Expired "Fiber One" bars ( Aug 21, 2010) and "Odwalla" original Super protein bars (Dec 25, 2010)
Manda Ruby
(expired on Aug 21, 2010) and 31"Odwalla" original Super protein bars
(expired on Dec 25, 2010).
Odwalla bars probably are safe for another 3-4 months but how soon
should I finishing consuming the Fiber One bars? Or should I throw
away the Fiber One bars? I know for a fact that if I give away on
Craigslist, no one would tale them.
Thanks for any suggestion.
Mr. Bill
<manda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks for any suggestion.
But a homeless shelter might.
Join me....a little fun, some ramblings and good recipes
Tracy
On 1/21/2011 11:19 AM, Mr. Bill wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 07:41:22 -0800 (PST), Manda Ruby
> <manda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for any suggestion.
>
> But a homeless shelter might.
>
>
What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired
food? You think they don't care what kind of food they serve?
Expired food should be tossed.
Tracy
Mr. Bill
>What makes you think a homeless shelter would want/take expired
>food? You think they don't care what kind of food they serve?
Homeless don't consider dumpster diving un do able.
Julie Bove
"Tracy" <kara...@bc.edu> wrote in message
news:ihcolj$qir$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Agreed! I had a friend who worked at a soup kitchen in Seattle. This was
in the days when expiration dates were not required. But he said he knew
some of the food was stale because he tasted it. He said bakeries would
often drop off really old seasonal stuff. Like Valentines cookies months
after Valentines day. He said he hated having to serve them the bad tasting
stuff.
Mr. Bill
wrote:
>There is a huge difference between "USE by", and "best by"...
Exactly...wrap a dollar bill around one and give one to the homeless
person at the end of the exit ramp tonight. Bet they will take it.
I doubt with all sincerity, they are going to look at the wrapper
date.
Tracy
> In article<ihcolj$qir$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>
Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
food I won't eat, but you can have it".
Tracy
Tracy
Dumpster diving is very different from donating obviously expired food
to a shelter.
Tracy
Mr. Bill
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
Processed and "packaged" food might endure Hiroshima....<vbg>
..but your mileage may vary...
Mr. Bill
wrote:
>>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>
>Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
>food I won't eat, but you can have it".
Good GRAVY...these didn't expire in 1956....the date was 12/25/10!!
Get a grip, girlie..... You most likely have bought make up older
than that!
Tracy
homeless people.
Tracy
George Shirley
> In article<ihcolj$qir$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Tracy<kara...@bc.edu> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tracy
>
> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>
Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
am I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
could convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!
George Shirley
Brooklyn1
wrote:
Why? They're homeless and hungry, it's not like they're used to
eating a ritzy dinner each evening. Besides, most of them choose to
be homeless... I'd feed them at least as good as I feed the wild
critters; expired bread and scraps. I used to buy all kinds of baked
goods at the Entennman's outlet, half price for expired returns,
perfectly good. The expired bread I buy at Walmart for half price to
feed the deer is still good, I occasionally eat some. Insulting to
feed poor people the same food I'd eat, yer nutz. Where do yoose
think homeless shelters and soup kitchens obtain most of their food;
it's expired food donated from stupidmarkets, restaurants, company
cafeterias, etc... if they had to rely only on what private citizens
donate they'd all starve to death. This morning I bought a half gallon
container of Tropicana Ruby Red grapefruit juice at half price,
perfectly good. There are plenty of people here who regularly boast
about buying "used" meat.
Tracy
There is a difference between expired food I'd eat and expired food I
wouldn't eat.
I don't mean to not throw away perfectly good food just because of the
sell by date or use by date. What I am trying to say is it is wrong to
try to give away or donate food you _would not eat_ to a homeless
shelter. It's fake altruism. If you want to donate to a shelter, at
least give them something fresh. It's that simple.
Tracy
Boron Elgar
I just found a jar of something that had sneaked its way to the back
of my highest kitchen shelf and taken up residence. It was shrimp
paste. Had a use by date of early 2006. That is gone now.
Usually, I am lenient with my expired foodstuffs, but something about
this screamed "toss me, please," and I obliged.
