First words by thew Cheep Effects!

[John Kuthe]

"This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!

In MY sonorous voice!

And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[John Kuthe]

Sorry Calliope Kurtz! You were a major talent in OUR Cheep Effects, but YOU turned on me for some reason!

I wanted to work WITH you to publish it and make a little $$ off it too!

John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:44:04 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe <jwk...@bjc.org>
wrote:

me me me. I I I. You're the biggest narcissist on Usenet.

[Bryan Simmons]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>

You brain damaged piece of shit. You can't even quote your own words correctly.
In the recording, the word, "the," is in between "of," and "Cheep."
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
"This is a serious recording of the Cheep Effects." Your mind is dying, and it's fun
to watch.

>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>

You should have your nuts kicked in.
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

--Bryan

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 11:46:32 -0800 (PST), John Kuthe <jwk...@bjc.org>
wrote:

>On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, John Kuthe wrote:
>> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>>
>> In MY sonorous voice!
>>
>> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>>
>> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
>Sorry Calliope Kurtz! You were a major talent in OUR Cheep Effects, but YOU turned on me for some reason!

Because you're a complete lunatic? Do ya think that might have had
something to do with it?

>I wanted to work WITH you to publish it and make a little $$ off it too!

My guess is Calliope Kurtz didn't want a millstone around his neck.
Why would he want to collaborate with you?

[Bruce]

You don't understand what a narcissist is, but you're not the only one
here. Simple people are simple.

[Bruce]

Scorned lover is scorned.

[Bruce]

Signed: Jebus, Calliope Kurtz Expert

[John Kuthe]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 2:09:47 PM UTC-6, bryang...@gmail.com wrote:
...

> You should have your nuts kicked in.
> >
> > John Kuthe, RN, BSN...
>
> --Bryan

You are EVIL Bryan!

And I found all the Novelty Notebook stuff!


John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

[Bryan Simmons]

I met Craig Kurtz near the end of 7th grade. I was at my school, and it
was either after school, or on a weekend. I had my Fender Bronco and
a book with a thousand guitar chords. Craig was two years older. We
wrote a song that day. He had wandered by and saw me with the guitar,
and I composed the guitar part to his lyrics. We ended up playing in a
band for a couple of years.

Soon after we met, we discovered that we both were into Mott the
Hoople, a band most folks hadn't even heard of. That dumbass went
and signed up for the US Navy, but before he left for basic, he had met
this girl, and he told me to keep an eye on her. That's like asking the
cat to keep an eye on the canary.

Like John, Craig was kind of a failure as a man, so he briefly tried being
a woman. I was *very* surprised when he turned up here. The only thing
I can think of is that he Googled his own name and got a hit that was a
post here. I didn't have contact info, and I know that he dislikes me more
than he dislikes John. He had called me back in (I think) 2007, and when
I answered he asked, "Do you know who this is?" Even though I had no
contact with him for about 25 years, his voice was very characteristic,
and I said, Craig Kurtz. I think he wanted to shock me with his whole trans
thing, and I think that I disappointed him by not being phased. When I
tried to contact him a few years later, he ignored me, which is fine. All I
wanted to do was send him a copy of The Bonobos' CD, as we'd played in
a band together when we were teenagers.

--Bryan

[jmcquown]

He's like the Energizer Bunny (if you know what that is). He never runs
down. No one was going to sign that stupid basement band for anything.

Jill

[Bruce]

Yes. Uhm Ghe ghe ghe!

[Bryan Simmons]

Are you proposing a trade? My roach secret for scans of the
Novelty Notebook?

[Hank Rogers]

Maybe, but he will soon be mayor. And he has no roach bugs.

And, he has a 100% electric leaf!

[Hank Rogers]

And the most glabrous.

[Hank Rogers]

Nice sniff there master. Here's a paper towel ... wipe yer nose.

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:47:31 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

True. But most importantly, his nuts are glabrous.

[Hank Rogers]

I think it's the prostaglandin dik injections.

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 19:08:44 -0600, Hank Rogers <Ha...@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

Hope he enjoyed all the chilli I just had for brunch (Pad Krapao Moo
Kai Dow). https://thewoksoflife.com/pad-kra-pao/

[Bruce]

Krap moo must have been a really bad beef dish.

But anyway, don't quote the trolls. It's "unbecoming".

[GM]

Are you SURE that wasn't a " fwogger "...???

--
GM

[Bruce]

You mean Greg Sorrow?

[Gary]

There ya go, off on a tangent again.

[Bruce]

Umh, Ghe ghe ghe!

[Bruce]

On 2021-12-22 21:59:57 +0000, Bryan Simmons said:

> band together when we were teenagers.
>
> --Bryan

You and Kuthe are rockstars up there in your individual and very tiny
pin heads.

[Bruce]

Uhm, thats my frogger.

