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John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 4:54:48 PM12/12/11
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I was perusing candy ideas and came across chocolate covered bacon.
VERY interesting!!!

But how would it "keep", unrefrigerated?

Just thinking about next year, or even maybe this year!

John Kuthe...

merryb

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Dec 12, 2011, 5:46:07 PM12/12/11
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Don't you mean compound coated bacon? That sounds truly gross!

John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:20:43 PM12/12/11
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Kinda completely avoided my question, eh? Thanks for nothing.

John Kuthe...

Pico Rico

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:26:55 PM12/12/11
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"John Kuthe" <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I have seen a number of web sites that simply say "short shelf life". But I
ran across one that seems to have a technique for extending the shelf life:
"Because the bacon is candied (cooked down and preserved with sugar & salt),
they are safe for transit without refrigeration. They have a 3 month shelf
life (or 6 months if refrigerated upon receipt). Best to eat at room
temperature. "

just some thoughts for you. Be sure to report back if you delve into this.


merryb

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:33:29 PM12/12/11
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Ok, sorry. I don't think it would last long...it would need to be well
done with the least amount of grease left, IMO.

John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:33:15 PM12/12/11
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On Dec 12, 5:26 pm, "Pico Rico" <PicoR...@nonospam.com> wrote:
> "John Kuthe" <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Thanks Pico. I'm thinking of making some for my Christmas Candy. I'll
have to sample some myself first of course, but it sounds yummy. I
Googled "chocolate covered bacon" and saw one commercial site taking
about chocolate covered bacon on maple flavored ice cream!! "YUM!" I
thought!

I see you got yourself a quoting news reader too. Or did it manually.
Either way, thanks!

John Kuthe...

sf

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:40:57 PM12/12/11
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I don't think it keeps any longer than bacon would keep. The recipes
I've seen indicate that it should be eaten soon, if not immediately.


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:45:08 PM12/12/11
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I have little to no experience at how long bacon keeps. Mine usually
doesn't even last past cooling to room temp after frying!! ;-)

John Kuthe...

jmcquown

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:46:58 PM12/12/11
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"merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message
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I haven't seen the recipe but it sounds just awful to me. Who the heck
wants chocolate covered bacon?!

Jill

John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:51:54 PM12/12/11
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Google it! It seems to be all the rage recently. The saltiness and
powerful YUM flavor of the bacon combined with the sweet and also
powerful YUM flavor of the chocolate. Salty things and chocolate are
already well known, like pretzels dipped in chocolate.

I'm gonna try it! I have a bunch of raw bacon in the freezer I use for
my home made "baked" beans. Will of course post my results! :-)

John Kuthe...

Pico Rico

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:56:35 PM12/12/11
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I see you got yourself a quoting news reader too. Or did it manually.
Either way, thanks!

John Kuthe...

nope, that is the "random" part. see!


wow, I just did a test on quoting, and it seems that YOUR posts don't get
quoted, but everyone else's in this thread do! I didn't post all the tests,
of course.

that is interesting.



dsi1

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Dec 12, 2011, 6:56:24 PM12/12/11
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On 12/12/2011 1:33 PM, John Kuthe wrote:
>
> Thanks Pico. I'm thinking of making some for my Christmas Candy. I'll
> have to sample some myself first of course, but it sounds yummy. I
> Googled "chocolate covered bacon" and saw one commercial site taking
> about chocolate covered bacon on maple flavored ice cream!! "YUM!" I
> thought!

I had a bacon sundae at Denny's a while back. It was vanilla ice cream
with some maple flavored syrup with crispy bacon sprinkles. It was
pretty good. I'd order it again. Then again, I'm not that big a fan of
ice cream.

My son favors this bacon concoction from a local eatery. What a country...

http://hokulii.typepad.com/my_weblog/2010/01/project-365-day-11-part-2-elvis-is-in-da-house.html

sf

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Dec 12, 2011, 7:31:49 PM12/12/11
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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:46:58 -0500, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Who the heck wants chocolate covered bacon?!

The "everything's better with bacon" people do.

Pico Rico

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Dec 12, 2011, 7:34:14 PM12/12/11
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"sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:46:58 -0500, "jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Who the heck wants chocolate covered bacon?!
>
> The "everything's better with bacon" people do.
>


so do "the everything's better with chocolate" people.


