I've been checking consignments and I seem to eat/sleep/breathe Ebay. I
can't afford a new saddle and Amie loves her Wintec Pro but its looking a
little ragged and I'd really love to get her a nice dressage saddle for xmas
since there are plans for her to enter USDF tests in 2010.
Tara
http://www.trumbullmtn.com/Saddle_%20pages/used_dressage/USED_dressage.htm
--Dawn JL
------------------------------------------------------
Have I told you how much I love you lately? :) First the awesome horses and
now a great link! You never did answer me about whether I could have the
little black dog too btw lol.
Tara
Aww, that's such a nice thing to say :-)
Trumbull Mtn. is great. They have fantastic customer service.
> You never did answer me about whether I could have the
> little black dog too btw lol.
:-0 Well, the little black dog is Kate's new foxhound cross puppy so
she is not mine to give. She is a cutie-pie.
--Dawn
http://www.trumbullmtn.com/Saddle_%20pages/used_dressage/USED_dressage.htm
--Dawn JL
Thank you for the web site for the saddles, my daughter has her own stable
and her saddles are
looking a little poor. I found one on there that she could use, I have a
e-mail to them so I hope they still have it. And since I live in Ct. I
could go up and look at it if i have time. I too am looking for a new
dressage saddle but in that I really need my instuctor to see them, she has
picked out all my saddles on her own and they have all fit nicely so I may
leave that up to her.,
Diane
>http://nh.craigslist.org/grd/1485167171.html
"I have a 17.5 M Tree Keifer Wein DL Professional Dressage Saddle for
sale. This is a really nice saddle, just doesn't fit my horse anymore.
Wool Flocked. Well taken care off, no scratches, just normal wear from
stirrups. New billets just put on the off side. Please email if you
have any questions, thanks!"
I wonder why the off-side billets needing changing, wouldn't the near
side go first?
Unless the near side was already changed...
Hunter <-thinking out loud
>
> Thank you for the web site for the saddles, my daughter has her own stable
> and her saddles are
> looking a little poor. I found one on there that she could use, I have a
> e-mail to them so I hope they still have it. And since I live in Ct. I
> could go up and look at it if i have time. I too am looking for a new
> dressage saddle but in that I really need my instuctor to see them, she has
> picked out all my saddles on her own and they have all fit nicely so I may
> leave that up to her.,
Trumbull Mtn are great about long distance fitting (there are
instructions on the website for back and wither tracings and photos),
and they have a very good trial policy. You can actually ride in the
saddle for a week --even brand new ones-- before making a decision.
--Dawn JL
Unless the off-side was nearest the chewing puppy ...
--
Mary H. and the restored Ames National Zoo:
The Right Reverand Sir Edgar "Lucky" Pan-Waffles (retired);
U-CD ANZ Babylon Ranger, CD, RA; ANZ Pas de Duke; and rotund Rhia
Thanks Nancy but that seat is too big. I think a 17" leather saddle would be
very roomy for Amie right now with her little "almost a size 0" tush. Since
she's only 14 and will grow at least a little more (not much given her
genes) I'm ok going with roomy. I'd put her actual seat size at a 16-16.5
depending on seat depth & whether its a cutback pommel.
Tara
Tara
Did you try Ebay? I've purchased a dozen saddles on ebay. If you use a
reputable seller you can get real bargains. I purchased a County
cross-country saddle on ebay for $1,500 that was worth $3,500 new and it
came with less than a dozen rides on it -- still looked brand new. I sold
it at my local tack shop 3 plus years later for $1,200. I bought my next
County (Connection, dressage) from ebay for $2,500 -- it too was new, 6 mos
old, the seller was changing disciplines, and I saved over a thousand from
buying a new saddle. Most of the other saddles I bought I either gave away
(sorry, I have no dressages available!) or sold through my tack shop for
more than I paid for them. Now is a good time for bargains.
