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Dennis Blythe

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Dec 4, 1992, 12:56:44 AM12/4/92
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My family always believed that saurkraut on New Years day brought
good health and prosperity for that year. And in the south Pinto
beans were always believed to do the same for the southerners. Also
some people believe that luandering your clothes on New Years Day
was sure to bring bad luck. Does anyone else have any Superstitions
as to what to eat or not on New Years????

Pam B.


Dawn Burgess

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Dec 4, 1992, 2:14:48 AM12/4/92
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We always had to have black-eyed peas, stewed tomatoes and saurkraut.
(Sounds gross, but it is good!)


Dawn


Meg Worley

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Dec 4, 1992, 10:35:21 AM12/4/92
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My mother, who's from Texas, insists that I
have at least one bite of pickled black-eyed
peas. My SO escaped this dosing the first
New Year's we were at her house when he said,
"Joan, if it's between those things and bad
luck, I'll take the bad luck. Now stay away
from me with that fork!!"

Rage away,

meg

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Joy Banks

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Dec 4, 1992, 9:04:46 AM12/4/92
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Hey, I'm from the South and we ate black-eyed peas, not pinto beans.
Was my family bringing us bad bean luck all these years? Oh no.

Joy

Tammy Roncadori - Administrator Sun Vienna Va.

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Dec 4, 1992, 7:21:37 AM12/4/92
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I don't know what south you are referring to but, in the deep south
(Georgia/Florida) we consider Hog Jowls, Black eye peas and turnip
greens the traditional New Years Day meal to bring good luck.

Message from Montreal

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Dec 4, 1992, 1:23:00 PM12/4/92
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In article <1992Dec4.0...@infonode.ingr.com>, blyt...@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes...

>Does anyone else have any Superstitions
>as to what to eat or not on New Years????
>
while not exactly a meal, this one is food-related:

in our family (before i was born), the first person through the door in the
New Year should bring food with him/her. The most desirable edibles should
be bread and salt.

an aside: an almost-80-year-old lady at church will not leave her house
after Dec 31 until a
dark-haired man has crossed her threshold. (no double meanings to this
phrase, folks! :):) )
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William R. Smith

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Dec 4, 1992, 3:08:23 PM12/4/92
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Rosemary Warren writes:

while not exactly a meal, this one is food-related:

in our family (before i was born), the first person through
the door in the New Year should bring food with him/her.
The most desirable edibles should be bread and salt.

This was the custom with my Scottish Grandparents. We would try to
be the first to visit them on New Year's. I think some special luck
accroued to the person know as "First Footer" who brought the goodies.


William Smith
Intel, SSD

Scott Wells

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Dec 4, 1992, 5:38:25 PM12/4/92
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In article <1992Dec4.0...@infonode.ingr.com> blyt...@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes:

>And in the south Pinto
>beans were always believed to do the same for the southerners.

Around here, that's black-eyed peas. Eat at least 365, one for each
day of the next year. Also eat greens for wealth.


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Steve Masticola

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Dec 4, 1992, 5:09:13 PM12/4/92
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Well, my grandmom wasn't from the deep south, just Maryland. So for
her it was ham, black-eyed peas, and collards.

OK, that's boring. So how about a Polish custom that can give you
pneumonia? It's called Dinkis Day (sp?), and occurs on January 2. The
first visitor to your house that day gets a bucket of water over their
head, regardless of whether or not they need a shower. :-)

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la1...@albnyvms.bitnet

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Dec 5, 1992, 4:32:10 AM12/5/92
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Don't forget to wear New Red Panties on New Years' Eve!!!
(I think that's Italian)

Clover, who usually forgets her red panties

kati norris

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Dec 6, 1992, 6:50:22 AM12/6/92
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blyt...@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes:

It isn't pinto beans, It's black-eyed peas.

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Matthew Quellas

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Dec 6, 1992, 10:48:58 PM12/6/92
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ldr...@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (kati norris) writes:

>blyt...@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes:

>> My family always believed that saurkraut on New Years day brought
>> good health and prosperity for that year. And in the south Pinto
>> beans were always believed to do the same for the southerners. Also
>> some people believe that luandering your clothes on New Years Day
>> was sure to bring bad luck. Does anyone else have any Superstitions
>> as to what to eat or not on New Years????
>>
>> Pam B.
>>
>>

>It isn't pinto beans, It's black-eyed peas.

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Don't eat fowl on New Year's or your money will come in
"little pecks". Eat PIG! Black-eyed peas are your silver
change; Greens, such as collards, are your folding-money.
Doesn't do much for the cholesterol count, but it sure
tastes good.
Corn bread, too. Might say it's your "gold".