[Bruce]

Uhm, Ghe ghe ghe!

[Jeßus]

On Wed, 22 Dec 2021 17:27:28 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Manic behaviour.

[jmcquown]

Surely you're not surprised. ;) No one else gives a rip about Cheep
Effects. As teens, my brothers and I had friends who formed bands and
they all thought they were going to be the next big thing. A few of
them had some paying gigs playing at local clubs but they were NEVER
going to attract the attention of a record company. Every town is
filled with high school wanna-bees with dreams of fame. Rarely happens.

I did know this guy, though. Keith Sykes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztqt2U_niHM

and he performed this one on Saturday Night Live in the 1980's:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6ok4m2Ue40

I've been to the Sykes' home. At the time he and his wife had several
very large Great Dane dogs (four or five of them) which they kept inside
the house. It was like having small slobbering ponys wandering around
inside. LOL

He's still in Memphis and most people have still never heard of him or
his band. Oh well.

You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo

As much as John wishes Cheep Effects had done anything memorable, fact
is they didn't and his tangents won't change a thing.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:24:58 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo

I still like that song a lot.

I had an English teacher in high school who in hindsight was highly
influential on me politically, he was quite left wing and we discussed
politics in class. He was in a band, they used to perform for us in
the classroom. They eventually had a number one hit in Australia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGDhzVi1bqU

Same time and place, I used to watch these guys rehearse in a vacant
shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inKlN0ScObA They later became an
iconic Australian band. Musically not really my thing though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO4lvUHr-r0

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 11:38:02 +1100, Jeßus <j...@j.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:24:58 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>>You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>>
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo
>
>I still like that song a lot.

A good hippie song.

>I had an English teacher in high school who in hindsight was highly
>influential on me politically, he was quite left wing and we discussed
>politics in class. He was in a band, they used to perform for us in
>the classroom. They eventually had a number one hit in Australia:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGDhzVi1bqU

What happened? You went to Thailand and came back full of American
shock jock ideas?

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 12:31:20 +1100, Bruce <Br...@notreal.invalid>
wrote:

No wait, Cambodia.

[jmcquown]

On 12/23/2021 7:38 PM, Je�us wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 18:24:58 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo
>
> I still like that song a lot.
>
> I had an English teacher in high school who in hindsight was highly
> influential on me politically, he was quite left wing and we discussed
> politics in class. He was in a band, they used to perform for us in
> the classroom. They eventually had a number one hit in Australia:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGDhzVi1bqU
>

Uh, no, I'm not going to sign in and comfirm my age.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 20:44:34 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Huh??

[Bruce]

On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 20:44:34 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Would it be too confronting?

[Hank Rogers]

What about his mail order bride master?

[Hank Rogers]

Do you reckon that's why he sniffs everyone's ass hole master?

[Michael Trew]

On 12/23/2021 18:24, jmcquown wrote:
>
> You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo
>

> Jill

Ooh, another good song!

I wish I could have seen San Francisco back then. Now, you need to wear
the flower under your nose in SF, due to the smell of the homeless
defecating in the streets.

[Michael Trew]

On holiday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrm2B0lhvYc

[Bruce]

My version looks better:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3TKv7Chk4>

[Bruce]

Biden Can’t Remember What He Promised on Covid-19 Testing

On the menu today: I would prefer to send you off into the holidays with Christmas cheer, but unfortunately, the news this morning is grim. Roughly one year after Joe Biden pledged, “I’m not going to shut down the country, I’m not going to shut down the economy, I’m going to shut down the virus!” the country is experiencing new Covid-driven shutdowns, and the virus is not shut down. Biden says he wishes he had ordered 500 million tests two months ago, forgetting that he pledged to deliver 300 million tests three months ago.

Biden’s Covid-Testing Stumble

As he did during the Afghanistan-withdrawal debacle, President Biden has turned to ABC News for a formal sit-down interview to do damage control. And while the president did not indignantly bark, “That was four or five days ago, man!” he didn’t exactly put on a command performance, either:

“Three days before Christmas, if you look out across the country, you see it everywhere, these long lines, people waiting for hours outside in the cold, just to get tested, to be reassured before they spend time with their family,” Muir said. “If you go to the pharmacy, we hear this over and over again, empty shelves, no test kits. Is that a failure?”

“I don’t think it’s a failure,” Biden replied. “I think it’s — you could argue that we should have known a year ago, six months ago, two months ago, a month ago.”

“I wish I had thought about ordering” 500 million at-home tests “two months ago,” he told Muir.

That statement isn’t just the usual presidential excuse-making; it’s another sign that Biden does not remember what he said, promised, pledged, or announced earlier. Recall that Biden’s vaccine mandate gave companies the option of testing employees once a week — which was going to dramatically increase the need for Covid-19 tests. Back in his big announcement of a vaccine mandate for employers in September, Biden pledged that Americans would find Covid-19 tests plentiful and cheap, if not free:

From the start, America has failed to do enough Covid-19 testing. In order to better detect and control the Delta variant, I’m taking steps tonight to make testing more available, more affordable, and more convenient. I’ll use the Defense Production Act to increase production of rapid tests, including those that you can use at home.