Boron
Cheryl
> I don't mean to not throw away perfectly good food just because of the
> sell by date or use by date. What I am trying to say is it is wrong to
> try to give away or donate food you _would not eat_ to a homeless
> shelter. It's fake altruism. If you want to donate to a shelter, at
> least give them something fresh. It's that simple.
But while AmandaF wouldn't eat something that "expired" Dec 2010, I
would eat it. If she doesn't want to eat it, others probably would.
Brooklyn1
wrote:
Most donated food is what folks decided not to eat for various
reasons, expired the least of them. And there's no fake altruism,
food folks bought a few of and didn't like would you rather they
tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
themselves wouldn't eat... a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens, they
get tired of cold canned beans, they'd much rather raid the trash cans
around fast food joints. In NYC the church soup kitchens serve the
left overs from corporate cafeterias, better quality food than many
serve their family at home... when obama takes away the tax incentive
the homeless will go hungry.
George Shirley
Anything with seafood in it that is that old I would toss too. When an
elderly relative died many years ago I helped my cousin clean out his
Mom's pantry. Had home canned stuff in there that had to be from the
early forties maybe earlier. The lids had rusted off, some jars had
bubbled over. I guess my auld auntie just couldn't see or smell that
well anymore. I did salvage the jars though.
Brooklyn1
>
>Anything with seafood in it that is that old I would toss too. When an
>elderly relative died many years ago I helped my cousin clean out his
>Mom's pantry. Had home canned stuff in there that had to be from the
>early forties maybe earlier. The lids had rusted off, some jars had
>bubbled over. I guess my auld auntie just couldn't see or smell that
>well anymore. I did salvage the jars though.
That it was from 1940s with rust and was leaky and smelly had nothing
to do with seafood... my ex would qualify. LOL
Julie Bove
"Tracy" <tracy....@bc.edu> wrote in message
news:ihd5ca$n6p$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
Agreed. That being said, I do toss most expired food. It all depends on
what it is and how long past the expiration date of course.
Julie Bove
"Melba's Jammin'" <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:barbschaller-C344...@news.iphouse.com...
> In article <lrckj6l14jarlcafb...@4ax.com>,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
>> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
>> themselves wouldn't eat...
>
> I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
> toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
> bag).
>
>> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
>> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,
>
> shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
> shelves became part of the discussion.
>
> The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
> support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
> Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
> Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
> out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
> <shrug>
There was talk on the radio here some years back about how many truly needy
people not only do not have a stove or microwave to cook or heat anything on
but often do not have any dishes to serve the food on. For that reason it
was suggested that we donate things like canned pasta that could be eaten as
is.
I do not necessarily do that, but this is the type of food my daughter picks
because she thinks kids would like it. If I donate macaroni and cheese, I
make sure to get the kind that doesn't require any milk, butter or margarine
because I know they don't necessarily have that in the house.
I do donate pouches or cans of chicken and also pouches of precooked,
flavored or plain rice. Yes, I know it is much cheaper to donate raw rice.
And if it is specifically asked for, I will. But I do know there will be
some who do not have a pot to cook it in or a stove to cook it on.
Julie Bove
"George Shirley" <gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
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We once had a food drive for the needy at work. This was many years ago and
pull dates were somewhat of a new thing. Most foods did not have them and
they certainly were not required.
My friend's dad had died a few years prior and she finally got around to
cleaning out his kitchen. She donated much of what she found in there which
for some reason was mainly cake mixes. There were a few odd flavors that I
remembered from my childhood. I do not think they were still being made at
the time. The boxes were all faded and covered in dust.
I was pretty angry about it but another coworker was even more angry so she
picked out the obviously ancient things and tossed them in the trash.
My friend then noticed that her things were missing from the box. She
actually thought someone had stolen them to eat for themselves!
The person who threw them out then told her that one of the other employees
had taken some of the food to be put in the baskets but they only had enough
room in the vehicles to deliver so many things that day. The rest would be
delivered the following day. We had made up baskets using large laundry
baskets and there were also paper goods, cleaning supplies, toiletries and
other things.
My friend seemed happy then and seemed to have bought that excuse for her
missing things.
