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SundanceXX

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Just curious-what does cause that sound when they are trotting? Is it a dirty
sheath?

C. S.

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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If it's the sound that I think you're asking about stallions also have
it when trotting.

suzan


Jane H. Kilberg

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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In article <19981022125617...@ng-cr1.aol.com>,
sunda...@aol.com (SundanceXX) wrote:

>Just curious-what does cause that sound when they are trotting? Is it a dirty
>sheath?

Just squishing of air

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Dar

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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I will refrain! :)
These are just too funny!

Dar
Just Keep Smiling...
It's Contagious!

Jane H. Kilberg wrote in message ...

Deb

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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I had been told a a young un that that noise is "broken wind" caused by a
horse being asked to do too much too soon. Anyone one else been told
likewise?


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Dar

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Oct 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/22/98
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Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
but mares can do it too.

Dar


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Rocky

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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sunda...@aol.com (SundanceXX) wrote:

>Just curious-what does cause that sound when they are trotting? Is it a dirty
>sheath?

Grin, I asked the same question when i got my first gelding.
Both geldings and stallions do that squeaky sound when they
trot or canter.

It is nothing to worry about, it totally natural. It is
caused by their "male parts" and has to do with the way the
air moves through them, and I also heard it is the way they
are rubbing. Either way, it is totally normal, not a dirty
sheath, and nothing to worry about.

Of course, your horse could be rusty, and needs some oil !!!

(just joking about the oil) :)

Rocky

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Mary Rossano

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Does anyone have Deborah Stevenson's poem about the sound geldings make?

Am I spelling it right?

Mary Rossano

Rebekah

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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While at a horse show a gelding was making that noise during a jumper
class. A non-horsey father asked another non-horsey parent what that
noise was, and the reply was a squeaky saddle that had been cleaned to
much. I thought this was soooooooo funny!!!!

-RAK

Dar wrote:
>
> Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
> I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
> but mares can do it too.
>
> Dar
>
> Deb wrote in message ...
> >I had been told a a young un that that noise is "broken wind" caused by a
> >horse being asked to do too much too soon. Anyone one else been told
> >likewise?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >SundanceXX wrote in message
> ><19981022125617...@ng-cr1.aol.com>...

Mary Healey

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Rocky wrote:
> It is nothing to worry about, it totally natural.

Maybe. I have been told that the "gwook" noise is an indication that
the horse is not using his back/butt correctly. This seems to be
consistent with my experience - my gelding "gwooks" when tense, nervous,
not "forward", and/or hollow. When he's moving correctly, relaxed, and
forward - no "gwook". An extremely dirty sheath makes it more difficult
for him to relax and round up, so in that respect a dirty sheath
contributes to the "gwook"ing.

M.

bra...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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HUH? I have NEVER heard a mare do this, as I have been told it is the penis
in the sheath, so must be male. I would definitely be alarmed if my mare's
gut was making such a commotion!
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Dar wrote in message <70op5o$djh$1...@ins8.netins.net>...


>Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
>I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
>but mares can do it too.

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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I have to disagree with this one. While a dirty sheath might contribute, I
have seen some VERY nice horses, round, soft, quiet, doing top level
dressage, jumping, western pleasure, etc. and still make the noise, but
usually only at the trot, as that seems to be the most consistently up and
down motion for the penis to rub in the sheath. It is interesting though
that your experience contradicts this...

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Mary Healey wrote in message <36309BA1...@iastate.edu>...


>Maybe. I have been told that the "gwook" noise is an indication that
>the horse is not using his back/butt correctly. This seems to be
>consistent with my experience - my gelding "gwooks" when tense,
>nervous, not "forward", and/or hollow. When he's moving correctly,
>relaxed, and forward - no "gwook". An extremely dirty sheath makes
>it more difficult for him to relax and round up, so in that respect a
>dirty sheath contributes to the "gwook"ing.

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J. Zambory

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Great story!!

It's not just geldings that make the gwook-gwook noise. I used to
ride a QH stallion that made it. I thought it was a squeaky western
saddle at first, until I rode him english!

Jennifer Zambory

On Fri, 23 Oct 1998 08:34:52 -0400, Rebekah <reb...@mastech.com>
wrote:

>While at a horse show a gelding was making that noise during a jumper
>class. A non-horsey father asked another non-horsey parent what that
>noise was, and the reply was a squeaky saddle that had been cleaned to
>much. I thought this was soooooooo funny!!!!
>
>-RAK
>
>Dar wrote:
>>

>> Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
>> I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
>> but mares can do it too.
>>

Catja Pafort

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Mary wrote:

>I have been told that the "gwook" noise is an indication that
>the horse is not using his back/butt correctly. This seems to be
>consistent with my experience - my gelding "gwooks" when tense, nervous,
>not "forward", and/or hollow. When he's moving correctly, relaxed, and
>forward - no "gwook".

