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Chuck Roth

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Oct 15, 2003, 11:54:33 PM10/15/03
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What is a good (short-term) treatment for a sticky dance floor? We can't
refinish the floor and it would be difficult to get everyone to wear
slippery shoes. So, what suggestions do you have to make a sticky floor
more danceable?

Trainman

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Oct 16, 2003, 12:54:59 AM10/16/03
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Do they still sell "dance wax"? I remember it as a box of powder sprinkled
across the dance floor before the event.

DiDi

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David Smukler

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Oct 16, 2003, 7:26:55 AM10/16/03
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On 10/15/03 11:54 PM, in article
ZDojb.55580$7_1....@twister.austin.rr.com, "Chuck Roth"
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We've had very good luck with corn starch. It's cheap and effective. One of
the places we dance doubles as a bingo hall and people are always spilling
soft drinks and what not on the floor.

First clean the floor (wet mop). Once it's dry sprinkle cornstarch around.
Sweep up the cornstarch and dance happily on the floor.

David Smukler

Sarah Gowan

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Oct 16, 2003, 12:32:52 PM10/16/03
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Be careful with dance wax - it's pretty potent stuff and can make the floor
TOO slippery for dancing if you use too much.

I was at a dance weekend a few years ago when someone got a little
enthusiastic with the dance wax. We suffered through one very slippery - and
comical - contra before stopping the dance and trying to clean the floors.
We couldn't find any brooms or mops so we dragged big old stage draperies
around the floor for a bit before realizing they weren't quite heavy enough
to be effective. A few of the lighter dancers sat on the drapes and the
added weight as we dragged the floor did the trick. I must say it looked
exactly like something I would have yelled at my kids for doing. I'll never
underestimate the ingenuity of a crowd of contra dancers who really want to
dance!

Sarah

Don Ward

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Oct 17, 2003, 1:50:14 AM10/17/03
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some dancers find excellent results by spraying the bottom of there shoes
with WD40 you can treat as little or as much as you need and it leaves
the floor in its natural state


don ward

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Trainman

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Oct 17, 2003, 7:33:30 AM10/17/03
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Don Ward <dwa...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I would be leery of using WD-40, it may harm some synthetic materials.

It's basically scented Kerosene, not necessarily something I'd like on my
shoes.

Huggs

DiDi


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Karen M.

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Oct 17, 2003, 3:09:37 PM10/17/03
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David wrote:
> We've had very good luck with corn starch. It's cheap and effective. One of
> the places we dance doubles as a bingo hall and people are always spilling
> soft drinks and what not on the floor.
>
> First clean the floor (wet mop). Once it's dry sprinkle cornstarch around.
> Sweep up the cornstarch and dance happily on the floor.

Do NOT confuse this with cornMEAL, which will absorb water and turn
into a gooey tortilla-esque mess.
Local legend has it that Someone Whose Name You'd All Recognize
decided that these were interchangeable and did exactly this to a
church hall's floor. The dance community got thrown out, first by them
asking us to be gone by 10 pm, then adding more restrictions until the
message was conveyed.

--Karen M.

Jim Saxe

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Oct 17, 2003, 6:37:39 PM10/17/03
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In article <4bfcf85b.03101...@posting.google.com>,

Karen M. <kmss...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>David wrote:
>> We've had very good luck with corn starch. ...
>...

> Do NOT confuse this with cornMEAL, which will absorb water and turn
>into a gooey tortilla-esque mess.

Hmm. For several years we got reasonably good results using corn meal
on the too-sticky floor at the BACDS Spring Weekend and Fall Weekend
dance camps at Monte Toyon. Recently the camp switched to using a
different floor finish [Yay!], so the floor was just fine without any
special treatment at this year's Spring Weekend, and I'm looking
forward to the same for Fall Weekend (which starts this evening).

I'm positive that what we used was corn _meal_ and not corn starch,
having been personally responsible for buying and applying it most of
the times we used it. I don't remember doing any wet mopping. If one
were to employ wet mopping in addition to applying corn meal (or
whatever) to the floor, I'd recommend sweeping the corn meal off the
floor with a push broom or a dry mop before each wet mopping, and
letting the wet-mopped floor dry before applying and dancing on a new
batch of corn meal.

It's important not to use too much corn meal, lest the floor get too
slippery, and also to sprinkle the corn meal over the floor as evenly
as possible, to avoid having slippery areas right next to sticky
areas. [These cautions apply even more strongly for dance wax.]
Because I could never get the floor completely uniform, I tended, for
the sake of safety, to leave it averaging a little stickier than I
would have considered ideal. Having a good floor finish in the first
place makes me much happier.

I have no personal experience treating dance floors with corn _starch_,
but can relate one curious incident. One evening we entered one of
our regular halls and found the floor to be remarkable squeaky. It
was as if a chorus of crickets were accompanying the dancers. The
floor also seemed to be either stickier than usual of slipperier than
usual, depending in part on what kind of shoes people were wearing.
(For my fellow engineering nerds, I'll speculate that the ratio
mu_static to mu_dynamic was higher than usual.) In a corner of the
hall, we noticed a floor-brushing machine and an open box of corn
starch that we had not observed on other occasions. I don't know
exactly what, if anything, had been done with the machine and/or the
corn starch before we entered the hall.