Kalmia

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Dec 12, 2011, 7:20:58 PM12/12/11
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Probably the same way a covered apple 'keeps'. This has always amazed
me. I never wanted to risk one penny on any kind of covered apple.

dsi1

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Dec 12, 2011, 8:16:53 PM12/12/11
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I've had chocolate covered potato chips - it's odd to have chocolate and
a fried/salty taste together. I'm not a big fan of chocolate so I'm open
to new applications of this material. :-)

Goomba

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Dec 12, 2011, 8:49:13 PM12/12/11
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On 12/12/11 8:16 PM, dsi1 wrote:

> I've had chocolate covered potato chips - it's odd to have chocolate and
> a fried/salty taste together. I'm not a big fan of chocolate so I'm open
> to new applications of this material. :-)
>
ohmygawd. Chocolate with something salty like popcorn or chips is the
ideal cure for PMS!!

merryb

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Dec 12, 2011, 9:07:16 PM12/12/11
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That's when you nuke a Rolo between a couple of small pretzels...

dsi1

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Dec 12, 2011, 9:20:24 PM12/12/11
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I don't know how to respond to this. Is this true? How about some nice
chocolate covered Zoloft instead... :-)

Goomba

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Dec 12, 2011, 9:39:08 PM12/12/11
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On 12/12/11 9:20 PM, dsi1 wrote:

>> ohmygawd. Chocolate with something salty like popcorn or chips is the
>> ideal cure for PMS!!
>
> I don't know how to respond to this. Is this true? How about some nice
> chocolate covered Zoloft instead... :-)

Why zoloft? No one is gonna hurl! LOL.
The sweet-salty thing is a *craving*

Bryan

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Dec 12, 2011, 10:04:03 PM12/12/11
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On Dec 12, 6:34 pm, "Pico Rico" <PicoR...@nonospam.com> wrote:
> "sf" <s...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> news:h67de79vjbcsjaqh8...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:46:58 -0500, "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Who the heck wants chocolate covered bacon?!
>
> > The "everything's better with bacon" people do.
>
> so do "the everything's better with chocolate" people.

It sounds awful, and I love both bacon and chocolate. Seriously,
John.

I'm going to miss your toffee this year. There are few carby things I
have been missing, mostly whole milk and the crusts of crusty bread,
and of course, fruit. Really though, how much sugar really is in a
little bit of bare toffee, and what better to allocate a few grams of
carb to. Finely minced toasted almonds would be nice in that, and I
bet that a little erythritol could be subbed for some of the sugar,
the only downside being the cooling mouth-feel. You should approach
Bud Starr about working for him making candy. Sure, it'd be just a
few hours a week, but you've been making candy for years, and are
quite skilled at it. Shit, you even know how to temper real
chocolate.

--Bryan

John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 10:23:48 PM12/12/11
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On Dec 12, 9:04 pm, Bryan <bryangsimm...@gmail.com> wrote:
...
> It sounds awful, and I love both bacon and chocolate.  Seriously,
> John.

Some people seem to like it, and when I think about it I may too. I've
just never tried it.


>
> I'm going to miss your toffee this year.  There are few carby things I
> have been missing, mostly whole milk and the crusts of crusty bread,
> and of course, fruit.  Really though, how much sugar really is in a
> little bit of bare toffee

Just about all of it that's not butter or the cream solids! ;-)


> and what better to allocate a few grams of
> carb to.  Finely minced toasted almonds would be nice in that

My nephew Paul makes toffee too, but he doesn't use cream, just sugar
and butter. He's been making his for a few years now and has gotten
quite good at it. He made it over here last year so I got to see his
production methods.Pretty cool, he doesn't even use a candy
thermometer, he just knows when it's "done", then he pours it out on a
slab and puts Hershey bars on it (which melt of course) and then puts
I think slivered almonds on it. It's very good, I like it even better
than mine, I think because it's different.



>, and I
> bet that a little erythritol could be subbed for some of the sugar,

Try it. I'll not! ;-)



> the only downside being the cooling mouth-feel.  You should approach
> Bud Starr about working for him making candy.  Sure, it'd be just a
> few hours a week, but you've been making candy for years, and are
> quite skilled at it.

Nahhh, it's just my Christmas thing.


> Shit, you even know how to temper real
> chocolate.

In theory, I've never done it, at least on purpose. I just melt the
real chocolate I use on my cherries slow and low, so as to not break
the existing temper.