While that production is ramping up, my administration has worked with top retailers, like Walmart, Amazon, and Kroger’s and tonight we’re announcing that, no later than next week, each of these outlets will start to sell at-home rapid test kits at cost for the next three months. This is an immediate price reduction for at-home test kits for up to 35 percent reduction.

We’ll also expand — expand free testing at 10,000 pharmacies around the country. And we’ll commit — we’re committing $2 billion to purchase nearly 300 million rapid tests for distribution to community health centers, food banks, schools, so that every American, no matter their income, can access free and convenient tests. This is important to everyone, particularly for a parent or a child — with a child not old enough to be vaccinated. You’ll be able to test them at home and test those around them.

And then at the beginning of this month, Biden boasted:

This winter, we are going to make free at-home tests more available to Americans than ever before. To better detect and control the Delta variant, I made testing more available, affordable, and convenient. I used the Defense Production Act to increase production of rapid tests, including at-home tests. . . for those not covered by private insurance, we’re going to make available free tests at thousands of convenient locations — locations for folks to pick them up and take a test kit home. . . .

The bottom line: This winter, you’ll be able to test for free in the comfort of your home and have some peace of mind.

But the number of test results reported nationally Tuesday was just over 1.6 million — which was about the same number of test results as earlier in the month, and about the same number of test results as in September when the Delta variant wave was hitting, and fewer than testing stretches running from December 2020 to the end of January 2021.

Demand for testing is way up, but the number of test results being reported isn’t up much at all — which suggests that the overall number of tests available hasn’t increased significantly. Some of that might reflect people taking at-home tests and not reporting those results, but . . . you would think the long lines outside public testing sites we’re seeing would cause the total number of test results to jump.

If you look at local news this morning, it’s the same story all over — people can’t find tests on the shelves of stores, and open appointments for those free tests are few and far between — from Houston, Texas, to Cleveland, Ohio, to Santa Cruz, Calif., to Stamford and Waterford, Conn.

As for Biden’s pledge this week that 500 million new Covid-19 tests are on the way and will start arriving in January, today’s New York Times suggests that’s the most optimistic timetable:

Mr. Biden’s administration has not yet signed a contract to buy the tests, and the website to order them will not be up until January. Officials have not said how many tests people will be able to order or how quickly they will be shipped once they begin to be available next month. Manufacturers say they are already producing tests as fast as they can. . . . Whether testing manufacturers can now ramp up to produce an extra 500 million at-home tests — and how soon — is unclear.”

(When you post about an inability to find tests in your area on social media, there’s always some schmo who will respond, “They’re easy to find in my area!” Well, that’s great for you. Maybe your corner of the country has low demand, or your neck of the woods just had a shipment arrive. That doesn’t change the fact that large swaths of America’s densely populated areas can’t find any tests. It’s not that people aren’t looking hard enough, and this is not a vast media conspiracy to make President Biden look bad. Sheesh.)

I don’t want to sound too similar to my colleagues David Harsanyi, Michael Brendan Dougherty, and Phil Klein, but the glaring question remains: Why does President Biden seem to focus upon every topic under the sun except what he can control, which is the performance of the executive branch of the federal government? The one part of the pandemic Biden can exert some control over is the FDA and how quickly it can run its approval process for new tests and other treatments. And if Biden doesn’t think the FDA’s approval process is dysfunctional, slow, bureaucratic, and excessively cautious, and he thinks the organization is already moving with all deliberate speed, then he should say so. As it is, Biden simply doesn’t talk about it. He seems to think that disagreeing with any FDA or CDC decision represents not trusting “the science.” (Curiously, it took Biden almost a year to nominate an FDA commissioner, during the biggest public-health crisis the country has seen in a century.)

You Would Have to Be Drunk to Think That, Huh, Mr. President?

President Biden, earlier this week:

What happened was the Omicron virus spread even more rapidly than anybody thought. If I had told you four weeks ago that this would spread by — a day-to-day basis it would spread by 50, 100 percent, 200 percent, 500 percent, I think you would have looked at me and say, “Biden, what are you drinking?” But that’s what it did.

Ironically, a little less than four weeks ago, South Africa announced the discovery of the Omicron variant and declared that, “Many of the changes [in Omicron] have been found in variants such as Delta and Alpha, and are linked to heightened infectivity and the ability to evade infection-blocking antibodies. The apparent sharp rise in cases of the variant in South Africa’s Gauteng province — home to Johannesburg — is also setting off alarm bells. Cases increased rapidly in the province in November, particularly in schools and among young people.”