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Peter Wung

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Dec 6, 1992, 11:35:51 PM12/6/92
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Well, I am not sure if this is what you had in mind, but my chinese ancestry is
begging to come out.

The old folks usually stay up real late on the 31st and gather all the family around for a big family meal. There is usually yuan-bao, a dumpling that has scrambled egg skins and pork stuffing, in the soup, this is because they resemble gold nuggets.
There is alway a whole fish, head and all, at the head of the table. The word for fish is mandarin is phonetically the same as the word for leftover, this means that every year we have fish, or every year we have something leftover for the new year. My mom used to make meat balls covered with sticky rice, they are called pearl balls, but I think that is just for our family. But sticky rice is almost always present for the midnight meal. We stay up all night, and the food is prepared for midnight, when


the spirits of our ancestors come and partake in our good fortune of the past year and bless us for the next year. We then sit and pig out. The kids will then light the fireworks to scare away the bad spirits. The kids also get a big mandarin orange for good luck, again because a mandarin orange resemble a big chunk of gold, along with some money in a red envelope, to "press" the years away.

I am sure there is more foods that I am forgetting, but this is all that I can remember.


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Doris Woods

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Dec 7, 1992, 12:50:18 PM12/7/92
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In article <1992Dec4.0...@infonode.ingr.com> blyt...@infonode.ingr.com (Dennis Blythe) writes:

Oh boy. My mom sure does!!! Pickled herring right at midnight.
She even used to wake me up when I was a kid to give me pickled
herring.

Now that I'm on my own she calls me to make sure I have some in the
fridge. :-)

Doris

Deborah M Riel

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Dec 7, 1992, 1:52:27 PM12/7/92
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>> My family always believed that saurkraut on New Years day brought
>>good health and prosperity for that year. And in the south Pinto
>>beans were always believed to do the same for the southerners. Also
>>some people believe that luandering your clothes on New Years Day
>>was sure to bring bad luck. Does anyone else have any Superstitions
>>as to what to eat or not on New Years????
>>
>> Pam B.

In my family, we always had to eat lentils on New Year's Day for good
health and prosperity. My parents were both from Philadelphia, so
maybe this is a Pennsylvania custom?

Debbie

Micah Samuel Rosen

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Dec 7, 1992, 3:24:47 PM12/7/92
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I don't know about Pinto Beans in the South but in Charleston, SC we would eat
Hoppin' John, which is based on black eyed peas.

By the way, I've lost my recipe for Hoppin' John. If anyone out there has
a recipe (preferably with some substitution for the pork products) please
post or email to the above address.

Micah Rosen ****** Univ. of Virginia B.S. Architecture 1990 "Go Hoos"
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Doug Harper

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Dec 8, 1992, 11:38:08 AM12/8/92
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In article <1992Dec7.1...@walter.bellcore.com> d...@thumper.UUCP (Doris Woods) writes:
> Oh boy. My mom sure does!!! Pickled herring right at midnight.
>She even used to wake me up when I was a kid to give me pickled
>herring.
>
> Now that I'm on my own she calls me to make sure I have some in the
>fridge. :-)
>
> Doris
>

In our family it was creamed pickled herring. As a kid I hated it, but now
I like it. My wife's family is from Cuba and she thinks my family's dietary
habits around holidays are really bizzare.


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Colette Goodyear

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Dec 8, 1992, 1:25:05 PM12/8/92
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>>>Does anyone else have any Superstitions
>>>as to what to eat or not on New Years????
>>>
>>> Pam B.

Well, as part of New Year's...

It's not Christmas or New Year's unless the mummers have been by
the house sometime over the 12 days of Christmas. And you have
to reward the mummers with a bit of Christmas cake and rum/wine/
brandy or syrup. On Twelfth Night, you have a Twelfth Night
cake with tokens baked inside. Find a ring, you'll be married
within the year. Find a coin, you'll prosper in the coming year.

Christmas Eve, the traditional meal in some Newfoundland
households is salt herring and boiled
potatoes. You can hear the belches all over the house the rest
of the night. :^)

Someone else has already mentioned first-footing.

Colette Goodyear
col...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca

jon...@ur.msstate.edu

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Dec 8, 1992, 4:40:15 PM12/8/92
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Well, I've lived in the South all my life and never heard
about the pinto beans for luck on New Year's Day. Everyone I know
has always eaten black-eyed peas. You're supposed to (technically,
I think) eat ham hocks, too, but we usually eat pork chops. It's
a pea/ham thing.

