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George Tews

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer (Heavy).
When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed to
license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something to
the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed plates.
I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????

Please email if ya can!!!!!

gt...@execpc.com


John T. Klausner

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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If it rolls on the road, you can expect your local Governer will want
his due.
SueK

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writes:

Dale & Lora Marshall

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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Most states require trailers to be licensed. Check with your
state's Department of Motor Vehicles, I'm sure they can answer
your questions better than any of us here on the net!

Good Luck!

Lora


George Tews wrote:
>
> I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer (Heavy).
> When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed to
> license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
> probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something to
> the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed plates.
> I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
> heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
> 2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????
>
> Please email if ya can!!!!!
>
> gt...@execpc.com

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Tim Shurtleff

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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Not a question that can be answered with an answer good anywhere. Call your
state dept of Motor Vehicles that does the licensing or your highway patrol..
They have the answer.

People on Rec.eq may give you an answer good for their state that will not
satisfy your local highway patrolman when he pulls you over.

They probably won't consider rec.eq to be an authority (G).

I have never lived in a state that didn't require licenses on any trailer I have
pulled unless it is a farm wagon, and they are only good for short distances
between fields and not for road travel. I don't think horse trailers would
qualify.

IIWY, I would assume you need a license unless told otherwise by your state
authorities.

Tim.

On 8 Feb 1997 13:32:17 GMT, gt...@earth.execpc.com (George Tews) wrote:

>I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer (Heavy).
>When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed to
>license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
>probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something to
>the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed plates.
>I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
>heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
>2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????
>
>Please email if ya can!!!!!
>
>gt...@execpc.com
>


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VWheeler

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In TN plates are required but you pay only once -- then it's good for as
long as you own the trailer. sorry, but I don't remember the amount.

Best advice you've already received -- call DMV. Good luck!

Vicki

Jackson

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Feb 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/8/97
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Agree with other posts. FYI輸rizona requires a license plate AND a
license plat light to illuminate it!
Bonnie in AZ

lex...@vnet.ibm.com

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Feb 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/9/97
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In <32FC48...@primenet.com>, Jackson <oas...@primenet.com> writes:
>Agree with other posts. FYI Arizona requires a license plate AND a

>license plat light to illuminate it!
>Bonnie in AZ

As everyone else has said, check with the state authority.
For example. Kentucky does not require license plates on trailers.
But some of the states around it do.

Maureen O'Daniel
(Lexington Kentucky)

MISCONSERV

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Feb 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/9/97
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Va requires registration, payment of personal property tax and state
inspection of the trailer once a year

carol...@aol.com

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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In article <32FCB1...@cliffhanger.com>, Dale & Lora Marshall
<mars...@cliffhanger.com> writes:

>
>George Tews wrote:
>>
>> I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer
(Heavy).
>> When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed
to
>> license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
>> probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something
to
>> the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed
plates.
>> I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
>> heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
>> 2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????

Here in VA it has to be licensed and inspected yearly though it is
commonly ignored. Even my DH's boat trailers are licensed(and the boats).
At one time we had a jet ski and as I recall even that trailer had a tag.

Carol in Spotsylvania, VA
Damn proud of my US Naval Academy DAUGHTER


Carol in Spotsylvania, VA

April Fingerlos

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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On 10 Feb 1997, Richard Bishop wrote:

->
->Ohio certainly does. And it's expensive, has to be renewed every year.
->
->Sue

Idaho's license requirements are pretty inexpensive--$38 for a 10 year
registration, or $12 for a 1 year registration. Guess what people usually
opt for. ;-) My trailer is registered until 2005.

We have separate registration requirement for vehicles that pull trailers,
however. My Cummins is registered this way. It has a special T-plate
(truck plate) and is registered to legally be over 16,000lbs. These
registrations are actually less expensive then regular registration,
usually running about $40 with plates for a new registration and $25 for a
renewal. If the truck was a new purchase, there is a 5% sales tax on top
of that.

April


Richard Botterill

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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In article <5dhv91$r...@newsops.execpc.com>, gt...@earth.execpc.com (George Tews) says:

>I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer (Heavy).
>When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed to
>license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
>probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something to
>the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed plates.
>I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
>heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
>2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????

Here in Manitoba, Canada our horse trailers require plates. Manitoba has
government-operated vehicle insurance (a monopoly, as the =only= portion
of insurance that you can obtain from private insurers is extension
coverage over and above the basic liability insurance, etc.), and our
trailer plates include a mandatory charge for collision/theft insurance.
The liability portion is covered by the towing vehicle's insurance, I
believe. The charge for the collision/theft coverage on the trailers
used to be based on trailer weight classifications, but for the last
several years it has been based on dollar-value of the trailer (up to
$2500; $2501 to $5,000; $5001 to $7500; $7501 to $10000; etc.).