John Kuthe...
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John Kuthe

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Dec 12, 2011, 11:51:01 PM12/12/11
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On Dec 12, 9:31 pm, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> I noticed that a lot of people eat things that you can't imagine.
> And chocolate covered bacon and bacon chocolate has been on the market
> for 2-3 years now and is not only still kicking, but companies have
> joined in as well.
>
> I did a brown sugar coated bacon toffee and it was pretty good. I ate
> it all within a few hours.  Very addicting: Salt, fat and sugared
> meat?  It spells "success".  I can see doing a chocolate version.  But
> I'd never pay the ridiculous prices for store-bought.
>
> Pictures of my bacon toffee:http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8162/bacontoffee2.jpg
>
> Just looking at it reminds me I need to do it again.  This time with
> jalapeno bacon!
>
> -sw

See Bryan, et. al? There does exist people who like chocolate covered
bacon, and other such concoctions! Must be something there to like! I
trust you 100% never to suggest or cook anything gross, but the
converse I do not take stock in. Just because you don't like a thing
does not mean to me that I might not. Curry for example, which I love
and I know you detest.

S'OK, means more curry for me! :-)

John Kuthe...
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John Kuthe

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Dec 13, 2011, 9:05:30 AM12/13/11
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On Dec 13, 7:19 am, Sqwertz <swe...@cluemail.compost> wrote:
> Apples are stored at room temperature.  Protecting them from air makes
> them last even longer.
>
> Meat products are not stored at room temperature without much more
> elaborate processing and packaging.
>
> -sw

Truedat. Apples mostly only have sugar (carbs!) as a nutrient and come
from Nature prepackaged as well. Meat is primarily protein and fat,
has no prepackaging outside the body from which it came and without
it's body's functioning active immune system is particularly
susceptible to bacteriological breakdown.

John Kuthe...

news

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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> I haven't seen the recipe but it sounds just awful to me. Who the heck
> wants chocolate covered bacon?!
>
> Jill

It's fantastic. I make pig candy and take it to holiday parties, some plain
(just brown sugar and cayenne or dry mustard) and some drizzled with
chocolate. It disappears fast!


John Kuthe

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Dec 13, 2011, 9:16:54 AM12/13/11
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On Dec 13, 8:10 am, "news" <n...@news.ne> wrote:
> "jmcquown" <j_mcqu...@comcast.net> wrote in message
This may be the last candy I make in my yearly production of Christmas
Candy, simply for the questionable shelf life of Pig Candy. I think I
will call it that too, to alert the porcinophobes to it's presence (or
may not include any in any porcinophobe's boxes!)

Thanks for all the feedback!! :-)

John Kuthe...

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Kalmia

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Dec 13, 2011, 10:05:02 AM12/13/11
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Somehow, I always figured they were pealed, THEN dipped. Dummy me.

sf

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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:05:02 -0800 (PST), Kalmia
<tween...@mypacks.net> wrote:

> Somehow, I always figured they were pealed, THEN dipped. Dummy me.

Oh, no! I used to make caramel apples instead of cupcakes to take in
to the class on my children's birthday (Fall birthdays) every year. I
still treat myself to at least one caramel apple per year. I don't do
it very often because they're so big (and expensive as all get out).

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 13, 2011, 5:22:58 PM12/13/11
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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:20:43 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
> <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 12, 4:46 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was perusing candy ideas and came across chocolate covered bacon.
>>>> VERY interesting!!!
>>>
>>>> But how would it "keep", unrefrigerated?
>>>
>>>> Just thinking about next year, or even maybe this year!
>>>
>>>> John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> Don't you mean compound coated bacon? That sounds truly gross!
>>
>> Kinda completely avoided my question, eh? Thanks for nothing.
>>
> I don't think it keeps any longer than bacon would keep. The recipes
> I've seen indicate that it should be eaten soon, if not immediately.

I see precooked bacon packages in the stores all the time... unrefrigerated.

Not that I would ever eat it, but given the chemistry of producing store
bought precooked bacon I wouldn't be surprised if it has a half life similar
to an Eqyptian pyramid.

MartyB


sf

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Dec 13, 2011, 5:30:39 PM12/13/11
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:22:58 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> > I don't think it keeps any longer than bacon would keep. The recipes
> > I've seen indicate that it should be eaten soon, if not immediately.
>
> I see precooked bacon packages in the stores all the time... unrefrigerated.
>
> Not that I would ever eat it, but given the chemistry of producing store
> bought precooked bacon I wouldn't be surprised if it has a half life similar
> to an Eqyptian pyramid.
>

Are you talking about a camping store product? I've not only never
seen it, this is the first time I've even heard of it. You're saying
that stuff is treated with more chemical preservatives to prolong
shelf life, right? John and I are talking about ordinary bacon that
you'd cook yourself.
--

