Re: How many ways can you order your eggs?

[bruce bowser]

On Friday, April 11, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, colf...@minn.net wrote in alt.usage.english:
> On 11 Apr 1997 05:12:07 GMT, st...@spamming.the.net (No spam please)
> wrote:
> >I have been wondering about this for a while. Not being a native speaker,
> >I usually get stumped on simple things that one can't look up on a
> >dictionary, one of which is how to respond to the question "How would you
> >like your eggs?" when ordering breakfast. So can anybody help me with
> >this? How many different ways can you order your eggs?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Stephen
> The obvious answer is "Cooked," but many busy servers in restaurants
> have no sense of humor.
> A few choices: scrambled, poached, basted, sunny side up, over easy,
> or my husband's favorite--"Over hard, break the yolk, and cook them to
> death."
> Carol from Mpls.

There is also "over medium".

[Bryan Simmons]

Which is the way I'd order them. If you ordered basted, almost
no one under 50-55 would know what you were talking about.

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

On 11/13/2022 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
>> On Friday, April 11, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, colf...@minn.net wrote in alt.usage.english:

>>> A few choices: scrambled, poached, basted, sunny side up, over easy,
>>> or my husband's favorite--"Over hard, break the yolk, and cook them to
>>> death."
>>> Carol from Mpls.
>>
>> There is also "over medium".
>>
> Which is the way I'd order them. If you ordered basted, almost
> no one under 50-55 would know what you were talking about.
>
> --Bryan

I regularly cook my eggs that way, low heat with a bit of water, but I
never knew that they were called "basted eggs".

[dsi1]

If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."

https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9

[Ed Pawlowski]

Water sounds like poached. Basted is usually fat spooned over top.

[S Viemeister]

One of my uncles made 'basted' eggs, but he didn't baste them with water
- he used bacon fat, spooned over the eggs as they cooked in the pan.
He made to the age of ninety, so the bacon fat doesn't seem to have
harmed him.

[Hank Rogers]

I thought basted were just fried eggs, but with the hot oil or
butter spooned on the tops periodically to attempt cooking the top
side a little.

[Bryan Simmons]

Correct, but when done with oil or bacon grease not
spooned, but flipped over the top with a spatula. The
goal is to have 100% set white, while leaving the yolk
as liquid as possible.

--Bryan

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."

> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9

Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
add another.

[Cindy Hamilton]

YMMV. My grandfather ate eggs basted in bacon fat, had a stroke
when he was about 68 and died when he was about 72.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

It's all anecdotal. Some people die at the age of 100, with a
cigarette in their mouth. Nevertheless...

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

The Chinese, Thai, Korean, et. al., will blast their eggs at high heat with a lot of oil to make a crisp egg. It's a lot of fun - if you like that sort of thing!

https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg

[Leonard Blaisdell]

On 2022-11-14, Cindy Hamilton <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

> YMMV. My grandfather ate eggs basted in bacon fat, had a stroke
> when he was about 68 and died when he was about 72.

Genetics, eh?

[Cindy Hamilton]

Apparently. Luckily, he was my step-grandfather, so I have some
hope.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 9:13:12 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> > If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>>
>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
>> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
>> add another.
>
> The Chinese, Thai, Korean, et. al., will blast their eggs at high heat with a lot of oil to make a crisp egg. It's a lot of fun - if you like that sort of thing!
>
> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg

That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.

You're welcome (in advance), Bruce. Always happy to give you an
opportunity to mock my wide-ranging tastes in food.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[bruce bowser]

I like to think of them as 'cast'.

[Dave Smith]

I have long been interested in shirred eggs but not enough to try making
them myself. I think we actually had some special vessels fro shirring
eggs. I have no idea what happened to them.

I wonder about the many ways of cooking eggs and if you can break down
scrambled eggs into a number of separate recipes since there are so many
different ways to cook them. You can vary the amount in beating the eggs
before cooking, whether they go into a really hot pan or on low heat,
how soon and how vigorouslsy you stir them, whether you leave the eggs
straight or if you add milk or water, how long you cook them, whether
they should be moist or dry.

My go to for scrambled eggs these days is to beat the eggs in a bowl and
then add some Trinidadian hot sauce. Brown some butter in a pan and
toss in some chopped fresh spinach. Give it about 15 seconds and then
add the eggs and stir gently until the eggs start to set, then remove.
They should be nice and glossy.

[Dave Smith]

On 2022-11-14 5:13 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-11-14, S Viemeister <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> On 14/11/2022 00:09, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 11/13/2022 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, April 11, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, colf...@minn.net wrote
>

>>> I regularly cook my eggs that way, low heat with a bit of water, but I
>>> never knew that they were called "basted eggs".
>>
>> One of my uncles made 'basted' eggs, but he didn't baste them with water
>> - he used bacon fat, spooned over the eggs as they cooked in the pan.
>> He made to the age of ninety, so the bacon fat doesn't seem to have
>> harmed him.
>
> YMMV. My grandfather ate eggs basted in bacon fat, had a stroke
> when he was about 68 and died when he was about 72.
>

My Fil in law's standard breakfast for decades was a couple poached eggs
with a bit of cheese melted on top. He would eat that with a couple
slices of thickly buttered toast with a spoonful of honey on each bite.
He would go out for lunch and have all sorts of high salt and high fat
restaurant meals. He lived to within a month of 95. Other than dying in
his sleep, he was healthy and active to the end.