Richard and Sun Valley

Richard Botterill
bott...@technet.assiniboinec.mb.ca
Distance Education and Media Division
Assiniboine Community College
Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Jaz

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Feb 10, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/10/97
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bis...@ix.netcom.com(Richard Bishop) writes:
> Ohio certainly does. And it's expensive, has to be renewed every year.

I'm really surprised at this question to begin with! You mean to tell me there
are states in this country who do not want to license a trailer...monies being
lost to all those trailers yearly? Whew, their economy must be in fabulous
shape to be able to forego trailering licenses! I always thought any vechicle
on any public road had to have a plate....which states do not require them???
Let's hear from YOU guys!!!! And are you sure about Kentucky? What a racing
lobby they must have.

BTW....Massachusetts has a $60.00 per year plate and it is renewed every
November, plus I have to pay personal property tax every year. The only way the
city has a way to collect is by that plate number......so what do you pay for
that too?

Amazed,
jaz

Ed Barrett

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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This probably varies by state. Illinois requires plates, and the type of
plate depends on gross weight. Some rigs if heavy enough will requiore
inspection of brakes, lights, etc.

Ed

Scott Noffsinger

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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George Tews wrote:
>
> I have a 2 horse trailer. It is a dual axel DRAFT HORSE trailer (Heavy).
> When I bought it, it had no plates, but someone told me I am supposed to
> license it. Seems that no one else I know licenses them, but I am
> probably the only one with a draft horse model. I was told something to
> the extent, that if it exceeds 5000 or was it 6000 lbs, it needed plates.
> I dont know the trailer weight, but it is darn heavy. If I put my
> heaviest horse (1500lbs), and my Arab (1100lbs), in it, I already have
> 2600lbs. Anyone know the details on this????
>
> Please email if ya can!!!!!
>
> gt...@execpc.com

Here in Texas I bought a two horse trailer at auction. No title or
anything.
I went to the tag office and told them I bought it at auction and had no
title.
I carry a farm exemption cause of my land so it cost me a whole $5.20
for one year.
But in Texas they are required.
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Carol Fisher

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Feb 11, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/11/97
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well, i guess California tops you all. I paid $194 for my 1996 annual
registration. That's for a 1993 Logan 3-horse. I don't remember what
it started at (goes down about 8% each year).

Donna Pattee

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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In article <32FC48...@primenet.com>, Jackson <oas...@primenet.com> wrote:
>Agree with other posts. FYI輸rizona requires a license plate AND a

>license plat light to illuminate it!
>Bonnie in AZ

Colorado, which is where George lives (I think), does require the plate but
not a light.


Cheryl A. Little

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Feb 12, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/12/97
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April Fingerlos wrote:
>
My Cummins is registered this way. It has a special T-plate
> (truck plate) and is registered to legally be over 16,000lbs. These
> registrations are actually less expensive then regular registration,
> usually running about $40 with plates for a new registration and $25 for a
> renewal. If the truck was a new purchase, there is a 5% sales tax on top
> of that.
>
> April

Geeez! I need to move! Here in WA we pay licenses on everything yearly,
even campers that fit inside the tailgate. And the amount depends on the
value of the item. Lowest rig of ours is the '68 GMC farm truck at $55
per year. A friend's 4 horse costs around $200 yearly.

Cheryl

w...@ecis.com

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
to George Tews

Better check with your state's motor vehicle department. Most states
require trailer plates. Perhaps a few still offer a "farm exemption"
which either carries a reduced registration fee or allows you to drive
intrastate without a plate so long as the tow vehicle is registered.

California requires plates on all motor driven vehicles or combinations
and if the trailer is over 2,500 Lbs. (unladen gross weight), the trailer
is considered commercial and annual "weight fees" are added to the price
of the tags. (E pluribus grabbis)

If your state doesn't require a plate, be careful about "crossing the
border" without some proof of both ownership and exemption.

:O) Willis Lamm

Deborah Warcken

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Feb 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/13/97
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California does top all. My Featherlite 3 horse cost me $276 in 1992 (It
is $186 this year). I have a light for my plate. CA also requires a
special break away battery arrangement that activates the trailor brakes.
When I got my trailor I had one heck of a time finding a @#$%$## battery
for this set up. The Highway Patrol knew nothing about it even though they
were presumably responsible for enforcing this law. I finally found one
about 3 hours from here. I was told a couple of years ago that the
batteries were being changed (size and shape) but I saw one in the local
hardware store just the other day. (Where were they when I needed them?)

