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Jane Saranac

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Nov 15, 2009, 8:11:56 AM11/15/09
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I have tried three times to post a response to this and it comes back with
an error message so I will try putting on a new subject...

"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> Nothing you speculate about relates to me and Pete.

OOOOhhhhhh. Thank you for that correction.
>
> Is this how you approach trail riding?

Thank you your interest, but we were talking about you. .
>
> I am trying to make it exactly like my loose rein warm up in the arena. I
> am doing the same things.

Maybe that is the problem. You are in a different setting and the same
things
may not be appropriate.

He is reacting differently away from
> the barn.

Have you figured out why?

> I have ZERO reason to not be relaxed on this horse in the arena, on
> trails, on the moon, etc.. The trails are not scary. The easement where
> we do hill work is not scary.
>
Please don't be so defensive, Sharon. I am not accusing you of being some
kind of wimp.

You are never going to get this answer to this unless you ask the right
questions.

carol grosvenor

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Nov 19, 2009, 11:13:20 PM11/19/09
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On Nov 15, 7:11 am, "Jane Saranac" <jsalaci...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have tried three times to post a response to this and it comes back with
> an error message so I will try putting on a new subject...
>
> "Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVzardwo...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message

>
> > Nothing you speculate about relates to me and Pete.
>
> OOOOhhhhhh.  Thank you for that correction.
>
>
>
> > Is this how you approach trail riding?
>
> Thank you your interest, but we were talking about you.  .
>
>
>
> > I am trying to make it exactly like my loose rein warm up in the arena. I
> > am doing the same things.
>
> Maybe that is the problem.  You are in a different setting and the same
> things
> may not be appropriate.
>
> He is reacting differently away from
>
> > the barn.
>
> Have you figured out why?
>
> > I have ZERO reason to not be relaxed on this horse in the arena, on
> > trails, on the moon, etc..  The trails are not scary.  The easement where
> > we do hill work is not scary.
>
> Please don't be so defensive, Sharon.  I am not accusing you of being some
> kind of wimp.
>
> You are never going to get this answer to this unless you ask the right
> questions.

Sharon,
Not getting the whole thing here, but just to say what may be the
issue.
Don't expect your horse to be the same in different situations. He
won't be.
They are most relaxed in the setting where they spend the most time.
There is going to be a difference between trail riding in place A and
place B. Horses who spend most of their time in an arena will be
higher on trails, and vice versa. I'm having trouble with my new horse
in an arena, since she's spent so much time on trails. I went to the
stable with an arena last weekend one afternoon. She is getting better
there, but I can see her getting tense whenever other horses come into
the arena. She's happier once they leave, but if one does come in, she
sure tries to follow it around. I also notice she's a little more
anxious if I take her to a place she hasn't been before to trail ride.
She will lead, but is apprehensive to do so, so is happier to follow,
especially in new places.
It doesn't mean anything about the way you are riding him, it's just
what he is accustomed to doing. So, if you want him really relaxed on
trails, you have to do it a lot. Also, it helps a lot to ride with
other people-- not a whole lot of other people, but to start out with
one or two people and then move up to larger groups if that is going
well. Be aware that if you ride with someone on a very nervous or
badly behaved horse, that will probably adversely affect him.
cg

cg

Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:26:26 AM11/20/09
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carol grosvenor wrote:

(snip)

> Sharon,
> Not getting the whole thing here, but just to say what may be the
> issue.
> Don't expect your horse to be the same in different situations. He
> won't be.
> They are most relaxed in the setting where they spend the most time.
> There is going to be a difference between trail riding in place A and
> place B. Horses who spend most of their time in an arena will be
> higher on trails, and vice versa. I'm having trouble with my new horse
> in an arena, since she's spent so much time on trails. I went to the
> stable with an arena last weekend one afternoon. She is getting better
> there, but I can see her getting tense whenever other horses come into
> the arena. She's happier once they leave, but if one does come in, she
> sure tries to follow it around. I also notice she's a little more
> anxious if I take her to a place she hasn't been before to trail ride.
> She will lead, but is apprehensive to do so, so is happier to follow,
> especially in new places.
> It doesn't mean anything about the way you are riding him, it's just
> what he is accustomed to doing. So, if you want him really relaxed on
> trails, you have to do it a lot. Also, it helps a lot to ride with
> other people-- not a whole lot of other people, but to start out with
> one or two people and then move up to larger groups if that is going
> well. Be aware that if you ride with someone on a very nervous or
> badly behaved horse, that will probably adversely affect him.

Carol, thanks very much for this advice.

I am coming to realize that trail riding once a week may not be enough.

I specifically asked my trainer to work on trail when she had him this
summer and she did. I want a horse who will do both. Pete will
certainly go on trail but I want to do it on a loose rein like I'm in a
western movie and not on normal contact. If I want to work him in a
productive fashion on contact I'll do it on the perfect footing of the
arena thanks. :)

sharon

Ruth Baltopoulos

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Nov 20, 2009, 8:53:27 AM11/20/09
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Ocean of Nuance wrote:
[...]

> Pete will
> certainly go on trail but I want to do it on a loose rein like I'm in a
> western movie and not on normal contact. If I want to work him in a
> productive fashion on contact I'll do it on the perfect footing of the
> arena thanks. :)

It sounds as if you are simply looking to hack around casually outside
of an arena. Any farm roads available to you for that purpose?

On the trail, there is generally quite a bit of productive work to be
found, both mentally and physically, and sometimes unexpectedly. Riding
at all gaits, around and over obstacles, creeks, ditches, etc. The odd
person with a canoe on their head, dogs, deer, runners, bikers, ground
bees.

Oh, and the Western horses you see in the movies? They go 'round on a
loose rein in a productive fashion at all gaits while working. Stands
to reason they would hit the trails with a draped rein.
--
Ruth B

Judie

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Nov 20, 2009, 3:09:22 PM11/20/09
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I find that although Axl may be a bit pumped to begin with, after a
couple of hours he is loose rein material as well. We usually trail
ride for 4 or 5 hours at a time.

Judie

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