Got my damaged Leaf back!

[John Kuthe]

https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg

$4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>
>$4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!

Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
footage from a camera on a building.

[John Kuthe]

What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their appearance!


John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:16:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>> >
>> >$4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>>
>> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>> footage from a camera on a building.
>
>What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO!

I didn't say that. But a driver whose camera caught the incident and
the licence plate could have contacted you or the police (provided
he'd not be black).

>I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance
>NOT for their appearance!

I prefer a really good looking car that doesn't start.

[jmcquown]

On 7/28/2020 6:59 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>
> $4196.17 in mechanical damage

(snipped)

What the hell did you pay them $4197 to do?!

Jill

[John Kuthe]

Replace most of the right rear end suspension parts and both aluminum wheels and make it drive nice again. I don't care about the appearance, I care about the function! I buy cars for their function, not their appearance.

John Kuthe...

[jmcquown]

Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
$4196 for?!

Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have taken
care of the repair (including any body work). All you'd have had to do
was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000. You
really like throwing money away, don't you?

Jill

[Alex]

That sucks...

[jmcquown]

You were ripped off (yet again). Obviously you don't have sufficient
insurance coverage otherwise all you'd have had to do was pay the
deductible, which wouldn't have been anywhere near $4000.

I suspect you have either a very bad driving record or are too simply
don't know enough to pay for full insurance (Liability & Collision, aka
Comprehensive). You bought the car used to begin with. I have no idea
why you think spending $4000 to fix it is a good thing. You can buy a
2012 Leaf for what you paid to fix that one.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-28 7:32 p.m., jmcquown wrote:

> Oh good lord.  If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
> when it happened, they'd have investigated.  If there were witnesses,
> they'd have asked questions.  They'd have checked traffic cameras.  Even
> way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras.  You
> said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours.  What did you pay
> $4196 for?!
>
> Someone else brought up insurance.  Collision insurance would have taken
> care of the repair (including any body work).  All you'd have had to do
> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000.  You
> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>

A fool and his money......

[Hank Rogers]

Speaking of performance, have you raced many other cars lately?
I remember you having lots of drag races not too long ago. Just
about every day for a while.

[Hank Rogers]

Before you ever junk it, you could have a lot of fun running in the
demolition derby at the county fair. Using only electricity, ZERO
gasoline!

[John Kuthe]

I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving them all your MONEY!

And you also CHOOSE to still burn gasoline just because it's what you've always done and probably built your lifestyle around it! :-(

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Yes it does, but I have my 100% electric car back!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

Different performance metric! My Leaf has the license plate "INF-MPG" for a REASON! INFinite MPG! I bought a gallon of gasoline and put in my garage and no matter how far I drive my Nissan Leaf that gallon stays FULL!

How many dollars worth of POISON to you BUY to drag race? HA! :-(

John Kuthe...

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:13:28 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>> On 7/28/2020 7:16 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>> >>
>> >> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>> >> footage from a camera on a building.
>> >
>> > What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their appearance!
>> >
>> >
>> > John Kuthe...
>> >
>> Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
>> when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
>> they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
>> way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
>> said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
>> $4196 for?!
>>
>> Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have taken
>> care of the repair (including any body work). All you'd have had to do
>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000. You
>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>
>> Jill
>
>I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving them all your MONEY!

Who's going to take out comprehensive car insurance for an old car?
You guys nuts or summin'?

[Bruce]

I'd rather get the old one fixed for 4000 than get a new old one for
4000.

[John Kuthe]

I bought my 2013 Leaf at a Bommarito Used Vehicle lot in 2016 after a completely unexpected $80,000 inheritance I got from my aunt, my father's younger sister. I paid just under $10,000 for it, and it's the best car I've owned ever since! Almost ZERO maintenance, uses ZERO gasoline, etc.! And now I had to pay another $4000 to get the rear end mechanicals replaced after probably being hit my a stolen car. I'm just glad I had all that money when I needed it! :-)

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

So you have quit street racing now?

[Bruce]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:44:23 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

And this car you know. If you'd bought a new old one for $4000, it
could have been a lemon.

[John Kuthe]

The ONLY time I "raced" my Nissan Leaf was in 2016 when I was stopped at a red light next to a young kid in a Honda or something on a lovely Fall day and I slid the passenger window down and looked over at him and asked him if he wanted to "go for it"? He nodded yes so I slid the passenger window back up as I heard him revving his Internal Combustion Engine powered POS as I smiled and placed my foot over the accelerator pedal of the Leaf and thought to myself "He has no idea what to expect!"