Kay Jones



sa...@albnyvms.bitnet

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Dec 9, 1992, 9:15:18 PM12/9/92
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What are "Mummers"???
Reward them for doing what?
And what is a Twelfth night cake? Can I have the recipe?
(I was invited to a 12th night party, although I have no
idea what 12th night is... Something to do with Xmas, I think)

Sarah

Silvana Roncagliolo

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Dec 10, 1992, 5:03:32 PM12/10/92
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In article <1g06hb...@bigboote.WPI.EDU> dr...@wpi.WPI.EDU (Deborah M Riel) writes:
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>In my family, we always had to eat lentils on New Year's Day for good
>health and prosperity. My parents were both from Philadelphia, so
>maybe this is a Pennsylvania custom?
>
>Debbie

I am from Chile, and my mother always made us eat lentils so that
they would bring us money.

We would also eat 12 grapes, one for each month of the new year,
while you eat them you should say 'this one is for <month>'
meaning that everything goes really well that month.

Someone else mentined wearing new red panties in new years' eve,
I new this but with them being yellow not red;
and also they must be a gift, you can't buy them for yourself,
so everybody can take one and then interchange presents.
This will bring you good luck.

This are things that my mom does, but over there I know just a few
other people that do this kind of things.

silvana

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Elizabeth Molinaro

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Dec 10, 1992, 9:46:09 AM12/10/92
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In article <1992Dec5.0...@sarah.albany.edu> la1...@albnyvms.bitnet
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>Don't forget to wear New Red Panties on New Years' Eve!!!
>(I think that's Italian)
>
>Clover, who usually forgets her red panties


YES! It is! And if you had ever gone to Italy during the
New Year's season, you'd never forget your red panties again.

Red panties here and red panties there...in lingerie shops
(which, themselves are ubiquitous), in department stores,
in grocery stores and gift shops, but mainly IN THE WINDOWS
of everywhere.

Rather festive, actually.

` Ciao!

sa...@albnyvms.bitnet

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Dec 11, 1992, 1:39:57 AM12/11/92
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How does everyone know everyone elses size for the panties?

Sarah, who would NEVER divulge such TOP-SECRET information!

Colette Goodyear

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Dec 11, 1992, 2:08:01 PM12/11/92
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I've already replied to the other questions by private e-mail. But
here's the twelfth night cake recipe:

KING'S CAKE (TWELFTH NIGHT CAKE)

1 package active dry yeast
1/2 cup granulated sugar
1/4 cup likewarm water
4 to 4 1/2 cups all-purpose flour
2 teaspoons salt
1/2 tsp. freshly ground nutmeg
2 tsp. freshly grated lemon peel
3/4 cup milk
5 large egg yolks
8 tbsp unsalted butter, softened
2/3 cup finely chopped citron (dried, mixed peel)
1 egg yolk, beaten (for a wash)

Stir the yeast and 1/2 tsp of the sugar into the lukewarm water. Let
the mixture stand until it foams, about 4 to 6 minutes.

In a large bowl, combine the remaining sugar, 4 cups of the flour, salt
nutmeg, lemon peel, milk, egg yolks, butter and yeast mixture. Stir
all the ingredients together until well-mixed. Remove the dough
from the bowl and place on a lightly-floured work surface.

Knead the dough for about 15-20 minutes until smooth and elastic.
When necessary, sprinkle the dough with enough flour to keep it
from sticking.

Place the dough in a large buttered bowl and turn to coat it with
butter.
Cover the bowl with plastic wrap or a towel and let the dough rise
for about an hour or until double in size.

Transfer the dough to the work surface and gently knead the citron
into it, just until the citron is well-incorporated.

Return the dough to the bowl as before and let it rise for 45 minutes
to 1 hour until double in size.

Punch the dough down in the bowl, transfer to work surface and shape it
into a 14-16 inch long cylinder. Add your lucky tokens at this point,
pushing them into the dough until completely encased. Place the
cylinder on a buttered and floured cookie sheet and shape into a ring.
Brush with the egg yolk. Let the cake rise again for about 1 hour.
(Note: I don't know _why_ there are three risings. I haven't tried
it with two, but feel free to. Please let me know what happens.)

Bake cake in preheated 375 degree oven for 35 to 45 minutes. Let cool
on wire rack.

Time-consuming and there's a fair amount of work to it but the results
are worth it. Twelfth Night Cake is traditionally served on
Twelfth Night (what else?) also called Old Christmas Day, or
Feast of the Epiphany, which is held on January 6th. The tokens
inside will indicate what the year will bring--a coin indicates
wealth, a ring, marriage. Some families hide only one token--
usually a large nut--in the cake. Whoever finds it is "king for
a day" as it were and all their whims are carried out. This probably
has something to do with the medieaval custom of the Lord of
Misrule, but I couldn't swear to it.

