JC Dill
Sue Leopold
and maybe pick up some work on the side.
I wrote her back - nothing concrete and my friend with the stallions and
babies has money issues. I did talk to her. Nina and I were willing to
show folks at Jeff's place her work (but frankly, her visit coincides
almost perfectly with indoors so very tough there to coordinate
schedules.
I have received *no* communication back. None at all. I guess, if you
can't provide income it's a no go.
<shrug>
I would have appreciated an email back. Nina and I would have gladly
paid to have her take pix of Da Nose. But nothing. We "would" have
recommended her to our friends at the barn, who would have liked a
portrait photo. But *nothing* from her. Could have had a nice commission
and an enjoyable day taking photos of some absolutely beautiful horses.
But nothing....
It was grievously disappoiting. I thought more of JC before this. Guess
I was wrong.
It's fine. But oh so disappointing. I thought a lot of JC before this, I
was wrong. I can live with that, my life is full of people who failed
to "deliver the goods."
Thank the gawds, in Cruiser, Jeff, Jerry and Nina I don't have to
worry about *that* anymore. They do it. Every day.
Sue and Da Nose
svle...@earthlink.net
Ruth Baltopoulos
JC is supposed to be staying here later in the week. I have had chunks
of time without a response during our communications because she is
having trouble with her email server whilst on the road (or sumthin).
She asked me to use a different email address, which I'll gladly provide
if you're interested, Sue.
--
Ruth BS
Tara
public tantrums every time something doesn't go the way you think it should
is tiresome. IMO if you have an issue with JC then you take it up with JC or
at least wait until she is able to respond. Lambasting her on here because
you're disappointed is out of line.
Tara
Jill
> A few weeks ago JC Dill wrote me about meeting up to photograph Da
> Nose and maybe pick up some work on the side.
Inappropriate here Sue, and seeing your equally inappropriate response to a
message on FB as well today, suggests other things at the root of this rant.
Why did you not email or phone Eileen who you know she would be staying
with?
Email is rarely a reliable connection, especially on the road.
Jill
Sue Leopold
I responded to an email JC sent to me. Thought it was valid and I
replied long before she went "on the road. I told her my friend had
no money to spend on portraits of her stallion (spending money on
feed and hay means more. Once I did that, no further communciation.
I have no phone number for Eileen and her computer is dead.
JC has both my cell and my email. On her head now, but really
I am done doing business withh her. Da Nose ad Choc were
great subjects for sure. Cruiser is dead for her..
Sue
Sue Leopold
> Top posting cus I'm rushing like a fool :)
Thanks Ruth!
Hunter Hampton
Leopold) wrote:
>I responded to an email JC sent to me. Thought it was valid and I
>replied long before she went "on the road. I told her my friend had
>no money to spend on portraits of her stallion (spending money on
>feed and hay means more. Once I did that, no further communciation.
Sue,
Did you expect a professional photographer to get all excited about
someone who wants her to take pictures for free?
>
>JC has both my cell and my email. On her head now, but really
>I am done doing business withh her. Da Nose ad Choc were
>great subjects for sure. Cruiser is dead for her..>
This is none of our business, its between you and JC.
Hunter
Sue Leopold
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:23:41 -0400, svle...@earthlink.net (Sue
> Leopold) wrote:
>
> >I responded to an email JC sent to me. Thought it was valid and I
> >replied long before she went "on the road. I told her my friend had
> >no money to spend on portraits of her stallion (spending money on
> >feed and hay means more. Once I did that, no further communciation.
>
> Sue,
>
> Did you expect a professional photographer to get all excited about
> someone who wants her to take pictures for free?
Huh? Where did I say for free? I paid for the portrait she took of
Choc and it was a hassle for sure (but not her fault) Paid for the
photo sessions in 2008 and 2009 too (I would have ordered
a portrait of Da Nose last year but it was a really rainy/snowy
day and somehow a portrait of Cruiser against the backdrop
of an indoor arena didn't move me emotionally)
Nina and I wanted to give Dan a portrait of Sprite for all he's
done for Cruiser. We wanted to surprise him with it - Sprite
is not easy so we would have needed Scott's help in getting it
w/o Dan's knowledge. He's an amateur rider - the only thing
we *can* give him is a gift of appreciation. That portrait would
have meant a *lot* to him, he bred the mare and rode her sire.
Maybe you don't understand that.
I'm disappointed. That's all. Guess I'll order a standard jumping
shot from ESI.
And, btw, most of the prof photographers at H/J shows give you
distribution rights once you purchase the photograph as long as
you give a credit on the image.