[bruce bowser]

That fits the description of many Japanese diets, especially in Hawai'i.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 11/14/2022 10:00 AM, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-11-14 2:13 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>>
>>
>> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
>> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
>> add another.
>
> I have long been interested in shirred eggs but not enough to try making
> them myself. I think we actually had some special vessels fro shirring
> eggs.  I have no idea what happened to them.
>

My wife used to make them on occasion. Often she would had a bit of
orange liqueur for an extra treat.

[Graham]

On 2022-11-14 8:00 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-11-14 2:13 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>>
>>
>> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
>> an egg?

I'd never heard of that term so had to look it up. It's basically "oeufs
en cocotte".
I have an egg coddler but have never been sick enough to have to eat in
bed, so I use it to store cloves.

[bruce bowser]

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
> On 2022-11-14 8:00 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> > On 2022-11-14 2:13 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
> >>
> >>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
> >>
> >> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
> >> an egg?

> > ...

>
> I'd never heard of that term so had to look it up. It's basically "oeufs
> en cocotte".

Wow. Does that mean 'Eier in einer Kasserolle' in German? Sounds OK. I probably had it.

> I have an egg coddler but have never been sick enough to have to eat in
> bed, so I use it to store cloves.

A glass jar still might be best, don't you think?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 13:27:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 9:13:12 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> > If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>>>
>>> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>>> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
>>> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
>>> add another.
>>
>> The Chinese, Thai, Korean, et. al., will blast their eggs at high heat with a lot of oil to make a crisp egg. It's a lot of fun - if you like that sort of thing!
>>
>> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg
>
>That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
>like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
>when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
>maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.
>
>You're welcome (in advance), Bruce. Always happy to give you an
>opportunity to mock my wide-ranging tastes in food.

You have to admit it's a great word. Bibimbap.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Bruce]

The Japanese diet is high salt and high fat?

I once read that the average life expectancy in Japan is high, even
though they have a larger percentage of smokers, because their diet is
healthy.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[bruce bowser]

OK, what does diet mean, anyway?
[Wat betekent ,,dieet'' eigenlijk?]

[Bruce]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 10:25:13 -0800 (PST), bruce bowser

They eat more fish, for instance.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Graham]

On 2022-11-14 10:53 a.m., bruce bowser wrote:
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:30:23 AM UTC-5, Graham wrote:
>> On 2022-11-14 8:00 a.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-14 2:13 a.m., Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>>>>
>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>>>>
>>>> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
>>>> an egg?
>>> ...
>>
>> I'd never heard of that term so had to look it up. It's basically "oeufs
>> en cocotte".
>
> Wow. Does that mean 'Eier in einer Kasserolle' in German? Sounds OK. I probably had it.

Depends on the size of the Kasserolle, I suppose.

>
>> I have an egg coddler but have never been sick enough to have to eat in
>> bed, so I use it to store cloves.
>
> A glass jar still might be best, don't you think?

This one is ceramic and it was to hand.

[S Viemeister]

On 14/11/2022 18:21, Bruce wrote:

> The Japanese diet is high salt and high fat?
>
> I once read that the average life expectancy in Japan is high, even
> though they have a larger percentage of smokers, because their diet is
> healthy.
>

The Japanese branch of my family does not appear to have a diet high in
salt and fat.

[Graham]

ISTR that their rate of prostate cancer is also lower than the US.
However, Japanese-Americans match the white American rate.

[S Viemeister]

My half-Japanese cousins live in Japan, and spend time in New Zealand
with the Scottish half of the family.

[dsi1]

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 3:27:44 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 9:13:12 PM UTC-10, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> >> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
> >>
> >> > https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
> >> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
> >> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
> >> add another.
> >
> > The Chinese, Thai, Korean, et. al., will blast their eggs at high heat with a lot of oil to make a crisp egg. It's a lot of fun - if you like that sort of thing!
> >
> > https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg
> That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
> like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
> when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
> maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.
>
> You're welcome (in advance), Bruce. Always happy to give you an
> opportunity to mock my wide-ranging tastes in food.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

A cold egg is not a good thing but it's not worth driving crazy for. My rule of thumb is to slow down when I'm in a hurry: mind over circumstances.

[dsi1]

I had a hard time digesting the name of the dish when I first heard my wife order it in a Hawaiian barbecue restaurant in California. It sounds more like the hip term for bebop jazz or a cartoon onomatopoeia for falling down a short flight of stairs.
The Hawaiian restaurant in CA was really a Korean one. The "Hawaiian" part was kind of a scam to get people to eat there. At the time, Korean food was practically unknown on the mainland but everybody knew of Hawaii, the tourist destination. When I saw the menu, I was confused. My wife was delighted. I was okay with how things turned out.
These days, Korean food is popular and Hawaiian food is still practically unknown in most of the mainland.