When the light turned green I floored it and he tried to keep up but with the immediate TORQUE my Leaf has he just could not and by the time I got to a little jog in the road I looked at my speedo and was going 75MPH and was still accelerating! I beat him to Delmar too and educated him about electric cars! :-) And when first off the red light I regularly once again will beat every ICE vehicle on the road across any street! It's that quick!

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe...

[Hank Rogers]

Before you run out of money, maybe you'll get lucky again and
someone will die.

[Hank Rogers]

I remember this story and several other racing stories. Didn't seem
4 years ago, but maybe time slipped by.

[Hank Rogers]

The beat to hell body just gives it more character.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg

How did that damage happen?

>$4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!

Kewl that your coal powered electricity is apparently free.

[Jeßus]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:16:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>> >
>> >$4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>>
>> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>> footage from a camera on a building.
>
>What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into?

What sort of vehicle caused that damage like that? The leading edge of
every car, truck or even bike I can think of wouldn't be anywhere near
as low as that. I'm not buying your story, John.

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/28/2020 9:13 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>> Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have taken
>> care of the repair (including any body work). All you'd have had to do
>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000. You
>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>
>> Jill
>
> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving them all your MONEY!

> John Kuthe...
>

Insurance is probably $300 a yea and you've had the car for about three
years now. So for $900 you would have saved $4000. Actually more as
they would have fixed the body for another $2500.

[Ed Pawlowski]

I've had some old clunkers that were not insured but when you have
something worth $10,000 t0 $50,000 it sure pays to have it. Can often
be had very cheap on the older cars.

[Hank Rogers]

The way things go, it doesn't make much sense to do any bodywork.
It'll just get bent up again in a few weeks.

If he used insurance, by now he would have been dropped or the
rates would be astronomical. He's probably figured this out and
taken the best approach for his situation.

[Bruce]

My car's 36 years old. I only have 3rd party for it.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:5402if9vlbe0s61bc...@4ax.com...

==

LOL what is is?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:vbk1if9d3441e2vuc...@4ax.com...

===

Amen to that!

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:58:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

A Toyota Hilux. What Australians call a ute.

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:32:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/28/2020 7:16 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

> >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
> >>>
> >>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
> >>

> >> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
> >> footage from a camera on a building.
> >
> > What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their appearance!
> >
> >
> > John Kuthe...
> >
> Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
> when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
> they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
> way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
> said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
> $4196 for?!

Missouri requires that accidents be reported to the police within 30 days.
John is a scofflaw in this as he is in so many things.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

"Definition of scofflaw: a contemptuous law violator"
<https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scofflaw>

John, you're a contemptuous law violator! That's so disappointing!

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:

> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>
> $4196.17

Casual nerds will note that this number is exactly 2^12 + a cool
$100. That's not coincidence.

> in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay

And you could have bought a Tesla and paid THAT off by not wrecking
your piece of shit 8 year-old Nissan Leaf so often. So I'm not sure
I see your logic here.

But I beleive that YOU believe it makes sense to you. Now put the
Uzi down...

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:22:16 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe wrote:
>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>
>> $4196.17
>
> Casual nerds will note that this number is exactly 2^12 + a cool
> $100. That's not coincidence.

How in the fuck was there $4K in mechanical damages to that side
swipe anyway!??!?!?!?! Who has the original picture...

-sw

[Gary]

John Kuthe wrote:
>
> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving them all your MONEY!

John, did you even look at your insurance policy?

Even libility insurance policies offer an "uninsured motorist
fee" for very few dollars extra ($6-$10) every 6 months.
That would cover your accident and pay for it, less a
deductible.

"Uninsured motorist coverage protects you and your property
after an accident when the at-fault driver does not have
insurance." It covers hit and run drivers too.

I had a hit and run driver smash into the back of my van once
while it was parked at night. It was covered.

[Gary]

Bruce wrote:
>
> Who's going to take out comprehensive car insurance for an old car?
> You guys nuts or summin'?

Remember my old Volvo story? It was a few years old and I paid
only $1500 on a Friday. I called up immediately and only got
liability insurance coverage.

Later that evening I found out it had a book value of $6500.
So we didn't drive it that weekend until I could add the
comprehensive when the insurance company was open again.

On Monday, I called and added comprehensive.
On Tuesday, my daughter rear-ended a car and totaled
our Volvo. sigh

Because of that suspicious timing, it took a month to
resolve but finally they called and said they have a
check for me for $6400. 6500 minus the 100 deductible.