A Note of Sympathy for Those Still Worried about Spreading Covid

I concur with the editors’ declaration that it is time to drive the “Covid zero” mentality from American life:

Ever since the federal, state, and local governments started taking aggressive action against Covid in March 2020, Americans have been taunted by the promise that if we could just get over one hump, Covid madness would be over. In practice, once we got to the top of one hump, another one became visible in the horizon. And then another one. And another one. And another one.

The only note I would add is that while the federal, state, and local governments must readjust their thinking, it is understandable that certain folks may still live in a heightened state of alert for the virus, for the foreseeable future.

As I laid out on Twitter yesterday, in any given year, roughly 1.8 million Americans get a diagnosis of cancer.

Some of these diagnoses are extremely serious, some are caught early and are treatable. But for just about all of those patients and their families and friends, it is as if the world stops turning, at least briefly.

A lot of cancer treatments, such as chemotherapy and immunotherapy, result in a patient’s experiencing “moderate to severe immunosuppression” — meaning, they’re considered “immunocompromised.” So yes, Covid-19, the Delta variant, and the Omicron variant probably won’t kill you, and if your immune system is working well, you probably don’t have a lot to worry about . . . but for those 1.8 million Americans who were diagnosed with cancer, and the portion who are on treatments that make them immunocompromised . . . yeah, Omicron is something they have to worry about, even if it’s comparably “mild.”

This means everybody who comes in regular contact with a cancer patient must be a little more careful about the risk of catching Covid/Omicron, and inadvertently passing it along. And cancer patients aren’t the only Americans who are immunocompromised and must worry about a pathogen doing more damage to their systems than the average person.

So maybe that person you know who’s really worried about Omicron is a Nervous Nellie or a paranoid germaphobe or a panic addict . . . or maybe that person has a good reason to worry about a particularly contagious variant reaching a loved one who has a compromised immune system.

It’s almost Christmas. It’s a good time to treat each other with a little more patience and understanding.

[jmcquown]

They were there, then, too, Michael. :( In 1969 I was walking with my
parents and my brothers from the hotel to a Chinese restaurant and saw
drunks sleeping in doorways. Pretty sure they were homeless.

Jill

[Gary]

jmcquown wrote:
> You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo

Please just name the song and artist, Jill.
youtube.com links have never worked on any of my computers. :)

[jmcquown]

'San Francisco (Flowers in Your Hair'; Scott McKenzie. :)

Jill

[Gary]

heh heh Good guess, Jill. ;)

[Bruce]

Without being sarcastic: is the neighbourhood wifi not good enough to
play YouTube clips?

[Bruce]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

A bounce castle killed 6 kids last week in Tasmania. It took off in a
freak wind.

[Bruce]

She doesn't miss much, does she?

[jmcquown]

Michael wishes for an idyllic former world that did not exist. The fact
is, yes, there were homeless people in San Francisco (and everywhere
else) in the 1960's. There always have been. Of course you knew that's
what I meant.

Jill

[Dave Smith]

I don't know about the US but there were not many people living on the
streets here in Canada when I was a kid. They didn't allow it back then.
Vagrants where thrown in jail and they used to stick crazy people in
asylums so they would not be a danger to themselves or to others. Then
people got concerned about the human rights, plus it was cheaper so send
them out on the streets to fend for themselves than it was to feed and
house them and have staff to monitor them.

Note that there are a lot more homeless people in warmer climates. No
one wants to be living on the streets in Winnipeg or Edmonton in the
winter.

[Bruce]

On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 13:42:22 -0500, Dave Smith
<adavid...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I don't know about the US but there were not many people living on the
>streets here in Canada when I was a kid. They didn't allow it back then.
>Vagrants where thrown in jail and they used to stick crazy people in
>asylums so they would not be a danger to themselves or to others. Then
>people got concerned about the human rights, plus it was cheaper so send
>them out on the streets to fend for themselves than it was to feed and
>house them and have staff to monitor them.
>
>Note that there are a lot more homeless people in warmer climates. No
>one wants to be living on the streets in Winnipeg or Edmonton in the
>winter.

Friends went to Canada before covid. I forgot which city they went to.
They were shocked by the huge amount of homeless people they saw. They
thought Canada was a bit better than the US, but no.

[Hank Rogers]

There was a twilight zone episode where a man was able to escape a
20th century train to a pleasant town in the late 19th century.

As usual, it turned disastrous, but I'd like to try myself. Maybe I
and trew could actually make it happen if we worked together.

At least, the old crones in that town were more pleasant.

[Hank Rogers]

It's even worse than the neitherlands.

In Toronto, for example, it's illegal to sniff a stranger's ass on
the street.

[Michael Trew]

Well, of course, all of the hippies did not have houses, they probably
camped out. I don't mind hippies. This guy is funny as all get-out.
Street performer from NYC (David Peel).

https://postimg.cc/RJS72VjB

I can't speak for the homeless drunks, but I'm glad that they aren't
around here. No cities for me.