--Jim


Jon Weinberg

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Oct 17, 2003, 11:18:43 PM10/17/03
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On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:54:33 GMT, "Chuck Roth" <cr...@austin.rr.com>
wrote:

I've found that baby powder works very well. I carry a small
container of it in my bag with my dance shoes. In sticky conditions
and sprinkle a little on the floor and then coat the bottom of my
shoes by rubbing the bottom of my shoes on it.

I was at a dance recently where someone when up and down the line
sprinking it between the dancers to great effect. Everyone was most
appreciative.


Jon Weinberg

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Bruce Henderson

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Oct 18, 2003, 10:00:53 AM10/18/03
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Jon Weinberg <j...@JonWeinberg.com> wrote in message news:<e2c1pvsfj2dvk8384...@4ax.com>...

> On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 03:54:33 GMT, "Chuck Roth" <cr...@austin.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >What is a good (short-term) treatment for a sticky dance floor? (snip)


> I've found that baby powder works very well. I carry a small
> container of it in my bag with my dance shoes. (snip)
> Jon Weinberg

I keep a candle in my dance bag for the same purpose. If I
encounter a sticky floor, I just rub it on my shoe soles. For most
sticky floors, one application per half is enough - it it's stickier,
then I'll apply more often, but to do that I have to tuck the candle
in the waistband of my underwear (no pockets in my dance skirts).
("Gee, is that a candle in your pocket or are you just glad to see
me?") :0
Bruce Henderson, Wallace NC

arge...@bcpl.net

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Oct 18, 2003, 2:00:42 PM10/18/03
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I guess you don't cook very much. %^) (Idon't, much, either.)

One thickens gravy with cornSTARCH. It acts like flour. Cornstarch
and water turn into paste. As far as I know, cornMEAL and water turn
into mush, cornbread, or corn pone, depending on what you do with the
stuff.

Don't put cornstarch on the floor. %^(


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On 17 Oct 2003 12:09:37 -0700, kmss...@earthlink.net (Karen M.)
wrote:

>David wrote:
>> We've had very good luck with corn starch. It's cheap and effective. One of
>> the places we dance doubles as a bingo hall and people are always spilling

>> soft drinks and what not on the floor...

> Do NOT confuse this with cornMEAL, which will absorb water and turn
>into a gooey tortilla-esque mess.
> Local legend has it that Someone Whose Name You'd All Recognize
>decided that these were interchangeable and did exactly this to a
>church hall's floor. The dance community got thrown out, first by them
>asking us to be gone by 10 pm, then adding more restrictions until the
>message was conveyed.
>
>--Karen M.

Alan
(Reply to arge...@bcpl.net, but delete my middle initial "r".)

Mean Green Dancing Machine

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Oct 18, 2003, 4:04:06 PM10/18/03
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In article <85v2pvkakl3ma8vrc...@4ax.com>,

<arge...@bcpl.net> wrote:
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>Don't put cornstarch on the floor. %^(

My IFD group uses a bit of cornstarch. Works like a charm. (It's some
kind of linoleum tile over concrete. :-( )
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The Martins

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Oct 22, 2003, 1:38:12 PM10/22/03
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Based on the recommendation of a trusted person, I sprinkled a tiny
amount of shuffleboard wax on a tacky grange hall floor once. Just as
soon as several people fell down we got out the mops and went back to
sticky.

The Seattle Folklife Festival once used some kind of talc or baby
powder on their new storable dance floor. You could see a knee-high
fog if you knelt down and looked across the floor filled with hundreds
of dancers. People were getting red eyes and were blowing their noses
but they didnt know why.

Bill


Deb Karl

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Oct 22, 2003, 2:25:31 PM10/22/03
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> The Seattle Folklife Festival once used some kind of talc or baby
> powder on their new storable dance floor. You could see a knee-high
> fog if you knelt down and looked across the floor filled with hundreds
> of dancers. People were getting red eyes and were blowing their noses
> but they didnt know why.

at the last Ralph Page Dance Legacy Weekend, someone in our set for
squares decided to sprinkle talc. I had the same problem Bill
described--lots of particulate matter in the air, sneezing, red eyes.
Maybe good for the shoes, but not good for the head & lungs...

Please check with those around you before sprinkling powder onto the floor...

--Deb

Noemi Ybarra

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Nov 5, 2003, 3:12:04 PM11/5/03
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Hey, another theater/contra person!

What did that do to the drapes?

Noemi
(Jones & Phillips)

susan

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Jan 31, 2004, 6:28:50 PM1/31/04
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first Saturday every month:
Next dance is Feb 7, caller Mary Virginia Brooks, band Wahoo (Harry Bolick
fiddle, Tim Pitt guitar, Brian Slattery banjo, with guest Mark Murphy on
bass).
Admission $9 adults, $4 ages 6-14 or over 65, under 6 free.
St Philip's Church, Rte 9D, Garrison.
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March 6 dance: band Rip'n'snort Beverly Smith fiddle, Erica Weiss guitar,
Susan
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this dance is a lovely, small community dance about 1 hr north of NYC, very
laid back atmosphere. The church is gorgeous and the hall has a nice wooden
floor. However recently attendance has fallen off and they will need some
significant turnout in order to continue. The callers and bands are
excellent, squares and contras both. Please spread the word and support
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