Duh, sorry. I just read your original post -- obviously you are checking
ebay already.
I paid $480 for a Duett Allegro for Louise just over a month ago. It
fit her like it was custom made, for about two weeks. She's already
slimmed too much to wear it, and she's almost back down to the
Passport. No way I'm buying her anything pricey until she kinda sorts
stabilizes.
I expect the Allegro will hold its value pretty well - shouldn't lose
much.
Nancy
Even easier:
http://craiglook.com/all.html?q=dressage+saddle
jc
Holy sh*t if I'd have known about the above site before I..well..don't want
to think about the damage I could have done to my bank account. I'll be
sending you flowers.
Tara
Have fun! :-)
jc
Or mices or some such were the guilty party, (or slamming it in a trunk lid,
or...) and wear and tear weren't responsible...
Thinking out loud about some things I've seen done to otherwise nice saddles
over time... ;>)
Cricket
LOL! GMTA!
Cricket
Since this is a pretty horsie area, our CL has dressage stuff. But the
tack stores sell consignments, and we have a few local bulletin boards
where people sell their tack.
I have found some really great deals on ebay the last couple of years.
I look there first.
What is your price range?
>Hunter Hampton <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> I wonder why the off-side billets needing changing, wouldn't the near
>> side go first?
>
>Unless the off-side was nearest the chewing puppy ...
Doh, I forgot about the dreaded chewing puppy.
Hunter
Known a few dreaded chewing ponies, too...why on earth a horse would want to
chew a saddle (I'd say salt, but Cheyenne rolls seem to be a prized edible,
and they're unlikely to be very salty) is a mystery to me.
Cricket
>
>Known a few dreaded chewing ponies, too...why on earth a horse would want to
>chew a saddle (I'd say salt, but Cheyenne rolls seem to be a prized edible,
>and they're unlikely to be very salty) is a mystery to me.
Why a saddle is in chewing proximity is a mystery to me.
Hunter
There's that - but most horses don't chew on them, and I know people who'll
set one on a fence rail, or empty stall wall (but in reach of others), and
forget it, or leave it there to air a bit. And look at me like I'm nuts
when I mention that leaving it in chewing range is a bad idea.
Oh, well - not my saddle... ;>)
Cricket
Since this is a pretty horsie area, our CL has dressage stuff. But the
tack stores sell consignments, and we have a few local bulletin boards
where people sell their tack.
I have found some really great deals on ebay the last couple of years.
I look there first.
What is your price range?
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Hi Abby. My price range is up to $600 which will be a stretch. I'm hoping to
spend no more than $500 since I'll probably have to purchase new
leathers/webbers.
I am currently bidding on a 16" Prestige 2000 that looks pristine and have
an Albion SLK I'm watching as a potential Plan B. Both may go well over my
budget though.
Tara
>
>Hi Abby. My price range is up to $600 which will be a stretch. I'm hoping to
>spend no more than $500 since I'll probably have to purchase new
>leathers/webbers.
Webbers?
Hunter
>
>> Webbers?
>
>Synthetic leathers.
>
>Nancy
Oh, thanks Nancy.
Hunter
Bates & Wintec make them (some other companies but I don't know what they
call them). Instead of a leather w/buckle these are a long strip with little
verticle slots down the backside of the leather and a metal T on the end so
you adjust the length from the bottom and have no buckle or excess leather
strap to keep away. Having used them myself I will *never* go back to
traditional leathers.
http://www.adamshorsesupply.com/browse.cfm/4,924.html
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-06852&bhcd2=1259507637
Tara
Wintec's are synthetic. Bates Webbers are leather.
Tara
Totally non-stretch. For a while I used bottom-adjust leathers and for
another while I used an adapter to make standard leathers bottom-adjust.
That was all a reaction to using Webbers for ages and ages and really not
liking the bulk of the buckle and 3 thicknesses of strap under my thigh.