I made a profit of $4900 in only 4 days between buying
the car and it being totaled. Also insurance company
(Nationwide) had a "First time forgiveness" policy so
my car insurance price never went up.

[Gary]

Hank Rogers wrote:
> The beat to hell body just gives it more character.

Several years ago, I saw a car in my parking lot and it looked
like someone had beaten it all to hell with a ball-peen
hammer. WTF?

Then someone explained to me that this happens occasionally
in the midwest during a bad hail storm. LARGE hail.

Told that they are totaled and sold cheap. Mechanics are
fine, just a beaten to death body.

[Gary]

I saw the original picture but sadly didn't save it. I saw only
body damage. The wheel looked fine. I even mentioned that when
I posted about it.

[Mike Duffy]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 06:22:16 -0500, Sqwertz wrote:

> Casual nerds will note that this number is exactly 2^12 + a cool $100.

Obsessive nerds will note that this number is exactly 2^12 + $100.17

[Taxed and Spent]

Oh dear, that makes me obsessive, not casual. I'm pretty casual, but
not when it comes to my obsessions.


More relevant is that the number probably matches some kid's orthodontic
bill.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:22:19 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 7/28/2020 6:59 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>

>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage
>(snipped)
>
>What the hell did you pay them $4197 to do?!
>
>Jill

Probably put electric air in the tires.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:47:32 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 7/28/2020 7:31 PM, John Kuthe wrote:

>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:22:27 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 7/28/2020 6:59 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>>>
>>>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage
>>> (snipped)
>>>
>>> What the hell did you pay them $4197 to do?!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>

>> Replace most of the right rear end suspension parts and both aluminum wheels and make it drive nice again. I don't care about the appearance, I care about the function! I buy cars for their function, not their appearance.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
>You were ripped off (yet again). Obviously you don't have sufficient
>insurance coverage otherwise all you'd have had to do was pay the
>deductible, which wouldn't have been anywhere near $4000.
>
>I suspect you have either a very bad driving record or are too simply
>don't know enough to pay for full insurance (Liability & Collision, aka
>Comprehensive). You bought the car used to begin with. I have no idea
>why you think spending $4000 to fix it is a good thing. You can buy a
>2012 Leaf for what you paid to fix that one.
>
>Jill

For that kind of money he could rake up a bushel of leafs.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:42:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

I carry collision on my 1990 Landcruiser, with a $500 deductible that
adds $200 to my ins. premium.

[Sqwertz]

I bet they charged him an extra $.15 for that peppermint swirly
thingy he took from the candy jar at the Nissan dealership.

And Da Lou has a - holy shit - 9.68%!?!?!? retail sales tax. Plus an
extra .25% Town Tax levy for Bel Nor. Which makes a grand total $.17
w/tax!

But I personally would have charged him $99 for that mint, not $.15
but...<shrug>

-sw

[Sqwertz]

On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 19:32:22 -0400, jmcquown wrote:

> Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
> when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
> they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras.

I hate to break it to you, Jill, but your out of date. And maybe you
need to get into more wrecks.

In every major city in the U.S, an average of 60% of the accidents
are hit and run. Unless there's a significant injury or death, the
cops don't give a shit and won't investigate anything even if they
have the license plate number. Here in Austin that number is 82%
hit and then run (not really run, but they just drive off). There is
NO penalty for not stopping unless somebody is hurt AND you can
identify their faces.

Defense attorneys have a boilerplate defense that if the victim
can't positively identify the driver (through their tinted glass)
the ether is NO CASE AT ALL.

The only people who ever get busted, are people that step out of
their cars out of concern so witnesses can see them - then get back
in and burn off. The worst ting you can do is stop - especially if
you're been drinking. Just keep on driving!

-sw

[Sqwertz]

> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so
> royally FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you
> that giving them all your MONEY!

But you would have saved yourself about $3,000 in repairs had you
paid for full insurance. And you'd have your body work done, too.

Yeah, you really stuck to to da man, John! You're so suave!

-sw

[Dave Smith]

Comprehensive insurance is relatively cheap. Collision is more expensive
but there is questionable value when you have an older car. They will
write off older cars with little damage if the cost of repair is more
than what they think the care is worth. It happened to me when my wife
had an accident on my mother's old Buick. The car was about 12 years old
at the time, but low mileage and ran great. There was minor damage to
the left front door and quarter panel and a crack in the bumper molding.
They ended up giving me $2500 and I got to keep the car. Body work was
$2000... didn't bother with the bumper repair.

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:tje2ift5dj9rh4dts...@4ax.com...

====

A utility truck??

