How much do you pay your farrier?
hor...@rosenet.net
How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
drop you as a client if not provided?
Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
Mary
Mark Barry
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
I pay $50 for Lite Steel shoes front and back, $40 for resets. I have never
been charged for anything else.
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you
care?
AFA Certified Journeyman Farrier. I asked, and I care.
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put
up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
I expect, as a minimum, that trims be correct, shoes fit properly, and that
shoes are not thrown on a regular basis. It happens sometimes. Once in a
year and a half. I have not had problems with broken appointments or being
late, but I do realize sometimes this will happen. The courtesy of a phone
call would be appreciated. My vet has not had occasion to work with my
farrier, but says his feet are fine.
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will
he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
I have never had to inquire about this, as I assume any professional is worth
this courtesy. Hooves and horse are clean and dry.
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
I write a check, which does not *ever* bounce.
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed
and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
5 y.o. TB, who has poor quality hoof (surprise, surprise) and cannot go
without shoes, period. Pleasure horse in the Portland, OR area.
Tiffany
The Purple Demon
: I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
: How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
: extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
$45 for hot shoeing. Rolls the toes in the front, squares toes in the
back (my mare over-reaches), this time he put clips on (which he pulled
himself). $15 to trim the baby.
: Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes, he's certified, and I know who he apprenticed with.
: What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
: with broken appointments,
No
:late arrivals, etc.?
Sometimes, if there's been a problem with a previous client.
: Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
: drop you as a client if not provided?
Doesn't require it, but it's nice. I have a covered area where we can
get out of the sun/rain.
: Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
Have done both. I have asked him to hold a check for a few days, and
he's billed me. I also do my share of paying promptly!
: Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
: differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
: use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
I live in Oregon, have an arab mare, and we do endurance and dressage.
I like my farrier very much. He does an -excellent- job, and I've
-never- had any problem with him. I feel really luck to have found him,
and dread the thought of having to find a different farrier. He's been
shoeing my horse for 2 years.
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Dave Lambert
|> I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
|>
|> How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
|> extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
The Farrier I use charges $65 for hot shoes (all four feet). My wife's horse
needs clips (which he pulls himself) and has not been charging me for them.
Also, he's been trimming the baby (6 month old) for free.
|>
|> Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
I believe he's AFA certified, but the reason I started using him is because of
all of the recommendations we received about him. I went to a local barn that
he shoes at and got to look at 10-15 horses he shoes regularly of a variety
of breeds. This is what made me want to use him more than a piece of paper
saying he's certified.
Don't get me wrong, I believe that certification is important. Especially for
those looking for a new farrier.
|>
|> What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
|> with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
|> your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
I expect a "clean" shoeing. By that I mean the shoes set close so that the
younger hourses don't pull them off 20 minutes after he leaves. I also don't
like for horses to go lame for a few days after a shoeing becuase the guy (or
lady ;) ) quicks the horses during trimming. I had a farrier try to explain
to that it was "normal" for them to limp right after he shod a horse... yeah
right, but that's a story for another post.
My farrier works *very* well with my horse. My wife was having trouble diagnosing
a slight limp in her appendix cross and the farrier met us at the vet's office
and they brainstormed together for a while. Luckily I have the type of vet
and farrier that understands that their jobs might overlap a little, but each
has a specialty and respects it.
|>
|> Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
|> drop you as a client if not provided?
Require? No. But he get's it anyway. We have a good shade tree for summer
shoeing and I've been known to pull the car out of the garage for a winter
shoeing since I don't have a large enough barn to shoe in.
|>
|> Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
We generally pay cash/check. This is not a requirement on his part. I
personally don't like to be billed for anything.
|>
|> Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
|> differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
|> use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
I live just north of Dallas, Texas. We have three horses, a 3 1/2 yr old QH
gelding for trail riding, a 4 1/2 yr old Appendix cross (wife's Hunter/Jumper),
and a 6 month old QH for use sometime in the distant future.
--
David Lambert
lam...@telecom.ti.com
Heather Shaw
in my same barn, that pay $150-200 every shoeing. I think you just have
to shop around. -H
Leslie Olson
>From: Jeff Jaquish <je...@az.com>
>Subject: Re: How much do you pay your farrier?
>Date: 27 Nov 1995 18:57:36 GMT
>My farrier is certified and has a very good general knowledge of hooves.
> He comes in any type of weather and I can usually get an appointment
>within a weeks time. He charges $15.00 for a trim and $40.00 for trimming
>and shoes. I doe not have a covered area for him to work, but we usually
>can find a high and dry spot in the paddock. One particularly wet season
>we took the horse out and worked on the cement driveway. He is very
>flexible. The thing I like the best about him is that if he feels a job
>requires more expertise than he has, he will recommend another farrier
>instead of pretending he knows and costing me alot of money while he
>experiments. I'm in the Northwest corner of the state of WA.
>Linda
I am located in Grass Valley, 60 miles east of Sacramento in northern
California. My farrier charges $60 for basic hot shoeing. However I am not
so lucky, I have a navicular horse. Egg Bars with pads cost $120 but can be
reset once. However I am now using aluminum egg bars for $90, they also can
be reset once if I stay off of hard ground! My farrier is wonderful and has
kept my mare sound for two years now, he always takes forever (3 hours) to
shoe, but I cant complain because I know he always does a good job!
Leslie Olson
>From: Heather Shaw <hs...@adobe.com>
>Subject: Farrier Charges - I pay $60
>Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:57:56 GMT
>I pay $60 for a full set with no pads. $70 for pads too. I have friends,
>in my same barn, that pay $150-200 every shoeing. I think you just have
>to shop around. -H
Yes, shopping is good, but in most cases you get what you pay for. If you do
not know a ggod farrier, ask your vet. They usually have a good list to go
from when one farrier makes a horse go lame and the vet ends up with it!
Jeff Jaquish
lex...@vnet.ibm.com
>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
I pay 45.00 for 4 new shoes with borium(spelling). I've never used clips
or rocker toes. He has never charged me a coming-out charge. I've had
him come to do 1 trim. It was 9.00 no extra fee. Special shoes are extra.
He came out once to put a raised hind shoe on a filly with a severe leg
injury.. I think it was 20 or 25. A reset is 35 or 40 ... can't remember for
sure. My girlfriend uses a different farrier and he charges 27.00 for reset
and 35.00 for new shoes all the way around.
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes, he does... tho I am not sure what it is...
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
Never been stood up if that is what you mean. He has called the night
before to reschedule. He's never been late, but he usually does me early
in the morning...If he was going to be late, he'd call me. My vet thinks he
is a decent farrier.. not the greatest, not the worst. They do work together
to help a problem horse. She suggests stuff and asks that I get his
opinion and vice versa.