Sue
JC Dill
> A few weeks ago JC Dill wrote me about meeting up to photograph Da Nose
> and maybe pick up some work on the side.
Sue, here's the email history as I see it from gmail:
1) I sent out email to everyone I hoped to visit on 9/29. You
replied on 10/4, I replied back to you on 10/5. I never heard back
from you regarding the 10/5 reply, and I sent you another email on
10/19 (which included my cell phone number), which I haven't received
a reply to either. I don't have your phone number (I'm using a new
phone and it doesn't have your phone number in the address book). I
checked gmail's spam folder, and there isn't any email from you in the
spam folder. I don't know what's up with emails, but IMHO this isn't
the right way to deal with the issue.
FYI, my email software (Thunderbird) crashed, and so I haven't read
rec.eq (which I read thru my email software) in a week since I hate
using Google Groups. I'm also not reading my "lists" email (the email
address I use to post to rec.eq) very often since the software crashed
as it's a PITA to switch back and forth when viewing online because
switching switches 2 other google services I have open in other tabs
(reader, calendar) and I have to re-login to keep using those
services. If you want to email me, please remember to remove
the .lists to send email to my primary email account, which I'm
reading thru gmail's website.
I'm currently at Ruth's house in VT, and I'm heading down to the
Boston area for the next few days. I will be back at Eileen's this
weekend. I set aside Sunday afternoon and all of Monday (until I have
to catch my plane at ABE in the late afternoon) for getting together
with you, visiting, taking photos, etc. I will be driving 9+ on
Saturday/Sunday so that I can be back in PA on Sunday by early
afternoon, so that I have ample time to visit with you and see
Cruiser, etc. I can also give you all-day on Sunday, but it would
mean that I miss visiting with Dawn. (Dawn is in Maine right now, so
I can't visit with now, her while I'm in VT. I have to come back up
this way from Boston on Saturday afternoon to visit with her, then
head down to PA starting early Sunday morning.)
Please reply via email to my primary email account (without .lists) so
that we can work out the details! I'm really looking forward to
seeing Da Nose again and visiting with you and Nina.
jc
Sue Leopold
I'm in contact with JC. She lost my phone number is a phone swap. Things
happen.
Meanwhile, I've just received news that a really fine man has passed
on. It hurts, Gary was way too young to die. It is as it is.
Now please just let me alone.
Sue
hpjeannie
wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 18:23:41 -0400, svleop...@earthlink.net (Sue
And might I delurk to add that it sounds like Sue's pharmacist might
need to be involved as well.
Jeannie
just sayin'
Ruth Baltopoulos
--
Ruth BS
Sue Leopold
It would be dead for two days already. Once I got in touch
with JC (and yep, a "ping JC" would have been much more
appropriate. totally agree) I dropped it. Instead I get
recommendations for a pharmacist. <rolls eyes>
Sometimes when you really f' up it's better to shut up and
not engage in extensive apologies. And let it die.
Now let me ride off out of here on my broom. (Right time
of the year for that, eh?)
Sue
Jill
> not engage in extensive apologies.
AN apology will suffice, just one. But one is necessary in a community like
this.
Jill
Sue Leopold
I really prefer to stuff it. But an apology is warranted - I am truly
sorry for my intemperate behavior. I actually am not that person
that sometimes comes acroos - that's a protective shell. I shall
try to do better in the future.
Sue
Sue Leopold
I've said I've been in contact with JC and we're figuring out the
time schedule. We can get it to work. It's a little challenging - guys
will be at Penn Nationals through Sunday and we really, really
need Scott's help with Sprite. She is hard (double Alme, but what
what you know about that with your horses? Honestly, almost 30
years ago I paid more for a Tb mare than you paid for Shrimp.
Times three plus) You want bitch, you've got bitch. Contact me
when you have a fourth level or 1.25 meter horse. Ain't happening
any time soon. Not with what you "select." (And I'm not disparaging
OTTBs but ugh, CANTER horses? Really suck for the most part.
Too much ND and Mr. P. Blech. Unsound and downhilll. It is what
it is.)
As for your opinion of me - whatever. Ya might want to look into
estrone for your stifle-challenged "bargain." I'd not have that for
a "dressage prospect." YMMV. But I start with "sound." You might
want to check into that idea.
And there's you daily rant from me. Go look at what we've had. And
then compare. And please, let me know when any of your ilk can
jump a 3'6" course. Heck I'd settle for hunting second flight.
Sue
Sue Leopold
> And this is far from the first time she's done this kind of thing.