[Dave Smith]

I had to look that up. I am completely unfamiliar with Korean food.
There are no Korean restaurants within 15 miles of me and I would have
to pass a lot of good places on the way. Hell, I haven't ever even had
kimchi. Once of these days I will have to give it a try.

[dsi1]

The Hawaiians are pretty good health, fitness, and longevity-wise compared to the mainland. OTOH, If the Hawaiian plate lunch becomes popular on the mainland, it'll probably be declared a public health crisis. Strange, ain't it?

https://www.best-of-oahu.com/hawaiian-plate-lunch.html

[Bruce]

Yes, or those old school comics where clean shaven broad-jawed men get
into fist fights with hoodlums. "Here! Take this! Boom! Bibimbap!"

>
>The Hawaiian restaurant in CA was really a Korean one. The "Hawaiian" part was kind of a scam to get people to eat there. At the time, Korean food was practically unknown on the mainland but everybody knew of Hawaii, the tourist destination. When I saw the menu, I was confused. My wife was delighted. I was okay with how things turned out.
>These days, Korean food is popular and Hawaiian food is still practically unknown in most of the mainland.
>

Here, in the bigger cities, you'll find a Korean restaurant. I've been
to one in Sydney a few times.

I googled and found this:
<https://www.zomato.com/sydney/restaurants/hawaiian>

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

The young people are into Korean food/music/culture. My Korean mother-in-law would probably be delighted. OTOH, I never saw her delighted much with anything - me especially.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4NB73HTlxI

[Cindy Hamilton]

I'm not worried about it being cold; I'm worried about it completely
cooking in the residual heat of the other items.

I'm not the only person driving 80 on the freeway. I'm probably in
the 90th percentile for speed.


--
Cindy Hamilton

[bruce bowser]

I'll never forget, while in Hawai'i, I dated this Asian girl and watched her order a Korean noodles and cabbage plate where right before serving, they put a raw egg right in the middle of it. I was like, wow. A raw egg for dinner?

[jmcquown]

On 11/13/2022 7:09 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 11/13/2022 17:18, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 13, 2022 at 4:15:51 PM UTC-6, bruce bowser wrote:
>>> On Friday, April 11, 1997 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, colf...@minn.net wrote

>>> in alt.usage.english:

>>>> A few choices: scrambled, poached, basted, sunny side up, over easy,
>>>> or my husband's favorite--"Over hard, break the yolk, and cook them to
>>>> death."
>>>> Carol from Mpls.
>>>
>>> There is also "over medium".
>>>

>> Which is the way I'd order them.  If you ordered basted, almost
>> no one under 50-55 would know what you were talking about.
>>
>> --Bryan

>
> I regularly cook my eggs that way, low heat with a bit of water, but I
> never knew that they were called "basted eggs".

That's because those aren't "basted eggs". Basted eggs are cooked with
hot fat spooned over the top, not cooked in water.

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 11/14/2022 2:13 AM, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9
>
>
> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
> add another.

I don't know about "ordering" eggs in a restaurant since that's not
something I do very often. I do like to cook a couple of soft boiled
eggs occasionally for my weekend breakfast. Yolks still soft but not runny.

Jill

[dsi1]

80 MPH is like the sound barrier in Hawaii - few have ever gone faster.

[dsi1]

That's like hardcore Korean on this rock. Did she smell heavily of garlic? That's the way my wife used to smell. It's caused by the kim chee they eat every day. I found it intoxicating.

[dsi1]

FWIW, McD's, KFC, and Pizza Hut tend to be much better in Korea for some reason than in the US.

This is also true in Europe, Japan, and other parts of the world I've been too.

[dsi1]

Japan is a strong ally now but also an incredibly foreign culture. Having been there a few times I am always amazed at how unique it really is and how differently it can view the world. And historically prone to quite extraordinary and sudden shifts in its approach to the world.

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe there's some alcohol in dat rotten cabbage, uncle.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/14/2022 2:13, Leonard Blaisdell wrote:
> On 2022-11-14, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> If you're at a McDonald's, you can order them "round."
>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJwvjGTpVaEnJb8A9

It's crazy how the McDonalds menu varies from area to area. Ours surely
doesn't carry fried SPAM or rice. I've never seem them serve a round
egg like that, but on the *rare* occasion (it's been years) that I order
a bagel breakfast sandwich from a McDonalds, I did ask them to
substitute a round egg, just like yours, instead of the standard dry
from frozen "folded" variety.

> Nobody has mentioned "shirred". I wonder how many ways there are to cook
> an egg? I'm sure google will pretend an answer. Yep. Any one of us could
> add another.

Thanks, I learned a new thing today. I've never heard of "shirred"
eggs. Seems to be a some-what complicated way to bake them.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/14/2022 13:18, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 13:27:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>

>>> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg

Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.

>> That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
>> like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
>> when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
>> maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.

It's crazy how 80 MPH in newer cars feels like nothing. The 30 year old
car that I use to commute cross-country feels like it's going to break
apart driving faster than 65 MPH or so.

