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How long do Miniature bottles of spirits last?

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jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:51:58 AM8/23/08
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I don't know if this is the right group, but after searching Google
groups, there is a lot of 'alcohol' talk in this forum.

I used to travel for a living and fly 'Business Class'.. I had this
obsession about collecting 'Miniatures' and used to come back from my
trips with anything from 5-30 bottles (depending on how friends the
stewardess's were).

The problem is that I didn't drink spirts and used to use them up when
friends came over.. At an estimate, at the high point, I had over 300
bottles, but now its down to around 50.

I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Cognac and port left.

The problem is that they are now old.. VERY old and I want to use them
up... Are they still OK?

They are mostly in plastic bottles, (although the coniac is glass),
the seals are intact and there is no sign of evaporation in most (some
appear to have lost a few ml's over the years).

I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Drambuie, Cointreau Cognac and
Port left and they look fine, other than the port.

Should I use them or bin them?

Jon

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Stan Horwitz

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Aug 23, 2008, 7:18:00 AM8/23/08
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<98528ab0-60a6-46a7...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>,
jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk wrote:

Taste them. You can use them in cooking if you like them, rather then
drink them in a cocktail or straight. They should last a few decades if
properly sealed. The worst that can happen is they turn to vinegar.

Vilco

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Aug 23, 2008, 8:20:48 AM8/23/08
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jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk wrote

> They are mostly in plastic bottles, (although the coniac is glass),
> the seals are intact and there is no sign of evaporation in most
(some
> appear to have lost a few ml's over the years).
>
> I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Drambuie, Cointreau Cognac and
> Port left and they look fine, other than the port.
>
> Should I use them or bin them?

With about 40% alcohol in them, they are almost ethernal.
Use them without doubts.
--
Vilco
Think pink, drink rose'


Julia Altshuler

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Aug 23, 2008, 9:08:38 AM8/23/08
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The Kat wrote:
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> Unopened, they last YEARS,
> probably longer than most of us who have them will!


This is true. The only exception I've found is Bailey's Irish Cream.
That one has a shelf life.


The rum, vodka, whiskey, drambuie, cointreau, and cognac will last
forever. I'm not sure what you mean by martini. Here, a martini is a
mixed drink, not something sold in a bottle.


As you noted, the port might go bad. It might not, but it might.


--Lia

TFM®

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Aug 23, 2008, 11:36:29 AM8/23/08
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<jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk> wrote in message
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Send them to me for proper disposal immediately!

Seriously, they're ok. You could pass them on to your great grandchildren
and they'd be fine.


TFM®

Gloria P

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Aug 23, 2008, 1:14:28 PM8/23/08
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jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk wrote:
> I don't know if this is the right group, but after searching Google
> groups, there is a lot of 'alcohol' talk in this forum.

>

> I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Drambuie, Cointreau Cognac and
> Port left and they look fine, other than the port.
>
> Should I use them or bin them?
>
> Jon

If you can't use them for cooking, GIVE THEM AWAY to someone who
will appreciate them.

gloria p

Steve Pope

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Aug 23, 2008, 3:12:02 PM8/23/08
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Vilco <a...@b.invalid> wrote:

>jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk wrote

The official shelf life of bottled water in plastic is six months.

There is undoubtedly some migration of bad stuff (bisphenyls,
pthalates) from the plastic into the spirits. I would expect
the problem to be worse than with bottled water since alcohol
is a good solvent. I would also expect it to be worse
since the bottle are so small, therefore have a greater
ratio of surface area to volume. On the upside, you are
not consuming as much of this as you might bottled water.

Bottom line is six months max.

Steve

jmcquown

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Aug 23, 2008, 4:42:11 PM8/23/08
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Steve Pope wrote:
> Vilco <a...@b.invalid> wrote:
>
>> jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk wrote
>
>>> They are mostly in plastic bottles, (although the coniac is glass),
>>> the seals are intact and there is no sign of evaporation in most
>>> (some appear to have lost a few ml's over the years).
>
>>> I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Drambuie, Cointreau Cognac and
>>> Port left and they look fine, other than the port.
>
>>> Should I use them or bin them?
>
>> With about 40% alcohol in them, they are almost ethernal.
>> Use them without doubts.
>
> The official shelf life of bottled water in plastic is six months.
>
Bottled water? The OP is talking about booze.

Jill

BOB

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Aug 23, 2008, 4:49:07 PM8/23/08
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"jmcquown" <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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And last time I checked, those miniature booze bottles were glass, not
plastic.

BOB


Andy

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Aug 23, 2008, 4:51:22 PM8/23/08
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jmcquown said...


Have an airplane bottle of Grand Marnier on the kitchen windowsill for
about five years. Someday to be added to French toast, according to a few
web recipes.

Andy

TFM®

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:04:26 PM8/23/08
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" BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote in message
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Check again.


TFM®

BOB

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:10:41 PM8/23/08
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"TFM®" <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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Well, the three different brands that I bought Wednesday as gifts were
glass. I'll pay more attention next time I'm in the Booze store.

