"Jus de Pommes" dead!
Thorsten Guenther
"Jus de Pommes", 1996 Olympic Games gold medalist, died yesterday. The
stallion only became 10 years old.
Thorsten
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Barbie Asplundh
What did he die from?
Rsabbie
Do you know the cause of death?
Phetsy Calderon
Thorsten Guenther wrote:
>
> "Jus de Pommes", 1996 Olympic Games gold medalist, died yesterday. The
> stallion only became 10 years old.
Oh no! What a beautiful horse, and a wonderfully schooled one. Was his
death due to accident, by any chance?
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Inger
Barbie Asplundh wrote:
>
> What did he die from?
According to Swedish television he died from blood poisoning, (they did
not give any details).
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Lucy
guen...@cabal.shnet.org (Thorsten Guenther) wrote:
>
>"Jus de Pommes", 1996 Olympic Games gold medalist, died yesterday. The
>stallion only became 10 years old.
>
Can you give us more information about this?
(or can anyone else for that matter?)
Lucy
User252790
How very sad...
'bye Apple Juice.
Virginia Benjamin
From several sources, it sounds to me like JdP had colic surgery at a
German veterinary hospital and did not recuperate successfully...
I have no information about the chronology of events after Aug.4 when he won
the individual gold medal(ie. when he was flown back to Germany, when any
symptoms were first observed, when the surgery occurred, or how long he
survived following surgery..) guess we'll have to wait for the horse publica-
tions to inform us..
what a horrible loss for his owners and the eq community worldwide!He was truly
a superstar!
virginia benjamin(vbe...@uga.cc.uga.edu)
athens, ga.
In article <4vublg$k...@romeo.logica.co.uk>
kcar...@u.washington.edu
In article <504n58$f...@news.fsu.edu> Cheryll Frank <cmf...@polaris.net>
writes:
> Short brief about Jus de Pomme's death on NGL website
>
> http://www.showjump.com
>
> See What's Hot
be happy to, as long as I don't see any more of my art there with your
copyright on it. Never did get that apology you surely sent.
Kris Carroll
Cheryll Frank
Cheryll Frank
>be happy to, as long as I don't see any more of my art there with your
>copyright on it. Never did get that apology you surely sent.
>
>Kris Carroll
Dear Kris;
Please specifiy exactly what art work of yours appears on the National
Grand Prix League site and we will surely apologize.
I have been doing the NGL artwork for the past 7 years and we NEVER use
materials without permission. The fact, that I am an artist myself makes
it uneccessary for us to plagarize anyone's materials. In fact the only
artwork I can remember even appearing on that site is the drawing of the
horse in the cooler with the jack russel terrier which appears on the
"Standings" page. I know who did that one as the original hangs in my
dining room!
Any photographs which appear are credited to the individual photographers
who have worked closely with the National Grand Prix League for many
years.
I hope that you are not confusing us with another website and making
libelous accusations without proper information or claiming credit for
something that is not yours.
The National Grand Prix League is a non-profit organisation dedicated to
the promotion of the sport of show jumping蟻 feat we accomplish through
the publication of Power & Speed and the Power & Speed Update as well as
our website. We are NOT to be confused with the many small commercial
websites out there which are designed to make a quick buck under the
guise of public service.
I look forward to your reply.
Sincerely
Cheryll Frank
webmaster and editor of Power & Speed
kcar...@u.washington.edu
To see the use of my art by http://www.showjump.com see
http://www.pathology.washington.edu/Horse/theft.html
I'd be happy to discuss liable with you anytime. Instead of replying in
public, perhaps next time you'd should check your facts first. I feel the
net community deserves occasional reminders about sleazy web site practices.
Since you didn't sign your name, who knew you were not Mr. Estes.
Rec.eq - Who's making that Caveat emptor list anyway?
Kris Carroll
kcar...@u.washington.edu
In article <506qao$q...@news.fsu.edu> Cheryll Frank <cmf...@polaris.net>
writes:
> Dear Kris;
>
> Please specifiy exactly what art work of yours appears on the National
> Grand Prix League site and we will surely apologize.
> I have been doing the NGL artwork for the past 7 years and we NEVER use
> materials without permission. The fact, that I am an artist myself makes
> it uneccessary for us to plagarize anyone's materials. In fact the only
> artwork I can remember even appearing on that site is the drawing of the
> horse in the cooler with the jack russel terrier which appears on the
> "Standings" page. I know who did that one as the original hangs in my
> dining room!