[Michael Trew]

On 12/24/2021 17:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
> jmcquown wrote:
>> On 12/24/2021 12:27 PM, Gary wrote:
>>> On 12/24/2021 7:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/2021 1:27 AM, Michael Trew wrote:

>>>>> I wish I could have seen San Francisco back then. Now, you need

>>>>> to wear the flower under your nose in SF, due to the smell of the
>>>>> homeless defecating in the streets.
>>>>

>>>> They were there, then, too, Michael. :(Â In 1969 I was walking with

>>>> my parents and my brothers from the hotel to a Chinese restaurant

>>>> and saw drunks sleeping in doorways. Pretty sure they were homeless.
>>>
>>> heh heh Good guess, Jill. ;)

>>>
>> Michael wishes for an idyllic former world that did not exist. The
>> fact is, yes, there were homeless people in San Francisco (and
>> everywhere else) in the 1960's. There always have been. Of course
>> you knew that's what I meant.
>>
>> Jill
>
> There was a twilight zone episode where a man was able to escape a 20th
> century train to a pleasant town in the late 19th century.
>
> As usual, it turned disastrous, but I'd like to try myself. Maybe I and
> trew could actually make it happen if we worked together.

I'd be up for visiting the late 19th century.

> At least, the old crones in that town were more pleasant.

More pleasant than the old crones here? Heh

[Michael Trew]

Gary is probably still used to being on dial up speeds. If he had a
decent wifi connection, it would likely work, unless he's just right on
the edge of the signal. Unless, of course, the computer is too old.

[Bryan Simmons]

I discovered David Peel in the mid-'70s. Hilarious. I guess I have to
admit that he was an inspiration. The guy was an asshole. He was
buddies with John&Yoko.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIotyodXO-8

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

I've actually seen that video clip on YouTube before. Catchy song. I
don't know anything about the guy personally, but the picture that I
posted was from a guy that I knew on a web forum years ago. He knew
David Peel personally, and took the picture. He rented multiple flats,
one in the picture, collecting huge hunks of architectural detail from
buildings being torn down around NYC in the 1970's and storing them in
the flats.

I looked up David Peel at the same time (I was early in high school at
the time), and was amused by his music. It was especially fun getting
my younger siblings to sing along with some of them "I like Marijuana",
etc., to the disdain of my mother. She was also not thrilled on mothers
day when I sent her David Peel singing "Happy Mother's Day"... heh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9OYmLhR2K8

[jmcquown]

On 12/24/2021 7:31 PM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 12/24/2021 17:25, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> jmcquown wrote:
>>> On 12/24/2021 12:27 PM, Gary wrote:
>>>> On 12/24/2021 7:39 AM, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 12/24/2021 1:27 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>>>>> I wish I could have seen San Francisco back then.  Now, you need
>>>>>> to wear the flower under your nose in SF, due to the smell of the
>>>>>> homeless defecating in the streets.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were there, then, too, Michael. :(  In 1969 I was walking with
>>>>> my parents and my brothers from the hotel to a Chinese restaurant
>>>>> and saw drunks sleeping in doorways.  Pretty sure they were homeless.
>>>>
>>>> heh heh  Good guess, Jill.  ;)
>>>>
>>> Michael wishes for an idyllic former world that did not exist.  The
>>> fact is, yes, there were homeless people in San Francisco (and
>>> everywhere else) in the 1960's.  There always have been.  Of course
>>> you knew that's what I meant.
>>>
>>> Jill
>>
>> There was a twilight zone episode where a man was able to escape a 20th
>> century train to a pleasant town in the late 19th century.
>>

A Stop at Willoughby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmLh2LMT2Gc

>> As usual, it turned disastrous, but I'd like to try myself. Maybe I and
>> trew could actually make it happen if we worked together.
>

That's the Twilight Zone for ya'. :) The man needed to escape from a
shrew of a wife and a boss who constantly berated him.

> I'd be up for visiting the late 19th century.
>

You should look up the old PBS series '1900 House'. They recreated
living in that time with a "modern" family and things were not that easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNCMRWTLLu8

>> At least, the old crones in that town were more pleasant.
>
> More pleasant than the old crones here?  Heh

Heh indeed. :)

Jill

[Gary]

Hank Rogers wrote:
> In Toronto, for example, it's illegal to sniff a stranger's ass on the
> street.

The smart ass sniffing humans in Toronto wear dog costumes. Dogs are
exempt from the ass sniffing laws everywhere.

[Bryan Simmons]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom

--Bryan

[Michael Trew]

Thanks, I'll look into that. Does PBS stream on line anywhere with a
paid subscription? I don't have an antenna set up for any broadcast
stations.