>
> More importantly, so far as I know she has *never* apologized for any
> of her childish attacks and inappropriate behavior, and lord knows
> there have been plenty of times when she should have. That's why I'm
> putting this neurotically self-obsessed and childish poster in my
> killfile as of today.
Umm, I *did* post that I've connected with JC and it was a misdirected
email and loss of phone number that led to the snafu. Ye gawds, that
*never* happens.
As far as Tara and Karen - I'm going to get snotty (sorry Ruth, know
you hate this but whatever, when you get jumped on, you get to get
your back up) let me know when you have horse who can get past the
backyard level (and you don't need tons of money to do so, I have
a friend with two lovely Anglo-Traks - one inspected into the PSB
book and the other, well, the inspector said "She should be presented."
Both are super - one is more a hunter and the other was evaluated by
a GP trainer as a "very good prospect." They grew up in her backyard,
mare was from Rerun (but super bloodlines, but oh, I am snotty for
mentioning pedigree because everyone with a mutt takes offense to
that)
Sue Leopold
let it go (sorry Ruth, I know you hate this kind of stuff)
I am verbally and physically abused. It is what it is and I will
never, ever reveal who does this to me. I am dreading seeing JC
but at least it is autumn and I can cover the
wounds with long sleeves., I am so ashamed of them....
But they are hidden. That's a good thing.
I immerse myseff in bloodlines because there in my
own head I am for the moment safe. Otherwise, not
so much but I am pretty good I think at hiding.
When I lash out here it is because I *am* angry, but
at least I will not be hurt here. Not physically anyway.
I am pretty resigned. My life sucks. But tomorrow, I
will see the sun. And Sunday, there wlll be The Nose.
That *has* to be enough. I hope....
Ifr you hate me, that's fine. No one hate's me more than
me
Sue
Tara
Wow. I don't care what your mental health issues are or if you're abused
as you say in another post. None of that gives you the right to abuse
others nor will you stir sympathy or empathy for yourself when you
choose to be so offensive. You've become a nasty, hateful woman.
Tara
--
Tara
Ruth Baltopoulos
> Wow. I don't care what your mental health issues are or if you're abused
> as you say in another post. None of that gives you the right to abuse
> others nor will you stir sympathy or empathy for yourself when you
> choose to be so offensive. You've become a nasty, hateful woman.
Wow. Mental health or abuse issues are a reality, and the common cause
of certain irrational behaviors. While perhaps inexcusable, they are
nonetheless understandable.
Or we can continue with the potshots indefinitely. Whatever works.
--
Ruth BS
Sue Leopold
Thank you Ruth (ever the voice of reason.)
I think I will go and study the influene of Umidwar in Tb sport, 'Tis
a good place to be. Peace...
Sue
Laurel Reddick
>Wow. I don't care what your mental health issues are or if you're abused
>as you say in another post. None of that gives you the right to abuse
>others nor will you stir sympathy or empathy for yourself when you
>choose to be so offensive. You've become a nasty, hateful woman.
>
>Tara
I have sympathy and empathy for Sue and her situation, and did not see
what she wrote about JC as abuse. It was flying off the handle in an
indiscrete manner. Abuse is what Sue is living through. I'm sorry
Sue that this is in your life, and I hope some day you are able to
walk away from it. I think this is an example of us not having walked
in someone else's shoes, and we should always look behind the words
when someone erupts before we erupt in kind. Sending you good
thoughts and understanding Sue. Don't feel shame for what is
happening to you please.
Laurel
redbranch
You know, I could care less about snippy remarks and catfights. And
I'm truly sorry you're suffering any kind of abuse and are unable to
walk away from it...that saddens me.
But....
It really concerns me when you put down someone else's horses because
they aren't the same caliber as you prefer or aren't competing at the
same level as yours.
How would it feel to you if someone higher up the food chain came on
here and started running down *your* horse, saying "Big deal....he's
one of a zillion at 1.25 meters. Call me when he's won a Grand Prix
or been horse of the year or gone to the World Cup or won an Olympic
medal or at least been selected for the team" and pretty much told you
if you weren't there, you were small potatoes and not worthy? Bet
your hackles would be up, too.
If you want to play at catfights, have at it....but leave slamming
other people's horses out of it. That's beneath someone who claims to
love horses.
Hope you're feeling better soon.
Sharon Potter
Red Branch
Hunter Hampton
Leopold) wrote:
>
>As far as Tara and Karen - I'm going to get snotty (sorry Ruth, know
>you hate this but whatever, when you get jumped on, you get to get
>your back up) let me know when you have horse who can get past the
>backyard level
Jesus Sue... Ruth jumps on the people who piss her off... she doesn't
denigrate their horses.