>
> Any photographs which appear are credited to the individual photographers
> who have worked closely with the National Grand Prix League for many
> years.
>
> I hope that you are not confusing us with another website and making
> libelous accusations without proper information or claiming credit for
> something that is not yours.
>
> The National Grand Prix League is a non-profit organisation dedicated to
> the promotion of the sport of show jumping a feat we accomplish through
Cheryll Frank
In an earlier post, Kristine Carroll erroneously accused the NGL of using
her artwork without permission. Below is the reply I received to my post
setting (I thought) the record straight. Ms. Carroll has obviously not,
and does not intend to, take even the slightest effort to verify that she
is accusing the right party.
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 08:53:43 -0700 (GMT-0700)
From: Kristine Carroll <kcar...@u.washington.edu>
Sender: Kristine Carroll <kcar...@jane.u.washington.edu>
Subject: Artistic copyright
To: cmf...@polaris.net
>To see the use of my art by http://www.showjump.com see
>http://www.pathology.washington.edu/Horse/theft.html
Kris has alleged that her artwork was used by the Hunter Jumper Network,
URL
http://www.hunt-jump.com
NOT THE National Grand Prix League, whose URL is
http://www.showjump.com
The similiarity in our domain names in NO WAY implies an association
between our organizations any more than a similiarity of phone numbers
would.
This fact could have easily been verified by Ms. Carroll simply checking
the website out, or even consulting the InterNic registry of domain names!
I strongly suggest that Ms. Carroll or anyone else with a legitimate
complaint PLEASE double check the URL in question before you accuse a
reputable organization of wrong doing!
Ms. Carroll goes on to sayŠ
>I'd be happy to discuss libel with you anytime. Instead of replying in
>public, perhaps next time you should check your facts first. I feel the
>net community deserves occasional reminders about sleazy web site practices.
>Since you didn't sign your name, who knew you were not Mr. Estes.
I am incensed that a supposed do-gooder on the net would make a public
accusation against a worthy organization then have the unmitigated gall
to criticize a public reply. This is a "sleazy web practice" in it's own
right and has no place in this public forum. Yes, Ms. Carroll, maybe we
should seriously discuss libel unless the National Grand Prix League
receives a very public apology.
Your feud with Mr. Estes, whoever he is, has nothing whatever to do with
the NGL!
Cheryll Frank
The National Grand Prix League
http://www.showjump.com ( We are NOT http://www.hunt-jump.com)
Barbara Elliott
kcar...@u.washington.edu wrote:
>
> Your previous post said:
> Short brief about Jus de Pomme's death on NGL website
> http://www.showjump.com
> See What's Hot
>
> http://www.pathology.washington.edu/Horse/theft.html
>
> public, perhaps next time you'd should check your facts first. I feel the
> net community deserves occasional reminders about sleazy web site practices.
> Since you didn't sign your name, who knew you were not Mr. Estes.
>
Kris, your Web page shows your map being used by www.hunt-jump.com,
The Hunter-Jumper Network, not Cheryll's www.showjump.com, the National
Grand Prix League. These are two different sites in two different
places.
We *all* need to be careful about checking our facts first before
publicly accusing anyone of sleazy practices. And when you accuse
someone of stealing from you in public, she is entitled to reply in
public. Cheryll's name is in her email address. It's not hard to
read.
I think you owe her an apology.
Barb
-------------------------------------------------------
Barbara Elliott, Belfountain, Ontario, Canada
b...@vnet.ibm.com / ell...@caledon.org / b...@mtnlake.com
Deborah Stevenson
>public. Cheryll's name is in her email address. It's not hard to
>read.
Without getting into the rest of the question here--it's generally
advisable to put your name in the actual post as well if you want
identity to be clear. Aside from the fact that many people's headers are
wrongly configured, when Usenet groups are received via email gateway
digest the headers are often stripped, so the fact that an address is in
your header doesn't mean it's in everyone's. So a name can be *very*
hard to read if you don't put it in the post :-).
Condensed version: a lot of people can't see headers. Put your name at
the bottom.
Deborah Stevenson (stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Heading and heeling in Champaign, IL, USA
Kamm2MacD
>Under the circumstances I do owe Cheryll an apology. >However, given the
mood
>I'm in I'll pass. Proceed as you wish Ms. Frank.