>
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
I don't know what he requires as minimal working conditions. I have a
nice barn now with lights and door to close when its windy or cold. I have
fans running in the summer. I have not always had such nice facilities and
never had a problem finding someoen to shoe my horses. The guy I am
using now was not my farrier before I moved to this barn. I don't think he
would drop me as a client if I had to move them to a place without a barn.
I would do my best to provide some kind of shade and or shelter from the
weather.. for him and for the horse and me. I ALWAYS meet the farrier there
and hold the horses for him. I have them up and ready when he arrives.
I offer him a drink between horses. (he does 4 for me)
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
He gives me a bill and I give him a check right away. I'm sure he would
bill me later, but I'd prefer to pay him when he does it. If he comes out
to reset one inbetween appointments ..ie.. someone pulls off a shoe..
he does not charge me for putting that shoe back on.
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
I'm in Lexington Ky. He comes out for 4 horses and they are all pleasure
horses. 2 QH's, QH/TB cross, and a draft cross.
They are all really easy to shoe except teh QH/TB who gets a pit pissy
some times .. but he says she is pretty good compared to some of the
ones he does.
>Mary
>
Maureen (Lexington Ky)
Antony Jones
>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>
Hi,
interesting topic idea
My wife and I live in the UK in North Wales, we have had many of the
problems with farriers that you mentioned; but happily we now have an
excellent young farrier.
So here's some details for the debate:
Registered, yes he is [in the UK you must be by law, I believe the
exams are quite strict]
Shelter & firm standing : you don't need to provide it but obviously
he prefers it if you can
Punctuality : Normally to within 1/2 an hour of his appointment, he
telephones if he has problems. Also if you can't be there he doesn,t
mind, just leave the horses stabled & headcollars nearby and he'll get
on with it.
Horses that he shoes:
1 thoroughbred ex racehorse now hacked & x-countried
1 thoroughbred broodmare
1 3/4 thoroughbred 1/4 Fjord for hacking & x-country
1 retired 13-2 pony who I learnt to ride on 15 years ago !
Costs:
Call out fee none
no extra charge for Titanium tips
Additional fee for Surgical shoeing & studs/road nails
my latest bill was for :
1 set new shoes
1 1/2 sets of refits
1 1/2 trim but don't shoe
cost £75 sterling
Payment method can be cash, cheque or billed later, whichever suits.
Hope there's some food for thought here
Regards,
--
Antony
--
Antony Meyer Jones
Maria Meister
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
$60 for shoes - extra for rockers ($10). No ranch call fee.
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes, I care very much! Allan was referred to me by some friends from the track.
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
Allan is great! I started using him for his kindness at first. I had a mare that was 29 ans she had a hard time standing up on her=
back legs. She would smell the shoer coming and began to sweat as soom as he would pick up the first foot. One after another woul=
d get after her for taking her foot back after a few minutes - she would try and try and she finally could not stand any longer. Th=
e foot that was down would be bent in awful ways trying to take the weight. One shoer hit her after she finally had to pull her foo=
t away. I was appauled. Allan came out and let Pix lean against a wall. He gave her rests ever few mintues. Pix got to the point=
where she would not even break a sweat. I asked many people who know about shoing and they said he was good, so although I began u=
sing him for his kindness, I now use him for all my horses because he is good, too.
He also guarentees his work. If a shoe comes off for ANY reason in 30 days he will come back out free of charge. He also give the =
first of any type of corrective shoeing to you at no cost - until he finds out if what he is doing works - then he charges you for t=
he next "extra".
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
He does not require it, but I provide it!
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
I send him the check within a week.
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because
Northern California, USA
Pix was an Appy Grade Mare
Now I have a Reg Appy Mare and Reg Quarter Gelding that he does.
M. Brumbaugh
>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
>
Four Regular shoes, two front toe clips is $70. If you want aluminum
shoes or other "special" shoes, pads or other things - it's extra. I
think I heard my friend who gets aluminum's say they were $90.
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
>
My current farrier does not. Now that I know what I know - I would be
suspicious if I was trying him for the first time. But my farrier has
been shoeing my horse since BEFORE I bought him. (My horse had 3
other owners in the NE IL area before I ever set eyes on him - but now
he's mine till he dies.....)
My farrier tried to retire once. (a VERY dark period) The journeyman
farrier he tried to turn his business over to really screwed my horses
feet up badly. After one shoeing I was not going to let him touch my
horses feet again.
We then tried to get the other top shoer in our area (he does all the
big A circuit hunter/jumper barns) to come out and do our horses. He
didn't show for appointment, no calls, no explainations - blew us off
completely.
Fortunately, my farrier decided he hated retirement and moved back and
picked up his good customers again. My horse stays with this guy till
the end!
Actually though, we have had some new borders come in who are very
attached to their shoer. I've been able to watch this guy some and
think I will try him when my farrier decides that he wants to hang up
his cinchers for good. I don't know if he's "certified", I just like
how he works with the horses, and I see the work he does on the horses
he does.
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
As professionals, I expect my farrier and vet to be able to work
together and come to a single opinion on what is the best course of
action for my horse. I expect them to act as professionals - just the
same as any other professional. If that's a problem - then it's time
to find another professional to do the job
.
Our farrier shoes up at our barn every other Thursday. We usually
have 3 or 4 horses to shoe. If a horse throws a shoe, he will come
out and fix it (no charge). He's come to horse shows to fix thrown
shoes once in awhile.
If there is a need to get him to come out before his every other
Thursday, we call and he will work us in if possible.
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
We provide the best arrangement as possible for our farrier. Shoeing
is a tough job. Hard on the back, just tought work. It's hard enough
on good level ground (if your horse is good!) let alone trying to do
it on the side of some hill or in the mud!
My horse is at a large boarding facility (26 stalls down the mail
center aisle). There is a cement "curtin" at either end of the aisle.
Our farrier usually pulls up to the back of the barn and takes the
last set of cross ties so he's out of the way. He has a cement work
area, shade, we've got a pop machine, as well as a free water cooler.
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
Because we're a boarding facility, I find a bill written up and tucked
behind my horses feed card. We have 30 days to pay. You can leave a
check tucked into the clipboard that up for you to write your horses
name on when it's time for shoeing or you can mail it.
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
>
>Mary
This is all for NE IL (North of Chicago) generally a pretty expensive
place to live overall. (sigh...................)
M.
Kiss French. Drink California.