Ham and eggs.
A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

John Kuthe

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Dec 13, 2011, 5:37:53 PM12/13/11
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On Dec 13, 4:30 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:22:58 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
>
> <nunyabidn...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
> > sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I don't think it keeps any longer than bacon would keep.  The recipes
> > > I've seen indicate that it should be eaten soon, if not immediately.
>
> > I see precooked bacon packages in the stores all the time... unrefrigerated.
>
> > Not that I would ever eat it, but given the chemistry of producing store
> > bought precooked bacon I wouldn't be surprised if it has a half life similar
> > to an Eqyptian pyramid.
>
> Are you talking about a camping store product?  I've not only never
> seen it, this is the first time I've even heard of it.  You're saying
> that stuff is treated with more chemical preservatives to prolong
> shelf life, right?  John and I are talking about ordinary bacon that
> you'd cook yourself.

Yup! I'm gonna use the best real bacon I can get. I have some
defrosting in my fridge that I've been using in my home made "baked"
beans that I plan on testing with. It's hickory smoked, can't remember
the brand. I bought it a local grocers (Schnucks). It's pretty good.

John Kuthe...

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 13, 2011, 6:02:45 PM12/13/11
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I'm talking about that crap they sell precooked. It's bacon, it's just
already cooked. And often it's not in refrigeration. Granted it's sealed in
unobtanium film, but still.



John Kuthe

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Dec 13, 2011, 6:08:44 PM12/13/11
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On Dec 13, 5:02 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
I think I may have seen that. Unobtainium, yep! Maybe it's irradiated.
That would be cool!!

Irradiated Pig Candy!

John Kuthe...

Cheryl

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Dec 13, 2011, 6:57:48 PM12/13/11
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On 12/12/2011 10:31 PM, Sqwertz wrote:
> I did a brown sugar coated bacon toffee and it was pretty good. I ate
> it all within a few hours. Very addicting: Salt, fat and sugared
> meat? It spells "success". I can see doing a chocolate version. But
> I'd never pay the ridiculous prices for store-bought.
>
> Pictures of my bacon toffee:
> http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/8162/bacontoffee2.jpg
>
> Just looking at it reminds me I need to do it again. This time with
> jalapeno bacon!

Looks really good! How do you get the bacon strips so flat?

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sf

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Dec 13, 2011, 9:30:59 PM12/13/11
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Do you plan to candy it first by broiling it with brown sugar?
http://www.food.com/recipe/brown-sugar-bacon-33649

sf

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Dec 13, 2011, 9:32:35 PM12/13/11
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 17:02:45 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
I don't know about any precooked "bacon" other than bacon bits for
salad. It's crumbled and I don't think it's even real meat.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 13, 2011, 9:38:11 PM12/13/11
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I think every stupidmarket in the country sells that crap. The packages look
pretty much like regular bacon, just not quite as wide. Check it out next
time you're in the store. It's one of those things that just isn't right
with the cosmos, like Land 'o Lakes Fat Free Half and Half.

MartyB


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John Kuthe

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Dec 13, 2011, 10:40:59 PM12/13/11
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On Dec 13, 8:38 pm, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
...
>
> I think every stupidmarket in the country sells that crap. The packages look
> pretty much like regular bacon, just not quite as wide. Check it out next
> time you're in the store. It's one of those things that just isn't right
> with the cosmos, like Land 'o Lakes Fat Free Half and Half.
>
> MartyB

Or sugar free candy! After making candy for Christmas for 25 years, I
can tell you one thing conclusively: candy is primarily sugar.

If I eat a piece of sugar free candy, what exactly is it that I'm
putting in my mouth? Sugar free candy is like saying fat free butter
or protein free meat! Just not right in the cosmos!!


John Kuthe...

merryb

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Dec 13, 2011, 10:42:52 PM12/13/11
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I think you'd be better off making a maple flavored ganache and roll
into balls, dip in your preferred medium, and then garnish with finely
chopped bacon. Actually, that doesn't sound all that bad, but I'd use
real chocolate myself...

Steve Pope

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Dec 13, 2011, 11:26:07 PM12/13/11
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On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was perusing candy ideas and came across chocolate covered bacon.
> VERY interesting!!!

> But how would it "keep", unrefrigerated?

I have made chocolate covered bacon, but only for immediate consumption.
As such, I did not use confectionary methods to melt the chocolate;
I simply took slightly undercooked squares of fried bacon, and squares
of (sweetened dark) chocolate, and microwaved them together.

Unless you're feeding an army with this, there's no reason to make
it in advance. It takes like a few minutes.

I suspect my method would not store very well; the melted
chocolate would start to fractionate after a while and you'd
have white scum on the surface. Or globules of bacon fat would
migrate out.