Colette Goodyear
col...@morgan.ucs.mun.ca

Leah Surber

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In article <1g06hb...@bigboote.WPI.EDU> dr...@wpi.WPI.EDU (Deborah M Riel)
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>In my family, we always had to eat lentils on New Year's Day for good
>health and prosperity. My parents were both from Philadelphia, so
>maybe this is a Pennsylvania custom?
>

In western Pa we used to have pork and saurkraut - we were also supposed
to run around the house with a fork full of the kraut.

L.
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Peggy Shambo

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Dec 12, 1992, 2:46:00 PM12/12/92
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That reminds me of the red corset/Christmas stocking my (ex) hubby bought me
one year. I still have it and put it up for Christmas every year.

Jazzie

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kay.a.akins

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Dec 14, 1992, 12:50:50 PM12/14/92
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My neighbor, who is of Irish and Italian decent, insists everyone
eat cold peas and herring at midnight on New Year's Eve. One
is for good health and the other for wealth - not sure which is which!

Jeff Shearer

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Dec 14, 1992, 7:36:52 PM12/14/92
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My mother is from Missippi and our family tradition is to eat black-eyed
peas and cornbread on New Year's Eve. If you do this, you won't have
anything less on the table for the rest of the year.

sophia hwang

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Dec 13, 1992, 9:40:49 PM12/13/92
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in texas, we always had black eyed peas. not pinto's for good luck on new
years. course, can't tell if texas is considered south, southwest, or just
plain old texas...it's like a whole other country! ;)


soph


Tracy Hoover

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Dec 15, 1992, 9:55:06 AM12/15/92
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I read in "Bill Neal's Southern Cooking" that collard greens and hoppin' john
are traditionally eaten on New Year's Day to bring wealth for the coming
year. The collard greens represent bills, and the hoppin' john (black-eyed
peas and rice) represent pocket change.
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Jim Heath

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Dec 15, 1992, 4:53:34 PM12/15/92
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From article <1992Dec15.0...@serval.net.wsu.edu>, by jshe...@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Jeff Shearer):

Mom always tried to have corned beef and cabbage, but I think that was an
Easter thing.
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Landen Bain

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Dec 15, 1992, 6:26:35 PM12/15/92
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My German grandmother always had pork and sauerkraut. The sauerkraut,
because it is aged, is eaten for old time's sake. The pork is eaten
because it is (supposedly) the only animal that can't look back over its
shoulder, and hence represents looking to the future.

Landen from Duke.

Bill Maniatty

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Dec 15, 1992, 9:13:32 PM12/15/92
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The Pennsylvania Dutch (really of German stock) eat pork and sauerkraut for
the traditional New Years dinner.

Bill

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Gary Heston

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Dec 15, 1992, 9:29:28 PM12/15/92
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jshe...@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Jeff Shearer) writes:

> My mother is from Missippi and our family tradition is to eat black-eyed
> peas and cornbread on New Year's Eve. If you do this, you won't have
> anything less on the table for the rest of the year.

I'd like a filet mignon with that, please.....

:-)

Gary Heston, at home....
ga...@cdthq.uucp

Will Martin on 9000

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Dec 16, 1992, 2:43:24 PM12/16/92
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Around here, in St. Louis, in a family of German heritage, it is the
pickled herring mentioned by a couple other posters already. I don't
think it mattered if it is creamed or "straight" in "wine sauce" (as the
labels say). I think the stores here sell more pickled herring between
Christmas and New Years than in the rest of the year put together.

To those who are in the pickled herring tradition -- what region and
national origin are you?

Will

steve hix

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Dec 17, 1992, 5:12:40 PM12/17/92
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In article <921216194...@cs.utexas.edu> a...@STL-09SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin on 9000) writes:
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>To those who are in the pickled herring tradition -- what region and
>national origin are you?

California. I'm Scots/Irish and my wife is Chinese. I and my youngest
daughter like the pickled herring, the rest of the family tolerate us.

Does this count?

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Doris Woods

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Dec 21, 1992, 1:08:01 PM12/21/92
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In article <921216194...@cs.utexas.edu> a...@STL-09SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin on 9000) writes:

Well we come from Minnesota but my Mom's family is Irish, Swedish,
Iroquois, and I think maybe Scottish. But the pickled herring is definitely
a big tradition for her.

Doris

bruce bowser

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Dec 31, 2022, 1:52:55 PM12/31/22
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I've never tried it. I might, someday.

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