I do sometimes donate things from my cupboard. Sometimes I buy things
thinking we will like them and we don't. Sometimes I just lose my head
temporarily and buy a lot of something like canned beets, thinking I will
eat them every day. And then I don't. Or sometimes I just need a can or
two of something for a school event or some child comes to the door
collecting. But mostly I buy new food to donate.
jmcquown
When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who else
does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
Jill
Nancy Young
> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the
> pantry to the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting
> method. Who else does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
Anything I stock up on, the new goes behind the old. I'm not
rabid about it or anything, but it makes sense to use up what
is older first. I rotate a lot of stuff, not just food. From towels
to underwear, the freshly laundered goes on the bottom. Occasionally
I rotate the dishes and drinkware if it's been a while since they were
used.
Of course, when I clean out the freezer once in a while, or the
pantry cabinet, there's always a surprise item or two that managed
to hide.
nancy
Brooklyn1
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <ihd5ca$n6p$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Tracy <tracy....@bc.edu> wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
>> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>
>> Tracy
>
>I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support, Best
>By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries are
>received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the needy. (I
>wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets distributed
>among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but it would not
>surprise me.)
Of course the volunteer workers get to pick through first... that's
the main reason why they volunteer.
Brooklyn1
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <lrckj6l14jarlcafb...@4ax.com>,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>> tossed the rest in the trash. Most of what private citizens donate
>> won't make a very tasty/nutritious meal anyway, it's mostly items they
>> themselves wouldn't eat...
>
>Speak for yourself.
>I try to buy what is requested, whether it's canned meat, dry pasta,
>toilet paper, or peanut butter (staples that are part of the standard
>bag).
>
>> a lot of homeless prefer to dumpster
>> dive... for one thing the homeless typically don't have kitchens,
>
>Ohfer!! She didn't suggest that they have kitchens; she referred to
>shelters for the homeless. Somewhere in there the subject of food
>shelves became part of the discussion.
>
>The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
>support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
>Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
>Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
>out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
><shrug>
And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
and serve the food.
Steve Pope
>And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
>volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
>you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
>because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
>their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
>scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
>food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
>etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
>wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
>and serve the food.
I agree.
In our area OneBrick lists the opportunities to go in an assemble
the box lunches and similar meals, generally a 6 hour stint
at a church or community center. These volunteer slots are
always oversubscribed. Actual cooks doing cooking
are either paid, or are more carefully selected volunteers.
But there may be geographical areas where the industry food donations
are low enough (for whatever reason) that they do need donations
from consumers. This situation can also arise temoporarily if there
is an incident like a storm or earthquake.
Steve
Manda Ruby
Do you mean that you don't have common sense that I can't possibly eat
all these food in a very short period (like a week) and hence
contemplated about giving it away (to those who can choose not to
accept or accept? Even if nutritional value is not the same, the fiber
is still there.
Dan Abel
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
> George Shirley" <gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
> news:4d3a28b3$0$21296$8826...@blocknews.net...
> > Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I am
> > I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I could
> > convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!
> ******************************************************************************
> ********
> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
> the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who else
> does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
Jill, you need to brush up on your accounting and inventory control
terms! FIFO (first in, first out) is what you are doing. LIFO is the
lazy way, where you just stick the new stuff in the front.
I used to belong to a coop. We took a tour of the Berkeley coop (now
long gone), which was a pioneer in some ways. They invented can
dispensers where the stocker loaded the new cans from the back, and they
rolled forward. The customer grabbed the cans from the front. I've
noticed that milk cases now very often have doors in the front and back.
The stockers load the milk from the back, and customers take from the
front. Sometimes the gallons are on an incline so they automatically
slide to the front.
--
Dan Abel
Petaluma, California USA
da...@sonic.net
Brooklyn1
>Brooklyn1 wrote:
>
>>And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
>>volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
>>you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
>>because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
>>their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
>>scam. The legitimate operations that feed the homeless receive their
>>food directly from grocery stores, restaurants, company cafeterias,
>>etc... Walmart donates more than all the rest combined. If you truly
>>wanted to do a good deed you'd volunteer at a soup kitchen to prepare
>>and serve the food.
>
>I agree.
>
>In our area OneBrick lists the opportunities to go in an assemble
>the box lunches and similar meals, generally a 6 hour stint
>at a church or community center. These volunteer slots are
>always oversubscribed. Actual cooks doing cooking
>are either paid, or are more carefully selected volunteers.