But for eating right away, it is indeed fine stuff.

Tangentially this is one of the rare instances where a microwave
seems to be the right idea.

Steve

sf

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Dec 14, 2011, 12:51:46 AM12/14/11
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On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:38:11 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
So, if I ask (which I will do instead of searching for it)... what
should I ask for? Give me a brand name and some other description so
they can tell me if the store carries it or doesn't carry it.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 14, 2011, 2:01:32 AM12/14/11
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I don't buy the crap so I can only guess. It's not like I have a package.
Like I already said, it's like regular bacon, just not as wide. What brands
of bacon do you have there? Oscar Mayer? That's a nationally common brand.
You just ask for pre-cooked bacon. Or if you look around where the bacon is
you'll find it. Or Google it... Oscar Mayer. Precooked, fully cooked, ready
to eat, or something like that. I think the only way you will be told that
a grocer doesn't carry it is if you ask an idiot. It's everywhere.

But why do you care? Do you really want to buy precooked sliced bacon that
does not need refrigeration?

MartyB


Jim Elbrecht

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Dec 14, 2011, 7:45:29 AM12/14/11
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Hormel makes one. We get it at Sam's. 'the others' use it for
BLT's-- it is quick and easy. I've tasted it and it really isn't
that bad.

Price wise, it looks expensive at first until you account for all the
grease that gets cooked off. I don't save bacon grease anymore, so
it would get tossed.

http://www.hormel.com/locator.aspx

BTW- Bacon Bits [a Hormel trademark] are real bacon. [I prefer the
crunch of Bacos, myself-- they are vegan.<g>]

Jim

sf

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Dec 14, 2011, 11:11:46 AM12/14/11
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 01:01:32 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
I asked because I don't believe it's a grocery store item.

sf

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:45:29 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

> Hormel makes one. We get it at Sam's. 'the others' use it for
> BLT's-- it is quick and easy. I've tasted it and it really isn't
> that bad.
>
> Price wise, it looks expensive at first until you account for all the
> grease that gets cooked off. I don't save bacon grease anymore, so
> it would get tossed.
>
> http://www.hormel.com/locator.aspx

>
Thanks, but I still don't know what I'd be looking for.
>
> BTW- Bacon Bits [a Hormel trademark] are real bacon. [I prefer the
> crunch of Bacos, myself-- they are vegan.<g>]

Okay. :)

Jim Elbrecht

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 08:14:38 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:45:29 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Hormel makes one. We get it at Sam's. 'the others' use it for
>> BLT's-- it is quick and easy. I've tasted it and it really isn't
>> that bad.
>>
>> Price wise, it looks expensive at first until you account for all the
>> grease that gets cooked off. I don't save bacon grease anymore, so
>> it would get tossed.
>>
>> http://www.rhormel.com/locator.aspx
>
>>
>Thanks, but I still don't know what I'd be looking for.

Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.

you put in your zip code.
Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
Brand = Hormel
Variety= Fully cooked

You don't need to put in what size package.

Jim

sf

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

> Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.
>
> you put in your zip code.
> Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
> Brand = Hormel
> Variety= Fully cooked
>
> You don't need to put in what size package.

That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
called?

Jim Elbrecht

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:09:40 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.
>>
>> you put in your zip code.
>> Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
>> Brand = Hormel
>> Variety= Fully cooked
>>
>> You don't need to put in what size package.
>
>That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
>that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
>called?

It is called-- "Hormel Fully Cooked Bacon"

If you were sitting here with me I'd offer you a nice tall bourbon.

Here's some pictures-- I'm running out of words.
http://www.packitgourmet.com/Hormel-Bacon-Strips.html
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=154798

Jim

sf

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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:22:34 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
wrote:

>
> It is called-- "Hormel Fully Cooked Bacon"

Thanks, I didn't see that in their little composition. I was
wondering if microwave ready was their euphemism for it.
>
> If you were sitting here with me I'd offer you a nice tall bourbon.
>
> Here's some pictures-- I'm running out of words.
> http://www.packitgourmet.com/Hormel-Bacon-Strips.html
> http://www.samsclub.com/sams/shop/product.jsp?productId=154798

Nope. Haven't seen it. Thanks.

John Kuthe

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On Dec 14, 11:09 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Sometimes you amaze me.   It ain't rocket-surgery.
>
> > you put in your zip code.
> > Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
> > Brand = Hormel
> > Variety= Fully cooked
>
> > You don't need to put in what size package.
>
> That's not what I wanted to know.  Bacon is all over the place and
> that's what it will tell me about.  What is the precooked stuff
> called?