>Kris Carroll
sleazy, cheap shot Kris. Especially in a public forum.
eleanore
kcar...@u.washington.edu
In article <5079nn$7...@news.fsu.edu> Cheryll Frank <cmf...@polaris.net>
writes:
> I am incensed that a supposed do-gooder on the net would make a public
> accusation against a worthy organization then have the unmitigated gall
> to criticize a public reply. This is a "sleazy web practice" in it's own
> right and has no place in this public forum. Yes, Ms. Carroll, maybe we
> should seriously discuss libel unless the National Grand Prix League
> receives a very public apology.
>
> Cheryll Frank
> The National Grand Prix League
> http://www.showjump.com ( We are NOT http://www.hunt-jump.com)
Under the circumstances I do owe Cheryll an apology. However, given the mood
Elisathree
In article <5079nn$7...@news.fsu.edu> Cheryll Frank <cmf...@polaris.net>
writes:
> I am incensed that a supposed do-gooder on the net would make a public
> accusation against a worthy organization then have the unmitigated gall
> to criticize a public reply. This is a "sleazy web practice" in it's own
> right and has no place in this public forum. Yes, Ms. Carroll, maybe we
> should seriously discuss libel unless the National Grand Prix League
> receives a very public apology.
>
> Cheryll Frank
> The National Grand Prix League
> http://www.showjump.com ( We are NOT http://www.hunt-jump.com)
>>Then we have Ms. Kris Carroll's response:
>>Under the circumstances I do owe Cheryll an apology. However, given the
>>mood I'm in I'll pass. Proceed as you wish Ms. Frank.
>>Kris Carroll
333333333333333333333333333333333333
Real nice, Kris. Hope you get a grip on your emotions with your students
and horses better than this, or do you have any students and/or horses?
Elisa
333333333333333333333333333333333333
Cheryll Frank
Since Kristine has not had the good grace to post her apology several
hours after it was emailed to me, I'll do it myself. What she does not
appreciate is that she is not insulting me nor apologizing to me.
We are all sensitive to the issues copyright infringement as well as the
issues of freedom of speech. However, freedom of speech does not
guarantee freedom of responsibility for our actions or words. The
National Grand Prix League is comprised of 45 of the top hunter-jumper
shows in the U.S. and Canada and our board members are some of the
leading horsemen in North America, including more than one former
Olympian.
By carelessly making unfounded accusations, Ms. Carroll has indirectly
maligned the integrity all of these member events as well as individuals
who have selflessly given their time to the growth of the sport of show
jumping.
Her actions have made it necessary for me to forward her unfortunate
correspondence to the board, who may otherwise hear of all this dialogue
through some other unreliable source. What actions the board chooses to
take or not take is beyond the scope of my duties as an editor.
At this point Ms. Carroll it is out of Ms. Frank's hands.
>Under the circumstances I do owe Cheryll an apology. However, given the mood
>I'm in I'll pass. Proceed as you wish Ms. Frank.
>Kris Carroll
>posted and mailed
Jeanne M. Hinds
> >Under the circumstances I do owe Cheryll an apology. >However, given the
> mood
> >I'm in I'll pass. Proceed as you wish Ms. Frank.
>
> >Kris Carroll
Letting your emotions determine whether one does the right thing is
foolish, particularly when confronted by evidence that indicates one is
wrong.
My respect for you just slipped about twenty notches.
+----------------------------+------------------------------------+
| Jeanne Hinds | "Criticism is something we can |
| | avoid easily - by saying nothing, |
| | doing nothing, and being nothing." |
| jmh...@nando.net (home) | |
| | Aristotle |
+----------------------------+------------------------------------+
Joyce Reynolds-Ward
In article <507cn0$p...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>,
kcar...@u.washington.edu wrote:
>In article <5079nn$7...@news.fsu.edu> Cheryll Frank <cmf...@polaris.net>
>writes:
>> I am incensed that a supposed do-gooder on the net would make a public
>> accusation against a worthy organization then have the unmitigated gall
>> to criticize a public reply. This is a "sleazy web practice" in it's own
>> right and has no place in this public forum. Yes, Ms. Carroll, maybe we
>> should seriously discuss libel unless the National Grand Prix League
>> receives a very public apology.
>
>>
>> Cheryll Frank
>I'm in I'll pass. Proceed as you wish Ms. Frank.
