OT - Woot Refurbished vs Reconditioned

[Nunya Bidnits]

Pursuant to a discussion here about refurbed Dysons from Woot, I
sent them a question about the difference between items marked
Reconditioned vs Refurbished. After reading this you might have
second thoughts about anything marked "reconditioned".

MartyB

-----Original Message-----
From: Woot.Com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 8:53 AM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: A message from Woot Customer Service

Hello,

Below is a brief explanation of the difference. Please let us
know if you have any other questions.


1) Factory Reconditioned/Reconditioned

Items such as computers, printers, cell phones, and industrial
equipment are often leased by companies in order to acquire the
machines they need at a lower cost. This is done by replacing
worn components, chassis, and testing the product fully.
Reconditioning has less to do with repair, than it does with
replacing parts that commonly need to be updated. This can be
done by two catagories of companies:

Factory Authorized - This is where either the factory
itself, or a certified outsource firm reconditions these
products by company standards for resale.
Reseller Recondition - This is where an items was been
purchased from the original company and reconditioned in-house,
but is not certified or trained by the original manufacturer.

2) Factory Refurbished/Refurbished

Every year, over $100 Billion worth of products are returned to
big box retailers due to either blemish, or functionality
issues. This is common with items such as computers, laptops,
or other consumer electronics. This catagory of work has less
to do with replacing worn out parts, and more to do with
repairing a damaged items. These returned items are often sold
to outside companies who take on the responsibility to resell
them after repairing them. These company then refurbish the
items by finding the problem with the item and repairing it and
replacing worn parts. This can be done one of two ways:

Factory Authorized/Certified Refurbishment - Some companies
have technicians that are certified to repair of refurbish a
product by the original manufacturer. This is most commonly
found in the computer catagory. This means the item they sell
has been repaired or refurbished by someone with specific
knowledge of the product from the company itself.
In House Refurbishment - Some companies that resell
refurbished goods have technicians that can repair these items,
however are not certified. This means that while they may have
repaired the item, it also may mean that the technician does not
have specific training on that product line or brand. While
this does not mean that someone who is certified is a better
technician than the non-certified repairer, it does indicate the
level of training involved.

Regards,
Nicholas
Woot Member Services

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Thanks for the reply. But specifically, is there a difference
between refurbished and factory reconditioned? For example the
Shark vacuum today is not refurbished, it is factory
reconditioned. Is that different from being refurbished in your
lexicon?



-----Original Message-----
From: Woot.Com
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 5:40 PM
To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: A message from Woot Customer Service

Refurbished covers everything from buyers remorse returns and
products whose defects have been repaired by the pros to damaged
packaging and discontinued items.
If you can accept their checkered past, refurbs have a lot love
to give.

Regards,
Rich
Woot Member Services

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Username: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Email: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Topic: I wanna know more about warranties!

Can you tell me specifically what can be expected if merchandise
is marked refurbished or reconditioned? Is there a difference?

[Steve Freides]

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Pursuant to a discussion here about refurbed Dysons from Woot, I
> sent them a question about the difference between items marked
> Reconditioned vs Refurbished. After reading this you might have
> second thoughts about anything marked "reconditioned".
>
> MartyB

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> Can you tell me specifically what can be expected if merchandise
> is marked refurbished or reconditioned? Is there a difference?

I took a manufacturer's computer training course once a few decades ago,
when I worked in that field. At the time, the company told us their
refurbished parts were better than new - the refurbs were tested much
more thoroughly than the new parts, some of which got no testing at all
but rather were just assumed to be OK because they were new.

-S-

[Boron Elgar]

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 14:35:27 -0500, "Nunya Bidnits"
<nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid> wrote:

>Pursuant to a discussion here about refurbed Dysons from Woot, I
>sent them a question about the difference between items marked
>Reconditioned vs Refurbished. After reading this you might have
>second thoughts about anything marked "reconditioned".
>

Interesting. Thanks for tracking down the info.

I have never bought anything listed as " reconditioned," as it has
always implied "used" to me. This was just an impression I had with
nothing to back it up. I many not have been 100% correct, but this
confirms my choices over the years.

[John Kuthe]

On Thu, 17 Sep 2015 20:56:26 -0400, "Steve Freides" <st...@kbnj.com>
wrote:

Yeah, a cheap Chinese JUNK manufacting plant in China is NOT gonna
test every unit. They evidently didn't on that backup cheap Chinese
JUNK coffee grinder I had that failed to work electrically right out
of the box, new!

John Kuthe...