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
news:f79a34d0-0c7f-4a0b...@googlegroups.com...

===

scofflaw ??

[Ed Pawlowski]

You should apply for it. Maybe they will give you 50 bucks not to
bother them again.

I had one car that was parked neat the corner where I lived and was hit
during the nigh. I just called a junk yard and they came and took it
away. I paid $15 for that car and now it was a loss.

[jmcquown]

LOL! At that price they'd better have been using a manual bicycle type
pump to account for the cost of labor. ;)

Jill

[Dave Smith]

On 2020-07-29 10:07 a.m., Ed Pawlowski wrote:
> On 7/29/2020 12:53 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:42:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>>> I've had some old clunkers that were not insured but when you have
>>> something worth $10,000 t0 $50,000 it sure pays to have it.  Can often
>>> be had very cheap on the older cars.
>>
>> My car's 36 years old. I only have 3rd party for it.

One of my former coworkers has a side business appraising classic cars.
We was pretty thorough and well respected in the business. He was
dealing with people who had cars anywhere from 20-80 years old. If they
were stolen, crashed or otherwise damaged, they would be worth next to
nothing without that appraisal.

> You should apply for it.  Maybe they will give you 50 bucks not to
> bother them again.

That can work with insurance claims. I once had a number of crappy
trees blow over in a wind storm. I called my insurance company and they
said the trees were not covered but clean-up was. One of them had
ripped up a couple tile from the septic bed. I had to get estimates.
Then the games started. They found reasons it could not be covered....
earth shift.

I called a number of times and argued with him about it. He finally
offered me $750 to shut me up, not in those exact words. A friend of
mine heated his house with wood and he came over and cleaned up the
mess and took all the wood. I replaced the two tiles that had been
displaced and pocketed the $750.

[jmcquown]

He has only a very basic grasp of how these things work. It's no
surprise he went with the state minimum required coverage. I guess he'd
rather pay $4100 out of pocket (without the body work) than pay a few
bucks more for Collision insurance. Kudos!

Jill

[jmcquown]

On 7/28/2020 11:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 7/28/2020 9:13 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>>> Someone else brought up insurance.  Collision insurance would have taken
>>> care of the repair (including any body work).  All you'd have had to do
>>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000.  You
>>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>

>> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
>> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
>> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally
>> FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving
>> them all your MONEY!
>

>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Insurance is probably $300 a yea and you've had the car for about three
> years now.  So for $900 you would have saved $4000.  Actually more as
> they would have fixed the body for another $2500.

He's too focused on the "evils" of insurance. He can't seem to grasp
the fact that by not paying a bit more for Collision insurance it just
cost him a heck of a lot more money. But hey! Down with the evil
insurance companies!

FWIW, I never felt like I've been "fleeced by" an insurance company. I
have full coverage: Liability, Collision, UI, UM, free towing and
rental car coverage for about $400 a year. $500 deductible. When my
car was hit in a parking lot - yes, it was a hit & run, unwitnessed
accident - all I paid out of pocket was $250. My insurance carrier cut
my deductible in half after I submitted an unwitnessed accident form
provided by the Sheriff's department. The insurance company didn't
raise my rates, either.

The only entity he's being "fleeced by" is himself. Oh, and the repair
shop.

Jill

[Janet]

In article <n8csnryb...@sqwertz.com>, sqwe...@gmail.invalid
says...

It was patched up with very expensive copper, by a company that
specialises in repairs to vintage electric cars.

Now John's car will last a hundred years.

Janet UK

[jmcquown]

He's the court jester of RFC. He'd rather pay $4100 out of pocket than
pay a few extra bucks per year for full coverage and only have to pay
the deductible. I thought he was in love with this car yet he couldn't
pay a few bucks more for insurance coverage?

I'm sure the mechanics who worked on it are laughing all the way to the
bank.

Jill

[Janet]

In article <9DfUG.136383$HY4.1...@fx37.iad>, j_mc...@comcast.net
says...

John's car is fitted with ecological planet-saver tyres woven from
kudzu vines by unemployed cannabis nurses.

Janet UK

[jmcquown]

Kudzu! That's a word I haven't heard in a long time. Seems like 'hemp'
would be more fitting in his case. Of course we're just poking a little
fun right now. ;)

Jill

[Cindy Hamilton]

It's just what it sounds like. Someone who scoffs at laws.

Cindy Hamilton

[dsi1]

My daughter totaled our Hyundai too. I was shocked to get a check for $12,500. We only made $2500 on that accident but we got a lot of joy out of the time we spent with it so it was well worth it. Now we drive junkers that's not much fun or joy. That's the brakes.