And this is the person who complains about Sheila? C'mon, Kris. I can
understand anger about being ripped off artistically--having had it happen to
me. But apologies for false accusations *are* due.
And considering the week *I've* had...I could justify outflaming Sheila, but
I'm not gonna.
jrw
Linda B. Merims
Cheryll Frank (cmf...@polaris.net) wrote:
:...
: National Grand Prix League is comprised of 45 of the top hunter-jumper
: shows in the U.S. and Canada and our board members are some of the
: leading horsemen in North America, including more than one former
: Olympian.
: By carelessly making unfounded accusations, Ms. Carroll has indirectly
: maligned the integrity all of these member events as well as individuals
: who have selflessly given their time to the growth of the sport of show
: jumping.
: Her actions have made it necessary for me to forward her unfortunate
: correspondence to the board, who may otherwise hear of all this dialogue
: through some other unreliable source. What actions the board chooses to
: take or not take is beyond the scope of my duties as an editor.
: At this point Ms. Carroll it is out of Ms. Frank's hands.
Well, showjump.com just went on my list of NEVER visit web sites.
Cheryl, what the Board and its lawyers will likely do is
tell you to grow up. It is my personal opinion that your
behavior on this matter has done much more to malign the
reputation of the National Grand Prix League than anything
Kris said. Remember, you're they're representative here
on rec.equestrian and I think who they've got representing
them is a petty bully.
In my 20 years of experience on the Net, the only ones who
go around threatening to sue people are the sleazoid rip-off
artists.
Please publish the address of your Board of Directors. If
your version of this story is all they hear about, they
are likely to join you in making complete fools of themselves.
Linda B. Merims
l...@ici.net
Massachusetts, USA
Cheryll Frank
>Well, showjump.com just went on my list of NEVER visit web sites.
Sorry you feel that way, but depriving yourself of a source of
information for spite is somewhat self-limiting, especially considering
the fact that the NGL is non-commercial and derives no direct benefit
from the number of hits on its website. The website is a service we
provide to our member events and the general public砧uch like our color
yearbook, Power & Speed, which is distributed free of charge for the
education of spectators at 45 member events nationwide.
>In my 20 years of experience on the Net, the only ones who
>go around threatening to sue people are the sleazoid rip-off
>artists.
Please be advised that I never threatened to sue anyone. I merely
described Ms. Carroll's inflammatory accusations as libelous, which they
are. And, as an employee of the League it is my duty to provide my board
with a complete transcript of the dialogue on rec.eq for their files. In
my book that's only good business.
I fail to see why that makes anyone a bully, or a "sleazoid rip-off
artist!"
>Please publish the address of your Board of Directors.
See thread on rec.eq titled "Cheryll's Board".
r...@warwick.net
> From: j...@aracnet.com (Joyce Reynolds-Ward)
> And this is the person who complains about Sheila? C'mon, Kris. I
>can understand anger about being ripped off artistically--having had
>it happen to me. But apologies for false accusations *are* due. And
>considering the week *I've* had...I could justify outflaming Sheila, but
>I'm not gonna.
Aw, why not?
Outflame WW? You and what branch of the military?
>
> jrw
Check your postings cause I'm pretty sure Kris
made her apology. How bout cuttin' Kris a little
slack, huh? Not too much...just a little. ;-)
Ruth CM
Jeanne M. Hinds
In article <NEWTNews.8416306...@WARWICK.NET.WARWICK.NET>
r...@warwick.net writes:
>
> Check your postings cause I'm pretty sure Kris
> made her apology. How bout cuttin' Kris a little
> slack, huh? Not too much...just a little. ;-)
Yeah, but Kris 's apology was pathetic and she has already posted
snotty comments to Cheryll *after* that apology was posted. Check out
the time and date of the "Cheryll's Board" thread.
Btw, Kris, does your employer, the University of Washington, know that
you are engaging in such a flame war that could draw attention to Uof
WA? Accusations of copyright infringement, libel lawsuits, etc. are
not exactly what your employer had in mind when you were given Net
access as a privilege. Having already dealt with a harrassing UofWA
employee, I know that UofWA is not happy when their employees supercede
the privilege they have been given and they take appropriate action
with their employees. If Cheryll were smart, instead of threatening to
sue you, the more effective measure would have been to simply call your
boss and tell him of the false accusations you have publically
disseminating.
kcar...@u.washington.edu
In article <50ejo8$6...@castle.nando.net> jmh...@nando.net (Jeanne M. Hinds)
writes:
> with their employees. If Cheryll were smart, instead of threatening to
> sue you, the more effective measure would have been to simply call your
> boss and tell him of the false accusations you have publically
> disseminating.
