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Easygoer80

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May 10, 2004, 8:23:28 PM5/10/04
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Does anyone have any info concerning Heather Hill (Heatherton)? She
was recently booted out of our barn in Libertyville, Illinois, for
cause. There were tons of rumors swirling around concerning theft,
non-payment of bills, mistreatment of horses, etc.

Thanks.

TBTrlRider

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May 11, 2004, 2:36:44 PM5/11/04
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I emailed Easygoer privately, as I know of
a different Heather Hill. The gal I know is/was a trainer up in Wisconsin, she
started my Little Darlin' under saddle, then gave her a "tune up" before I
brought her
home nearly five years ago. There's no mistreatment, no unpaid bills,
etc regarding "my" Heather Hill.

Just wanted to keep things clear here.

Carol Nichols and Kylee
coincidently also in Libertyville, IL
(sometimes the horse world is *way* too small)

Linda Harms

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May 11, 2004, 3:57:34 PM5/11/04
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In article <20040511143644...@mb-m18.aol.com>,
tbtrl...@aol.com says...

And I don't know any of the Heather Hills but I've been meaning to
mention to you for a long time that the Libertyville Saddle Shop is one
of my favorite online tack suppliers.

Do you frequent that store?

--
************************************
Linda Harms
New York, NY

Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.

Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5

TBTrlRider

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May 11, 2004, 10:22:16 PM5/11/04
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Linda wrote:
>I've been meaning to
>mention to you for a long time that the Libertyville Saddle Shop is one
>of my favorite online tack suppliers.
>
>Do you frequent that store?
>

Oh yeah......
If I'm in need of anything, I'll usually stop in and see if they have
it---they're right around the corner from my barn, I drive past to get to my
accountant's office, etc etc.
Honestly, they don't have as much as they used to "in stock", but the catalog
store is nearby, so they can usually get it pretty quickly if you need it.
I had more fun there shopping for trailers last year than anything else.
Sometimes I think Ron got tired of me stopping in and asking questions and
finally gave me a good price (ok, decent price) on the trailer I wanted and the
deal was done.
Funny how dropping $13K gets you on a first-name basis with people <g>.

Carol Nichols and Kylee, going to the vet tomorrow in the new trailer
in Libertyville, IL

Robby Johnson

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May 12, 2004, 12:16:33 PM5/12/04
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How interesting. I actually know a Heather Hill who was here in Arkansas
for a bit but also moved back to Wisconsin last fall. She had paint horses
but was probably only 22 or so. She was very sweet and would've never
mistreated a horse.

Robby

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Michele Goudie

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May 12, 2004, 2:58:24 PM5/12/04
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"TBTrlRider" <tbtrl...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Linda wrote:
> >I've been meaning to
> >mention to you for a long time that the Libertyville Saddle Shop is one
> >of my favorite online tack suppliers.
> >
> >Do you frequent that store?
> >
>
> Oh yeah......

"I love the smell of leather in LSS."

Although their lack of stock for basic supplies is annoying as hell. It's
almost worth it to take the extra 10 minutes to Gurnee for STL to get
something.

Frequent the place long enough and you get on a first name basis with just
about everyone.

Carol: I don't know if the pic is still up at the Western counter, but if
you ever see a picture of a big red Belgian wearing a tiny black Western
saddle, that's my old man. One of the salespeople wanted a picture of him
wearing it.

Michele


law

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May 12, 2004, 3:11:37 PM5/12/04
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Robby Johnson wrote:
> How interesting. I actually know a Heather Hill who was here in Arkansas
> for a bit but also moved back to Wisconsin last fall. She had paint horses
> but was probably only 22 or so. She was very sweet and would've never
> mistreated a horse.
>

YMMV, but my first reaction to the first post was that it was a nasty
little attempt to cause gossip about someone. Why else post such a
thing on an open newsgroup??


--

LisaW

"we recognize that there is no good greater than our own."
- Terry Von Gease, 2-25-04

Linda Harms

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May 12, 2004, 4:58:44 PM5/12/04
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In article <20040511222216...@mb-m12.aol.com>,
tbtrl...@aol.com says...

This afternoon, on my lunch break, I walked down to our only tack store,
Copperfields. The New Yawkers and ex-New Yawkers in this NG remember it
as Millers. The new owners, to their credit, did not gut the store and
redecorate -- the store has the same ambiance as before (Snooty English
Diva), but with the merchandise rearranged. The saddles, which used to
be in basement, are now just inside the front door. That wonderful
smell of new leather hits you as you walk in. Ahhhh.

