OT: Suburbia is DYING!!

[John Kuthe]

And I knew this 30 years ago!!

That's why I got the FUCK OUT!! Of Suburbia!!

Hope y'all have FUN "out there" where ELECTRIC CARS won't suffice! ;-)

And FUCK YOU!

John Kuthe, RN, Climate Activist!

[Roy]

For Khrist's sake shut up.

[John Kuthe]

FUCK YOU!!

Don't like HEARING TRUTH?? TO FUCKING BAD!!

And it was not EVEN DINOSAUR FOOD! WAY before that!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pLQwa6SyZc

John Kuthe...

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 12:27:47 PM UTC-6, Roy wrote:
>

Like Ju-Ju, when he's not receiving the attention he thinks he deserves he will
start some looney off-topic thread to just get a rise out of people.

[Bruce]

And also: doesn't he live in suburbia?

[GM]

John's just pissed 'cuz he is forced to *still* live in the SLUM called "St. Louis"...anyone with any means at all long ago moved to the more prosperous St. Louis suburbs...

--
Best
Greg

[John Kuthe]

ROFL!!! I was BORN IN STL!!! You want to know about White Trash? Well, I GUESS you DO! After all, YOU ARE WHITE TRASH!

I do NOT want to move to any more "prosperous" stupid OVERBUILT CRAP!! All that does is make YOU FEEL IMPORTANT! HA HA! When you are NOT!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Give that man a cee-gar!!!

[John Kuthe]

On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 2:16:48 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:

STL CO is adjacent to STL CITY! And I live in a Level 1 Suburb! Adjacent to STL City!

[John Kuthe]

Barely!! I lived in STL CITY for 20+ years before my most recent move! I got the fuck OUT of Suburbia ASAP!! At 19 I moved to University City, The Delmar Loop! And had my band the Cheep Effects! And a TON of FUN!

I have NEVER BEEN A MEMBER of United Statesian lack of Culture!

[Alex]

He's off his meds. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on CNN.

[Alex]

He's your buddy. You don't know that he does?

[Bruce]

It's hard to tell just by the picture of his house. But it didn't look
like inner city or countryside or village. Doesn't that leave
suburbia? It's news to me that I'm his buddy, by the way. And to him.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 7:37:14 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:

>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
> >
> > Like Ju-Ju, when he's not receiving the attention he thinks he deserves he will
> > start some looney off-topic thread to just get a rise out of people.
>
> He's off his meds. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on CNN.
>

BIG giggle!

[Jeßus]

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 13:57:21 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe
<johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 3:21:17 PM UTC-6, itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>> On Friday, March 8, 2019 at 2:16:48 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote:
>> >
>> > On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 11:07:40 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
>> > <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > >Like Ju-Ju, when he's not receiving the attention he thinks he deserves he will
>> > >start some looney off-topic thread to just get a rise out of people.
>> >
>> > And also: doesn't he live in suburbia?
>> >
>> Give that man a cee-gar!!!
>
>Barely!! I lived in STL CITY for 20+ years before my most recent move! I got the fuck OUT of Suburbia ASAP!! At 19 I moved to University City, The Delmar Loop! And had my band the Cheep Effects! And a TON of FUN!

I've seen photos of your house. You live in suburbia.

John, would you please do me a favour and take some meth and acid at
the same time? Then post again here once the effects kick in. I'd like
to see the results, thanks.

[Cindy Hamilton]

Surrounding most cities in the U.S. is a ring of smaller towns constructed
in the first half of the 20th Century (or the late 19th Century). They
expanded to the borders of the larger city, but most retain a central
business district. They are almost indistinguishable from the adjacent
properties within the city limits. These are first-tier suburbs, which
is what John lives in.

I grew up in a second-tier suburb, built just after WW II.
Later suburbs often lack a business district. The area where I grew up
is platted into a grid of main roads every mile. For second-tier and
later suburbs, businesses cluster along these main roads while houses
are on smaller side streets laid out (first in a grid, and then in
curves and cul-de-sacs) between the main roads.

Cindy Hamilton

[Bruce]

That sounds similar to Australian cities.

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 12:46:24 AM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
...

>
> I've seen photos of your house. You live in suburbia.
>
> John, would you please do me a favour and take some meth and acid at
> the same time? Then post again here once the effects kick in. I'd like
> to see the results, thanks.