[Jeßus]

Don't give anyone ideas. Next we'll see reports in the Australian
media of some guy getting around in a dog costume, sniffing random
people's asses.

[jmcquown]

I have no idea about streaming PBS. I've got cable. :) Those old
episodes (1900 House) likely wouldn't be streaming now, at any rate. I
was surprised to find it on Youtube.

You should watch at least the first episode where it shows all the
renovation work they had to do to gut and take the house back to 1900.
It's interesting. They were fortunate the old gas pipes for the gas
lights were still connected to the town gas mains. The coal stove in
the kitchen was a big deal, trying to find one that fit into the space
that would also heat water for the rest of the house. They never did
get more than tepid water in the upstairs bath tub. And, true to the
times, the flush toilet was out behind the house. Slightly better than
an outhouse but still outside. Life was not a picnic.

Jill

[Sqwertz]

How do you know thy were drunks if they were sleeping?

This is a common sight in most big cities for the last 25 years.
And there's no poop lying all over the streets. That's a rare
occurrence usually by the mentally ill.

Our downtown area smells like piss, especially in the heat of
summers - and 90% of that piss comes from the well-off college
kids and the usual assorted yuppies and bar hoppers on 6th street -
not the homeless.

Heck, I do it too when I'm crossing town on a bus and gotta piss.
There's no restrooms, nobody lets anybody use their restrooms,
and/or they're "out of order" or "only for employees" even though
their occupancy permit requires a restroom for customers.

The City installed some bathrooms on trailers, but theyr'e always
out of order. And the city-provided porta-potties are always locked.
People knock them over in frustration and guess what? They're empty
- no piss & shit leaking out of them (there was actually a new story
about that)

-sw

[Gary]

Thanks Jill but that name doesn't ring a bell. So ok...I'll click on the
link just to hear a couple of lines...

<one minute later>

Ok..I certainly remember that. :)

[cshenk]

There are simple ones for at little as 35$ that stick to a window,
though they only work well if you have a really nearby station.

For various amounts more, you can get better ones, including attic ones
or rooftop types.

[Bryan Simmons]

Yes. My wife pays for one. I never use it. She likes the British Bakeoff.

--Bryan

[Gary]

I was joking about youtube never working here.
It only didn't work because I never clicked on it (or rarely).

Took way too long with dialup.
By time I starting using the wifi, my Toshiba laptop had already
overheated once and burnt out my sound card. No need to try youtube with
no sound.

Now with new laptop all works fine but I'm still not going to click on
every youtube link that is posted here so often. Many of them aren't
worth clicking on.

[GM]

"dsi1" especially seems to "specialize" in posting "fishy" video links...

--
GM

[Bruce]

I remember a picture of you where you looked fairly hippiesque for the
right-winger you ended up as.

[Bruce]

Sometimes it's worth it, but when all someone does is post a link,
without any comment, I don't click either.

[jmcquown]

He probably wouldn't be able to stream '1900 House' unless it just
happened to be an offering on whatever streaming service/device. The
show I'm talking about aired in 1999. Michael was 4 years old. Is PBS
streaming stuff that old? What would that cost?

I provided the free Youtube link. No real need to pay extra to stream
or have some special device. We *know* he can see youtube videos.

Jill

[Jeßus]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 10:37:15 -0500, Gary <g.ma...@att.net> wrote:

Do you have your own Internet or just using other peoples wifi?

[Bruce]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...


Your insipid arrogance is on display in all of your posts.

You are a fatuous bloated fool.

I have seen a million faux intellectuals like you more times than I care to remember.

[Michael Trew]

On 12/25/2021 23:13, Sqwertz wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2021 07:39:47 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
>
>> On 12/24/2021 1:27 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
>>> On 12/23/2021 18:24, jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You might remember, Gary, I also knew the man who sang this classic song:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EuloQu4RXo
>>>>
>>>> Jill
>>>
>>> Ooh, another good song!
>>>
>>> I wish I could have seen San Francisco back then. Now, you need to wear
>>> the flower under your nose in SF, due to the smell of the homeless
>>> defecating in the streets.
>>
>> They were there, then, too, Michael. :( In 1969 I was walking with my
>> parents and my brothers from the hotel to a Chinese restaurant and saw
>> drunks sleeping in doorways. Pretty sure they were homeless.
>
> How do you know thy were drunks if they were sleeping?
>

> Our downtown area smells like piss, especially in the heat of
> summers - and 90% of that piss comes from the well-off college
> kids and the usual assorted yuppies and bar hoppers on 6th street -
> not the homeless.

I'm glad that I've never been to a city like that. Pittsburgh, and I've
been to most parts, never has that smell. One would think that the rain
would wash it away. Then again, I read that one light pole COLLAPSED in
San Franscisco from homeless people urinating on it.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 12:29:59 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Uhm Ghe ghe ghe!

[Bruce]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Q: What did one boob say to the other boob?