~ Jerry Mead
Irene Given
>
>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
** $130 for a full set of shoes, new or reset. No extra charge for clips or stud holes.
Never received and extra charge for "emergency" shoeing or a quick reset if a shoe got lose
before he was scheduled to be done.
>
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
** Selected farrier because (by reputation and the job he does) he's one of the best
in the Boston area!
>
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
** He's only not shown up on the scheduled day due to several emergencies which happened last minute.
Other wise, he's been there every time, whether or not I gave him a few hours or a few days notice.
** our vet and the farrier have a good working relationship.
>
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
** He leaves an invoice on the stall door and I send him a check.
>
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
** I must be in the WRONG part of the country when talking cost of shoeing!!! (I'm west
of Boston.) I have a 7 yr old 3/4 Trakehner gelding with EXCELLENT feet. I event
(training level this season, moving up to prelim next season) and he needs to be done
every 4-5 weeks throughout the spring, summer, and early fall. For the winter his back
shoes will come off, but that only reduced the bill to @ $75 because of borium.
Niccy Laktin
>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
I am charged $60 Canadian for shoes and application. I don't need any
special shoeing, so I don't know about clips, ect.
>Does your farrier have any certification?
Yes
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
I expect my farrier to know his job, and to do what is best for my horse.
My farrier actually told me my horse did not need shoes at all, even
though I ride in some rough country, as her feet are exceptional.
Experience as proved him correct as she has never come up lame. My
farrier is usually early, and I am the one who breaks appointments! :.)
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
He doesn't expect it, but he sure appreciates it!. Since he has not
dropped me as a client and all I have is a driveway for a workarea, I
would have to say no.
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
I pay cash or cheque then and there. It is the accepted way of doing
business uup here
>
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
I live up in British Columbia in a small town 5 hour drive north east of
Vancouver. I have a generic mare, and we trail ride, show eng and west,
team pen, event, gymkhana,and starting to rope.
I hope this will be of interest.
Sharon
>
Niccy Laktin
Niccy Laktin
Shea Grimm
>In article <N.112695....@rosenet.net>, hor...@rosenet.net says:
>>
>>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>>
>>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
>** $130 for a full set of shoes, new or reset. No extra charge for clips or stud holes.
>Never received and extra charge for "emergency" shoeing or a quick reset if a shoe got lose
>before he was scheduled to be done.
>
>>
$130?????? Is it just me, or is that a *lot* of money. Don't get me
wrong, I value farriers now probably more than ever, and i think I
would even pay $130 for a good one, but my farrier (back when I had a
horse *sob*) was great, and he was $70 for new shoes, $60 for a reset.
I live in the Pac NW, BTW.
Shea
>>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
>** Selected farrier because (by reputation and the job he does) he's one of the best
>in the Boston area!
>>
>>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
>** He's only not shown up on the scheduled day due to several emergencies which happened last minute.
>Other wise, he's been there every time, whether or not I gave him a few hours or a few days notice.
>** our vet and the farrier have a good working relationship.
>>
>>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
>** He leaves an invoice on the stall door and I send him a check.
>>
>>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
>** I must be in the WRONG part of the country when talking cost of shoeing!!! (I'm west
Jan Hellie
>|> I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>|> How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-ou=
t charge, etc.?
We pay $65 for a "normal," i.e., hot shoeing. During show
season, Sherman had titanium full rounds (custom shoes) in back
to provide extra support; they ran $120. "Normal" in front,
extra special sneaker in back...they worked & wore beautifully.
>|> Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes, full journeyman certification; he's also VP of the CFA
this year. Not braggin', well much anyway, but he keeps up
with all the latest techniques, yet prefers to shoe in a
traditional manner b4 moving on to other solutions. It's
important to me.
>|> What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? =
What does your vet think of your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
See certification ques above. Also, timeliness & working well
w/the vet are important. This is the 3 farrier w/whom we've
worked in nearly 10 years (1 left the area, 2nd one we moved
away from). A good working relationship is critical in my
mind. Requires courtesey & respect on both our parts. My
attitude is very 'team oriented,' especially during show
season. Our trainer, vet, farrier & chiropractor were keys to
success. No one less than the other.
>|> Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he drop you as a client if not provided?
Don't know about 'require' or dropping clients. Never occured
to me not to provide such a space, either at our previous
boarding stable or now at our own barn. Our farrier made
several design suggestions during the planning & lay-out phase
of barn-building which have turned out to be a blessing for
everyone working w/horses in the barn.
>|> Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
Mike, duct tapes the bill to the tack room door, we send off a
check.
>|> Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind a=
lso include the breed and use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
We're in northern San Benito County (about 50mi south of San
Jose, CA). We have an Arab gelding, showing dressage and a QH
used for pleasure riding w/an occasional dressage foray.
MELISSA REDFEARN
that. Here in Aubrey, Texas area we pay $45-$65. for a new set of shoes.
Melissa
Lorraine Lawler
either new shoes or a reset; $20 for a trim. Both my horses have
squared toes and the shoe extends a bit behind their foot. Their
legs/feet are in good shape so have never required anything special.
Farrier certification? He is AFA certified. However while I have been
using him for 6 years, I just found this out. I don't care about this,
since I've been happy with his shoeing.
Level of expertise? I have to confess that since I don't have any
problem feet, I don't much think about the level of expertise. The
shoes stay on until the next shoeing, he doesn't cut short so there is
no limping. If the occasional shoe gets thrown, he comes out and
replaces it for no charge.
Broken appointments/late arrivals? Each time the farrier comes, he
leaves a bill in the barn (we have our horses on our own property) and
on the reverse side is the next shoeing appointment. In 6 years, he's
forgotten 1 appointment and didn't show up for another one. We're at
work so being late is not an issue. The night before the shoeing I
leave him a message on his answering machine confirming the shoeing.
What does vet think of your farrier and do they work well together? I
know the farrier and my vet work together on other horses, but since
never had a problem with the feet, it hasn't been an issue for me.
Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place?
I don't know what he requires. My barn has a cement aisle, is well-lit
and ventilated, has crossties and a toilet. I always leave the horses
in their stalls on the day they will be shod, so he doesn't have to
take the time to get them.
Do you pay cash/check or get billed? The farrier leaves a bill each
time and I send him a check before the next shoeing.
Area of country, breed and use of horse? N.W. Indiana; 1 quarter/appy
cross and 1 Morab, both geldings; both pleasure horses.
I like my farrier: he's reliable, good with the horses, pickups up any
manure, sweeps up after himself and closes the street gates.
Irene Given
I agree that $130 is A LOT of money (!!!!) but, unfortunately, that's the
going price in the Boston area. I'm reading the other responses with envy!