That's pretty much how Meals On Wheels operates... I used to volunteer
as a driver rather than prepare the food... the ingredients arrived by
the truck load primarily from local food markets. Dunkin Donuts
donated whatever wasn't sold at close of day, I know because that was
my first stop of the day... Entennman's Bakery delivered their
donation early each morning. Many food companys donate, they receive
the tax deduction... McD's is a huge donator. They really didn't want
donations from private citizens (other than money).
>But there may be geographical areas where the industry food donations
>are low enough (for whatever reason) that they do need donations
>from consumers.
That does occur but would be pretty rare in the US... there are
stupidmarkets, fast food joints, etc. everywhere.
>This situation can also arise temoporarily if there
>is an incident like a storm or earthquake.
During emergencies military style kitchens are set up, that's what the
Red Cross does. The thing is they don't want the oddball foods that
private citizens would donate, they'd not be prepared (or even
transported to location) so they'd just go to waste.
If one happens to know a poor family living nearby the best thing to
do would be to bring them a shopping basket of basic groceries
directly... donating to local food banks the best items are skimmed...
and that's exactly how thrift shops operate as well, when someone dies
and the Salvation Army truck arrives to pick up the contents of their
home the good stuff never gets to the thrift shop.
I donate to a local animal shelter. About once a month I drop off a
car load of dried pet food, never cash.
Steve Pope
Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>I donate to a local animal shelter. About once a month I drop off a
>car load of dried pet food, never cash.
We end up giving cat food to rescue operations, because our
cats tend to shift between different types of food either
because their food prescription changes, or their preferences
change. So there is usually excess cat food... but it never
goes to waste.
S.
Brooklyn1
>In article <8q0298...@mid.individual.net>,
> "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> George Shirley" <gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:4d3a28b3$0$21296$8826...@blocknews.net...
>
>> > Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I am
>> > I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I could
>> > convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!
>> ******************************************************************************
>> ********
>> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
>> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
>> the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who else
>> does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
>
>Jill, you need to brush up on your accounting and inventory control
>terms! FIFO (first in, first out) is what you are doing. LIFO is the
>lazy way, where you just stick the new stuff in the front.
>
>I used to belong to a coop.
Jill doesn't have that quantity of food.
>We took a tour of the Berkeley coop (now
>long gone), which was a pioneer in some ways. They invented can
>dispensers where the stocker loaded the new cans from the back, and they
>rolled forward. The customer grabbed the cans from the front. I've
>noticed that milk cases now very often have doors in the front and back.
>The stockers load the milk from the back, and customers take from the
>front. Sometimes the gallons are on an incline so they automatically
>slide to the front.
Haha, I reach way to the back. With all perishables especially I
check for the freshest date. With those gravity feed dispensors I'll
pull out like a half dozen containers if need be to find the fresher
date and then push all the old ones back in... that ain't cheating,
that's using my noodle. Actually when the store puts items just about
to expire in front it's they who are cheating.
Ross@home
<manda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I have about 20 Expired "Fiber One" oatmeal and strawberry bars
>(expired on Aug 21, 2010) and 31"Odwalla" original Super protein bars
>(expired on Dec 25, 2010).
>
>Odwalla bars probably are safe for another 3-4 months but how soon
>should I finishing consuming the Fiber One bars? Or should I throw
>away the Fiber One bars? I know for a fact that if I give away on
>Craigslist, no one would tale them.
>
>Thanks for any suggestion.
>
One only has to start reading the Subject line, to *know* who the
poster will turn out to be.
Eat all the Fiber One bars at one sitting, they may help with your
condition.
Ross.
blake murphy
> On 1/21/2011 6:09 PM, Melba's Jammin' wrote:
>> In article<ihcolj$qir$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> Tracy<kara...@bc.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Expired food should be tossed.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>
>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>
> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some expired
> food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>
> Tracy
you might call them and ask what their policy is. but you're right, it
does seem kinda bush league.
your pal,
blake
blake murphy
> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 22:27:16 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>The "standard" bag of groceries that is provided at the food shelf I
>>support is comprised of items suggested by the Second Harvest Heartland
>>Food Bank. I'm not especially impressed by its contents (it was the
>>Jell-O and canned pasta meals that I wondered about) but it was pointed
>>out that these items are meant to *supplement* a user's food supply.