[Sheldon Martin]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 11:11:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

As soon as the mechanics see he has no insurance they will know that
no one will check on the quality of their work and Kootchie will get a
lousy over priced job. Kootchie is a dumb ass because he grew up a
spoiled bastard who thinks inheritence is earnings. The Kootch never
earned a cent in his life.

[John Kuthe]

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 5:05:02 AM UTC-5, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:32:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
> > On 7/28/2020 7:16 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
> > >>>
> > >>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
> > >>
> > >> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
> > >> footage from a camera on a building.
> > >
> > > What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their appearance!
> > >
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> > >
> > Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
> > when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
> > they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
> > way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
> > said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
> > $4196 for?!
>
> Missouri requires that accidents be reported to the police within 30 days.
> John is a scofflaw in this as he is in so many things.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

I handled it myself, so fuck off!

John Kuthe...

[GM]

You would do well to respect those who know better than you...you should take a lesson from all the advice that has been profferred here...

--
Best
Greg

[Jeßus]

Ahh. Fair enough.

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:15:34 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

>In every major city in the U.S, an average of 60% of the accidents
>are hit and run.

Really?? Hit and runs in Aus are less common, I don't really know the
percentage but I would guess like 5% here.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:57:41 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

Yes. Called a pickup in the rest of the English speaking world, I
guess?

[Bruce]

I think my car is becoming a collector's item. I mean, I've collected
it.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 07:40:22 -0400, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

>Remember my old Volvo story? It was a few years old and I paid
>only $1500 on a Friday. I called up immediately and only got
>liability insurance coverage.
>
>Later that evening I found out it had a book value of $6500.
>So we didn't drive it that weekend until I could add the
>comprehensive when the insurance company was open again.
>
>On Monday, I called and added comprehensive.
>On Tuesday, my daughter rear-ended a car and totaled
>our Volvo. sigh
>
>Because of that suspicious timing, it took a month to
>resolve but finally they called and said they have a
>check for me for $6400. 6500 minus the 100 deductible.
>
>I made a profit of $4900 in only 4 days between buying
>the car and it being totaled. Also insurance company
>(Nationwide) had a "First time forgiveness" policy so
>my car insurance price never went up.

Nice deal and you weren't cheating :)

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:40:58 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

A few bucks? I've never had more than 3rd party insurance and that
suits me just fine. We don't buy expensive cars anyway.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:00:22 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

Lol, what are they doing to your language?

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 11:11:11 -0400, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>On 7/29/2020 6:04 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:32:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>> Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
>>> when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
>>> they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
>>> way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
>>> said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
>>> $4196 for?!
>>
>> Missouri requires that accidents be reported to the police within 30 days.
>> John is a scofflaw in this as he is in so many things.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>He's the court jester of RFC. He'd rather pay $4100 out of pocket than
>pay a few extra bucks per year for full coverage and only have to pay
>the deductible.

And she goes on and on and on... like a dog with a bone.

[Bruce]

Yes, it's such well-intended advice... from the RFC vultures. Yeah,
right.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Thanks for inspiring me to look up the etymology of the word. I laughed.

Cindy Hamilton

[Hank Rogers]

What do you care? They're all nasty assed americans, right Fruce?

[Hank Rogers]

Good thing you never do that Druce.

[Alex]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/28/2020 7:31 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:22:27 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:

>>> On 7/28/2020 6:59 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>>>

>>>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage
>>> (snipped)
>>>
>>> What the hell did you pay them $4197 to do?!
>>>
>>> Jill
>>

>> Replace most of the right rear end suspension parts and both aluminum
>> wheels and make it drive nice again. I don't care about the
>> appearance, I care about the function! I buy cars for their function,
>> not their appearance.
>>
>> John Kuthe...
>>
> You were ripped off (yet again).  Obviously you don't have sufficient
> insurance coverage otherwise all you'd have had to do was pay the
> deductible, which wouldn't have been anywhere near $4000.
>
> I suspect you have either a very bad driving record or are too simply
> don't know enough to pay for full insurance (Liability & Collision,
> aka Comprehensive).  You bought the car used to begin with.  I have no
> idea why you think spending $4000 to fix it is a good thing.  You can
> buy a 2012 Leaf for what you paid to fix that one.
>
> Jill

Comprehensive is not liability or collision coverage.  It covers
everything else - fire, theft, falling tree branches, etc.

[Bruce]

Why is comprehensive called comprehensive if it doesn't include
collision?