I bought a hard-rubber curry, one of those with the big rubber knobs,
which are great for shedding. I probably only paid $1 more than it
would have cost from a catalogue. Also picked up a pair of Tuff Rider
breeches, which were only $2 more than they cost on the Equestrian
Collections website. I was truly shocked by the competitive prices!

While I was trying on the breeches I overheard a customer ask the
manager if they "carried Western." The man nearly had an aneurism. "We
are east of the Mississippi!" he told her hautily. But then he very
generously recommended that she visit Whiskey Dust, a cowboy wannabe
store on Hudson street that carries vintage Western clothes and boots.

Robin Ryan

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May 12, 2004, 11:32:42 PM5/12/04
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"law" <lawiser...@nospamatt.net> wrote in message
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> Robby Johnson wrote:
> > How interesting. I actually know a Heather Hill who was here in
Arkansas
> > for a bit but also moved back to Wisconsin last fall. She had paint
horses
> > but was probably only 22 or so. She was very sweet and would've never
> > mistreated a horse.
> >
>
> YMMV, but my first reaction to the first post was that it was a nasty
> little attempt to cause gossip about someone. Why else post such a
> thing on an open newsgroup??
>
>
Lisa, I thought the exact same thing. Pretty inappropriate.

Robin


TBTrlRider

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May 13, 2004, 8:49:10 AM5/13/04
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Lisa W wrote:
>YMMV, but my first reaction to the first post was that it was a nasty
>little attempt to cause gossip about someone. Why else post such a
>thing on an open newsgroup??
>

My thoughts exactly, which is why I emailed her privately at first. When I
found out a little more of the story, I posted my reply--my "discovery" of
multiple Heathers--on the Wreck.

Robby wrote:
>> How interesting. I actually know a Heather Hill who was here in Arkansas
>> for a bit but also moved back to Wisconsin last fall. She had paint horses
>> but was probably only 22 or so. She was very sweet and would've never
>> mistreated a horse.

A common name, I guess <g>. The
Heather I know is probably in her 30's, married with 2 kids. Nice family.

Carol Nichols and Kylee
Libertyville, IL

TBTrlRider

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May 13, 2004, 8:52:02 AM5/13/04
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Michele Goudie wrote:
>Although their lack of stock for basic supplies is annoying as hell. It's
>almost worth it to take the extra 10 minutes to Gurnee for STL to get
>something.

Yup. Tho lately I've been at Saddler's Row and Barrington to get decent No-Bow
wraps for the Beast. Pet Smart is nice 'cause I can pick up horse supplies and
dog food at the same time.

>Carol: I don't know if the pic is still up at the Western counter, but if
>you ever see a picture of a big red Belgian wearing a tiny black Western
>saddle, that's my old man. One of the salespeople wanted a picture of him
>wearing it.

Haven't noticed it, but will look next time in.

Carol Nichols and Kylee
Lbertyville, IL

TBTrlRider

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May 13, 2004, 8:55:01 AM5/13/04
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Linda Harms wrote, re: a New York tack store:

>
>While I was trying on the breeches I overheard a customer ask the
>manager if they "carried Western." The man nearly had an aneurism. "We
>are east of the Mississippi!" he told her hautily.

Hehe. I'll bet that's the reaction you'd get if you asked for "western" at
Barrington or Saddler's Row (the two "premier" english shops in the area) <BG>.

Easygoer80

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May 14, 2004, 1:14:57 AM5/14/04
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Inappropriate Robin and Lisa? A little nasty you think? Let play a
game. Your HH. You move your operation to our barn. You say you're
a champion international show jumper. You set the world record for
the youngest person to ever jump 6' 8" (even though such a height is a
little odd). So we check you out on Google. Just for fun. Nothing,
just an old address in Valpo Indiana. Well maybe you competed under
your married name - Heather Jayne - ex-wife of Danny Jayne. Nope,
nothing except an odd reference to Silas Jayne. Ever heard of him
either of you two??? Lisa??? Robin?? Well you say, guilt by
association is hardly fair and maybe you're right. Let's look
further. You pay your board bill (8 horses) with third-party checks -
15 days late- every month. You wouldn't be having trouble
establishing a checking account would you? Maybe an old IRS lien?
Maybe it's nothing? You then hire a groom. A nice guy who works for
you for 3 months but you pay him for 1 week. You give some lame
excuse about not being up to the job. Illegal immigrant anyway. Then
there's your farrier. Two rounds of shoeing and you pay zipo. Same
deal for your trainers. So management finally tosses your backside
out. Where do you go? What better place than a barn with ties to
Ross Hugi. Convicted felon Ross Hugi. In case you aren't familiar
with him Lisa, rumor has it he's one bad son-of-a-bitch when it comes
to horses.