>><shrug>
>
> And in your very last post you said that you'd not be surprised if the
> volunteer workers skimmed off all the good stuff (and they do). If
> you are going out to shop special for food banks you're a big fool,
> because you are feeding your neighbors who can well afford to buy
> their own. Collecting for food banks from private citizens is a big
> scam.
not everyone is a chiseling scumbag like you, sheldon.
blake
blake murphy
that's the reason a cheap chiseler like *you* would volunteer. most
people are a little more honest.
blake
blake murphy
> On 1/21/2011 5:41 PM, Mr. Bill wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 17:09:31 -0600, Melba's Jammin'
>> <barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I rarely toss expired food unless it has obviously spoiled. Often that
>>> date is a Best By date; even a Use By date I've missed doesn't
>>> automatically get tossed out. Where's common sense?
>>
>> Processed and "packaged" food might endure Hiroshima....<vbg>
>>
>> ..but your mileage may vary...
>>
>>
> At least the radioactive roaches will have something to eat.
assume a can opener...
your pal,
blake
jmcquown
"Dan Abel" <da...@sonic.net> wrote in message
news:dabel-A1361D....@c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article <8q0298...@mid.individual.net>,
> "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> George Shirley" <gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:4d3a28b3$0$21296$8826...@blocknews.net...
>
>> > Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I
>> > am
>> > I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I
>> > could
>> > convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!
>> ******************************************************************************
>> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
>> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
>> the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who
>> else
>> does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
>
> Jill, you need to brush up on your accounting and inventory control
> terms! FIFO (first in, first out) is what you are doing. LIFO is the
> lazy way, where you just stick the new stuff in the front.
>
Apparently I wasn't clear but I do FIFO. I put the old stuff in the front
and use it first. The same holds for frozen as well as canned foods.
Jill
dejablues
You had the lack of common sense to aquire more food than you could eat.
dejablues
> In article <ihd5ca$n6p$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Tracy <tracy....@bc.edu> wrote:
>> Sorry, I didn't mean to not use common sense with regard to tossing
>> expired food. However, I don't think it is appropriate to donate
>> obviously expired food to homeless shelters. "Hey, here's some
>> expired food I won't eat, but you can have it".
>>
>> Tracy
>
> I absolutely agree with that, Tracy. At the food shelf I support,
> Best By or Use By or Expiration dates are checked when the groceries
> are received. Past dated stuff does not get distributed to the
> needy. (I wouldn't be the least bit surprised, though, if it gets
> distributed among the volunteer workers. I don't know if it does but
> it would not surprise me.)
From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual food
drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.
L G
L G
nice try. It's OK, Jill, Red Lobster only teaches you what you need to
know to properly take customer's orders.
Brooklyn1
What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat. No one could
possibly tell that a bottle of ketchup was past it's "best used by"
date... even Stan couln't say. I have eaten canned beets way past
their best-used-by date, perfectly wholesome. I don't think anyone is
donating a raw cod fish caught last week and kept in the trunk of
their car in 90º weather... big difference from a can of Bumble Bee
tuna past its best-used-by date. This morning I opened a can of
Carnation Evap, on the bottom of the can it says "Best Used By
07/17/2011". Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. . . I'll bet it would
still be good by 07/17/2111. Fuckin' idiots!
Folks are getting carried away with this use-by nonsense... won't be
long they'll print best used by on a box of salt, like salt is gonna
spoil, it's only been here since this planet was created.
dejablues
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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Food banks are not allowed to give out expired foods. If you would not eat
it, do not donate it.
Julie Bove
"dejablues" <deja...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I can imagine!
Julie Bove
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
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I have eaten "best by" things that were past their date. Some seemed to
taste fine. Others, like chips, did not. I just ate sourdough bread that
expired on the 18th. It wasn't moldy but was a bit dried out. Would have
been fine for toast or a grilled cheese sandwich. But it was kind of
crumbly for my turkey sandwich.
I have bought the kind of cheese that was cut from a big wheel. It tends to
go moldy if much past the "sell by" date. I used to buy a flaxseed bread
that I could never eat all of before it expired. It was always moldy by the
"sell by" date and often moldy three days before! I quit buying it.
Would I take expired food if someone gave it to me because it was free?
Nope. But I have seen people who would. Example, some kind of potato chips
at my daughter's dance studio. They could not sell them because they were
expired but employees there were eating them and they were also offered to
me.