Probably this:

http://bacon-labels.blogspot.com/2009/02/hormel-pre-cooked-bacon-packaged-for.html

Hormel/Farmland precooked bacon.

John Kuthe...

Kalmia

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On Dec 14, 2:01 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
I saw it in my super in the produce section. Very skeptically, I
checked the ingredients, pondered the preservative level, almost fell
over when I figured the price per pound.......... in short, one more
gimmick for lazy cooks. What will they think of next?

John Kuthe

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On Dec 14, 11:01 am, Kalmia <tweeny90...@mypacks.net> wrote:
...
>
> I saw it in my super in the produce section.  Very skeptically, I
> checked the ingredients, pondered the preservative level, almost fell
> over when I figured the price per pound.......... in short, one more
> gimmick for lazy cooks.  What will they think of next?

Yeah, I can only imagine the price per pound!!! Raw smoked bacon is
already $4-$5 a pound, this must be about $10-$15 a pound, I'll bet!

John Kuthe...

Nunya Bidnits

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Seriously? Yeah, right, I'm just making it up to mess with your head.

Sheesh. Take a pill.


sf

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Thanks. If I've ever seen it, I didn't give it any serious
consideration because I certainly don't remember it.

Nunya Bidnits

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht <elbr...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.
>>
>> you put in your zip code.
>> Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
>> Brand = Hormel
>> Variety= Fully cooked
>>
>> You don't need to put in what size package.
>
> That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
> that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
> called?

Seriously? Did you even try to google pre cooked bacon or fully cooked bacon
while refusing to believe it exists?





John Kuthe

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On Dec 14, 11:58 am, "Nunya Bidnits" <nunyabidn...@eternal-
september.invalid> wrote:
...
>
> Seriously? Did you even try to google pre cooked bacon or fully cooked bacon
> while refusing to believe it exists?

New law of physics/philosophy: If it does not show up on a Google
search, it does not exist.

;-)

John Kuthe...

Goomba

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Dec 14, 2011, 4:25:05 PM12/14/11
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On 12/14/11 12:09 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht<elbr...@email.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.
>>
>> you put in your zip code.
>> Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
>> Brand = Hormel
>> Variety= Fully cooked
>>
>> You don't need to put in what size package.
>
> That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
> that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
> called?

Bacon.
Oscar Mayer.
Thin box, often found near lunch meats/pepperonis in that sort of
section. Probably in every single grocery market you shop in, except you
seem to live in blinders.

Kevin Sheehy

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Dec 14, 2011, 4:58:07 PM12/14/11
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On Dec 13, 6:32 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

> I don't know about any precooked "bacon" other than bacon bits for
> salad.  It's crumbled and I don't think it's even real meat.

Even Trader Joe's sells it. In their case, it's refrigerated and
next to the regular you-cook bacon. I've never bought it and
don't plan to.


Storrmmee

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Dec 14, 2011, 5:33:47 PM12/14/11
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try it first to see if its worth your effort, its nice for a taste but a
little goes a very long way, Lee
"John Kuthe" <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I was perusing candy ideas and came across chocolate covered bacon.
> VERY interesting!!!
>
> But how would it "keep", unrefrigerated?
>
> Just thinking about next year, or even maybe this year!
>
> John Kuthe...


Storrmmee

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Dec 14, 2011, 5:35:16 PM12/14/11
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very popular in the east, its a most interesting sensation, but as i said
earlier, a couple of chuncks and its enough, Lee
"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "merryb" <msg...@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:3429c2d1-6480-4c57...@z22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>> On Dec 12, 3:20 pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Dec 12, 4:46 pm, merryb <msg...@juno.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Dec 12, 1:54 pm, John Kuthe <johnkuth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > I was perusing candy ideas and came across chocolate covered bacon.
>>> > > VERY interesting!!!
>>>
>>> > > But how would it "keep", unrefrigerated?
>>>
>>> > > Just thinking about next year, or even maybe this year!
>>>
>>> > > John Kuthe...
>>>
>>> > Don't you mean compound coated bacon? That sounds truly gross!
>>>
>>> Kinda completely avoided my question, eh? Thanks for nothing.
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>>
>> Ok, sorry. I don't think it would last long...it would need to be well
>> done with the least amount of grease left, IMO.
>
>
> I haven't seen the recipe but it sounds just awful to me. Who the heck
> wants chocolate covered bacon?!
>
> Jill