Why did I change, you ask? I was concerned that the webbers would excessive
abrade my leather dressage saddle. Then I found the bottom adjust to be too
much PIA. Then keeping real leather leathers stretched evenly was a
different PIA. I tried some with a nylon center sandwiched between two
pieces of leather and found them way too thick. So I'm now using a
synthetic, traditional style leather. It's a compromise between too thick
and non-stretch with non-stretch winning. These have rounded edges so less
potential to abrade the flaps than the square-edged Webbers.
I only recently started sticking the free end into the keeper because the
angle in the (thickish) strap made a bulge that annoyed me. Every time my
instructor handled the stirrups (to adjust the length or to run them up
after a lesson as we talked) he'd stick the free end in the keeper. I think
it must have bugged him :-)
I am beating that bulge into submission and rarely notice it anymore. But if
Hoover is ridden by someone else, it takes a ride or two to re-beat it.
Emily
> Bates & Wintec make them (some other companies but I don't know what they
> call them). Instead of a leather w/buckle these are a long strip with little
> verticle slots down the backside of the leather and a metal T on the end so
> you adjust the length from the bottom and have no buckle or excess leather
> strap to keep away. Having used them myself I will *never* go back to
> traditional leathers.
I find them to be incredibly frustrating. I dislike the feel, dislike
that they don't "run up" as easily as traditional leathers, staying
neatly out of the way when I don't want them. And I dislike adjusting
the length while mounted - can't easily do it with my foot in the
stirrup sitting in a natural position like I can with traditional
leathers.
I have some stuffed in a box around here somewhere. Shall I send them
along with the rooster? :)
Nancy
> I only recently started sticking the free end into the keeper because the
> angle in the (thickish) strap made a bulge that annoyed me. Every time my
> instructor handled the stirrups (to adjust the length or to run them up
> after a lesson as we talked) he'd stick the free end in the keeper. I think
> it must have bugged him :-)
I never use the keeper. Maybe if I actually show next year, *maybe*.
I buy the thinnest, softest leathers known to man, and I shove the
excess just in front of my thigh. Always have. :)
Nancy
> Wintec's are synthetic. Bates Webbers are leather.
Did not know that. My first reaction to reading this was, "Why in the
name of all that is holy would they bother to make those abominations
out of leather? I hardly ever even see the synthetic ones now."
It's good to know that there are people who find them useful, and even
preferable. I figured they were an early, cheap Wintec thing,
ultimately mostly replaced with the synthetic leathers (which are now
available much thinner and softer, but not as thin and soft as I'd
like).
Nancy
I find them to be incredibly frustrating. I dislike the feel, dislike
that they don't "run up" as easily as traditional leathers, staying
neatly out of the way when I don't want them. And I dislike adjusting
the length while mounted - can't easily do it with my foot in the
stirrup sitting in a natural position like I can with traditional
leathers.
I have some stuffed in a box around here somewhere. Shall I send them
along with the rooster? :)
Nancy
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Absolutely! By "run up" do you mean when your putting your saddle up after
use? I don't have a problem easily adjusting mine to the keeper but then I
am much more prone to just tossing the stirrups over the seat when I put the
saddle away.
Tara
See, I hang our webbers *under* the outside panel. They haven't messed with
the billets or caused damage at all underneath and it keeps the outer panel
looking new. I just can't do buckles. I am so persnickety that I don't do
normal stirrups on leathers or webbers either because I can't stand that
little twist at the bottom when you put your foot in. I use twist eye
stirrups so that the irons hang in the direction my foot goes in while the
webber stays flat as it should be. I'm pretty much the anti diva in all
things but I will not bend on the buckle issue or turned leather @ iron
thing :)
Tara
As for the twist thing at the bottom, I recently switched to MDC Ultimate
stirrups:
http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-07014&ids=312716382
after using Foot Free stirrups:
http://equestrian.doversaddlery.com/search?dmi_offer_code=SITE&w=foot+free&idc=[[SLI_IDC]]&ids=312716382
for years.