When I did eat the expired chips, I didn't realize they were expired until I
tasted them. They were not very crisp and had a dull flavor.
Cheryl
> I have eaten "best by" things that were past their date. Some seemed to
> taste fine. Others, like chips, did not. I just ate sourdough bread that
> expired on the 18th. It wasn't moldy but was a bit dried out. Would have
> been fine for toast or a grilled cheese sandwich. But it was kind of
> crumbly for my turkey sandwich.
>
> I have bought the kind of cheese that was cut from a big wheel. It tends to
> go moldy if much past the "sell by" date. I used to buy a flaxseed bread
> that I could never eat all of before it expired. It was always moldy by the
> "sell by" date and often moldy three days before! I quit buying it.
>
> Would I take expired food if someone gave it to me because it was free?
> Nope. But I have seen people who would. Example, some kind of potato chips
> at my daughter's dance studio. They could not sell them because they were
> expired but employees there were eating them and they were also offered to
> me.
>
> When I did eat the expired chips, I didn't realize they were expired until I
> tasted them. They were not very crisp and had a dull flavor.
Bread is completely different. I don't think bread left out even in a
bread box storing system is good for keeping it more than a day. I
freeze bread as soon as I get it home and thaw as needed.
Cheese also is a food I don't leave for long. I vacuum seal portions
and cut them open to use, then seal again.
The only foods I'm referring to that are past their "best by" date are
canned foods, or prepared foods. I admit to using Hamburger Helper on
occasion, and I made one up from a box that was "expired" and in that
case, it wasn't consumable. It was horrible.
Julie Bove
"Cheryl" <jlhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Bread is completely different. I don't think bread left out even in a
> bread box storing system is good for keeping it more than a day. I freeze
> bread as soon as I get it home and thaw as needed.
I can't stand bread after it has been frozen. It's okay for toast but I
don't like it otherwise. We ate so little bread when I was a kid that any
we did have, went into the freezer.
The bread I buy now (for myself) keeps for nearly a week. Of course I have
to time it right and buy it when it's really fresh. Sometimes I come close
to eating the whole loaf. If husband is home then it's not a problem.
Would be nice if I could buy half a loaf somewhere.
>
> Cheese also is a food I don't leave for long. I vacuum seal portions and
> cut them open to use, then seal again.
Cheese usually doesn't last for long in this house. I do have problems
sometimes with shredded cheese that I buy for my husband. He tends not to
notice the partial bag and will open a new one. Then one day I will pull
out the cheese to use it and it is moldy.
>
> The only foods I'm referring to that are past their "best by" date are
> canned foods, or prepared foods. I admit to using Hamburger Helper on
> occasion, and I made one up from a box that was "expired" and in that
> case, it wasn't consumable. It was horrible.
I just found some meat in the freezer that expired in 2006! I didn't even
think I had that freezer that long ago. I tossed those and also some Kettle
Cuisine, gluten free chicken and noodle soup. The soup itself is just okay
but the chicken is rubbery. I bought a bunch of it when I found it because
I had been told it was good. Nope.
Sal Monella
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Brooklyn1
I eat foods past their "best-by"/"sell-by" date all the time. I have
a freezer full of meats (and other foods-baked goods) that are all
past their sell-by date, most by several months. I have foods in my
freezer I cooked more than a year ago, no use-by dates. I freeze
fresh veggies from my garden, not cooked at all, not even blanched,
just used a bag of green beans was harvested in 2008, as good as any
Birdeye just bought. I buy many canned/jarred goods by the case, most
get eaten after their best-by date... if the safety seal on a jar is
not popped it's perfectly wholesome regardless the use-by date.
Nothing prevents food banks from dispensing items past their use-by
date other than that they are fuckin' idiots, don't possess an ounce
of common sense... no one ever got sick from eating pasta past its
best-used-by date, whether eaten raw or boiled to death. I must have
fifty pounds of variously shaped pasta in my pantry, most well past
their best-used-by date... I eat them all the time without ever
considering those dates... there's only one kind of date I examine
carefully before eating, and I don't care how long past their best-by
date... I bet you're well past your prime but still have a few more
good miles left... how'd you like it if you were told you're no longer
allowed? LOL
blake murphy
> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 08:34:38 -0800, Dan Abel <da...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <8q0298...@mid.individual.net>,
>> "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> George Shirley" <gmsh...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message
>>> news:4d3a28b3$0$21296$8826...@blocknews.net...