--
Deborah Warcken
war...@mbay.net

Richard Botterill

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Feb 15, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/15/97
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On Wed, 12 Feb 1997 13:12:15 -0800, "Cheryl A. Little"
<che...@awhitehorse.com> wrote:

>Geeez! I need to move! Here in WA we pay licenses on everything yearly,
>even campers that fit inside the tailgate. And the amount depends on the
>value of the item. Lowest rig of ours is the '68 GMC farm truck at $55
>per year. A friend's 4 horse costs around $200 yearly.

My annual renewal notice arrived today. I have my 1996 Sundowner
insured for a maximum value of $10K and there is $200,000 third party
liability included (the $2M extension liability coverage on the truck
also covers the trailer when towing). There's a $500 deductible for
damage. Registration is $37 and the insurance adds $128, so total
cost per year is $165 for the horse trailer.


Richard and Sun Valley
Brandon, Manitoba, Canada
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Ruth Ann Shuler

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Feb 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/16/97
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>
> BTW....Massachusetts has a $60.00 per year plate and it is renewed every
> November, plus I have to pay personal property tax every year. The only
way the
> city has a way to collect is by that plate number......so what do you pay
for
> that too?


In New Mexico... a horse owner does not have to have a tagged trailer
unless they are hauling livestock for commercial purposes, that also means
that if you haul someone else's horse to an event and charge them for it...
otherwise no tag. However, it limits one to intrastate travel because
surrounding states do have tag requirements.

I'm guessing that this is so to help a rancher move livestock from one
pasture to another (sometimes they may be miles apart - or even in a
different county altogether).


Linda

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Feb 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/17/97
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On 10 Feb 1997 17:09:17 GMT, Jaz...@aol.com (Jaz) wrote:

>bis...@ix.netcom.com(Richard Bishop) writes:
>> In <5dke96$1t...@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> lex...@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>> >
>> >In <32FC48...@primenet.com>, Jackson <oas...@primenet.com>
>> writes:

>> >>Agree with other posts. FYI Arizona requires a license plate AND a


>> >>license plat light to illuminate it!
>> >>Bonnie in AZ
>> >

>> >As everyone else has said, check with the state authority.
>> >For example. Kentucky does not require license plates on trailers.
>> >But some of the states around it do.
>> >
>>
>> Ohio certainly does. And it's expensive, has to be renewed every year.
>
>I'm really surprised at this question to begin with! You mean to tell me there
>are states in this country who do not want to license a trailer...monies being
>lost to all those trailers yearly? Whew, their economy must be in fabulous
>shape to be able to forego trailering licenses! I always thought any vechicle
>on any public road had to have a plate....which states do not require them???
>Let's hear from YOU guys!!!! And are you sure about Kentucky? What a racing
>lobby they must have.
>

>BTW....Massachusetts has a $60.00 per year plate and it is renewed every
>November, plus I have to pay personal property tax every year. The only way the
>city has a way to collect is by that plate number......so what do you pay for
>that too?
>

>Amazed,
>jaz

Here in PA a 2-horse trailer is $12.00/annually & has to be inspected.
There's something about brakes that my husband knows but I don't. We
got this trailer in NH that doesn't require the same rules regarding
brakes.

We had a 6-horse van for several years that was pulled by a semi. The
license on it was also reasonable. The truck was another story.

Linda


grandma

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Feb 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM2/21/97
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"Ruth Ann Shuler" <matt...@caverns.com> wrote:

I bought a trailer from someone who bought it from someone in OK who
had constructed it from an old gas station (sign I think - you could
see the name of the gasoline inside the top if you looked). They had
no title and I'm not sure that they had any tags either. She licensed
in it MD under the aegis of their old trailer even tho the old trailer
was a tagalong 2 horse and this one was a gooseneck stock trailer.
Don't know how they did that.
When I bought it, I had to provide a number, for the state title
people, and it didn't have one (number or title). So they had me take
pictures of it to show that it had lights (and fenders and tires I
guess), and then either they or the inspection people issued me a
number, which was embossed on a little piece of metal, which we were
then to attach to the trailer. We do have to have license plates
here. And I know in PA the trailers have to have brakes, which they
don;t have to have here. My daughter lived in MS for awhile, and I
don't think they require annual license renewal.

>In New Mexico... a horse owner does not have to have a tagged trailer
>unless they are hauling livestock for commercial purposes, that also means
>that if you haul someone else's horse to an event and charge them for it...
> otherwise no tag. However, it limits one to intrastate travel because
>surrounding states do have tag requirements.

>I'm guessing that this is so to help a rancher move livestock from one
>pasture to another (sometimes they may be miles apart - or even in a
>different county altogether).


Rosalie

Use your own judgement.. then do as I say.


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