Getting dragged will encourage you to look at alternatives :-)
Emily
Were you dragged using the Foot Free stirrups?
Hunter <- uses them herself
Yah. Very slowly and not very far but still ... And not because the Foot
Free's were too small either.
Emily
Tara
>I use these:
>http://www.doversaddlery.com/product.asp?pn=X1-0708&tid=froogle&CATALOG_CODE=1X814&EID=X1814001&zmam=1460880&zmas=1&zmac=49&zmap=X1-0708
>
>Tara
No safety factor there at all...
Hunter
Ouch!
I actually went to the tack shop to buy the MDCs a year or so ago, and they
didn't have them in stock, so I took a chance on these which were the same
price range:
http://www.doversaddlery.com/herm-sprenger-4-f-bow-balance-stirrup-irons/p/X1-0761/cn/97/>
I love them. I get freedom from knee pain when I ride. At first they felt
"too loose" because I wasn't used to it and then realized I had been bracing
so they helped me not do that, either. I really am glad I got them and
would recommend them for people with knee issues.
Same general idea without the select-a-twist feature. I haven't had an
opportunity to, ah, test the foot release features of the MDCs. Nor do I
want to overmuch. I do set them perpendicular to the leathers when I ride.
Emily
Just talked to the people at the tack store and they are mailing the saddle
that I picked out today and my daughter should receive it tomarrow. She has
7 days to try it and if it doesn't work she mails it back. I was surprised
it was simple and they do have quite a variety.
Diane
"Tara" <irn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7nba9nF...@mid.individual.net...
>I don't suppose anyone here has a high quality, show-worthy, dressage
>saddle in a 16.5"-17" seat size, that they'd like to sell??? Something
>custom or a Prestige, Albion, Bates type? Needs to be medium/regular tree
>with a deep or medium-deep seat.
>
> I've been checking consignments and I seem to eat/sleep/breathe Ebay. I
> can't afford a new saddle and Amie loves her Wintec Pro but its looking a
> little ragged and I'd really love to get her a nice dressage saddle for
> xmas since there are plans for her to enter USDF tests in 2010.
>
> Tara
>I actually went to the tack shop to buy the MDCs a year or so ago, and they
>didn't have them in stock, so I took a chance on these which were the same
>price range:
>
>http://www.doversaddlery.com/herm-sprenger-4-f-bow-balance-stirrup-irons/p/X1-0761/cn/97/>
>
>I love them. I get freedom from knee pain when I ride. At first they felt
>"too loose" because I wasn't used to it and then realized I had been bracing
>so they helped me not do that, either. I really am glad I got them and
>would recommend them for people with knee issues.
<heavy sigh>
For the sake of my knees I looked.
Then I checked on a Canadian tack shop, Picov's, and they were around
$265.
Oy.
And shipping determined by weight and size.
Plus 13% tax on top of the s/h.
Too bad I don't know a real Santa Claus.
Ah well.
Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew, wishing she could ease her knee and help
balance...
--
*** Conserve Energy: Laughter is easier than Anger!
*** cl...@ns.sympatico.ca
> <heavy sigh>
> For the sake of my knees I looked.
> Then I checked on a Canadian tack shop, Picov's, and they were around
> $265.
> Oy.
> And shipping determined by weight and size.
> Plus 13% tax on top of the s/h.
> Too bad I don't know a real Santa Claus.
> Ah well.
>
> Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew, wishing she could ease her knee and help
> balance...
Corrine,
Do you have regular Fillis irons? Sometimes a "comfort pad" on the
footpad can help a cranky knee. Like these:
http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=6038
I've seen these pads and they are squishier than a standard stirrup
pad.
SmartPak may ship to Canada. If so, they have a free shipping code
effective until Dec. 31 - HOLSHIP09 is the promo code. I love SmartPak,
their customer service is super and they have an excellent return
policy.