The accusations I made were against hunt-jump.com. My boss is a "her." I
cowrote our dept. policy about computer use. And if Cheryll were smart she
would have handled the matter differently from the start.
Kris Carroll
Christy Gammage
In article <5077bl$o...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
says...
>
>In <322714...@vnet.ibm.com> Barbara Elliott <b...@vnet.ibm.com>
writes:
>
>>public. Cheryll's name is in her email address. It's not hard to
>>read.
>
>Without getting into the rest of the question here--it's generally
>advisable to put your name in the actual post as well if you want
>identity to be clear.
Your comments are true.
However, Cheryll's name is at the bottom of the post, signature like
(as quoted by Kris, even).
Cheryll Frank's site has done nothing wrong. From the posts I see
on my site, I would agree that Kris owes Cheryll Frank and the
http:\\www.showjump.com\ site an apology.
On the other hand, the http:\\www.hunt-jump.com\ site is in the
wrong and should offer both apology and possible remuneration
to Kris for theft of her graphics.
Christy & Trouble
ctga...@ingr.com
Jeanne M. Hinds
In article <50f249$5...@nntp4.u.washington.edu>
kcar...@u.washington.edu writes:
> In article <50ejo8$6...@castle.nando.net> jmh...@nando.net (Jeanne M. Hinds)
> writes:
>
> > with their employees. If Cheryll were smart, instead of threatening to
> > sue you, the more effective measure would have been to simply call your
> > boss and tell him of the false accusations you have publically
> > disseminating.
>
> The accusations I made were against hunt-jump.com.
No, your accusations were made against showjump.com. DejaNews archived
your blunder quite well.
My boss is a "her." I
> cowrote our dept. policy about computer use.
Sorry, your department policy is superceded by the University of
Washington Acceptable Use Policy which is located at
http://www.washington.edu/tech_home/html/guidelines.html. Examples
follow:
"You must use C&C systems and networks in a way that demonstrates a
respect for individuals' rights to privacy & freedom from intimidation,
harrassment or interruption."
"Use of C&C computing and network resources for the sharing of
information must be in support of your research, class or work-related
activities."
"Accounts are granted for you to use for your work or study at the
University."
Please explain to us Kris, how falsely accusing an organization of
copyright infringemnt and theft from a horse web apge and then not
apologizing for the faux pas in a gracious manner is "work-related"? I
think Cheryll ought to call your supervisor and see just how how much
tacit approval your boss really gave you. When push comes to shove, I
sincerely doubt your boss would support your actions given that they
were not in accordance with UofWA's AUP.
And if Cheryll were smart she
> would have handled the matter differently from the start.
And if you were smart, you would have gotten your facts straight before
accusing an innocent organization and being snotty when your error was
exposed. You "swatted the bear on the nose" and no amount of screaming
about the reaction you got changes the fact that you got what you
deserved.
Mary McHugh
In article <50c8ts$9...@bashir.ici.net>, l...@ici.net (Linda B. Merims) writes:
|> Well, showjump.com just went on my list of NEVER visit web sites.
|>
|> Cheryl, what the Board and its lawyers will likely do is
|> tell you to grow up. It is my personal opinion that your
|> behavior on this matter has done much more to malign the
|> reputation of the National Grand Prix League than anything
|> Kris said. Remember, you're they're representative here
|> on rec.equestrian and I think who they've got representing
|> them is a petty bully.
|>
|> In my 20 years of experience on the Net, the only ones who
|> go around threatening to sue people are the sleazoid rip-off
|> artists.
|>
|> Please publish the address of your Board of Directors. If
|> your version of this story is all they hear about, they
|> are likely to join you in making complete fools of themselves.
|>
|> Linda B. Merims
|> l...@ici.net
|> Massachusetts, USA
Are you getting the same articles as the rest of us? It seems pretty
clear that Kris made an unfortunate mistake and did winge quite a bit
when time came for an apology. I would think that you'd be the first
to agree that when you make accusations such as the ones broadcast by
Kris, you had better be damn sure you have your information correct.
I think you've made the argument for accuracy yourself more than once
in the 6 years I've been on the net.