[Alex]

John Kuthe wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:20:37 PM UTC-5, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> John Kuthe wrote:

>>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

>>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>>>>

>>>>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>>>> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>>>> footage from a camera on a building.
>>> What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their appearance!
>>>
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>>

>> Speaking of performance, have you raced many other cars lately?
>> I remember you having lots of drag races not too long ago. Just
>> about every day for a while.
> Different performance metric! My Leaf has the license plate "INF-MPG" for a REASON! INFinite MPG! I bought a gallon of gasoline and put in my garage and no matter how far I drive my Nissan Leaf that gallon stays FULL!
>
> How many dollars worth of POISON to you BUY to drag race? HA! :-(
>
> John Kuthe...

I'm sure you won't comment on this:

https://www.industryweek.com/technology-and-iiot/article/22026518/lithium-batteries-dirty-secret-manufacturing-them-leaves-massive-carbon-footprint

Or this:

https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/aug/10/electric-cars-big-battery-waste-problem-lithium-recycling

[Alex]

Je�us wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 16:16:42 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe

> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>>>>
>>>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>>> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>>> footage from a camera on a building.
>> What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident right after being smashed into?

> What sort of vehicle caused that damage like that? The leading edge of
> every car, truck or even bike I can think of wouldn't be anywhere near
> as low as that. I'm not buying your story, John.
>
>

Check out the reflection of his shadow on the driver's door.  That boy
has poor posture.

[Alex]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> On 7/28/2020 9:13 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
>>> Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have taken

>>> care of the repair (including any body work).  All you'd have had to do

>>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000.  You
>>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>>
>>> Jill
>>

>> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
>> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
>> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally
>> FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving
>> them all your MONEY!
>

>> John Kuthe...
>>
>
> Insurance is probably $300 a yea and you've had the car for about
> three years now.  So for $900 you would have saved $4000. Actually
> more as they would have fixed the body for another $2500.

They would have totaled it.  It's not worth $6500.

[John Kuthe]

Comprehensive Insurance covers everything else except collisions, which is a separate insurance and yet another way for Insurance to RIP YOU OFF!

John Kuthe, Climate Anarchist, Suburban Renewalist and Vegetarian

[Bruce]

People who don't give a shit about the environment, the planet or
child labour, suddenly become holier-than-thou when they're looking
for arguments against electric cars :)

[Alex]

Ophelia wrote:
>
>
> "Bruce"  wrote in message
> news:tje2ift5dj9rh4dts...@4ax.com...
>
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:58:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> "Bruce"  wrote in message
>> news:5402if9vlbe0s61bc...@4ax.com...
>>

>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:42:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>

>>> On 7/28/2020 9:31 PM, Bruce wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:13:28 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>>>> Someone else brought up insurance.  Collision insurance would have
>>>>>> taken

>>>>>> care of the repair (including any body work).  All you'd have had
>>>>>> to do

>>>>>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000.  You
>>>>>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
>>>>> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
>>>>> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally
>>>>> FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving
>>>>> them all your MONEY!
>>>>

>>>> Who's going to take out comprehensive car insurance for an old car?
>>>> You guys nuts or summin'?
>>>>
>>>

>>> I've had some old clunkers that were not insured but when you have
>>> something worth $10,000 t0 $50,000 it sure pays to have it. Can often
>>> be had very cheap on the older cars.
>>
>> My car's 36 years old. I only have 3rd party for it.
>>

>> ==
>>
>>  LOL what is is?
>
> A Toyota Hilux. What Australians call a ute.
>
> ====
>
>  A utility truck??
>

An ugly pickup.  Google it.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:04:16 -0400, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

lol, get a life!

[Bruce]

Exactly. Comprehensive isn't comprehensive, because it doesn't include
one of the most common causes of damage. Con artists is what they is!

I wonder if this scam is also allowed in Australia.

[Alex]

jmcquown wrote:
> On 7/28/2020 11:37 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

>> On 7/28/2020 9:13 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>>
>>>> Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have
>>>> taken

>>>> care of the repair (including any body work).  All you'd have had
>>>> to do

>>>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000.  You
>>>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
>>> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
>>> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally
>>> FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving
>>> them all your MONEY!
>>

>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>
>> Insurance is probably $300 a yea and you've had the car for about
>> three years now.  So for $900 you would have saved $4000. Actually
>> more as they would have fixed the body for another $2500.
>