A: You're my breast friend.

[Bruce]

This is not my frogger.

[Bruce]

On Sun, 26 Dec 2021 12:29:59 -0500, jmcquown <j_mc...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Uhm Ghe ghe ghe!

[Michael Trew]

Oy... I totally missed the YouTube link the first time, sorry. Yes, YT
is perfectly sufficient for streaming. Not sure how I missed that.

[Bruce]

Uhm Ghe ghe ghe!

[Gary]

On 12/26/2021 1:01 PM, Je�us wrote:
> Do you have your own Internet or just using other peoples wifi?

Many of my nearby neighbors have their own private wifi that they pay
for. Password protected and more secure.

Up until a year ago, I always used my own private connection using
dial-up. $25 per month. Then AT&T stopped providing it.

I switched to using my laptop for the "free" neighborhood wifi. It's a
limited public wifi and provided by my rental company at no charge.

It's password protected but if you live here, they will give you the
password. Also only about 2 dozen or so of us (out of 400) live close
enough to the rental office to receive it.

Now, I pay nothing for internet access right at home. And better high
speed access. It's a win-win option.

The only downside which is no big deal to me, is that I won't do online
banking with it as it is a somewhat shared connection.

I get monthly bank statements by snail mail and any bank transactions
are done over the landline telephone.

It's all above board and free internet is a pretty darn good deal. :)

[Michael Trew]

On 12/27/2021 9:55, Gary wrote:
> On 12/26/2021 1:01 PM, Je�us wrote:
>> Do you have your own Internet or just using other peoples wifi?
>

> The only downside which is no big deal to me, is that I won't do online
> banking with it as it is a somewhat shared connection.
>
> I get monthly bank statements by snail mail and any bank transactions
> are done over the landline telephone.

Oh boy... Joan and Greg aren't going to like that ;)

[Bruce]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 13:28:57 -0500, Michael Trew
<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 12/27/2021 9:55, Gary wrote:

>> On 12/26/2021 1:01 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>> Do you have your own Internet or just using other peoples wifi?
>>
>> The only downside which is no big deal to me, is that I won't do online
>> banking with it as it is a somewhat shared connection.
>>
>> I get monthly bank statements by snail mail and any bank transactions
>> are done over the landline telephone.
>
>Oh boy... Joan and Greg aren't going to like that ;)

I do everything online that I can, but I also wouldn't do bank stuff
on such neighbourhood wifi or hotel/motel wifi etc. I don't know
enough about it to say that it's safe or not.

[GM]

It's that I "don't like it", it's simply that I'm very lazy by nature... online is SO much easier...

Haven't done any "bank transactions" by phone since prolly the Clintoon admin...

--
GM

[Sheldon Martin]

On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:32:13 +1100, Bruce <Br...@notreal.invalid>
wrote:

I do bank money transfers by Landline phone, only takes a minute and
all the women there know me and we enjoy our conversations. Sometimes
we can be on the phone twenty minutes catching up on personal events
like marriages and new babies.

[Michael Trew]

I tease, I tease.

Perhaps Gary is lucky, but paying bills by calling the 800 number costs
75 cents EACH in most cases here as a "processing fee". I have done it
a few times in a pinch when a bill was due, but I usually bundle both
electric and both gas bills for both of my houses in one envelope each
that they provide and and one check each, saving stamps also. I found
an online source for 2018 Freedom stamps that only cost $0.39 each.

[Michael Trew]

Perhaps your bank offers that service. The only way that I can do that
here is to talk to a computer system, and it costs 75 per each bill paid.

[GM]

May also depend on how much money you have in a particular bank...

;-)

--
GM

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 14:16:46 -0500, Michael Trew

<michae...@att.net> wrote:

>On 12/27/2021 14:08, Sheldon Martin wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 05:32:13 +1100, Bruce<Br...@notreal.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 13:28:57 -0500, Michael Trew
>>> <michae...@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/27/2021 9:55, Gary wrote:
>>>>> On 12/26/2021 1:01 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>> Do you have your own Internet or just using other peoples wifi?
>>>>>
>>>>> The only downside which is no big deal to me, is that I won't do online
>>>>> banking with it as it is a somewhat shared connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> I get monthly bank statements by snail mail and any bank transactions
>>>>> are done over the landline telephone.
>>>>
>>>> Oh boy... Joan and Greg aren't going to like that ;)
>>>
>>> I do everything online that I can, but I also wouldn't do bank stuff
>>> on such neighbourhood wifi or hotel/motel wifi etc. I don't know
>>> enough about it to say that it's safe or not.
>>
>> I do bank money transfers by Landline phone, only takes a minute and
>> all the women there know me and we enjoy our conversations. Sometimes
>> we can be on the phone twenty minutes catching up on personal events
>> like marriages and new babies.
>
>Perhaps your bank offers that service. The only way that I can do that
>here is to talk to a computer system, and it costs 75 per each bill paid.