-Irene
In article <49gjl6$6...@emerald.oz.net>, sh...@oz.net (Shea Grimm) says:
>
>igi...@arkwright.com (Irene Given) wrote:
>
>>In article <N.112695....@rosenet.net>, hor...@rosenet.net says:
>>>
>>>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>>>
>>>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>>>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
>
>>** $130 for a full set of shoes, new or reset. No extra charge for clips or stud holes.
>>Never received and extra charge for "emergency" shoeing or a quick reset if a shoe got lose
>>before he was scheduled to be done.
>>
>>>
>
>$130?????? Is it just me, or is that a *lot* of money. Don't get me
>wrong, I value farriers now probably more than ever, and i think I
>would even pay $130 for a good one, but my farrier (back when I had a
>horse *sob*) was great, and he was $70 for new shoes, $60 for a reset.
>
>I live in the Pac NW, BTW.
>
>Shea
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
>
>>** Selected farrier because (by reputation and the job he does) he's one of the best
>>in the Boston area!
>
>
>>>
>>>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>>>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>>>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
>
>>** He's only not shown up on the scheduled day due to several emergencies which happened last minute.
>>Other wise, he's been there every time, whether or not I gave him a few hours or a few days notice.
>
>>** our vet and the farrier have a good working relationship.
>
>
>>>
>>>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
>
>>** He leaves an invoice on the stall door and I send him a check.
>
>
>>>
>>>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>>>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>>>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
>
Juli Gumbiner
>$130?????? Is it just me, or is that a *lot* of money.
My farrier charges $135. My horse wears Shock-Tamer pads on his front feet,
and regular plates behind. He has very good feet, but some major ring bone.
It is expensive, but my farrier is the best in our area and helps keep my horse
sound.
>
>>>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you >care?
My farrier is fully certified, but I chose him because he has such a stellar
reputation among owners, trainers and vets in our area.
>
>>>
>>>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier?
I expect the very highest level of expertise.
>>>Do you have to put up with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.?
Very, very infrequently. He values our time as highly as we value his.
>>>What does your vet think of your farrier, and do they work well together to >help your horse?
I chose my farrier because of my vet's recommendation. They work together on a
weekly basis.
>>>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
If I'm there, I pay him. If not, he bills me.
>>>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>>>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>>>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
I live in Woodside, California -- 30 miles south of San Francisco. My horse is
an 18 year-old retired show jumper.
--jag
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Kristen Anderson
>
> I agree that $130 is A LOT of money (!!!!) but, unfortunately,
>that's the going price in the Boston area. I'm reading the other
>responses with envy!
>
> -Irene
My farrier is more expensive than many of the prices I've read here,
also. Shoeing runs between $85-$150 for me, depending on what I get.
New shoes, leather pads and borium all run the bill up. This winter
I'm thinking of letting her go barefoot behind, though.
I live also in the Boston area, and my farrier does excellent work.
He travels with a big walk in truck and has everything right on hand
at all times. I could find someone cheaper, but I am so happy with
him that I don't care to. I've had experience with 5 farriers, and
although he is the most expensive he does the best work. I think you
do get what you pay for, to some degree. Anyway my point being this
area does demand a higher price in general.
--
Kristen
Lunenburg, MA
nks...@swcp.com
>In <N.112695....@rosenet.net>, hor...@rosenet.net writes:
>>I would like to open a discussion on the subject of farrier charges.
>>
>>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
pay $25 for trim all around - my mare's never been shod.
>>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes - I was glad to hear about it but it wasn't a requirement.
>>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
She's never missed an appointment - one of us usually calls to
confirm. I've had no call to discuss either with the other.
>>
>>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>>drop you as a client if not provided?
No requirements that I'm aware of - obviuosly she looks for a level,
not too dusty place to stand my mare to facilitate an even trim
>>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
>
Both. If I'm there (most of the time) I pay directly by check,
otherwise I'm billed.
>>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
Albuquerque, NM ... Arabian mare ... pleasure riding in an arena and
along relatively unrocky ditch banks.
Nora Stoecker
debbie
a quarter horse. the barn were i board the blacksmith comes
weekly. 4 shoes (hot) cost $40 this includes clips, trailers,
rolled toes, etc. my horse wears titanium eggbars (currently
trying some wedge pads) and shoeing him cost $65 with reset
(usually one) $40. my horse toes-in and has low heesl hence
the special shoeing. we used handmade steel eggbars before,
but the titanium is great at not splitting up his hoove cause
they are so lite. has any one eles used tiatnium shoes? what
success have you had with eggbars??
Cintia Campello
The farrier has a military certification he is very punctual and he
work in good coperetion with the vet.
He requires a safe working place and he camers with hes own helper.
We payd him every second months.
MLP 0206
& shoeing costs from 35.00 to 45.00 for normal hot shoeing-up to 60. for
specials like clips, caulks, or vet. prescribed type of corrective work.
We also are blessed with great weather, (today 68 high, 44 low....no
rain since July) Alfalfa-145. ton now Oat hay/forage mix-130. ton now
Good grass hay just 65. ton (if bought during summer)......PS this
ranch/feed store is for sale....10 acres,custom home, 3 barns & going biz.
just $479K
Del Gardner
Here in New Jersey, I pay $20.00 for a trim and front shoes; $30.00 for a
trim and all four feet shod. However, next door to me, they pay
outrageously for their horses' trims and shoes! The farrier is from
Ireland and since two of their horses are from Ireland, they think this
guy is excellent. They get their horses trimmed, as needed, every four
to six weeks. By six weeks, the shoes begin to come off. When I am not
using my horse very often, she gets done every eight weeks. Never had
her throw a shoe with the nice dependable reasonable farrier.
Interesting, isn't it? Makes some people feel good to pay more. I've
owned my horse since 1973 (she's 28) and she's never been lame due to the
farrier. I did a dumb race once when I was young (and so was the horse)
on a firmly packed dirt road. She bruised both her front feet and was
slightly off. BTW, we won!! Del Medford NJ
Gib6025
and shoes run $35-$45 per horse. If you require clips, pad or any
combination a good hot shoe can run to $60.
My farrier is fully certified. He has a good reputation and most
importantly we work well together. He's always on time if not early! We
set our appointments at least 4-6 weeks in advance, he calls two days in
advance to make sure it's still a go. He very seldom needs to re-arrange
his schedule.
I always pay him by check.
I have four horses and one pony. We ride both for pleasure and in shows.
If needed my farrier will travel to meet me at a show if I loose a shoe
and am not more than 100 miles from home.