But...the original post was about some very old miniatures. I'm betting
that they're all glass.

BOB


Steve Pope

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:29:15 PM8/23/08
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jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net> wrote:

>Steve Pope wrote:

>> The official shelf life of bottled water in plastic is six months.

>Bottled water? The OP is talking about booze.

Yeah, but we're talking about aqueous liquids in plastic,
in either case, so the considerations are similar.

In any event, "indefinite" shelf life is not correct.

Steve

Steve Pope

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:30:04 PM8/23/08
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BOB <a...@defg.com> wrote:

>And last time I checked, those miniature booze bottles were glass, not
>plastic.

The OP said mostly plastic.

I agree the glass ones are fine, indefinitely.

Steve

TFM®

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Aug 23, 2008, 5:54:08 PM8/23/08
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" BOB" <a...@defg.com> wrote in message

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It doesn't matter. The OP has 50 vials of potentially hazardous material
and it needs to be sent to a Florida collection center immediately!

The urgency of this matter cannot be overstated!

I am well trained in the disposal of said material, as are you. Let's work
together to make this country a safe place to live again.


TFM®

Mark Thorson

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:37:38 PM8/23/08
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Steve Pope wrote:
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> The official shelf life of bottled water in plastic is six months.

But for what reason? It could be flavor changes caused
by dissolved gases exchanging with atmospheric gases
by diffusing through the bottle.

> There is undoubtedly some migration of bad stuff (bisphenyls,
> pthalates) from the plastic into the spirits. I would expect
> the problem to be worse than with bottled water since alcohol
> is a good solvent. I would also expect it to be worse
> since the bottle are so small, therefore have a greater
> ratio of surface area to volume. On the upside, you are
> not consuming as much of this as you might bottled water.

Depending how old they are, you can check whether it has
bisphenol-A:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A#Identification_in_plastics

And phthalate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phthalate#Identification_in_plastics

Other than those ones, plastics used for food contact purposes
aren't going to leach harmful substances, even in contact
with a good solvent. I'm sure something will leach, but
nothing we have to worry about.

> Bottom line is six months max.

Generally speaking, phenomena like leaching follow
an exponential decay curve. I'd be surprised
if nearly all of the leachable substances had not
been leached within a few weeks. I find it
very difficult to believe there would be a significant
safety difference between six months and six years.

Corey Richardson

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:39:53 PM8/23/08
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Please don't feed the "BOB" troll!

Dimitri

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:39:26 PM8/23/08
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<jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I don't know if this is the right group, but after searching Google
> groups, there is a lot of 'alcohol' talk in this forum.


For me they last usually about 20 minutes per bottle.

Hic.

Dimitri.


BOB

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:41:07 PM8/23/08
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"TFM®" <hillbi...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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I missed the urgency. I do understand that the proper disposal site is west
southwest of me, somewhere called "Zipper Hells" or sumpin close. I hope
the OP can get them there for proper disposal.

BOB


Andy

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Aug 23, 2008, 6:47:58 PM8/23/08
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Mark Thorson said...


> Generally speaking, phenomena like leaching follow
> an exponential decay curve. I'd be surprised
> if nearly all of the leachable substances had not
> been leached within a few weeks. I find it
> very difficult to believe there would be a significant
> safety difference between six months and six years.


There are two kinds of bottled water. The flimsy frosted plastic and the
clear hard plastic containers.

The frosted cheap-o plastic jug'd water tastes almost rancid right after
opening. Deer Park (and others) in the hard clear plastic containers, despite
my price complaints, taste better.

Andy

Phred

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Aug 24, 2008, 10:02:44 AM8/24/08
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The stuff out of the tap here tastes pretty bloody good too. And at
about 55c/kilolitre it's a bit cheaper as well. (Though I believe our
new "super council" is planning to raise that by about 70% in the
coming rating period. But even 95c/kilolitre isn't too bad for a bit
to go with the Scotch -- however the lettuce may suffer a bit more. :)

Cheers, Phred.

--
ppnerk...@THISyahoo.com.INVALID

Phred

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Aug 24, 2008, 10:03:49 AM8/24/08
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That must be those large size mini bottles.

Cheers, Phred.

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Andy

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Aug 24, 2008, 10:14:44 AM8/24/08
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Phred said...


Phred,

The SA, Adelaide water was tons full of salt!!!

I could smell it showering.

No wonder (I mentioned years ago) I noticed the women there had such small
breasts because. :(((

Andy

Victor Sack

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Aug 24, 2008, 5:49:59 PM8/24/08
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<jon.p....@alcatel.co.uk> wrote:

> I have Rum, Martini, Vodka, Whisky, Drambuie, Cointreau Cognac and
> Port left and they look fine, other than the port.
>
> Should I use them or bin them?

All those spirits are likely to be just fine; port is at the very least
iffy, especially if kept at too high a temperature all these years, but
you can always check it out... it still won't be poisonous.

Victor

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