I finally looked up Bibimbap... quite frankly, I'm still confused as to
what's in it, aside from rice and egg. Noodles, and veggies, maybe?
Pictures look good. I'd give it a try, if anyone around here served it.
I think I'd rather eat in, instead of racing home "like a maniac".

>> You're welcome (in advance), Bruce. Always happy to give you an
>> opportunity to mock my wide-ranging tastes in food.
>
> You have to admit it's a great word. Bibimbap.

Bibimbap usage on RFC in the past month:

Cindy: 1
Bruce: 50+ ?

[Bruce]

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:34:01 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 11/14/2022 13:18, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 13:27:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg
>
>Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
>egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.

Poor diddums! Do the edges hurt your little mouthy?

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Michael Trew]

On 11/14/2022 23:36, Bruce wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:34:01 -0500, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>> On 11/14/2022 13:18, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 13:27:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>>>>> The Chinese, Thai, Korean, et. al., will blast their eggs at high heat with a lot of oil to make a crisp egg. It's a lot of fun - if you like that sort of thing!
>>>>>

>>>>> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg
>>
>> Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
>> egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.
>
> Poor diddums! Do the edges hurt your little mouthy?

Would you prefer if I plunk you back into my "bin of shame"? It would
please a number of other RFC posters if I did so. I promise to do my
damnedest to not mention "Bruce" again, afterward, if it so pleases you.

[dsi1]

On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 3:17:49 PM UTC-10, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Maybe there's some alcohol in dat rotten cabbage, uncle.

You've been derelict in you duties, you gap-toothed, mouth-breathing, county-hick. I post on rfc and you're supposed to write some stupid response. You ain't been doing that. Yoose can't do the simplest of jobs, boy! I ain't your uncle, I'm Tojo - bakatare!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ga1fDJGKG0

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-14, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

> 80 MPH is like the sound barrier in Hawaii - few have ever gone faster.

In my misspent youth, I think I had my car up to 110 on a brand-new
freeway. I'd never have tried it on an old, potholed surface that
had undergone multiple freeze/thaw cycles.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-15, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 11/14/2022 13:18, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 13:27:37 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
>> <hami...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 2022-11-14, dsi1<dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://cookieandkate.com/images/2018/09/crispy-fried-egg-recipe.jpg
>
> Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
> egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.

It's a matter of taste. When I have surplus egg whites (for example,
if I've used yolks to make hollandaise), I fire up some bacon grease
and try to achieve that crispy-edged texture. Maybe I should use
oil with a higher smoke point. Although the bacon grease is yummy.

>>> That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
>>> like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
>>> when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
>>> maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.
>
> It's crazy how 80 MPH in newer cars feels like nothing. The 30 year old
> car that I use to commute cross-country feels like it's going to break
> apart driving faster than 65 MPH or so.

Shoot, Michael, my Toyota Highlander is almost 20. Of course, its
curb weight might have something to do with the ride.

My husband's FJ Cruiser is even heavier and gives a smoother ride.

> I finally looked up Bibimbap... quite frankly, I'm still confused as to
> what's in it, aside from rice and egg. Noodles, and veggies, maybe?

Rice, meat (usually beef), vegetables.

https://www.seriouseats.com/bibimbap

The place where we get takeout offers beef, chicken, pork, or tofu
as the protein.

> Pictures look good. I'd give it a try, if anyone around here served it.
> I think I'd rather eat in, instead of racing home "like a maniac".

If the food were for me, I would have eaten in. My husband was home
in his workshop, waiting for CindyEats to deliver his lunch.

I drive pretty maniacally all the time. 80 is actually my preferred
freeway speed.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:12:02 -0500, Michael Trew

<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 11/14/2022 23:36, Bruce wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:34:01 -0500, Michael Trew
>> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
>>> egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.
>>
>> Poor diddums! Do the edges hurt your little mouthy?
>
>Would you prefer if I plunk you back into my "bin of shame"?

Why do you ask me if you should stick to a deal you made? That's
entirely up to you and your strength of character.

People say the most horrible things here and you never seem to hold
that against them. You keep happily chatting along with them. But one
innocent and silly comment at your own expense and you're up in arms.

RFC, For All Your Double Standards

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Bruce]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 09:52:20 GMT, Cindy Hamilton
<hami...@invalid.com> wrote:

>On 2022-11-15, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
>> egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.
>
>It's a matter of taste. When I have surplus egg whites (for example,
>if I've used yolks to make hollandaise), I fire up some bacon grease
>and try to achieve that crispy-edged texture. Maybe I should use
>oil with a higher smoke point. Although the bacon grease is yummy.
>
>>>> That's what the egg on top of my husband's order of bibimbap looked
>>>> like last Thursday when we got takeout. I always feel like a hero
>>>> when the yolk is still runny by the time I've driven home like a
>>>> maniac. I can do 80 on the freeway if traffic isn't heavy.
>>
>> It's crazy how 80 MPH in newer cars feels like nothing. The 30 year old
>> car that I use to commute cross-country feels like it's going to break
>> apart driving faster than 65 MPH or so.
>
>Shoot, Michael, my Toyota Highlander is almost 20. Of course, its
>curb weight might have something to do with the ride.