Barely! But I can get to the STL City border very quickly!

And my Real Estate has the optimum of Location, Location and Location!! 5 min walk to UMSL one way, 5 min walk to the UMSL South Metrolink station the other! and a 5min drive to STL International Airport, which BTW IS part of STL CITY!! Due to STUPID STL POLITICS!

John Kuthe...

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 5:37:25 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

>
> Surrounding most cities in the U.S. is a ring of smaller towns constructed
> in the first half of the 20th Century (or the late 19th Century). They
> expanded to the borders of the larger city, but most retain a central
> business district. They are almost indistinguishable from the adjacent
> properties within the city limits. These are first-tier suburbs, which
> is what John lives in.

I LIVE wherever I at at the moment!

> I grew up in a second-tier suburb,

Yep, true, you "grew up"! Bummer for YOU!

> built just after WW II.
> Later suburbs often lack a business district. The area where I grew up
> is platted into a grid of main roads every mile. For second-tier and
> later suburbs, businesses cluster along these main roads while houses
> are on smaller side streets laid out (first in a grid, and then in
> curves and cul-de-sacs) between the main roads.

And the SUBURBS were designed to USE PETROLEUM!!! Require Fire Belching Internal Combustion Engine 2nd Industrial Revolution FARTMOBILES! Why do you think Chevy named its largest most WASTEFUL vehicle the "Suburban"?

Well children, we are now in the 3rd Industrial REVOLUTION!!! And I burn NO Petroleum!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snsb3Pc_C4M&t=201s

Your 2nd Industrial Revolution CRAP is GOING AWAY! YOU are our past, I am OUR FUTURE!!

[Cindy Hamilton]

I don't consider a 5-minute drive to an airport to be a good thing. I
once lived a 10-minute drive from a cargo airport and it was plenty
noisy. A 30-minute drive to DTW is just about right.

Cindy Hamilton

[Cindy Hamilton]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 8:22:24 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 5:37:25 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> ...
> >
> > Surrounding most cities in the U.S. is a ring of smaller towns constructed
> > in the first half of the 20th Century (or the late 19th Century). They
> > expanded to the borders of the larger city, but most retain a central
> > business district. They are almost indistinguishable from the adjacent
> > properties within the city limits. These are first-tier suburbs, which
> > is what John lives in.
>
> I LIVE wherever I at at the moment!
>
>
> > I grew up in a second-tier suburb,
>
> Yep, true, you "grew up"! Bummer for YOU!
>
>
> > built just after WW II.
> > Later suburbs often lack a business district. The area where I grew up
> > is platted into a grid of main roads every mile. For second-tier and
> > later suburbs, businesses cluster along these main roads while houses
> > are on smaller side streets laid out (first in a grid, and then in
> > curves and cul-de-sacs) between the main roads.
>
> And the SUBURBS were designed to USE PETROLEUM!!! Require Fire Belching Internal Combustion Engine 2nd Industrial Revolution FARTMOBILES! Why do you think Chevy named its largest most WASTEFUL vehicle the "Suburban"?
>
> Well children, we are now in the 3rd Industrial REVOLUTION!!! And I burn NO Petroleum!!

But you cause plenty of other people to burn petroleum for you. Hypocrite.

Cindy Hamilton

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 3/9/2019 8:13 AM, John Kuthe wrote:

>
> And my Real Estate has the optimum of Location, Location and Location!! 5 min walk to UMSL one way, 5 min walk to the UMSL South Metrolink station the other! and a 5min drive to STL International Airport, which BTW IS part of STL CITY!! Due to STUPID STL POLITICS!
>
> John Kuthe...
>

Once AOC gets the Green New Deal passed the airport will be eliminated.
No more fuel wasting airplanes.

[John Kuthe]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 7:28:01 AM UTC-6, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
...

> But you cause plenty of other people to burn petroleum for you. Hypocrite.
>
> Cindy Hamilton

How do you reason that out? Most all humans in industrial areas burn LOTS of petroleum!

ALL of us who live in RICH nations burn petroleum ALL THE TIME!! Which is one chagrins Greta Thunberg so badly!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjsLm5PCdVQ

And ME TOO! She was and like me could probably be diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome! But as Greta said, I think WE are the "normal" ones who just cut out all the UNimportant HUMAN DRAMA CRAP and stick with ONLY the IMPORTANT STUFF!