>>
>>> > Obviously not around here, I do the same thing. Being the nit picker I am
>>> > I rotate food to the front of the shelf every time I shop. Now, if I could
>>> > convince my loverly wife to do the same. Hah!
>>> ******************************************************************************
>>> ********
>>> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
>>> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
>>> the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who else
>>> does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
>>
>>Jill, you need to brush up on your accounting and inventory control
>>terms! FIFO (first in, first out) is what you are doing. LIFO is the
>>lazy way, where you just stick the new stuff in the front.
>>
>>I used to belong to a coop.
>
> Jill doesn't have that quantity of food.
>
>>We took a tour of the Berkeley coop (now
>>long gone), which was a pioneer in some ways. They invented can
>>dispensers where the stocker loaded the new cans from the back, and they
>>rolled forward. The customer grabbed the cans from the front. I've
>>noticed that milk cases now very often have doors in the front and back.
>>The stockers load the milk from the back, and customers take from the
>>front. Sometimes the gallons are on an incline so they automatically
>>slide to the front.
>
> Haha, I reach way to the back. With all perishables especially I
> check for the freshest date. With those gravity feed dispensors I'll
> pull out like a half dozen containers if need be to find the fresher
> date and then push all the old ones back in... that ain't cheating,
> that's using my noodle. Actually when the store puts items just about
> to expire in front it's they who are cheating.
yes, sheldon, everyone in the world is a cheater except for you.
blake
Brooklyn1
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <642nj6hj96tstgjmu...@4ax.com>,
> Brooklyn1 <Gravesend1> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 18:21:23 -0500, "dejablues"
>> <deja...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> >From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual food
>> >drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
>> >all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.
>>
>> What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
>> food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
>> exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat.
>
>I agree, Sheldon, but Somebody's Rules is Somebody's Rules. I wouldn't
>be the least bit surprised if Somebody Ruled out food with a past expiry
>out of fear of a possible lawsuit.
Far more likely the rule makers want the freshest possible when they
fill their own pantry. Humans are greedy and dishonest... the only
charity I donate to is food for animals, and not cash, only food...
animals only take what they need, they have no pockets, and they never
lie. Where I live there's a network of private citizens who live on
agri land so they have the space to take in all sorts of rescue
animals. The local vets donate their services gratis, so mostly all
that's needed is food, litter, bedding, bowls, troughs, and tack for
horses. Many of the local women who knit/crochet/quilt supply little
blankies/toys for cats and dogs. The network moves animals from one
property to another depending on resources needed. The main thrust is
to make the animals healthy and find them suitable homes. I would
never donate to so-called poor folk, let the lazy S O Bs get J O Bs.
And there are plenty of grubbermint agencies that care for them with
taxpayer's money anyway. When I donate a hundred pounds of generic
cat chow it all gets fed to homeless cats, none finds its way to some
administrator's pantry like the items you donate. If some bowry wino
begged me for money to eat I'd offer to buy him a ham sandwich but I'd
never give him money, he'd use it to buy cheap muscatel. Where I
lived previously there were quite a few homeless people who lived out
of stupidmarket shopping carts, a few actually had pets (cats & dogs).
They took very good care of their animals. One old crone in
particular walked by my house every morning with her two cats in her
cart and stopped to help herself to the two cans of cat food I'd leave
in my mailbox.
Brooklyn1
<barbsc...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>In article <ihgc89$7g5$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>Categorically? Why not?
>
>
>> When I did eat the expired chips, I didn't realize they were expired until I
>> tasted them. They were not very crisp and had a dull flavor.
>
>Sometimes a couple minutes in a hot oven will crisp them up.
I bet those chips in the basket at the local watering hole everyone is
pawing at with unwashed hands taste just fine to Julie while she's
chugging pints.
Tater chips nowadays are so controlled by the transfats and salt
freaks that even fresh made they taste woofy.
I really gotta laugh at that holier than thou Obama chick with her
health kick, with her blimpo bubble butt and her tobacco adddicted
malnourished spouse she needs to STFU, she's an embarrassment to
intelligence.
