibiotics tore up your digestion ? Well , glyphosate does the same
> damn thing on a much smaller scale , but it's continuous . Now I'm not
> an "organic everything" fanatic , but we do try to limit or eliminate
> things that we believe will harm our bodies .
>
Terry Coombs
May 19, 2019, 2:47:34 PM5/19/19
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Boron Elgar
May 19, 2019, 4:23:23 PM5/19/19
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On Sun, 19 May 2019 08:47:22 -0500, Terry Coombs <snag...@msn.com>
wrote:
>
that have been conducted about ingestion of glyphosates?
>The
>big money pharma corps are doing everything they can to bury anybody
>that disagrees with their assertions that this stuff is safe .
Why would pharmas generally be interested in this? Monsanto has been
the largest producer and it was very recently bought out by Bayer, but
that is the crop science division of Bayer.
> IMO it
>ain't , and I will do what I can to minimize our exposure . Being a
>beekeeper , I've also looked at information about the effects it has on
>them - fortunately we live far far away from any monocropping operations
>where chemicals are in widespread use . Doesn't kill them , but it does
>have an effect on their (and our) "gut bacteria" .
What does the gut biome of bees have to do with humans?
>Did you know that it
>was originally patented as an antibiotic ?
Um, that was because of anti-protozoa activity and never pursued in
any way one would think of antibiotics an humans.
>Remember how a round of
>antibiotics tore up your digestion ?
Well, that is the way any antibiotic works - it'll likely kill off
some good bacteria, too, while making sure that raging infection it's
there to fight off doesn't make you explode as a bag of pus. Remember
how people can drop dead from bacterial infections?
>Well , glyphosate does the same
>damn thing on a much smaller scale , but it's continuous .
WTF are you talking about? "Continuous"? What is continuous?
>Now I'm not
>an "organic everything" fanatic , but we do try to limit or eliminate
>things that we believe will harm our bodies .
I think what you do is hang around fruitcake websites and spout their
bullshit other places online. Put up or shut up.
wrote:
>
> No fear , uncertainty or doubt here . I've seen enough evidence to
>believe that glyphosate is bad for humans and animals to ingest .
Upon what evidence are you basing your statement? Point me to studies
>believe that glyphosate is bad for humans and animals to ingest .
that have been conducted about ingestion of glyphosates?
>The
>big money pharma corps are doing everything they can to bury anybody
>that disagrees with their assertions that this stuff is safe .
the largest producer and it was very recently bought out by Bayer, but
that is the crop science division of Bayer.
> IMO it
>ain't , and I will do what I can to minimize our exposure . Being a
>beekeeper , I've also looked at information about the effects it has on
>them - fortunately we live far far away from any monocropping operations
>where chemicals are in widespread use . Doesn't kill them , but it does
>have an effect on their (and our) "gut bacteria" .
>Did you know that it
>was originally patented as an antibiotic ?
any way one would think of antibiotics an humans.
>Remember how a round of
>antibiotics tore up your digestion ?
some good bacteria, too, while making sure that raging infection it's
there to fight off doesn't make you explode as a bag of pus. Remember
how people can drop dead from bacterial infections?
>Well , glyphosate does the same
>damn thing on a much smaller scale , but it's continuous .
>Now I'm not
>an "organic everything" fanatic , but we do try to limit or eliminate
>things that we believe will harm our bodies .
bullshit other places online. Put up or shut up.
graham
May 19, 2019, 6:23:46 PM5/19/19
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Graham
Julie Bove
May 19, 2019, 9:02:01 PM5/19/19
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Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 20, 2019, 3:10:01 AM5/20/19
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On Sun, 19 May 2019 18:01:50 -0700, "Julie Bove"
Wash all your fruits and vegetables. According to the CSE, washing
them with 2% of salt water will remove most of the contact pesticide
residues that normally appear on the surface of the vegetables and
fruits. Almost 75 to 80 percent of pesticide residues are removed by
cold water washing.
google it.
them with 2% of salt water will remove most of the contact pesticide
residues that normally appear on the surface of the vegetables and
fruits. Almost 75 to 80 percent of pesticide residues are removed by
cold water washing.
google it.
Julie Bove
May 20, 2019, 8:45:48 AM5/20/19
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Christ...@deathtochristianity.pl
May 20, 2019, 1:30:47 PM5/20/19
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On Mon, 20 May 2019 05:45:36 -0700, "Julie Bove"
The bit of info I posted is about plain water, I am fairly sure that
soap and water will get more off.
soap and water will get more off.
Julie Bove
May 20, 2019, 6:42:23 PM5/20/19
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