> He's too focused on the "evils" of insurance.  He can't seem to grasp
> the fact that by not paying a bit more for Collision insurance it just
> cost him a heck of a lot more money.  But hey! Down with the evil
> insurance companies!
>
> FWIW, I never felt like I've been "fleeced by" an insurance company. I
> have full coverage:  Liability, Collision, UI, UM, free towing and
> rental car coverage for about $400 a year.  $500 deductible.  When my
> car was hit in a parking lot - yes, it was a hit & run, unwitnessed
> accident - all I paid out of pocket was $250.  My insurance carrier
> cut my deductible in half after I submitted an unwitnessed accident
> form provided by the Sheriff's department.  The insurance company
> didn't raise my rates, either.
>
> The only entity he's being "fleeced by" is himself.  Oh, and the
> repair shop.
>
> Jill

Comprehensive would have covered it.  Collision would not.

[Bruce]

Alex has a beautiful car. And you should see his roof. It's awesome!
Scientists are baffled by how awesome his roof is. It's one of the
best roofs in the world!

This is roughly what my awesome car looks like:
<https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSuTLPz-49Wh9jqfPm5Jp0upL4-rQ0NrLt1lQ&usqp=CAU>

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 19:04:16 -0400, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

I noticed the reflection and especially the sandals :)

[Jeßus]

You keep thinking along the same lines about most everything and are
unaware how you continually sabotage yourself financially.You've
pissed away your inheritance, for the most part. And no, that does not
please me.

Yes, insurance sucks but in some cases it is necessary.

[Bruce]

But it pleases the vultures, like Alex and Jill. Where would they be
without John's adventures?

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 7/29/2020 3:34 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 08:15:34 -0500, Sqwertz <sqwe...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>
>> In every major city in the U.S, an average of 60% of the accidents
>> are hit and run.
>
> Really?? Hit and runs in Aus are less common, I don't really know the
> percentage but I would guess like 5% here.
>
A few cities have a high pedestrian rate but the country-wide is low;
https://lawfirmmemphis.com/top-5-cities-hit-run-accidents-occur/
LA with a population of 4 million is the highest rate
Almost half of all accidents are hit and run, which is far above the
national average of only 11 percent. According to LA Weekly, there are
about 20,000 hit and run accidents each year, and 4,000 of those result
in serious injury or death.

https://aaafoundation.org/hit-and-run-crashes-prevalence-contributing-factors-and-countermeasures/
Statistics here are 11.5%

AU hits the 'roos
Hitting an animal accounts for 5% of all collision types and the most
common animal collision in Australia are those collisions that involve
kangaroos. Kangaroo collisions account for 9 out of 10 road accidents
involving animals.

[Bruce]

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 21:26:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 7/29/2020 3:34 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>
>> Really?? Hit and runs in Aus are less common, I don't really know the
>> percentage but I would guess like 5% here.
>>
>A few cities have a high pedestrian rate but the country-wide is low;
>https://lawfirmmemphis.com/top-5-cities-hit-run-accidents-occur/
>LA with a population of 4 million is the highest rate
> Almost half of all accidents are hit and run, which is far above the
>national average of only 11 percent. According to LA Weekly, there are
>about 20,000 hit and run accidents each year, and 4,000 of those result
>in serious injury or death.
>
>https://aaafoundation.org/hit-and-run-crashes-prevalence-contributing-factors-and-countermeasures/
>Statistics here are 11.5%
>
>AU hits the 'roos
>Hitting an animal accounts for 5% of all collision types and the most
>common animal collision in Australia are those collisions that involve
>kangaroos. Kangaroo collisions account for 9 out of 10 road accidents
>involving animals.

They're everywhere here. If I want to see a kangaroo at any moment
during the day, I won't have to leave our property.

[Ophelia]

"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message

news:af1f8081-831e-4224...@googlegroups.com...

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 10:00:27 AM UTC-4, Ophelia wrote:
> "Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
> news:f79a34d0-0c7f-4a0b...@googlegroups.com...
>

> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:32:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:

> > On 7/28/2020 7:16 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

> > >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
> > >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
> > >>>

> > >>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY
> > >>> OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
> > >>
> > >> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
> > >> footage from a camera on a building.
> > >
> > > What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident
> > > right

> > > after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline
> > > buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for
> > > their
> > > appearance!
> > >
> > >
> > > John Kuthe...
> > >

> > Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
> > when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
> > they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
> > way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
> > said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
> > $4196 for?!
>
> Missouri requires that accidents be reported to the police within 30 days.
> John is a scofflaw in this as he is in so many things.
>
> Cindy Hamilton
>

> ===
>
> scofflaw ??

It's just what it sounds like. Someone who scoffs at laws.

