Stalled horse peeing in one spot
Hayseed
SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
Help! Suggestions?
Linda Garriott
Bee Creek Stables
Hays...@jumpnet.com
Tivers
>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
>of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>Help! Suggestions?
>
>Linda Garriott
Hmm, you've got to learn to properly clean and bed stalls. Most stalled horses
pee in the same place.
ti
Tom Ivers
President: Equine Racing Systems, Inc.
http://www.equineracing.com
KLOSTERGEN
<<He pees in the
SAME spot EVERYTIME! >>
I *wish* my horses would pee in the same spot
everytime...would make mucking out a whole lot easier!
Bobbie C
Don't know if you can afford rubber stall mats, but it makes all the
difference in keeping the stall floor level, thus no single deep-dark-pit.
All our stall have mats & I haven't had to level them in years.
But, assuming no mats & a big pee puddle -- what works great to fill in wet
holes (or even dry out damp areas, is to fill it (or spread a layer) with
decomposed granite, aka "DG." It tamps down really well with the back of a
hoe -- we have an 18" layer of this in all stalls and in the barnyard. It
provides great drainage, never gets soggy or mucky, yet it packs firm.
Also, your bedding makes a difference -- if you're using straw, put a layer
of shavings under it. If you're already using shavings, put a layer of peat
moss under that. Rice hulls are not an absorbent bedding and they shift a
lot.
And, for residual dampness and ammonia stink, I use this stuff called
"Sweet PDZ" which you sprinkle out like lime (looks like lime too, it's a
sodium-silicate-something), about a coffee-can full does it for a 12x12
stall, plus the pee-hole (all stall horses seem to have one).
I've had a couple real flooders, and despite cleaning three times a day,
their stalls reeked until I started putting this down. Sweet PDZ (that's
the brand name, maybe there's an equivalent) costs more than lime, but you
end up using less, and in the long run it ends up doing a better job for
less money.
That's my $0.02 worth :)
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Hayseed wrote in message <6urpq5$ioe$2...@news.jump.net>...
>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
>of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>Help! Suggestions?
>
>Linda Garriott
>Bee Creek Stables
>Hays...@jumpnet.com
>
>
Bobbie C
Meg Alfoni
Bobbie C wrote:
> Hi Linda,
>
>
>
> And, for residual dampness and ammonia stink, I use this stuff called
> "Sweet PDZ" which you sprinkle out like lime (looks like lime too, it's a
> sodium-silicate-something), about a coffee-can full does it for a 12x12
> stall, plus the pee-hole (all stall horses seem to have one).
> I've had a couple real flooders, and despite cleaning three times a day,
> their stalls reeked until I started putting this down. Sweet PDZ (that's
> the brand name, maybe there's an equivalent) costs more than lime, but you
> end up using less, and in the long run it ends up doing a better job for
> less money.
>
Does anyone know if you can use this stuff on wood floors? We have 2" spruce in
our barn, and aside from the ammonia smell, it's great. I use lime
occasionally, but would prefer something that works a little better.
Thanks,
Meg
SRohan6154
In article <3614B69D...@easternscience.com>, Meg Alfoni
<mal...@easternscience.com> writes:
>Does anyone know if you can use this stuff on wood floors? We have 2" spruce
>in
>our barn, and aside from the ammonia smell, it's great. I use lime
>occasionally, but would prefer something that works a little better.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Meg
I use PDZ on wood floor stalls all the time. It isn't as caustic on floor and
hoof as lime. Works better too, IMHO.
Stacy Rohan
"Leis gach deagh dhurachad" -I can learn to resist anything but temptation...
kirsti_s...@remove.hp.com
<hayseedsr...@jumpnet.com> wrote:
>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls.
Be thankful that the entire stall isn't wet...
> He pees in the SAME spot EVERYTIME!
This is a Good Thing...
> We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
>of turn out.
You aren't bedding and cleaning the stall properly...
> The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>Help! Suggestions?
Put more shavings in the stall, use a stall mat if you can. One thing
I notice about boarding stables when it comes to shavings (or any
bedding for that matter), they are pretty chincy with them and tend to
push the shaving clear to the wall of the stall. Bad, bad, bad...