I use a Credit Union, they have many branches on Lung Guyland, they
have a major branch where I worked.

[Sheldon Martin]

That's very true.

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

Damn right!

[itsjoan...@webtv.net]

On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 1:08:21 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>
> I do bank money transfers by Landline phone, only takes a minute and
> all the women there know me and we enjoy our conversations. Sometimes
> we can be on the phone twenty minutes catching up on personal events
> like marriages and new babies.
>

May I ask by you do those bank transfers by phone? Can you not do them
online?

BUT I did pay a bill by phone a few months ago. It was one from my doctor
that Social Security nor my supplemental plan paid. My doctor is not set up
as a biller on my bank account so I just called his office and paid that bill by
phone. Yeah, I could have mailed it, but the phone call was quicker and the
bill was paid.

[GM]

;-D

--
GM

[Sheldon Martin]

On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:36:15 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
<itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:

>On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 1:08:21 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>
>> I do bank money transfers by Landline phone, only takes a minute and
>> all the women there know me and we enjoy our conversations. Sometimes
>> we can be on the phone twenty minutes catching up on personal events
>> like marriages and new babies.
>>
>May I ask by you do those bank transfers by phone? Can you not do them
>online?

I could but I don't, I prefer the conversations.

>BUT I did pay a bill by phone a few months ago. It was one from my doctor
>that Social Security nor my supplemental plan paid. My doctor is not set up
>as a biller on my bank account so I just called his office and paid that bill by
>phone. Yeah, I could have mailed it, but the phone call was quicker and the
>bill was paid.

I don't pay bills from my bank, actually a credit union, I either
write a check and use snail mail or my wife handles bill paying from
our joint account. Each month we each deposit equal amounts into our
joint account and joint bills are paid from it (household). I also
pay bills with my Visa, works well with on line purchasing. I pay
doctor bills and pharmacy bills with my Visa. My wife uses her
American Express for her personal purchases. We each pay our own
vehicle expenses, I buy gas with cash, my wife buys gas with her AmEx.
Occasionally throughout the year my wife drives me to a doctor, I give
her cash for gas. I always carry a large sum of cash with me, my wife
never has cash, often she'll ask me for a five dollar bill in the
morning before she goes to school, she knows I always have cash and
she never has cash. I've always had cash since I was a child, I'm not
going to change... I keep a large sum of cash in a drawer, and in my
wallet. My wife knows that in any emergency where to find cash.

[Bruce]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

Was the "passerby" a hooker? Perhaps one who dropped her purple
panties? You cannot convince me your neighbors want to hear your music
blasting at any time.

[Michael Trew]

On 12/27/2021 19:34, Sheldon Martin wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 15:36:15 -0800 (PST), "itsjoan...@webtv.net"
> <itsjoan...@webtv.net> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, December 27, 2021 at 1:08:21 PM UTC-6, Sheldon wrote:
>>>
>>> I do bank money transfers by Landline phone, only takes a minute and
>>> all the women there know me and we enjoy our conversations. Sometimes
>>> we can be on the phone twenty minutes catching up on personal events
>>> like marriages and new babies.
>>>
>> May I ask by you do those bank transfers by phone? Can you not do them
>> online?
>
> I could but I don't, I prefer the conversations.
>
>> BUT I did pay a bill by phone a few months ago. It was one from my doctor
>> that Social Security nor my supplemental plan paid. My doctor is not set up
>> as a biller on my bank account so I just called his office and paid that bill by
>> phone. Yeah, I could have mailed it, but the phone call was quicker and the
>> bill was paid.
>

> I've always had cash since I was a child, I'm not
> going to change... I keep a large sum of cash in a drawer, and in my
> wallet. My wife knows that in any emergency where to find cash.

I still use my first leather wallet that I got when I was 6 or 7 years
old. I still recall a second grade girl proclaiming "wow, just like a
real man!", when I showed her that I had the sum of about 13 dollars in
my wallet. The poor thing is bound with tape now.

I always have a couple hundred dollars on my person. My great
grandfather was a cabbie in Pittsburgh for decades, and he taught me to
keep a separate money clip from the wallet. I keep a fair sum locked in
my house also, in case of emergencies, in an asbestos fireproof safe.

[Bruce]

On Wednesday, December 22, 2021 at 1:44:07 PM UTC-6, jwk...@bjc.org wrote:
> "This is a SERIOUS RECORDING of Cheep Effects"!
>
> In MY sonorous voice!
>
> And it was recorded on MY Pioneer CTf-1000 CASSETTE machine!
>
> John Kuthe, RN, BSN...

QANTAS = Queer And Nice Type of Air Service ;)

[Gary]

LOL Oh the *horrors* of using an old way of doing things. ;-D

I'm a firm believer of the old saying, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."