Storrmmee

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Dec 14, 2011, 5:49:31 PM12/14/11
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she should get out more, lol, talk about lazy when you can't even be
bothered to do the work to prove someone wrong, that is too rich, LOL, Lee
s
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Storrmmee

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from the sounds of her post, a controlled substance easily used by grown ups
is not for her, Lee
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sf

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I looked at some website... what was that Hormel? They had a group of
items in one picture - I saw microwave bacon, not precooked. Oh, I
was at a grocery store just a couple of hours ago and looked for your
precooked bacon and there was only bacon bits in the salad dressing
section.

sf

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Dec 14, 2011, 7:37:00 PM12/14/11
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:05 -0500, Goomba <goom...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Bacon.
> Oscar Mayer.
> Thin box, often found near lunch meats/pepperonis in that sort of
> section. Probably in every single grocery market you shop in, except you
> seem to live in blinders.

Or maybe it's a Southern thing.

Goomba

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Dec 14, 2011, 9:55:49 PM12/14/11
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On 12/14/11 7:37 PM, sf wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:05 -0500, Goomba<goom...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Bacon.
>> Oscar Mayer.
>> Thin box, often found near lunch meats/pepperonis in that sort of
>> section. Probably in every single grocery market you shop in, except you
>> seem to live in blinders.
>
> Or maybe it's a Southern thing.

well apparently its a Safeway thing found there in San Francisco.
Take your aricept, remove the blinders and you'll notice a lot of things
you insist don't exist...

Nunya Bidnits

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:58:06 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:25:52 -0500, Jim Elbrecht
>>> <elbr...@email.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sometimes you amaze me. It ain't rocket-surgery.
>>>>
>>>> you put in your zip code.
>>>> Under category. . maybe "Bacon"?
>>>> Brand = Hormel
>>>> Variety= Fully cooked
>>>>
>>>> You don't need to put in what size package.
>>>
>>> That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
>>> that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
>>> called?
>>
>> Seriously? Did you even try to google pre cooked bacon or fully
>> cooked bacon while refusing to believe it exists?
>>
> I looked at some website... what was that Hormel? They had a group of
> items in one picture - I saw microwave bacon, not precooked. Oh, I
> was at a grocery store just a couple of hours ago and looked for your
> precooked bacon and there was only bacon bits in the salad dressing
> section.

OK then, it must not exist. We've all been hallucinating.

Must be that moldy bread.


Storrmmee

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Dec 15, 2011, 12:34:05 AM12/15/11
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lol, marty i am not sure why you try, she does a perfect troll every time
she goes this with a new to her prodcut, Lee
"Nunya Bidnits" <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote in message
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sf

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Dec 15, 2011, 1:01:27 AM12/15/11
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:09:25 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
Why were you defensive/offensive when I tried to find out what it was
called? I'm not denying your reality, but apparently you're trying to
deny mine. It's not popular enough here for me to have even heard
about it, much less seen it in person. What can't you understand
about that?

David Harmon

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Dec 15, 2011, 10:01:41 AM12/15/11
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:37:00 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, sf
<s...@geemail.com> wrote,
>On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:25:05 -0500, Goomba <goom...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>> Bacon.
>> Oscar Mayer.
>> Thin box, often found near lunch meats/pepperonis in that sort of
>> section. Probably in every single grocery market you shop in, except you
>> seem to live in blinders.
>
>Or maybe it's a Southern thing.

No, it's you.

Nunya Bidnits

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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:09:25 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:58:06 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
>>> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's not what I wanted to know. Bacon is all over the place and
>>>>> that's what it will tell me about. What is the precooked stuff
>>>>> called?
>>>>
>>>> Seriously? Did you even try to google pre cooked bacon or fully
>>>> cooked bacon while refusing to believe it exists?
>>>>
>>> I looked at some website... what was that Hormel? They had a group
>>> of items in one picture - I saw microwave bacon, not precooked.
>>> Oh, I was at a grocery store just a couple of hours ago and looked
>>> for your precooked bacon and there was only bacon bits in the salad
>>> dressing section.
>>
>> OK then, it must not exist. We've all been hallucinating.
>>
>> Must be that moldy bread.
>>
>
> Why were you defensive/offensive when I tried to find out what it was
> called? I'm not denying your reality, but apparently you're trying to
> deny mine. It's not popular enough here for me to have even heard
> about it, much less seen it in person. What can't you understand
> about that?

People have told you what it's called. Pre cooked or fully cooked bacon. I
told you to check Oscar Mayer, and I told you to google those terms and you
would find lots of it.

If you had just done that you would see quite clearly on Oscar Mayer's
website bacon page that there is fully cooked bacon for sale, and you would
find many other references to similar products from other companies.