Like DON'T KILL OUR PLANET, please!!

John Kuthe...

[GM]

Yup...those Indian roomies of his had to FLY over here on JETS that used PETROLEUM which in doing so POLLUTED Mudder Urth...!!!

--
Best
Greg

[Cindy Hamilton]

You could reduce your petroleum usage by foregoing things such as
coffee, chocolate, and out-of-season fruit.

Cindy Hamilton

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-09 8:25 a.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:

> I don't consider a 5-minute drive to an airport to be a good thing. I
> once lived a 10-minute drive from a cargo airport and it was plenty
> noisy. A 30-minute drive to DTW is just about right.

It might depend on the life you lead and ambient noise. Aircraft are a
lot quieter than they used to be. If you travel a lot, proximity to an
airport would be handy. If you live in an air conditioned apartment you
may never hear the aircraft. When we visited with our niece who was
living in Tallinn Estonia their house was less than 10 minutes from the
airport and noise was not a problem.

When I stayed in a resort hotel in Newport Beach we were about 8 miles
from the airport and right on the flight path for planes taking off. We
could not hear them when we were inside and they were not particularly
overwhelming outside. That is a lot different from when I was a kid. We
lived about 20 miles from the Malton airport, now Pearson International.
We could hear the planes taking off. We would hear planes pretty much
all day long. Those old airplanes could be heard for miles and miles.
These days I look up and see jet planes going past and I don't hear a
thing.

[U.S. Janet B.]

yeah, I hear that's going to happen in my lifetime, maybe

[Gary]

Ed Pawlowski wrote:
>
> Once AOC gets the Green New Deal passed the airport will be eliminated.
> No more fuel wasting airplanes.

I think airports and passenger jets should be shunned and avoided
anyway. All you ever see on the news is thousands of people
stranded for days in airports. And the planes don't even serve
good meals now either.

And traveling across the country just to spend a few holidays
with family or whatever. Idiots. And especially idiots because so
many of them miss the family and spend the holiday sleeping on
the floor in an airport. LOL

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-09 10:40 a.m., Gary wrote:

> I think airports and passenger jets should be shunned and avoided
> anyway. All you ever see on the news is thousands of people
> stranded for days in airports. And the planes don't even serve
> good meals now either.
>
> And traveling across the country just to spend a few holidays
> with family or whatever. Idiots. And especially idiots because so
> many of them miss the family and spend the holiday sleeping on
> the floor in an airport. LOL

I was in the locker room at the Y a couple years ago when one of the
guys was talking about having just returned from a wedding in Vancouver.
One of the younger guys started hassling him about the waste of fuel
to fly all the way out there for a wedding. The old guy said that they
didn't go just for the wedding, that they had stayed out there for a
couple weeks. The younger guy was such a hypocrite. I had noted some
oddities about him and his lack of eco awareness. First of all, he is
single and drives a big car. He drives his car to the gym even though
he lives about 1/2 mile away. They have free towels in the men's locker
room and the guy uses 3-4 towels when he showers. He showers for 10
minutes or more, and when he is all done he uses the free aerosol
deodorant on his entire body. I would not be surprised if he used more
than half a can of the stuff after each shower.

His hypocrisy ranks up there with Kuthe's.

[dsi1]

My guess is that the passenger planes of the future will not be burning jet fuel. They will be electric and very clean and economical to run.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 11:10:45 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2019-03-09 10:40 a.m., Gary wrote:
>
>> I think airports and passenger jets should be shunned and avoided
>> anyway. All you ever see on the news is thousands of people
>> stranded for days in airports. And the planes don't even serve
>> good meals now either.
>>
>> And traveling across the country just to spend a few holidays
>> with family or whatever. Idiots. And especially idiots because so
>> many of them miss the family and spend the holiday sleeping on
>> the floor in an airport. LOL
>
>I was in the locker room at the Y a couple years ago

Oh God, here he goes again.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 9:41:00 AM UTC-6, Gary wrote:
>
> I think airports and passenger jets should be shunned and avoided
> anyway. All you ever see on the news is thousands of people
> stranded for days in airports. And the planes don't even serve
> good meals now either.
>
> And traveling across the country just to spend a few holidays
> with family or whatever. Idiots. And especially idiots because so
> many of them miss the family and spend the holiday sleeping on
> the floor in an airport. LOL
>

I am of the age that anything over 300 miles I will fly there. Gone are the
days of riding in a car for 10-12 hours to get somewhere and call it a vacation.