When I bed my stalls, the majority of the shavings go right in the
center. Horses have a tendency to walk around the stall and the
shavings eventually get distributed pretty evenly.
BTW, I stopped using lime a decade ago and have gone to using good old
cat litter. Less dusty, smells better, less of a health hazard and
does a much better job of absorbing odors.
Kirsti
Jane H. Kilberg
(Tivers) wrote:
>>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>>SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
>>of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>>Help! Suggestions?
>>
>>Linda Garriott
>
>Hmm, you've got to learn to properly clean and bed stalls. Most stalled horses
>pee in the same place.
LOL...my new stud, Tarzan, certainly does - kinda! He takes out so much
hay from his rack and places it very neatly just in front of the feeder.
Then he lays his apples on top. Unfortunately, everytime he goes to his
feeder/rack, he spreads out his piles. He pees in the middle of the stall,
then lays down on top of the wet mess. I presume, the moisture keeps him
cooler. Either that or he likes the daily shower I give him so he figures
he needs to get all smelly to make sure he gets one.
--
down the spotted trails. . .
jane h. kilberg and her gang of spots (GOS)
member: ApHC, Montgomery County Adult Horse Committee
editor/publisher: Appaloosa Network
Ron Miller
>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
>of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>Help! Suggestions?
>
I dug out Skippy's favorite spot, next to his feed bin, and
graded the ground there so that it would drain out of his
stall. I covered the spot with DG (decomposed granite) and
topped it with wood shavings. The wood shavings protect his
hay from getting too sloppy when he yanks it out of his bin
at feeding time. Also, his feet don't get too mucky
(anymore). Of course, the wood shavings are replaced
regularly, but the DG stays.
The ground here is hard clay, so it takes a long time for
water to soak into it (or to dry after the rain). It
drains, unfortunately, into the main aisle between the
stalls and the arena. Oh well. At least he doesn't have to
stand in it. I call it Lake Skippy.
Ron Miller
tjon...@together.net
"Hayseed" <hayseedsr...@jumpnet.com> wrote:
> There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
> SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
> of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
> down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
> Help! Suggestions?
>
If this stall has proper drainage, cleaning, and bedding then you should
consider having the vet examine the horse for a possible medical problem
causing excessive urination. (ie: kidney problems, diabetes insipidus, or
other metabolic or hormonal conditions) --Dawn
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Robby Johnson
>
> There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
> SAME spot EVERYTIME! We can't get it to dry up even though he gets 8 hours
> of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
> down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
> Help! Suggestions?
Eeek! He pees? You mean you haven't trained him not to pee? I'm sure
there must be a natural video on the market now (big snicker, couldn't
resist).
There are advantages/disadvantages to the proverbial "wet spot." First,
depending on your stall floor, you may be digging a hole to China and
refilling it with only shavings. If you're on top of doing your stalls
and have extra shavings to spare, you may find that allowing the hole to
reach its maximum size (if your horse is quiet and well-behaved when
stalled and doesn't dig, it'll only get so big) then taking out wet
shavings and refilling daily is a simple solution. This is what we did
for a little QH when I was in high school as repacking the floor was a
fruitless, cyclical project.
I have my TB mare, Willow, on rubber stall mats on top of a floor I just
packed with Donnefill. She's a hot walker/nervous weaver and had dug a
huge hole in her stall. She's also very typical TB and poops/pees
wherever she sees fit (she'd fit right in at Mardi Gras). When I
stripped her stall it amazed me to see all of the wet spots. I bought
two rubber trailer mats actually to test the waters before I sunk lots
of money into large, really thick stall mats. The main traffic area
that is covered by rubber mats (5/8" thick) is 48 sq. ft. Her stall is
100 sq. ft. The wet spots are very easy to find and remove on top of
the rubber, but you do have to replace shavings as often, in my
situation. If Willow were quiet in the stall I think it'd be more
beneficial but, as it is, she tends to pulverize shavings in 2-3 days
time.