Kamm2MacD
little bit of corrective work. I love my shoer... he's excellent, quiet
with the horses, on time. He's worked wonders with afew prob's Tempest
had. We don't have an ideal place for him to work... dirt, no shade (he
does us at the crack of dawn in the hot weather). I pay each shoeing, but
I'm sure he's just bill me if I couldn't be there at the time of his work.
Certified, yes. I live in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada's in N.
CA... my mare is a quarter horse.... training level dressage & miles &
miles of relaxing trail fun-
Alice Grady
>
>How much do you pay your farrier for "normal" shoeing? Do you get charged
>extra for clips, rocker toes, a call fee or coming-out charge, etc.?
>
I ride the shoes down to nothing in 5 or 6 wks. No call fee.
>Does your farrier have any certification? Have you ever asked and do you care?
Yes-certified and did apprenticeship in England
>
>What level of expertise do you expect from your farrier? Do you have to put up
>with broken appointments, late arrivals, etc.? What does your vet think of
>your farrier, and do they work well together to help your horse?
>
I've used same farrier for over ten yrs...had one missed appointment due to his
family emergency.
>Does your farrier require a safe, level, dry or shaded working place? Will he
>drop you as a client if not provided?
Of course, seems like it would be silly to ask someone to work on an unsafe,
nonlevel, wet place out in the elements.
>
>Do you pay cash/check upon service or do you get billed for later payment?
>
Upon service...I like to be there, but I have left checks for him.
>Perhaps anyone who answers can include the area of the country because of
>differences in cost of living, and if you don't mind also include the breed and
>use of the animal being shod or trimmed.
Southeastern coastal VA, Paso Finos, long distance trail.
Alice>
>
Allie Davidson
In article <49ibk9$b...@cloner2.ix.netcom.com>,
Lorraine Lawler <roc...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>How much do you pay for normal shoeing? My farrier charges $60 for
Normal shoeing for my QH is $70.00, he requires nothing special.
Shoeing for Regal is $95.00 (OUCH!), he requires bar shoes in front. My
farrier is working to bring his front heels up and been able to bring
him up 3 degrees so far.
-Allie
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Jane Kilberg
Q#2: Certified Journeyman
Q#3: My farrier talks with me, educates me, explains things, questions me
to make sure he understands what I want done and listens to me. When he
works on a horse with special needs, he takes his time. If necessary, he
does research on any peculiar problems and works well with my vet nor is
he afraid of trying something new if he feels it will work for the
situation. He usually arrives within an hour of the scheduled appointment.
The only time he didn't show, nor called was when he found his dog beaten
to death.
Q#4: I have never heard John complain about his work area. I provide him a
covered area that is nice, well lighted and away from the harsh sun or
blue northers. He has told me some funny stories about other places and
some of the conditions he has had to work under, but John is not a person
who complains, but puts the need of the horse first over his discomfort.
He has even had to halter break a horse in order to trim his feet!
Q#5: I am usually present and pay by cheque, but if I'm not there, John
will either leave a bill or we play "catch-up" the next visit since he
usually comes every 4 -6 weeks.
Q#6: I live an hour's drive north of Houston, TX in Montgomery County and
breed & train Appaloosas. Currently we have 3 1995 designer models, 1
three year old, 3 broodmares with more in the bucket for 1996. For fun, I
trail ride, participate in parades, some open showing and have done
distance riding (endurance:50-75 mile rides) and cruise around the
neighborhood, ride to the corner store and visit neighbors. Saves gas! And
yes, my broodmares do ride.
down the sunny trails....
rocking jane
e-mail: jkil...@mcia.com
fax: (409) 231-2083
Iride
I am another horse owner in the Boston area who finds farrier costs very
high. I pay $100 for 4 hot shoes for my mare, who has good feet and
doesn't require anything special. In the winter she wears borium which
cost, I think, $20 more. One quirk that I've questioned my farrier about
is that he never resets, so it's $100 every time. When I asked about this
he said that after 5 or 6 weeks there isn't enough shoe left to reset.
(What is she wearing her shoes down on? Her turnout is limited and the
arena where we work has shaved leather footing.) BTW, I lived near
Toronto until 2 years ago and paid $60 for new shoes (which is about $42
US dollars) and $40 ($28 US) for a reset. Just my luck -- I think riding
is one of the few things that is more expensive on this side of the
border! My board costs have doubled too!
Anyways, in response to some of your other questions, what I look for in a
farrier is knowledge. Since I don't know that much about feet, or
shoeing, I want a farrier who I can trust to know and do what's best for
my horse.
At my barn the farrier comes on a regular schedule to do all the horses.
The staff at the barn are there to bring the horses in and to help if he
needs it, but generally he just cross-ties the horses and does his thing.
He leaves a bill for each owner in the tack room and we send him checks.
Interesting discussion you got going here!
Irene E.
DBJAPC
front. My farrier is probably a little above average in his ability to
enable
my horse to move a little better than he used to and to balance him
properly. I have paid alot more for alot less.
Susan Germain
> Interesting discussion you got going here!
>
> Irene E.
I agree. I'm from upstate NY, and my pony has never had shoes. I paid
$10-$15 a trim, depending on if I had one or two horses. I know a lot
about feet, and did my own for awhile, but it was quite tiring.
Now, I'm in central Mass and am charged $20-$25 for the same thing. I
think the farrier cuts too short, so we only get done three times a year.
Barefoot wears down on it's own.
Mass is expensive!
Susan
Elise Robocker
trimmed 13, ranging from 1st trim for the 3 weanlings (YES - they
behaved perfectly!! Always stress for me!!), 7 broodmares, 1 2yo,
my riding gelding and my 25yo retiree. He charges $14 ea. We have
them done every 3 mos or so depending on the growth.
Must say how pleased I am with this farrier. After using the same
one for 20 some years, we had to find a new one last spring. My
vet recommended this one and he's worked out so well. Since
summer, my riding gelding's feet are so well balanced they're
wearing off evenly and I probably get an extra 2-3 weeks before he
gets too long, and its not all toe length anymore.
We raise Welsh Cobs and have never had to shoe any of them, even
my riding on the roads doesn't chip these wonderful hard feet!
Farriers love them, except after a long dry spell and they're hard
as the ground!
Katheri365
the front is $40. I don't know how much just trimming is. My farrier
comes every five weeks. We tried going six but my geldings feet grow so
fast. The mare could probably go eight but it is simpler to do both at
the same time. I've used the same farrier for 16 years - no problems.
The few times we've thrown a shoe, he has come quickly to reset it and
doesn't charge for that.