My intention in posting to the group was NOT to slander someone. To
start a rumor. To be nasty. I was just trying to ascertain just how
big a bullet we dodged! Guess we knew more than you. Count your
blessings, HH may be coming to a barn near you.

law

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May 14, 2004, 6:28:26 PM5/14/04
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Some anonymous person calling themselves Easygoer80 wrote:
> Inappropriate Robin and Lisa? A little nasty you think? Let play a
> game.

Ah, but just coming onto a newsgroup --- one you haven't been on before
AFAIK, bring up a name (and it's not, obviously, like the HH YOU named
is the only person named HH), bring up bad junk about that person -- but
with no background -- yeah, I still think it's nasty.

Personally, I don't know (or, probably, care to know) any of those
people. However, apparently from your own write up, you aren't real
bright about allowing people into your barn. You checked up on the
claims, found nothing and didn't think that strange? You allowed
payment late every month and didn't suggest the person leave? And,
apparently, HH was in your barn for 3 months? You allowed some poor
groom to work for no pay in your barn without doing something? Oh,
that's right, they were an illegal -- so what?

Yeah -- still think it's nasty.

Robin Ryan

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May 14, 2004, 7:17:45 PM5/14/04
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"Easygoer80" <easygo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Inappropriate Robin and Lisa? A little nasty you think? Let play a
> game.

I'm not sure I want to play games with you. Did a little search on your
username on Google groups, and didn't find much in the way of equine
pursuits. Mostly posts on alt.sex.swingers and alt.backrubs and
pdaxs.services.massage. I'm not near as "nasty" as you are...

Sorry to 'dis ya, but when you post bad things about someone under an
anonymous name, when you don't have a regular presence on this NG, it raises
suspicions.

Better go back to those other NGs, maybe you'll be more at home.

Robin


sheri0314

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Feb 1, 2005, 12:42:11 PM2/1/05
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I remember Heather back in Crown Point, Indiana - back around 1975. She
would have been only a teenager then. She did marry Danny Jayne, got
divorced, and moved back to Indiana.
Here's what I recall about her:
She blinded a horse in one eye as a teenager. She had a temper tantrum at
a stable called Lake Hill Downs. She smacked the horse in the head with
her crop and blinded him - and she showed no remorse.
She had a grey jumper mare, Swift Gazelle, and rode with a trainer named
Chuck Layton.
Last I heard, she was marrying a dentist in Indiana - but that was back
about 10 years ago or so.
Funny, you mention her,,,,such a long time ago.

sheri0314

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Feb 1, 2005, 3:44:07 PM2/1/05
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And her name used to be Heather Kissinger, before marrying Danny Jayne, and
then followed by Hill.

sheri0314

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Feb 1, 2005, 3:44:37 PM2/1/05
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menageriemom

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Jun 24, 2006, 1:20:48 PM6/24/06
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I was googling Danny Jayne and caught this post. I used to work for Danny
and Heather in Chicago. Just kind of wondering where they were and if
they were still doing the horse thing. Um, I can believe the money
stuff--always was an issue when I worked for them. I never saw Heather
treat a horse badly, however. Didn't know "who" they were related to
until after I came back to California--scary stuff. About six months
after I left there was a huge raid on the stables and everyone (except
Danny and Heather)got arrested on drug charges. Frank, Danny's dad, was
finally convicted, 17 years after the fact, of burning down the barn that
I worked in for the insurance money. Last time I talked with Danny he was
down in southern California working as a trainer. I think he is back in
Illinois now, however. I always had the feeling that Heather led him
around by the nose while they were married. I absolutely despised the
woman. She was such a fake. Never saw her actually ride in a
competition. She liked working with young girls for the hero-factor, I
think. Danny, however, could ride. Watched him take a very green horse
over a 6' wall like it was nothing. Impressive stuff. He has had some
legal troubles himself but I think he is okay now. So if anyone knows
where he is or has heard of him, I was just feeling nostalgic and
wondering how he is. Thanks.

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