And don't forget the weight of the people in the car.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

Bibimbap is rice topped with veggies, meat, topped with a fried egg. The first time my wife ordered it, I thought it was a very beautiful dish. I was shocked when she dug into it with two spoons and mixed it up. I've never ordered it myself. Some places serve stone pot bibimbap in a heated stone bowl. This is popular because the rice on the bottom gets crispy. The Koreans love crispy rice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0luoGkddtYw

[Gary]

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> I'm not the only person driving 80 on the freeway. I'm probably in
> the 90th percentile for speed.

That's true. Drive the speed limit on an interstate and most people will
pass you quickly.

Now that the US is all concerned with saving energy and gas and all
that, I'm surprised that they don't reduce highway speeds back to 55MPH
like they did during the fuel crisis in the 1970's.

Supposedly, it was proven that the lower speeds reduced the use of gas
per mile.

[GM]

*Please* do so...

--
GM

[Dave Smith]

I have noted that with every care I have ever owned. Driving along at
50-55 mph results in significantly better mileage than 60 or more and
mileage drops even more when doing 70 or more.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:52:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> >
> I have noted that with every care I have ever owned. Driving along at
> 50-55 mph results in significantly better mileage than 60 or more and
> mileage drops even more when doing 70 or more.
>

The car I own now, going 55 or so mph I get average gas mileage, 16 or 17
mpg. But let me get it up to 75 or above then my mileage increases to 23
or 25 mpg. The most I've ever gotten was 27 mpg and yes, I was flying down
the road.

[bruce bowser]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 1:02:41 PM UTC-5, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 8:52:10 AM UTC-6, Dave Smith wrote:
> > >
> > I have noted that with every care I have ever owned. Driving along at
> > 50-55 mph results in significantly better mileage than 60 or more and
> > mileage drops even more when doing 70 or more.
> >
> The car I own now, going 55 or so mph I get average gas mileage

Joan, I think that's the best mileage you can get.

[Bruce]

Average gas mileage is the best mileage she can get?

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

My average is 18 to 20 MPG. I can get better mileage but who cares? I can only get an average of 18 to 20. That sucks.

[GM]

You can't get up to speed on Da Rock, because the only place you can "drive" to is into the ocean...

Also your vehicals are all powered by very inefficient poi juice...

Dat's da breaks...!!!

--
GM

[Bruce]

I never know how Americans (or Australians) count this. With 1 liter
of diesel I can drive 10 kilometers. But y'all count differently. 19
MPG means you can drive 8 kilometers with one liter. That's not very
far, is it? Is your car a fuel guzzler?

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

It's not really a gas guzzler but I can only go around 5 miles on a liter of gasoline. Maybe you have a magic car.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 13:54:26 -0800 (PST), dsi1

That's 7.5 km for you, 10 km for me (pickup). Modern cars can go
towards 20 km on a liter, depending on highway or city traffic, of
course. I guess we both lose. Do you have a very big or very old car?

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

Just how many liters do you have in a gallon of fuel? All I got is 3.79 L.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 14:08:53 -0800 (PST), dsi1

I used this website:
<https://www.omnicalculator.com/conversion/fueld-economy-converter>

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Cindy Hamilton]

Driving conditions have quite an effect. Sitting at stop lights
gets you 0 miles per gallon for the duration of the stop light.
Stop-and-go traffic isn't much better.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

There is also the extra fuel it takes to accelerate when the traffic
starts moving again.

[dsi1]

Indeed it does. Most of my trips are 3 or 4 miles at less than 35 MPH. If I commuted, I could get about 25 MPG.

[Ed Pawlowski]

Many cars have a readout for the trip. My car can get 27 mpg on the
highway. When I lived in CT, a 2 mile trip in winter would get me 9 to
10, warmed up a bit on the return 11 to 12. Jump on the highway and it
is soon up to 20.

[Bruce]

Ok, I looked it up. The average Dutch -and I suppose European- car
uses 1:15. It goes 15 kms/10 miles on one litre. Converted to American
that's 35 MPG. Why do Ed's and dsi1's car use so much more? I thought
the days when Americans drove hearses were over.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[dsi1]

In my case, I make very short trips. In your case, you have diesel.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/15/2022 4:52, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2022-11-15, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> It's crazy how 80 MPH in newer cars feels like nothing. The 30 year old
>> car that I use to commute cross-country feels like it's going to break
>> apart driving faster than 65 MPH or so.
>
> Shoot, Michael, my Toyota Highlander is almost 20. Of course, its
> curb weight might have something to do with the ride.
>
> My husband's FJ Cruiser is even heavier and gives a smoother ride.

Might be curb weight. My '89 Olds Cutlass is very smooth at 80 MPH, but
I still don't like going that fast. Most of my vehicles have some level
of front end or mechanical wear that make a top speed of 60-65 more
comfortable. Not particularly unsafe vehicles, but I know the limit.
If a significant shimmy shows up at 70 MPH, I just drive slower.