Katherine :)
Dave Howe
front). We shoe every 6 weeks and are pleased with our Farrier. We ask
for JUST STRAIGHT AND LEVEL. If the horse throws a shoe within the 6
weeks he comes out within the same day usually and puts it back or
replaces it for free.
Regards, Dave in CA.
GRITA6673
(Dave Howe) writes:
>We pay $60 for one horse and $70 for the other (he gets pads in the
>front).
Wow. I feel your pain. My pony gets pads in front and shoes behind too,
and we are paying a TON for it. Like $70-$80 bucks. It's probably cause
he thinks my pony is a psycho (Albert doesn't like big people). I would
switch farriers xcept this guy is the farrier for our barn and I don't
really have a say in it. *But* whenever he comes to shows, he'll put back
a shoe on for free, if you have the shoe and the foot is okay and the shoe
is not all twisted. Gotta run,
~~Margot and Albert
Tigger6019
eggbars in front and regular behind, and $95 for a regular shoe job.
Hhhmmmm. I think I'll have a little CHAT with my farrier!
-Charlene
Noll
lei...@delphi.com
basically the going rate for a good farrier. We have cheaper ones.
I was paying $60, but not liking the job much. So i went for the
higher priced farrier, he did a MUCH better job. He charges $40
for just the front shoes. So, my whole farrier job was $120. :)
Leia
Peggy K775
behind when my horse lived at home in Palos Verdes. Now that he is in a
dressage barn in Riverside, I pay $110 for shoes without pads, but still
clips. In general, Riverside is cheaper than PV, so this shoer must just
be expensive.
Peggy, Jive and Cool
Palos Verdes,
near Los Angeles, California, USA
(pegg...@aol.com)
Linda Smith
and a trim cost $15.00.
Sounds like I have a good deal. I am totally shocked to see why people pay
for such things back east. Such as hay etc.
Linda
Neunzig
all around, $15 for trim. Special stuff (rolled toes, pads, etc. extra
but reasonable). $120 is unreal!!!
I'd go broke with 6 horses!!
Roger & Jean Hale
$17.50 for mulitples) I paid the farrier that crippled my horse for 6
months $80. I guess you don't always get what you pay for.
Georgeanne Wilcox
$15 for a trim and $90+ for special shoes.
Susan Scaro
In Ma on the south shore my pony's new feet cost $105....... no special
shoeing
Sheesh, I think you need another farrier -- I'm in Ma, near NH though, I
pay $83 for 4 new, with leather front pads. Resets are cheaper. I just
had snowball pads put on with resets, $77. A plus -- he's pleasant, and
will work with the way my horse grows his feet, rather than try to alter
nature. Dusty has kind of splayed back feet, and Jack lets him stay that
way. The previous farrier was always trying to make them *look* perfect,
at the expense of his comfort and ease of going.
The last time he came, it was frigid out, and I had brought some
fresh-brewed coffee and doughnuts for him. You'd think I'd given him the
winning lottery ticket, he was so surprised and touched by what I considered
a human courtesy.
Johdug
show horse. This same farrier gets $65 for the same job done down the road
at an "A- Circuit show-hunter barn. Many of my friends in the area pay
more at the "show barns". After reading prices around the country, I'm
giving my farrier a $10 raise!!!! _ Jennifer in
N.C.
CMR555
Strippie
front. WE came here from central Texas where a wonderful farrier was $30
for 4 shoes...boy do we miss those prices. Its nice to know just about
everyone has to pay high prices here on the east coast.
Does anyone know the answer if snow pads work...how much do they cost, do
they cause thrush, where do we get them, the farrier is having a hard time
finding them and we are currently under the blizzard of 96 and are ready
for warm riding weather!!!
Dick Weinkle
> In Ma on the south shore my pony's new feet cost $105....... no special
> shoeing
In Northen California, I pay 50.00, for special aluminum shoes on all four.
Justine
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Florida.
the Ramirez family
Good News Ranch
Brooksville,Fl
Frans Goddijn
DW> In Northen California, I pay 50.00, for special aluminum shoes
DW> on all four. Justine
Checking the four hooves and cutting the edges where necessary,
without putting on horseshoes, costs us 10 guilders, which is about
$7.50
We're lucky that the farrier lives on the farm where the horses also
live, so he doesn't have to drive a long way to see us!
Met hartelijke groet!
Frans Goddijn | bbs: +31 (0)26 3217041
Postbus 30196 | email: god...@fgbbs.iaf.nl
6803 AD Arnhem | fax: +31 (0)26 3210500
The Netherlands | http://www.pi.net/~fg
Shelle deVergie
foundation to a sound horse. Once you find a farrier that is properly
balancing the horses hooves and you like him, the cost should minimal to
the vets bills or heartbreak that could come from an imbalanced hoof.
Shelle
JessAllyn
P.S. for this area, this is a rare bargain (one of the many reasons that I
love my farrier, Gary Werner).
Christy Clark
Wow! I'm feeling pretty lucky to live
here in missouri where its not hard at all
to find a farrier for forty dollars all around.
And I found a really a good one who only charges
$25 for a full shoeing job. And that's also
all he charged for the first
time he shoed my horse--and being she's stubborn
as a mule and it was the first time she had been shoed
it was a job that was worth much more than that.
C.C.
HORSEMAN2
$100 for new shoes on our horses) is the unreliability. While our current
farrier has been quite good about showing up, the norm is to arrive
_hours_ late for an appointment where they insist that the owner be
present (probably so they won't have to wait a few days to get paid).
It is a shame that this lucrative of a business--and all cash, to
boot--doesn't attract better business people. I'd be a lot less upset
about the money if the service were better.
EGewirtz
$135
Above + drilling and tapping for 4 studs = $150
every five weeks in the winter and four in the summer
ouch but worth every penny
hor...@rosenet.net
>
MLP 0206
that my yearly costs per horse are $60 .......yes! I said yearly! A trim
every other month @ $10. equals 60 buck per critter.....right?
It helps that my breed registry & show assoc. demends that our horses be
exhibited bare=footed, no shoes of any type allowed! I raise Peruvian
Pasos & not only show but also trail ride them.....Just as my feet were a
lot tougher in those old hippie days when I went everywhere barefooted, so
are thiers.......
My farrier is one of those honest types, he admits that the use of shoes
will actually weaken the horses hoof....and shoes are not always as
neccessary as owners think they are.....but he'll do it if you want......
hor...@rosenet.net
> > Shelle RIGHT ON SHELLE The smallest price you can pay is money to your
> farrier. Geronimo Bayard Oregon Farrier.