Charlotte L. Blackmer
>> <deja...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> >From my experience in a few years of working with the Boy Scouts annual food
>> >drive, you'd be amazed at the amount of expired food that gets donated. It
>> >all gets tossed. What a waste of food, labor, and time.
>>
>> What I'm amazed at is how ignorant they are to toss perfectly good
>> food that folks would be happy to receive. Best-used-by dates mean
>> exactly that, doesn't mean expired/unfit to eat.
>
>be the least bit surprised if Somebody Ruled out food with a past expiry
>out of fear of a possible lawsuit.
It's also much easier to process with limited volunteer labor, which very
well might be a different crew every time. I don't have to consult a
list ("expired Y: ok for 3 months; expired Y: ok for 1 month; expired
Z: toss") to pack the box when I find X, Y, Z.
At my food bank, broken packages and various types of expired food go into
a special dumpster that a farmer picks up for his livestock.
Charlotte
--
Julie Bove
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
> I bet those chips in the basket at the local watering hole everyone is
> pawing at with unwashed hands taste just fine to Julie while she's
> chugging pints.
I don't go to the local watering hole or chug pints. Many years ago when I
did go to bars, I saw pretzels being served in PA. Popcorn in a few other
states. But never anything here. Here they have menus and you order
something if you want to eat. I do not normally even eat potato chips. I
just wanted a bite of something salty, found the bag and put my hand in.
>
> Tater chips nowadays are so controlled by the transfats and salt
> freaks that even fresh made they taste woofy.
There was a place here in Albertsons that made chips daily. So you'd think
they'd be fresh, as in just made that day. Nope! I didn't think they
tasted very good at all. And since the remodel, I think they are done.
>
> I really gotta laugh at that holier than thou Obama chick with her
> health kick, with her blimpo bubble butt and her tobacco adddicted
> malnourished spouse she needs to STFU, she's an embarrassment to
> intelligence.
No comment on that.
Julie Bove
"Brooklyn1" <Gravesend1> wrote in message
Why in the world would you have so much pasta? I thought I had a lot but
certainly not that much. I don't even think I have 20 pounds! And the only
reason I have a lot is that I buy the gluten free kind. I can't always find
the shapes I want in the store so I mail order them. Because postage is
high, I mail order a lot.
Cheryl
> At my food bank, broken packages and various types of expired food go into
> a special dumpster that a farmer picks up for his livestock.
That's much better than tossing it. Is that something that is widely
known? If so, it might encourage people to "donate" thereby causing
more work for the volunteers rather than finding another thing to do
with expired food. Just a thought...
Brooklyn1
wrote:
I seriously doubt that fairy tale is true. Farmers are extremely picky
about the food their live stock eats. Contrary to what most city
folks believe live stock are not garbage cans. Farmers do not feed
their animals a lot of crap, many foods can make livestock sick, even
kill them. Charlotte is a fucking LIAR and one very sick twat.
Charlotte L. Blackmer
The local municipality has provided compost pails to local residents so
they can do this kind of re-use at home. Given the crazy stuff I've seen
in the food bins at the food bank, I don't think they want to encourage
anyone to get into the habit of having the food bank "recycle" their dodgy
food for them ;).
(I found a half-eaten bag of chips one time when I was packing. No lie.)
For a period my number seemed to be posted on the feeding program
section of the church web site and I got calls from people about
food donations. I was glad I had done the packing stint so I could
definitively say, "No, the food bank won't take it."
Charlotte
--
Kate Connally
> On 22-Jan-2011, "jmcquown"<j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> **************************************************************************************
>> When I got back from the grocery store the other day I automatically
>> shuffled items from the back of the freezer and the back of the pantry to
>> the front. Last in, first out. LIFO. It's an accounting method. Who
>> else
>> does this? Obviously George's wife doesn't ;)
>>
>> Jill
>
> of a general/country store. Rotating stock was part of stocking the shelves
> in that store; the practice was ingrained by the time I had my own home and
> started stocking the pantry.
Ah, that brings back memories of accounting class.
If I were actually an accountant I would have named
my cats Lifo and Fifo. ;-)
Kate
--
Kate Connally
“If I were as old as I feel, I’d be dead already.”
Goldfish: “The wholesome snack that smiles back,
Until you bite their heads off.”
What if the hokey pokey really *is* what it's all about?
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