I'm not defensive, just boggled at your refusal to accept the clear and
plentiful information you've been offered.

My reality is fine. But then they say nothing actually exists until you see
it. Beware the quantum physics.

MartyB


sf

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Dec 15, 2011, 1:50:22 PM12/15/11
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You're still trying to equate the fact that it exists in the stores
where you shop with it existing in the stores where I shop, which is a
fiction that you've created.

sf

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 07:01:41 -0800, David Harmon <sou...@netcom.com>
wrote:
The reality is that I wouldn't buy it if it walked up and introduced
itself to me by name.

Goomba

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Dec 15, 2011, 2:22:05 PM12/15/11
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On 12/15/11 1:50 PM, sf wrote:

> You're still trying to equate the fact that it exists in the stores
> where you shop with it existing in the stores where I shop, which is a
> fiction that you've created.

According to the Kraft website, your local San Francisco Safeway stores
sell Oscar Mayer precooked bacon. I'm sure other chain markets do too.

You're frequently oblivious to anything you don't personally use.
Kinda scary to have such tunnel vision, isn't it?

John Kuthe

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Dec 15, 2011, 2:26:40 PM12/15/11
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This thread has degenerated into a pissing content, methinks!

Time to fry some bacon and melt some chocolate!! :-)

John Kuthe...

John Kuthe

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:07:18 PM12/15/11
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Oh HERE IT IS!!!! Sheesh! Whatta POS GoogleGroups is!

Chocolate is warming. See other thread.

John Kuthe...

sf

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:23:49 PM12/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:22:05 -0500, Goomba <goom...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> You're frequently oblivious to anything you don't personally use.
> Kinda scary to have such tunnel vision, isn't it?

No, it's not scary at all. What's really scary are the people who say
they know all about a product they claim not to use. I call them
liars.

John Kuthe

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:32:51 PM12/15/11
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On Dec 15, 2:23 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:22:05 -0500, Goomba <goomb...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> > You're frequently oblivious to anything you don't personally use.
> > Kinda scary to have such tunnel vision, isn't it?
>
> No, it's not scary at all.  What's really scary are the people who say
> they know all about a product they claim not to use.  I call them
> liars.
> --
>
> Ham and eggs.
> A day's work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a pig.

You all can quit pissing now. The floor is puddles!!

John Kuthe...

sf

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:42:42 PM12/15/11
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I'll quit if you promise never to post about how google groups is
behaving.

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:55:31 PM12/15/11
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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:22:05 -0500, Goomba <goom...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>> You're frequently oblivious to anything you don't personally use.
>> Kinda scary to have such tunnel vision, isn't it?
>
> No, it's not scary at all. What's really scary are the people who say
> they know all about a product they claim not to use. I call them
> liars.

Is that directed at me?

Are you saying that if I choose not to eat something which seems unnaturally
preserved, like uncanned meat that is not refrigerated, I'm a liar?
Hmmmm???? What precisely did I lie about? Be sure to cite my post exactly
where I told a lie.

I'm thinking you're off your meds.


John Kuthe

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Dec 15, 2011, 3:45:01 PM12/15/11
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Oh, OK! Piss all you want!

I think I'll have another piece of chocolate covered BACON!! :-)

John Kuthe...

merryb

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Dec 15, 2011, 5:59:16 PM12/15/11
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LOL- good luck with that!

sf

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Dec 15, 2011, 9:41:48 PM12/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:59:16 -0800 (PST), merryb <msg...@juno.com>
wrote:

> LOL- good luck with that!

I know! Well, I found it today. Mission accomplished. Came up blank
with rennet though.

sf

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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:55:31 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

> I'm thinking you're off your meds.

I'm thinking you need to start some.

David Harmon

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Dec 15, 2011, 10:17:23 PM12/15/11
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:52:13 -0800 in rec.food.cooking, sf
<s...@geemail.com> wrote,
>The reality is that I wouldn't buy it if it walked up and introduced
>itself to me by name.

I never bought any. Any time I have seen it, it's way too expensive
compared to cook-your-own. Why wouldn't I want fresh cooked?

Nunya Bidnits

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Dec 16, 2011, 12:05:44 AM12/16/11
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sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 14:55:31 -0600, "Nunya Bidnits"
> <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking you're off your meds.
>
> I'm thinking you need to start some.

Clever.


sf

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Dec 16, 2011, 12:22:34 AM12/16/11
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:17:23 -0800, David Harmon <sou...@netcom.com>
wrote:
I don't know. Why would you?
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