Hunter
Jill
thanks Sue, and that was all that was needed.
I read with sadness what came next from your keyboard to here, it was
uncalled for.
I am truly sorry that you are hurting, but the nice people here are not the
ones to take it out on.
Jill
Ruth Baltopoulos
(Sue Leopold) wrote:
>> As far as Tara and Karen - I'm going to get snotty (sorry Ruth, know
>> you hate this but whatever, when you get jumped on, you get to get
>> your back up) let me know when you have horse who can get past the
>> backyard level
> Jesus Sue... Ruth jumps on the people who piss her off... she doesn't
> denigrate their horses.
Yes I do, and no I don't. However, a good definition for foolishness
might be looking for rational behavior from someone who is in an
irrational frame of mind.
Since JC and I are getting ready to go and visit my farm, and then head
over and follow a foxhunt, I'll make this brief. I don't take mental
health issues lightly and see no good use in continuing to take Sue to
task over her recent behavior.
There was an apology, an explanation and discussion. Clearly her words
came from a bad place. It isn't OK. But do you really want to continue
battering at this?
Gonna go pet my horse cus I don't have time to ride her. Even just that
makes my world a much better place :)
--
Ruth BS
Sue Leopold
> You know, I could care less about snippy remarks and catfights. And
> I'm truly sorry you're suffering any kind of abuse and are unable to
> walk away from it...that saddens me.
>
> But....
>
> It really concerns me when you put down someone else's horses because
> they aren't the same caliber as you prefer or aren't competing at the
> same level as yours.
>
> How would it feel to you if someone higher up the food chain came on
> here and started running down *your* horse, saying "Big deal....he's
> one of a zillion at 1.25 meters. Call me when he's won a Grand Prix
> or been horse of the year or gone to the World Cup or won an Olympic
> medal or at least been selected for the team" and pretty much told you
> if you weren't there, you were small potatoes and not worthy? Bet
> your hackles would be up, too.
>
> If you want to play at catfights, have at it....but leave slamming
> other people's horses out of it. That's beneath someone who claims to
> love horses.
I didn't start this - Tara and Karen jumped on me and yep, I flew off
the handle.
Cruiser is small potatoes right now. He's done the 1.30 meters, but
we backed him off so he could learn to do what he should have
learned as a five year old - jump clean and be able to go for time.
He's come along quite well, I'm pleased and I'd love him if he'd not
be able to jump more than a crossrail (but he was too many euros
to just do that!) He's ready to move up - and hate to tell you Sharon,
he's been evaluated as a legitimate GP prospect. I don't think he's
HOTY/WEG quality - he doesn't have the fire for that - but to do the
high A/O and Juniors and National Level Grand Prix - that he's capable
of - easily.
But what the hell do I know?
Sure
Sue Leopold
Thank you Laurel. So very kind of you to write this.
Sue, the nasty, hateful woman
Eileen
some sort of professional support to help you cope and learn what you
need to learn to be able to end your victim status.
As for the rest of this thread <sticks fingers in ears>
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest (PA)
http://themaresnest.us/
Hunter Hampton
<rud...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Since JC and I are getting ready to go and visit my farm, and then head
>over and follow a foxhunt, I'll make this brief. I don't take mental
>health issues lightly and see no good use in continuing to take Sue to
>task over her recent behavior.>
I was out of it until she chose to say how her horse is a big show
horse and our "mutts" are crap.
>
>There was an apology, an explanation and discussion. Clearly her words
>came from a bad place. >
I read them after I posted.
>It isn't OK. But do you really want to continue battering at this?
Every time it's finished someone posts the last word. You did, and I
just did.
Hunter
Dr Corinne B Leek
wrote:
>I hope you are able to walk away some day, and in the meantime get
>some sort of professional support to help you cope and learn what you
>need to learn to be able to end your victim status.
Agreed.
>As for the rest of this thread <sticks fingers in ears>
>LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I going to Ditto Ei.
Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew, looking silly with fingers and paws in
ears...
--
*** Conserve Energy: Laughter is easier than Anger!
*** cl...@eastlink.ca
betsey
>
> Since JC and I are getting ready to go and visit my farm, and then head
> over and follow a foxhunt, I'll make this brief. I don't take mental
> health issues lightly and see no good use in continuing to take Sue to
> task over her recent behavior.
>
>
Enjoy the foxhunt you two! I really love looking at the pics Ruth
posts on facebook of the hunts....could you get JC to post a few
too????
Betsey