[Nunya Bidnits]

Nunya Bidnits wrote:
> Pursuant to a discussion here about refurbed Dysons from Woot

I'm done with you now, shithead. That is, unless you want more.

And unless you decide to resume making personal attacks on people who are
trying to discuss reasonable things. A little good natured banter between
rivals is fine, but you cannot seem to understand why it's offensive to
invade other forums and turn on a tirade of hateful personal attacks on
individuals. So if you go that route again, I'll be back on your ass, with
Goatboy, Ronald, and a bunch more tasty morsels. And go ahead and post all
the stupid shit you want in the Chiefs forums... you're not getting any
action because they are too smart to take your juvenile bait.... and
besides, yuou're just not funny.

Now please refrain from being an asshole and I will do the same.... or not,
your choice.

Besides, I can be a much bigger asshole than you when provoked, so do the
smart thing while you have this one opportunity at a truce.

MBKC

[Nunya Bidnits]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!

[Nunya Bidnits]

Now fuck off and die, you phony little pussy, and next time you decide to
start flinging shit at people outside your own back yard, try to prepare
your freeble little mind for the fact that you need to be willing to take
what you dish out, because someone may do the same thing back at you.

Now please refrain from being an asshole and I will do the same.... or not,
your choice.

[cshenk]

Nunya Bidnits wrote in rec.food.cooking:

> From: Nunya Bidnits <nunyab...@eternal-september.invalid>
> Subject: Re: OT - Woot Refurbished vs Reconditioned
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This was probably not from NB

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[Nunya Bidnits]

[cshenk]

Nunya Bidnits wrote in rec.food.cooking:

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[Sqwertz]

Needless to say, you need to come to terms with what happened and why
your mind works that way and stop making up excuses for your fixation
and disappointment before we become the next Yoli and Michael. I'd
prefer you use a sniper rifle on me from a few hundred yards away.
There you go - a reason for you to buy yet another gun and ammo.

And Jeremy, I was just tired of your decade of bullshit and visions of
grandeur about all these things you're "working on" or have not done
in the past. Even posting a call for meetings with imaginary people
about imaginary projects of yours at "the normal time and place", as
if you are somebody important with a life. I'm pretty sure you're
manic depressive mixed with habitual liar.

Sorry I don't fit either of your Ideal Psycho Pal Profiles.

-sw

[Nunya Bidnits]

Je�us wrote:

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> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:54:10 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
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> Sigh, I give up.
>

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2011/04/03/sausage-stuffed-penis-pancakes/

Oh Marrty!!!!!!

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 9/18/2015 7:21 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:

>
> Interesting. Thanks for tracking down the info.
>
> I have never bought anything listed as " reconditioned," as it has
> always implied "used" to me. This was just an impression I had with
> nothing to back it up. I many not have been 100% correct, but this
> confirms my choices over the years.
>
>

In some cases you are correct. It was used or damaged. OTOH, I told
the story before how some merchandise is perfectly new, good, tested,
but marked refurbished to sell at outlet stores. I've seen this first
hand at a few companies I visited.

As an aside, the same goes for many things sold with different model
numbers. Staples may carry one number, Best Buy another, identical but
for some added accessory.

[Boron Elgar]

On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:42:22 -0400, Ed Pawlowski <e...@snet.net> wrote:

>On 9/18/2015 7:21 AM, Boron Elgar wrote:
>
>>
>> Interesting. Thanks for tracking down the info.
>>
>> I have never bought anything listed as " reconditioned," as it has
>> always implied "used" to me. This was just an impression I had with
>> nothing to back it up. I many not have been 100% correct, but this
>> confirms my choices over the years.
>>
>>
>
>In some cases you are correct. It was used or damaged. OTOH, I told
>the story before how some merchandise is perfectly new, good, tested,
>but marked refurbished to sell at outlet stores. I've seen this first
>hand at a few companies I visited.

Yup. This gets around MSRP price breaking and soothes retailers who
keep to such things.

>As an aside, the same goes for many things sold with different model
>numbers. Staples may carry one number, Best Buy another, identical but
>for some added accessory.

And makes price comparisons tricky, which is its goal, I believe.

[Nunya Bidnits]

On 9/19/2015 4:37 AM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:54:10 -0500, "cshenk" <csh...@cox.net> wrote:
>

> You're worse than the idiot! You DO realise you are working for it ?
>


STFU!

[Nunya Bidnits]

On 9/19/2015 4:32 AM, lucreti...@fl.it wrote:

> For gods sake, do you think we are all idiots? All you are doing is
> giving the troll satisfaction. You're as bad as him/her/it now.
>

Carol is as smart as her old dogs, and twice as smelly.