Cindy Hamilton

====

LOL ok thanks:))

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:kkk3iflpfpmebdu5j...@4ax.com...

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:57:41 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>
>
>"Bruce" wrote in message
>news:tje2ift5dj9rh4dts...@4ax.com...
>
>On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 09:58:01 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>"Bruce" wrote in message
>>news:5402if9vlbe0s61bc...@4ax.com...
>>

>>On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:42:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>>On 7/28/2020 9:31 PM, Bruce wrote:

>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 18:13:28 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>>>> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:32:28 PM UTC-5, jmcquown wrote:
>
>>>>>> Someone else brought up insurance. Collision insurance would have
>>>>>> taken

>>>>>> care of the repair (including any body work). All you'd have had to
>>>>>> do

>>>>>> was pay the deductible, which wouldn't be anywhere near $4000. You
>>>>>> really like throwing money away, don't you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jill
>>>>>
>>>>> I PAID for the damage done to my car because I chose NOT to carry
>>>>> collision insurance! I only have minimally required car liability
>>>>> insurance as required by MO LAW! YOU are the ones getting so royally
>>>>> FLEECED by insurance corporations who have convinced you that giving
>>>>> them all your MONEY!
>>>>
>>>> Who's going to take out comprehensive car insurance for an old car?
>>>> You guys nuts or summin'?
>>>>
>>>
>>>I've had some old clunkers that were not insured but when you have
>>>something worth $10,000 t0 $50,000 it sure pays to have it. Can often
>>>be had very cheap on the older cars.
>>
>>My car's 36 years old. I only have 3rd party for it.
>>
>>==
>>
>> LOL what is is?
>
>A Toyota Hilux. What Australians call a ute.
>
>====
>
> A utility truck??

Yes. Called a pickup in the rest of the English speaking world, I
guess?

====

Thanks, that sounds right:))

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:9mk3if9bi4i1gav8v...@4ax.com...

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 10:07:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:

>On 7/29/2020 12:53 AM, Bruce wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 23:42:28 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I've had some old clunkers that were not insured but when you have
>>> something worth $10,000 t0 $50,000 it sure pays to have it. Can often
>>> be had very cheap on the older cars.
>>
>> My car's 36 years old. I only have 3rd party for it.
>>

>You should apply for it. Maybe they will give you 50 bucks not to
>bother them again.
>
>I had one car that was parked neat the corner where I lived and was hit
>during the nigh. I just called a junk yard and they came and took it
>away. I paid $15 for that car and now it was a loss.

I think my car is becoming a collector's item. I mean, I've collected
it.

====

We are not allowed to drive any car with no insurance. I sounds as
though you are allowed to do that in US and Au?

[Ophelia]

"Bruce" wrote in message news:h2l3if5ujsjnhp4ro...@4ax.com...

On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 15:00:22 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>

wrote:

>
>
>"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
>news:f79a34d0-0c7f-4a0b...@googlegroups.com...
>
>On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 7:32:28 PM UTC-4, jmcquown wrote:

>> On 7/28/2020 7:16 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 6:09:00 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:

>> >> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 15:59:47 -0700 (PDT), John Kuthe
>> >> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> https://i.postimg.cc/FRT9tJF0/Leaf-damaged.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> $4196.17 in mechanical damage, but I paid that off easily to NOT BUY
>> >>> OR BURN much Gasoline anymore! :-) Yay!
>> >>
>> >> Bloody hell. I can't believe nobody produced dashcam footage or
>> >> footage from a camera on a building.
>> >
>> > What, am I supposed to organize a SWAT team investigative incident
>> > right
>> > after being smashed into? NO! I'm just happy to get my zero gasoline
>> > buying/burning CAR BACK! I buy cars for their performance NOT for their
>> > appearance!
>> >
>> >
>> > John Kuthe...
>> >
>> Oh good lord. If someone crashed into your car and you called the cops
>> when it happened, they'd have investigated. If there were witnesses,
>> they'd have asked questions. They'd have checked traffic cameras. Even
>> way out here in the sticks where I live there are traffic cameras. You
>> said they found a piece of a white car that hit yours. What did you pay
>> $4196 for?!
>
>Missouri requires that accidents be reported to the police within 30 days.
>John is a scofflaw in this as he is in so many things.
>
>Cindy Hamilton
>
>===
>
> scofflaw ??

Lol, what are they doing to your language?

===

I don't think they use ours any more:))

[Bruce]

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 09:38:25 +0100, "Ophelia" <oph...@elsinore.me.uk>
wrote:

In Au third party insurance is compulsory.