[Alex]

Agreed. I'm 20 minutes or 16 miles from FLL and it's usually quiet
until the winds change direction and the planes all have to land from
the west. It's not noticeable indoors but outside we can see and hear
them making the hard turn to the east.

[Alex]

That's way off. Batteries are heavy. Jet fuel is also heavy but as it
burns the aircraft gets lighter and more efficient.

I'm sure all of the dead lithium batteries that are tossed in the trash
are not very good for the environment either. I'll take global warming
over the loss of fresh, clean, water.

[Alex]

300 miles is closer to 5 hours, however I agree with you on that
number. A 300 mile flight takes just over an hour. Add the travel time
to the airport and the time in security, boarding, deplaning, etc. and
you are looking at about four hours on a good day. If you have to rent
a car at your destination you are better off driving. If you don't, then
flying is the way to go.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 20:45:54 -0500, Alex <Xel...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 8:13:11 AM UTC-5, John Kuthe wrote:
>>> On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 12:46:24 AM UTC-6, Jeßus wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> I've seen photos of your house. You live in suburbia.
>>>>
>>>> John, would you please do me a favour and take some meth and acid at
>>>> the same time? Then post again here once the effects kick in. I'd like
>>>> to see the results, thanks.
>>> Barely! But I can get to the STL City border very quickly!
>>>
>>> And my Real Estate has the optimum of Location, Location and Location!! 5 min walk to UMSL one way, 5 min walk to the UMSL South Metrolink station the other! and a 5min drive to STL International Airport, which BTW IS part of STL CITY!! Due to STUPID STL POLITICS!
>>>
>>> John Kuthe...
>> I don't consider a 5-minute drive to an airport to be a good thing. I
>> once lived a 10-minute drive from a cargo airport and it was plenty
>> noisy. A 30-minute drive to DTW is just about right.
>>
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
>Agreed. I'm 20 minutes or 16 miles from FLL

FLorida Land?

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Saturday, March 9, 2019 at 8:31:58 PM UTC-6, Alex wrote:
>
> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>

> 300 miles is closer to 5 hours, however I agree with you on that
> number. A 300 mile flight takes just over an hour. Add the travel time
> to the airport and the time in security, boarding, deplaning, etc. and
> you are looking at about four hours on a good day. If you have to rent
> a car at your destination you are better off driving. If you don't, then
> flying is the way to go.
>

M-a-n-y years ago b/f and I flew, non-stop, to Las Vegas and it was a 4 hour
flight. Five days and four nights on the strip with a rental car was $500 a piece. We'd made that trip twice before, once in a motorhome and once in a car.
That was a 2 1/2 day trip, one way, and some sort of vehicle trouble both times.
GRRRRRRRRRR

Not a clue what that flight, hotel, and rental car would cost now but it was
money WELL spent that time.

[dsi1]

That's what most people believe. I don't.

[Dave Smith]

On 2019-03-09 9:31 p.m., Alex wrote:

> itsjoan...@webtv.net wrote:
>am of the age that anything over 300 miles I will fly there.  Gone
>> are the
>> days of riding in a car for 10-12 hours to get somewhere and call it a
>> vacation.
>
> 300 miles is closer to 5 hours, however I agree with you on that
> number.  A 300 mile flight takes just over an hour.  Add the travel time
> to the airport and the time in security, boarding, deplaning, etc. and
> you are looking at about four hours on a good day.  If you have to rent
> a car at your destination you are better off driving. If you don't, then
> flying is the way to go.

If it is one person travelling 300 miles there may not be much time
saved. If two people are travelling the same distance there is no
significant extract cost for fuel when going by car, but if by air you
are looking at double the air fare.

[Bruce]

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 19:30:22 -0800 (PST), dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net>

When it comes to the environment, there are 2 camps: the western world
and the barbarians. It would be disastrous if the biggest western
country would side with the barbarians.

[Alex]

It's about time - not money.