> > ;
Mary Lark
HORSEMAN2 <hors...@aol.com> wrote:
>It is a shame that this lucrative of a business--and all cash, to
>boot--doesn't attract better business people. I'd be a lot less upset
>about the money if the service were better.
Name one lucrative business that *is* reliable:
business reliabile?
-------- ----------
doctors nope
lawyers na-uh
electricians forget it!
construction no way
plumbers nope
It's kind of up to you to search out and find the reliable
practitioners. Keep paying them as you wait hours on end ... they'll
keep making you wait!
OBHorsey: My farrier I could set my watch by. He's expensive. He's
good. AND he's reliable! My vet: Predictably late ...
--Mary
ml...@tfs.com
Concord, CA
hor...@rosenet.net
> My biggest gripe with most of the local farriers (aside from paying over
> $100 for new shoes on our horses) is the unreliability. While our current
> farrier has been quite good about showing up, the norm is to arrive
> _hours_ late for an appointment where they insist that the owner be
> present (probably so they won't have to wait a few days to get paid).
>
> boot--doesn't attract better business people. I'd be a lot less upset
> about the money if the service were better.
>
With regards to your being slightly upset with the quality of service that you
receive from your farrier, you have a right to be upset if things are as you
have said! However, why would you let people treat you like that? There are a
lot of dedicated professional farriers in this country. I am one and when I am
attending workshops, clinics, seminars, lectures and the AFA Convention, I see
hundreds of dedicated professionals.
You are obviously in an area that commands the national average high price for
horses shod. And therefore should be in reach of excellent Journeyman Farriers
who will value your business and respect the value of your time. My suggestion
to you would be to contact the American Farriers Assn. at 1-606-233-7411 and
request a list of Journeyman Farriers in your area. Also talk to other horse
owners and veterinarians and find out who they use.
If you have a farrier who is judged in your community as the best there is, you
still shouldn't put up with the lack of service you describe. There are a lot
of young farriers graduating from horse shoeing schools who could be cultivated
with intelligent and generous understanding. Who knows? You could wind up
with one of the best shoers in the country.
Good luck in your search. Most of us love working on horses, but we know the
horse owner pays the bill, and we professionals NEVER forget that.
Geronimo Bayard, farrier, Oakland, Oregon
Eileen Walker
>OBHorsey: My farrier I could set my watch by. He's expensive. He's
>good. AND he's reliable! My vet: Predictably late ...
are always secure in the fact that he can't escape us <g>. Our vet is
marvelous... often late, but he really is concerned for the horses (and since
he was the breeder for one of ours and it is the offspring of his stallion
with the best show record) he has a special interest. But all joking aside
we have had years of undependable farrier (and disappearing farrier) problems
and we are happy to have the one we do now. Three cheers for Steve Baney,
Ojai, CA!!!
David Poole
What kind of shoes are your horses wearing? Gold?
DTautz
vet. I quit using him when he charged $14 for a trim plus $10 for
mileage! The other farriers are just as good and include mileage in the
fee.
dt
sam duncan
shoe the horse, oh, while your at it would you trim the two new foals, (
never handled before mind you). and would you take a look at the back
foot of one of the mares. Never mind that the first horse was having a
bad day and took and extra 45 minutes. These last requests are going to
put you another 2 hours behind for your next appointment. That's the
primary reason they are late.
They want you there because it is your horse. You may be the one that
spoiled it. If the horse is a kicking rearing idiot, or a biter, or
resents having its feet handled. I certainly one the one that is
responsible in on the fun.
How much do you pay your farrier. Well, lets see you pay the plumber 60
dollars and hour labor, plus the parts, plus travel. You pay the TYV
repairman 45 dollars and hour plus the travel , plus parts. How about the
electrician, mileage, parts, and 60 dollars an hour labor.
Yet, this thing that kicks , bites, sits on, and they all do at some
times endanger the farrier. The calmest , best trained horse, that has a
cat jump out, a kid throw stick, horse fly bite, or any other thing that
causes it to jump, rear, or kick out could injure the guy for life.
Yeah, how much do you pay your farrier?
stumpy
around a while, and has dealt with it all.
A recent American Farriers Journal article listed reliability/punctuality
as the leading dissatisfaction expressed by customers. I believe most
conscientious, professional farriers strive for reliability, in spite of
extra unscheduled horses, travel problems, and even owners arriving late
for appointments.
Please consider that in any business relationship there are at least two
sides. If you walk into a new relationship full of resentment and
baggage from previous dealings over the "lucrative" aspects of the
business, insistance upon your presence, or the high cost, the farrier
may pick up on your bad vibes and put out some of his/her own.
Please consider the farrier's perspective. No one knows the first time
if your horse is a cupcake or a killer. Nor do they know whether you,
their new customer will be inclined to pay on delivery, or even pay
period. They probably would appreciate a little bit of support or even a
kind word over their efforts.
Finally please consider 3 tidbits for thought:
1) If it is just the horse and farrier, I doubt the horse would call an
ambulence or give first aid should an accident occur.
2) In the Netherlands (and perhaps other parts of Europe?), not only is
the owner present, but he/she holds the horse's feet for the farrier.
3) The new resident asked the old timer if the new town was a friendly
town. The old-timer asked "how was the last place you lived?" The
newcomer replied "terrible." The old-timer said "then you'll probably
find this place the same."
Jane Kilberg
Anything he wants....because he's a dang good, very qualified and
continuing educated guy who likes my horses because they are well
mannered when he takes care of them.
down the sunny trails....
Jane Kilberg
Rocking Double J Ranch
Sundance 500 Newsletter € the appaloosa appreciation society
Charles V. Britton
: In article <4eo5lo$d...@news.internetmci.com> sam duncan,
: sdu...@turbonet.com writes:
: >Yeah, how much do you pay your farrier?
:
: Anything he wants....because he's a dang good, very qualified and
: continuing educated guy who likes my horses because they are well
: mannered when he takes care of them.
our roads impossible -- Good fellow. And good barn manager to take all
the horses to him, clean up after them, while we owners are out at work.
Whew! my horses are in the right place.
Oh, yes, the price will be around $180 for 2 horses, including wide-web
aluminum for the front of one, extensive forging/shaping for backs of
both to enable an earlier breakover, etc.
Cheers!
Rose Britton
Jonathan Bello
summer days he gets lemonade and on cold winter days he get coffee or hot chocolate
Frazier41
comes every 2 weeks for 30 horses and he's good and reliable
Martha Sellers
>You pay how much? It cost us 15 dollars for a trem and 45 for shoes.
> What kind of shoes are your horses wearing? Gold?