>> I finally looked up Bibimbap...
>

> Rice, meat (usually beef), vegetables.
>

>> Pictures look good. I'd give it a try, if anyone around here served it.
>> I think I'd rather eat in, instead of racing home "like a maniac".
>
> If the food were for me, I would have eaten in. My husband was home
> in his workshop, waiting for CindyEats to deliver his lunch.

Haha, that's nifty. I doubt that there's a Korean restaurant anywhere
near me, but that is something that I'd like to try, some day.

Maybe this place in Pittsburgh: https://greenpepperpgh.com/menu/

Although, Bibimbap at $18.69 seems a little spendy to me.

Another place I found called "Bae Bae's Kitchen" has it for $15, but an
extra 6 or 7 dollars for protein added in, so perhaps that's a fair price.

[Michael Trew]

No, the huge old wood-sided station wagons were replaced with modern
popular large SUV's and trucks (unfortunately), which barely break 20
MPG -- some not even. Small SUV's might get 25 MPG.

If I'm only getting 15-20 MPG, it better be an old boat-size station
wagon that rides like a cloud down the highway. This isn't practical
for most driving, so Geo Metro (or Suzuki Cultus, Holden Barina,
whatever) for almost everything.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/15/2022 4:54, Bruce wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 00:12:02 -0500, Michael Trew
> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
>> On 11/14/2022 23:36, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 23:34:01 -0500, Michael Trew
>>> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, I just can't do that. I'm very disappointed if served an
>>>> egg with over-browned crispy edges. It's just tough and scratchy.
>>>
>>> Poor diddums! Do the edges hurt your little mouthy?
>>
>> Would you prefer if I plunk you back into my "bin of shame"?
>
> Why do you ask me if you should stick to a deal you made? That's
> entirely up to you and your strength of character.

I didn't ask if I should, I asked if you'd prefer. I prefer not to hide
any posts, myself, but I also like to save myself aggravation and annoyance.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/15/2022 1:44, dsi1 wrote:
> On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 3:17:49 PM UTC-10, Hank Rogers
> wrote:
>> Maybe there's some alcohol in dat rotten cabbage, uncle.
>
> You've been derelict in you duties, you gap-toothed, mouth-breathing,
> county-hick. I post on rfc and you're supposed to write some stupid
> response. You ain't been doing that. Yoose can't do the simplest of
> jobs, boy! I ain't your uncle, I'm Tojo - bakatare!

[mic drop]

[Bruce]

I'm not sure what you mean when you say truck (pickup?), but those
ugly SUVs are here a lot too. I'm not much into cars, but if I have to
choose, I'd choose cars from before the 90s. At least the European and
Australian ones, the hearses not always.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Dave Smith]

Yet you continue to respond to the guy whose sole purpose here is to
aggravate and annoy.

[Bruce]

On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 23:37:38 -0500, Michael Trew

I'd rather not be in any killfiles, but I can't start pussy-footing to
avoid ending up in some. I don't think I say very nasty things to
people. Maybe a bit after they've killfiled me, because that makes me
lose respect for them.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Bruce]

I'd like to speak up in defense of gap-toothed people. RFC's an
inclusive newsgroup.
<https://diamondbraces.com/static/01405b39a74fac1d15176117b7f689ef/1041d/Spaces-gaps-between-teeth-1.jpg>

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Bruce]

That's a matter of perception. In my perception I'm a constructive and
uplifting contributor to RFC.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Bruce]

>In my case, I make very short trips. In your case, you have diesel.

Yes, you probably do mainly city traffic. Although with all the
potholes I have to avoid and slow down for...

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-16, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>
> If I'm only getting 15-20 MPG, it better be an old boat-size station
> wagon that rides like a cloud down the highway. This isn't practical
> for most driving, so Geo Metro (or Suzuki Cultus, Holden Barina,
> whatever) for almost everything.

Really? Not practical? I would find a Metro impractical. How
do you get anywhere in more than a couple inches of snow?

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-16, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>

> Maybe this place in Pittsburgh: https://greenpepperpgh.com/menu/
>
> Although, Bibimbap at $18.69 seems a little spendy to me.



> Another place I found called "Bae Bae's Kitchen" has it for $15, but an
> extra 6 or 7 dollars for protein added in, so perhaps that's a fair price.

That is kind of high. Bae Bae's Kitchen is in the Cultural District.
It seems kind of fancy.

"We are a Korean Inspired eatery focusing on local, healthy, organic
ingredients. Our guests are like our family and friends, we only want
to provide the best, most nutritious, most delicious foods to them.
Everything is made daily and service stops when we run out."

It's a little harder to tell from Green Pepper's website, but it looks
pretty high-end as well.

My regular Korean spot is a storefront in a strip mall. It seems
to have one employee plus the owners. Bibimbap is $12.99.
https://www.arirangannarbor.com/index.html

This is arguably the most modest Korean restaurant in town:
https://broadwaycafehoagie.com/

We appear to have 19 restaurants that serve Korean food, including
places that also serve, for example, American breakfasts, hoagies,
or other Asian cuisines.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

Solution: Don't live there.