Make sure you're shuffling shavings and turning them so they can dry out
and take any wet, rank shavings out of the stall!! Rancid, urine
reeking stalls are horrendous on a respiratory system. The lime is
great for sanitary reasons but it isn't going to stop your horse's
urinary functions. If he's really bad you could pour a concrete floor,
place a drain where he usually pees and then cover the rest of the floor
(but not the drain) with rubber mats. Might help!
Good luck,
Robby and Willow (I pee, therefore someone cleans it up, therefore I am
a princess!)
Eiyan
>Hayseed wrote:
>>
>> There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>> SAME spot EVERYTIME!
Many horses do - they are creatures of habit, you know. The best option is
rubber mats, and if you can't afford to mat the whole stall, you can buy one
that's about 4x6 ft. and put it down over his wet spot. Should cost about $45
for one mat. I've done that before and it works pretty well. Sometimes they
shift the mat around and you have to re-arrange it, but it saves the flooring
underneath.
Ann
ARABS4ME
>
>Does anyone know if you can use this stuff on wood floors? We have 2" spruce
>in
>our barn, and aside from the ammonia smell, it's great. I use lime
>occasionally, but would prefer something that works a little better.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Meg
>
>
If you can find it, there's a product that's even better than PDZ. It's called
Stall Dry.
>
>
>
>
>
Dawn & The Boys at
Mystic Valley Arabians
Tallysgal
>There is a constant wet spot in one of our horses stalls. He pees in the
>of turn out. The stall is always wet and attracts flys. We do put lime
>down to controll the smell but he is always standing in a pool of pee.
>Help! Suggestions?
>
Hi Linda,
I have had my horse on several types of flooring and feel qualified <G> to
speak on this matter. My horse, like most geldings, also pees in pretty much
the same spot every time. The key to getting rid of the pee spot is to SCRAPE
it down to dry clay every single day and then leaving the pit free of bedding
during turnout so it can dry. This does make the pit grow over time, so you
will have to repack the clay on a regular basis. Frankly, I think this is a
lot of work.
The absolute best solution, IMHO, is rubber stall mats. Level the stall
immaculately with clay or crushed stone dust and then put down the rubber mats
leaving no space between the mats (start at the middle of the stall and work
your way out so that any gaps are on the edges of the stall). Then, bed your
stall with adequate shavings....I think 4" provides optimal absorbtion and
cushion while remaining relatively easy to clean. I never bed the edges of the
stall within about 10-12 inches of the wall. It is a waste of bedding as the
horse will "spread" bedding out to the perimeters as he moves around the stall.
Be sure you find an absorbant bedding material. Wood shavings tend to be more
absorbant than straw. Then, be sure you always have the thickest amount of
bedding in the pee spot area. Every day, totally strip that area and then pick
the apples from the rest of the bedding. Then, move the older bedding into the
pee area and put fresh bedding in where you need it.
Stall mats are expensive, but will save you so much time in the long run that
you will wonder why you never had them before!! Just don't let anyone tell you
that if you have mats, you don't need as much bedding. Not true at all.
The main point is to use an adequate amount of quality, absorbant bedding
(seems to be a problem in a lot of boarding barns) and take out ALL of the
wet stuff on a daily basis. You have to scrape the pee spot all the way down
to the stall floor no matter what type of flooring you have.
Good luck
Karen.
Jazanot
Yep, pees in the same spot every day, eh? Potty is in the same place for all
neat ponies, most of mine even come "in" to pee! They can be out all day,
grazing and then come in and pee for me, I'm so honored! <NOT>
Deeper bedding, and the kitty litter idea is the best I have heard in
years.....gotta try that one on my rubber mats, though I already bed rather
deeply. Even with mats you have to use lime to get rid of the urine smell, I
brush out bedding some weekends, lime, dry floor and sweep off the excess to
help make the floor less "eye-watering". My girls do love a good pee on all
that fresh bedding! Cork anyone? <G>
Jaz,
Midnight Rainbow, Allegra, Kinzua, and Bailar del Bravio
(whew what a mouthful!)
bluee...@my-dejanews.com
Your posts gave me a chuckle as my Arab gelding always goes in the same spot
and he also comes inside to do "about all" of his business. He's not stupid,
he knows good ol "mom" would clean it up!!!!!LOL
bye for now,