I guess mine are platinum then at $75 a set. Hang around,
this survey just won't die and when you see the coastals, east
and west, checking in with 3 digit shoeing costs, then you
can start adding gemstones ;-)
Martha
--
Martha Sellers
Oakland, California
m_se...@riem.com
Jens Petersohn
shoes AND trimming the rears. That's cheap if you ask me. My horse is a sweety,
but I would *NOT* want to be nailing nails into his feet.
Jens
CA...@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu
tomorrow. I so excited! Thanks to everyone for your concern and support.
cheryl
Barb Shoemaker
CA...@slacvm.slac.Stanford.EDU wrote:
>Cheryl, That's great news. So happy for you. What about the other horse
is it doing OK?
Barb
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Cheryl Kreuzer
home tomorrow! Thank you, everyone, for your encouragement.
cheryl
M. Brumbaugh
>To everyone who has been following the Botulism thread - Penny is coming home
>tomorrow. I so excited! Thanks to everyone for your concern and support.
>cheryl
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Cheryl:
On a thoroughly rotten day at work - this make me smile instantly.
I'm so very glad for you!
Thanks for the piece of good news.
Mollie
PS: I'll second Barbs question - How's Penny's stable mate?
Kiss French. Drink California.
~ Jerry Mead
CA...@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu
Rosie, who also contract botulism, was put down last Friday. Chrissy,
who is not fed alfalfa (source of contamination), is fine.
cheryl
MLP 0206
Shoes 40.00 (yes, all 4!)
Corrective work.....up to 60.00
Lodi, calif.
Jane Kilberg
Cheryl posted a few days ago that Penny's stable mate didn't make it and
had to be put down. ;-(
Lucky Penny is a Lucky Penny saved. Congratulations Cheryl!
Paul Edward Matthaei
writes:
I'll assume that your new at this, "shoeing biz" and as such perhaps
thats all you should charge,"while your learning". I'm thinking that
you must spend around $10 for the shoes and I would guess that there is
some gas involved in going there and all the other expence in
driving!lets say $10 . I'll assume that your married and your wife is a
doctor so you don't have to worry about health in's. Your house must be
paid for- in short you do this for fun!!
I've been in CA and it;s not cheap to live there. If you are skilled at
what you do? you need to rethink your billing.
R E PRO
Here in S. Cal $80.00 shoes. $10.00 wedges on rear, and $15.00 leather
pads on front $105.00
Michele Goudie
to trailer four horses down to him to shoe at once. :)
Michele
--
I don't have kids....I have cats!
MissGPM
the fronts. $30 for trim and reset. You can get it cheaper if you're not
afraid you might be getting a butcher...which I almost did. No foot, no
horse. I now use one of the best farriers in town.
Gail M.
Skye88
shoes on front, trim behind.
Melissa
>Michele
Michele,
You're kidding! Are you talking 25 for a trim or 25 to shoe? My
farrier in California charges $20 for a trim, $50 for front shoes, and
I don't even wanna know how much for all around!!!! He's pricey but
well worth it. The cheapest I've even gotten front shoes was $35.
Anyway, there's my 2 cents worth!
Melissa Patton
kathy caliendo
extra is paid for hotshoes, clips or borium (essesntial for icy winters)
renee simpson
overdo it. On packin in what is the weight you can carry safely behind
and in front of the saddle. I heard it was 12 pounds behind the saddle.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks
Todgail
for a Morgan Horse is $50.00.
KGoldreyer
Mary McHugh
|> In southern California $75 for 4 hot kegs. $25 for a trim.
Just when I was about to session-kill this thread, I noticed the
user name.
Kip? Are you now officially de-lurking? Is it really you or is someone
just playing a joke on us?
Welcome to rec.equestrian!!!!
I really do enjoy your column and it is always the first thing I read
in my Practical Horseman.
Mary McHugh (and the gang of 3 Wilbur, Bub, & Khan)
kcar...@u.washington.edu
> I really do enjoy your column and it is always the first thing I read
> in my Practical Horseman.
>
Which hasn't been available in Seattle, WA at the newstands since December
17th!!!!!
Kris Carroll
kcar...@u.washington.edu
diana lee tracy
all around. My farrier is on the low side of the current price range.
IF you get SW of portland into the Rich Horse Country area, prices are
probably 50% higher.
Solefully
DLT
GJMarchand
recent issues of PH. I, too, look forward to her column each month, and
am currently waiting to find out how her custom-made saddle turns out! I
wish that PH would run some photos of Kip and Wachtel for her fans!
Becky in MN
Bill Debany
like this:
1-horse-shod-angled $65.00
1-pony-trimed $20.00
2-teeth floated @$20.00 $40.00
Total $125.00.
I thought that was reasonable for Bucks county, PA
--
Bill Debany
Willow Creek Farm
"The problem with following the herd is stepping in what they leave behind"
R. C. Nelson
will not do hot shoeing...
Irene Given
new set of shoes is "going rate" for the farriers in our area. I
just got my horse's front shoes (with borium and snow pads) reset this
week and the bill was $75. (He's barefoot behind for the winter.)
Next shoeing its back to $130 every 5 weeks.
I'm reading the other postings with envy!!!
In article <NEWTNews.8255792...@rosegate.nando.net>, Lara Katz <rose...@rosegate.nando.net> says:
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>> You're kidding! Are you talking 25 for a trim or 25 to shoe? My
>> farrier in California charges $20 for a trim, $50 for front shoes, and
>> I don't even wanna know how much for all around!!!! He's pricey but
>> well worth it. The cheapest I've even gotten front shoes was $35.
>> Anyway, there's my 2 cents worth!
>>
>> Melissa Patton
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>You guys are lucky! My horses range from $50-$95 to shoe all 4 feet. My
>dressage horse gets about $80 worth of shoes every 5 weeks to the day.
>Farrier is well worth it, but $25 sounds nice!
>
>lara katz
>rose...@nando.net
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Chad & Christine Grainger
I think I have everyone beat. My farrier is considered one of the best
in the area.
Hot forged-rolled toe with wedge pads and clips on front and rolled toe
behind $60
Hot forged rolled toe in front reset-trim hind $30
Reset four shoes $25
Trim foal; $10
Corrective trim mare: $15
Shoe with roll toe all around( mare had not been shod in eight years and
attempted to take the barn down, kicked the farrier and broke a raps) $30
He does everything from shoeing racehorses-$45 a set of plates to
dressage horses and cutting horses. He regularly attends seminars and is
more than willing to listen( he will watch you ride, talk to your vet,
or read anything you give him) He is very open minded and will work with
young horses.
Nicole