--
Bruce
<https://emalm.com/?v=SQqZJ>

[bruce bowser]

Have you considered moving to the Figueroa St. of Los Angeles? I'm sure you can find better Korean restaurants.

[Michael Trew]

On 11/16/2022 4:38, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> That is kind of high. Bae Bae's Kitchen is in the Cultural District.
> It seems kind of fancy.
>

> It's a little harder to tell from Green Pepper's website, but it looks
> pretty high-end as well.
>
> My regular Korean spot is a storefront in a strip mall. It seems
> to have one employee plus the owners. Bibimbap is $12.99.
> https://www.arirangannarbor.com/index.html
>
> This is arguably the most modest Korean restaurant in town:
> https://broadwaycafehoagie.com/
>
> We appear to have 19 restaurants that serve Korean food, including
> places that also serve, for example, American breakfasts, hoagies,
> or other Asian cuisines.

Wow, I don't think that even Pittsburgh has anywhere near that many. I
found the two places which I sent from a quick web search. Of the top
three hits, the other one was "Asian", but didn't specifically mention
"Korean" or "Bibimbap" on their menu.

$12.99 seems a lot more reasonable to me. A lot of the menu items from
the "Broadway Cafe" looked very good as well. It seems that you have a
far better selection of restaurants around, than I have for a few hours
drive, for some reason. Youngstown is within an hour, but certainly
lower-end compared to Pittsburgh.

This place in Youngstown doesn't seem to have a website. What I could
see of the reviews on Yelp from a search engine looked good, but for
some reason, Yelp won't render on any of my web browsers.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/korea-austintown

[Michael Trew]

Most of the practicality is the efficiency and frugality.

That being said, I can over over "more than a couple of inches of snow"
With ease. The skinny tires cut through most snow. A light car goes
right over top of dense snow which I see many larger vehicles stuck in.
The only issue arises when you get too cocky and slide right off of
the road.

I've never owned a 4WD vehicle (even though I've owned over 40
vehicles). A Metro with studded snow tires is like a cat on carpet. Of
course, these little thin metal cars rust out very easily, and I only
winter-drive one that I don't care about. That's my poor convertible
this year. Working heater, and wrecked on all sides.

[GM]

A Metro article 4 U :

https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/1990-geo-metro-embracing-the-suzuki-method/

1990 Geo Metro – Embracing the Suzuki Method

"... The ultimate expression of the If-You-Can’t-Beat-‘Em-Join-‘Em philosophy, Geo came together in 1989 when deals were struck with Toyota, Suzuki, and Isuzu, respectively, to provide a variety of cars that would have a new badge applied on front and back and be sold as Geos. After sweating blood and treasure to produce a series of so-called game changing small cars starting with the Corvair and extending through the Vega, Chevette, and J-Cars, GM finally threw in the towel and hired someone else rather than go back to the drawing board once again. The fact that the General had plenty of perfectly acceptable small cars being screwed together by its overseas divisions across the globe and chose not to certify and ship them to the U.S. may seem puzzling, but many of Smith’s decisions seem odd in retrospect..."

<|>

[Michael Trew]

On 11/16/2022 23:35, GM wrote:
> On Wednesday, November 16, 2022 at 10:27:35 PM UTC-6, Michael Trew
> wrote:
>> Most of the practicality is the efficiency and frugality.
>>
>> That being said, I can over over "more than a couple of inches of
>> snow" With ease.
>

> A Metro article 4 U :
>
> https://www.curbsideclassic.com/cars-of-a-lifetime/1990-geo-metro-embracing-the-suzuki-method/
>
> 1990 Geo Metro – Embracing the Suzuki Method

Best of all, they were assembled in Canada, not over-seas.

I do branch out from the humble Geo plenty of times. I just went out to
look at a 1964 Oldsmobile 88 hard-top sedan the other day -- talk about
a boat! I talked the guy down to $1,200 for a running/driving example.
I'll probably be back on Friday to cap off the blown rear brakes and
drive 'er over an hour home. ;)

Boy, I bet I can smoke the tires with the 394 cu in Oldsmobile Rocket
V8. Just try not to look at the fuel gauge. Bonus points if it no
longer works -- Infinite MPG!!!

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-17, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:
> On 11/16/2022 4:38, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> That is kind of high. Bae Bae's Kitchen is in the Cultural District.
>> It seems kind of fancy.
>>
>> It's a little harder to tell from Green Pepper's website, but it looks
>> pretty high-end as well.
>>
>> My regular Korean spot is a storefront in a strip mall. It seems
>> to have one employee plus the owners. Bibimbap is $12.99.
>> https://www.arirangannarbor.com/index.html
>>
>> This is arguably the most modest Korean restaurant in town:
>> https://broadwaycafehoagie.com/
>>
>> We appear to have 19 restaurants that serve Korean food, including
>> places that also serve, for example, American breakfasts, hoagies,
>> or other Asian cuisines.
>
> Wow, I don't think that even Pittsburgh has anywhere near that many. I
> found the two places which I sent from a quick web search. Of the top
> three hits, the other one was "Asian", but didn't specifically mention
> "Korean" or "Bibimbap" on their menu.