If you thought Cheryl's behaviour was unprofessional, what praytell did
you think of Kris's?
Mary McHugh
Kris Anderson
In article <50ejo8$6...@castle.nando.net> Jeanne M. Hinds,
jmh...@nando.net writes:
>Btw, Kris, does your employer, the University of Washington, know that
>you are engaging in such a flame war that could draw attention to Uof
>WA? Accusations of copyright infringement, libel lawsuits, etc. are
>not exactly what your employer had in mind when you were given Net
>access as a privilege. Having already dealt with a harrassing UofWA
>employee, I know that UofWA is not happy when their employees supercede
>the privilege they have been given and they take appropriate action
>with their employees. If Cheryll were smart, instead of threatening to
>sue you, the more effective measure would have been to simply call your
>boss and tell him of the false accusations you have publically
>disseminating.
Except that UW, like most educational institutions, is likely just as
committed to the concept of freedom of expression as is my employer. The
college doesn't tell us what we can say or do when we're on our paid
vacations (another fringe benefit), and neither have they shown any
interest in wanting to censor what we say when we're on the internet.
Kris, just because the college gives us net access doesn't mean that
they're going to take responsibility for our screw-ups, Anderson
Her Royal WordNazi Highness
In article <NEWTNews.8416306...@WARWICK.NET.WARWICK.NET>,
r...@warwick.net wrote:
>
>> From: j...@aracnet.com (Joyce Reynolds-Ward)
>> And this is the person who complains about Sheila? C'mon, Kris. I
>>can understand anger about being ripped off artistically--having had
>>it happen to me. But apologies for false accusations *are* due. And
>>considering the week *I've* had...I could justify outflaming Sheila, but
>>I'm not gonna.
>
>Aw, why not?
>
>Outflame WW? You and what branch of the military?
Believe me, when I wrote that, I'd just come off one hell of a week, between
getting the kid ready for school and having a heart attack scare with the
hubby. As in...speeding to the hospital, overnight stay, 24 hours of frantic
concern before all the tests were in.
If Kris can top *that*....shrug. I'm in a much better mood now, especially
after being accused of being a Word Nazi on or.politics. That's why the
(temporary) sig change, a la Sheila.
>>
>> jrw
>
>Check your postings cause I'm pretty sure Kris
>made her apology. How bout cuttin' Kris a little
>slack, huh? Not too much...just a little. ;-)
Well, at the time I posted, Kris hadn't posted her apology.
She has now.
jrw
Zebraloha
The death of Jus de Pmmes is a trajifc loss to his country, owner,
friends, mare owners and his breed registry--the Belgian Warmblood
Association. He was a great horse and we should all remember how lucky we
are to share our lives with such wonderful creatures. Treat them well!
Trina Bellak
Don
In article <50kl4o$n...@watnews2.watson.ibm.com>, mch...@watson.ibm.com
(Mary McHugh) wrote:
Kris's mistake wasn't just unfortunate, it was inexcusable. The apology
was even more so.
While I hate to get even moderately serious in a humor NG such as this
(r.e may even be better than the a.f.s-w NG for pure entertainment value -
now THAT would be a real toss up), in fact, Kris has been off the "money"
quite a few times over the years. Just because she posts a lot doesn't
make her infallible or right. It may make her more popular, but being
popular doesn't make her right either.
I have noticed (for one) her friendly bias toward T. Stovall (hey Tom,
remember me from Fidonet? - STILL trying to convince people that your an
avid "environmentalist"? - STILL hunting down and killing those furry
little living things so you can "save them"?), Kris, Tom is NOT your
friend (if you think he is, maybe you can put a bunch of dead things on
your page for Jr. Riders and explain to the kiddies how killing living
things helps the environment).
Kris, not EVERYBODY on the net is trying to rip you off.
Kris, I live in WA State, MY tax dollars are paying for YOUR vendettas.
Kris, you were WRONG, so be a big girl about it and apologize (in real time).
Kris, you used to be respected, now your attitude overshadows that respect.
Kris, failing all the above, give up your comped account and get a life!
Don
p s, Kris, NOW is probably a good time to shut down your round the clock
exclusive "LoOk4mYGiFs"(c) bot too!
OK, let the flames begin!
"The price of free speech on wreck.equestrian is eternal flames."
(The above quote is NOT mine sorry to say. I read it in a review of the
r.e NG this morning - I am NOT ripping it off - it does NOT belong to
Kris!)