You could look in to the bendy stirrups too. Just the two ways could
help, they are usually around 50 bucks, you don't necessirly need
Herm Sprengers or MDCs.
Another comfort feature is a wide footbed which will provide more
support.
If Farmhouse Tack ships to Canada - these folks are super, super,
know their stuff and work with the customer. Lots of moderately
priced stirrups - bendies and wide footbeds, also some composite
materials - for some reason people find these very comfortable:
http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet/the-IRONS/Categories
Website is spartan but if you call they will talk and work with you:
I tend to like plain old ordinary Fillis irons, but I am Old Skool
hunter/jumper. LOL
>Dr Corinne B Leek <cl...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
Re: herm Sprengers special whoopy-do-super deluxe stirrups
>> Ah well.
>>
>> Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew, wishing she could ease her knee and help
>> balance...
>Do you have regular Fillis irons?
Yup.
With a nice rubber pad that has some traction. It's white, if that
has any significance.
>Sometimes a "comfort pad" on the
>footpad can help a cranky knee. Like these:
>
>http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=6038
>
>I've seen these pads and they are squishier than a standard stirrup
>pad.
Really?
That much squishier?
How do they really look? The pic looked like trailing pieces (fore &
aft?) on the stirrup but no real indicator why they would be easier on
the knees.
They do look much more affordable and maybe I could find them on a
Canadian site (with Canadian shipping).
>SmartPak may ship to Canada. If so, they have a free shipping code
>effective until Dec. 31 - HOLSHIP09 is the promo code. I love SmartPak,
>their customer service is super and they have an excellent return
>policy.
OK.
>You could look in to the bendy stirrups too. Just the two ways could
>help, they are usually around 50 bucks, you don't necessirly need
>Herm Sprengers or MDCs.
What are "bendy stirrups"?
>Another comfort feature is a wide footbed which will provide more
>support.
I think mine is quite wide as I have plenty of room to move my feet
"left and right" in the stirrups.
I should measure next I'm out to see what size they actually are.
>If Farmhouse Tack ships to Canada - these folks are super, super,
>know their stuff and work with the customer. Lots of moderately
>priced stirrups - bendies and wide footbeds, also some composite
>materials - for some reason people find these very comfortable:
>
>http://www.farmhousetack.com/servlet/the-IRONS/Categories
>
>Website is spartan but if you call they will talk and work with you:
>
> 1-864-457-3557
>
>I tend to like plain old ordinary Fillis irons, but I am Old Skool
>hunter/jumper. LOL
I'm actually the same. <sigh>
I guess I have been irretrievably infected by the SRSofV when they
came through in 64. I was so in awe of them. I've always figured
"if it was good for them then it's good for me". :-/
Then my knees have gotten in the way and if there's an easier way to
go.... Reality sucks, ya know? LOL!
Thanks muchly for for the pointers. When I get a chance, I shall go
check them out. This week is absolutely nuts.
Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew....
> Really?
> That much squishier?
> How do they really look? The pic looked like trailing pieces (fore &
> aft?) on the stirrup but no real indicator why they would be easier on
> the knees.
The trailing pieces tie around the stirrup rather than the pad sliding
into the slot of the stirrup. Theory is you don't get as much edge.
They are somewhat softer than the regular white pads. Some people
swear by them.
> What are "bendy stirrups"?
Bendy stirrups is my jargon for flexible stirrups like the Herm
Sprengers. The two way stirrups are much less expensive than
the HS Four Ways.
>
> >Another comfort feature is a wide footbed which will provide more
> >support.
> I think mine is quite wide as I have plenty of room to move my feet
> "left and right" in the stirrups.
> I should measure next I'm out to see what size they actually are.
Wide in the sense of front to back as opposed to left and right.
So a larger contact surface for your foot.