College town. Lots of Asian students and engineers at spin-off tech
companies. In 1972, a Korean couple bought a lunch counter just
off campus and started phasing in Korean dishes along with the
American dishes.

> $12.99 seems a lot more reasonable to me. A lot of the menu items from
> the "Broadway Cafe" looked very good as well. It seems that you have a
> far better selection of restaurants around, than I have for a few hours
> drive, for some reason. Youngstown is within an hour, but certainly
> lower-end compared to Pittsburgh.

Plenty of money here, so a big market for restaurants.

> This place in Youngstown doesn't seem to have a website. What I could
> see of the reviews on Yelp from a search engine looked good, but for
> some reason, Yelp won't render on any of my web browsers.
>
> https://www.yelp.com/biz/korea-austintown

Someone uploaded pictures of their menu:

https://www.restaurantji.com/oh/youngstown/korea-/

Pretty hard-core if you don't read Korean (which I don't). The dishes
all have English descriptions, but they're not very illuminating.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On 2022-11-17, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> On 11/16/2022 4:23, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2022-11-16, Michael Trew<michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> If I'm only getting 15-20 MPG, it better be an old boat-size station
>>> wagon that rides like a cloud down the highway. This isn't practical
>>> for most driving, so Geo Metro (or Suzuki Cultus, Holden Barina,
>>> whatever) for almost everything.
>>
>> Really? Not practical? I would find a Metro impractical. How
>> do you get anywhere in more than a couple inches of snow?
>
> Most of the practicality is the efficiency and frugality.

Not enough utility. Can't pull a trailer.

> That being said, I can over over "more than a couple of inches of snow"
> With ease. The skinny tires cut through most snow. A light car goes
> right over top of dense snow which I see many larger vehicles stuck in.
> The only issue arises when you get too cocky and slide right off of
> the road.

I had a Toyota Matrix. Damn thing had so little ground clearance,
a shovel was a necessary accessory. I got tired of digging it out
of parking spaces and out of the end of my own damned driveway, and
took over my husband's Honda CRV. He was replacing it with a
Toyota Highlander (could pull a heavier trailer) so we traded in
my Matrix.

> I've never owned a 4WD vehicle (even though I've owned over 40
> vehicles). A Metro with studded snow tires is like a cat on carpet. Of
> course, these little thin metal cars rust out very easily, and I only
> winter-drive one that I don't care about. That's my poor convertible
> this year. Working heater, and wrecked on all sides.

Studs are illegal here, and have been for about 50 years.

--
Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

On Tuesday, November 15, 2022 at 4:52:10 AM UTC-10, Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2022-11-15 9:00 a.m., Gary wrote:
> > Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >> I'm not the only person driving 80 on the freeway. I'm probably in
> >> the 90th percentile for speed.
> >
> > That's true. Drive the speed limit on an interstate and most people will
> > pass you quickly.
> >
> > Now that the US is all concerned with saving energy and gas and all
> > that, I'm surprised that they don't reduce highway speeds back to 55MPH
> > like they did during the fuel crisis in the 1970's.
> >
> > Supposedly, it was proven that the lower speeds reduced the use of gas
> > per mile.

> >
> >
> I have noted that with every care I have ever owned. Driving along at
> 50-55 mph results in significantly better mileage than 60 or more and
> mileage drops even more when doing 70 or more.

My rough calculations show the aerodynamic drag forces on a car going 70 would be almost twice that of a car going 50. I don't know this relates to gas consumption but it's easy enough to find out. Set your MPG display to an instantaneous reading. Find a flat road and drive 50 MPH. Then go 70 MPH and compare the MPG readings.

[Gary]

Michael Trew wrote:
> I've never owned a 4WD vehicle (even though I've owned over 40
> vehicles).  A Metro with studded snow tires is like a cat on carpet.  Of
> course, these little thin metal cars rust out very easily, and I only
> winter-drive one that I don't care about.  That's my poor convertible
> this year.  Working heater, and wrecked on all sides.

A pic of this convertible would be nice. I'm curious. :)

[Ed Pawlowski]

Could be this one
https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1137860_genesis-x-convertible-concept-revealed

[Mike Duffy]

On 2022-11-17, Michael Trew <michae...@att.net> wrote:

> Boy, I bet I can smoke the tires with the 394
> cu in Oldsmobile Rocket V8.

Excellent, Michael. This looks like the perfect
vehicle for the fuel-air explosion demo.

I'll pay for the gas if I can participate.

(Full octane. If we're trashing a car with
major pending repairs, perhaps we can even
bump the octane rating over 100 with a bit
of kerosene, benzene, acetone or even some
nitromethane.)

[GM]

Ah, good choice...!!!

--
GM

[dsi1]

I used to have one of those big boats. You could smoke those tires easily. I don't think that I ever had more than my girlfriend and me in that car. It was replaced with a 67 Barracuda - a much better choice for a nice, young, couple.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b6/1968_Mercury_Park_Lane_Brougham.jpg/800px-1968_Mercury_Park_Lane_Brougham.jpg