> I'm actually the same. <sigh>
> I guess I have been irretrievably infected by the SRSofV when they
> came through in 64. I was so in awe of them. I've always figured
> "if it was good for them then it's good for me". :-/
> Then my knees have gotten in the way and if there's an easier way to
> go.... Reality sucks, ya know? LOL!
If its good for your knees, then it's good for you IMO.
>
> Thanks muchly for for the pointers. When I get a chance, I shall go
> check them out. This week is absolutely nuts.
Hoping for a quieter next week for you.
>Sometimes a "comfort pad" on the
>footpad can help a cranky knee. Like these:
>http://www.smartpakequine.com/ProductClass.aspx?productclassid=6038
Smart Pak doesn't ship to Canada.
I don't think Farm House does, either. Valley Vet does, however. But
I may be dismayed by the shipping costs.
I've not been able to find a Canadian tack shop online that carries
them.
I need to measure my stirrups again so I have the info when I call
Valley Vet to inquire about the S&H costs.
I was thinking it might be a good Christmas present to myself.
Although I was a little put off by the final comment on the bottom of
this page:
http://www.supercomfortironpads.com/instructions.html
If it needs vet wrap to not move......
Any comments?
Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew...
If you do order stirrups of this sort, perhaps one of us US folks
could act as a relay for you. I'd do it. Have them shipped to me and
I'll ship 'em to you via the nifty new flat rate package (10.95 to
Canada). COTH maintains a thread for the current free shipping code
from SmartPak.
Dawn JL
=8-))))
Thank you!!!
Rec.eqers rock!
I'd like to hear Sue's take on the possibility of a vet wrap
requirement, though.
If they really do help knees and stuff, I'd like to try them, if it's
not ridiculously priced.
It may be my present to myself, but I'm still on a budget. ;-))
Corinne & Cheapskate, er, "Budget Conscious" Crazy Canuck Crew...
The offer stands if Sue gives a thumbs up and you decide you want to
get them. :-)
--Dawn JL
Corinne, what size stirrup are you? I imagine your feet are tiny. Have you
ever tried the sprenger 4way stirrups?
I'm a size 8 1/2 to 9 shoe (orthotics). Stirrup, I still have to get
to the barn to measure.
Sprengers are waaaaaay out of my budget. Here in Canada they're over
$250. Even in the US they're around $200. Ain't gonna happen.
Whatever I get has to be *definitely* under $100. Preferably under
$50! :-} I ain't rich and my pension won't be indexed for another
year and a half. Fixed income.
So much for the Herm-Sprengers. sigh.
Besides. I've never seen them and it would be a good idea to try them
before forking over those kind of $$.
Corinne & Cheapskate, ah, "Budget Conscious" Crazy Canuck Crew....
Corinne & Cheapsk... *Budget Conscious* Crazy Canuck Crew....
I hear you. I might have an "extra" pair... that's why I asked. But they
are small (4 1/2") and I'd need to know if they would actually help/work for
you (and fit).
>"Dr Corinne B Leek" <cl...@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> So much for the Herm-Sprengers. sigh.
>> Besides. I've never seen them and it would be a good idea to try them
>> before forking over those kind of $$.
>
>I hear you. I might have an "extra" pair... that's why I asked. But they
>are small (4 1/2") and I'd need to know if they would actually help/work for
>you (and fit).
!!!!!!!!!!!!
=8-O
Well. Thank you!
Sue L said they were ideal.
For size: At this point, I'm not likely to be at the barn until the
BO's Christmas Party on Sunday.
I shall have to measure the stirrups and maybe I should measure the
widest part of my boots.....
Hmmmm...
Just a mo'...
OK. My boots are, at their widest, 4". I also checked my winter
riding boots and my sneakers that I wear. All 4" at most.
How does one size stirrups, anyway?
That is a question that should be known before anything else. I have
no idea how much extra room one should have beyond one's boots.
So, Wonderful What'sername, how much do you want? ;-)
My email is unmunged.
Corinne & Cheapsk... um, *Budget Conscious* Crazy Canuck Crew....