Absolutely. Whenever you hear that sound, it's *high time* to evaluate
your riding. A relaxed gelding will go noiselessly. The frequency
might go back with sheath cleaning - but it won't disappear.

I wince at people producing audible tension in their horses and
foregoing to ignore it...

Catja
and Billy


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Jessica Snyder

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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> Dar wrote:
> >
> > Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
> > I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
> > but mares can do it too.

No, mares can not make this noise (presuming we're talking about
the same noise). It is due to the sloshing around inside the sheath,
which of course mares don't have. (and if yours does, call Ripley's
Believe it or Not at once!)

Jessica
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Jessica Snyder

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Catja Pafort wrote:

> Mary wrote:
>
> >I have been told that the "gwook" noise is an indication that
> >the horse is not using his back/butt correctly. This seems to be
> >consistent with my experience - my gelding "gwooks" when tense, nervous,
> >not "forward", and/or hollow. When he's moving correctly, relaxed, and
> >forward - no "gwook".
>
> Absolutely. Whenever you hear that sound, it's *high time* to evaluate
> your riding. A relaxed gelding will go noiselessly.

What about the relaxed, happy gelding playing around in the paddock who
is also making that noise? Now granted, I'm used to hearing it with Arabs
who are playing around, tails up, having a good 'ol time. And the standard
Arabian "play" posture tends to be hollow, but not stiff or tense.

Is it more a matter of the body outline/carriage and less a matter of
mental tension? I agree that horses in the proper carriage don't tend
to make the "gwook" (at least I've never heard it in a show ring), but
I've seen plenty of horses who are very tense and unhappy but still
riding in the proper "frame" who also don't make any "gwooking"

Just stray thoughts on the issue.

Dr Corinne B Leek

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Mary Healey <mhhe...@iastate.edu> wrote:

>Maybe. I have been told that the "gwook" noise is an indication that


>the horse is not using his back/butt correctly. This seems to be
>consistent with my experience - my gelding "gwooks" when tense, nervous,
>not "forward", and/or hollow. When he's moving correctly, relaxed, and

>forward - no "gwook". An extremely dirty sheath makes it more difficult
>for him to relax and round up, so in that respect a dirty sheath
>contributes to the "gwook"ing.

There was a big discussion on this a couple years ago. If you check
Deja News, I believe there was a thread with Gwook-gwook in the title.
In fact, it might have even been named "That gwook-gwook noise/sound".

If my feeble memory serves at all.

Corinne, who has senior moments....
Troika, who seems to recall that thread, too...
Jazz, who won't ever "gwook"...
Toby, TIBD, who doesn't gwook, but slobbers....
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Dar

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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Jessica Snyder wrote in message <3630E67E...@students.wisc.edu>...

>
>
>
>> Dar wrote:
>> >
>> > Nope...this noise comes from their belly.
>> > I've always called it "Gelding Gut",
>> > but mares can do it too.
>
>No, mares can not make this noise (presuming we're talking about
>the same noise). It is due to the sloshing around inside the sheath,
>which of course mares don't have. (and if yours does, call Ripley's
>Believe it or Not at once!)
>

No my neighbor thought hers did...I was
telling her about his last night. So, I went over,
rode the gelding 1st, mare 2nd. Guess what?
She did notice the difference. :)

Dar

jo...@dhh.gt.org

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Oct 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/23/98
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brandis writes:
> While a dirty sheath might contribute, I have seen some VERY nice horses,
> round, soft, quiet, doing top level dressage, jumping, western pleasure,
> etc. and still make the noise, but usually only at the trot, as that
> seems to be the most consistently up and down motion for the penis to rub
> in the sheath.

The sound only occurs when the penis is fully retracted. A tense gelding
or stallion will always fully retract his penis, while a relaxed one may
allow it to protrude a few inches. Thus the association of the gwook with
tension.

Is someone going to repost the poem?
--
John Hasler
jo...@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI

Dokkers

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Mary Rossano wrote:

>Does anyone have Deborah Stevenson's poem about the sound geldings make?
>
>Am I spelling it right?

Can't believe noone else has reposted this yet! Well, I knew I was here for a
reason.

And here, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a repost of the *classic* rec.eq. poem (drum
roll, please). The author was indeed Deborah Stevenson.

"Gwendolyn and the Mysterious Gwook"
or
"It's All Gwook to Me"

On a bright springy day in Virginialeeland
Rode a girl on her horse (and the weather was grand).
They started to trot just past Newbieboob Brook
And from somewhere beneath them, a small sound went "Gwook."

Gwendolyn was astonished; she reined the horse back
As "Gwook" was a sound never heard from her hack.
Jogging home in a jiffy, she then searched a book
For light on the source of that puzzling "Gwook."

And who would have guessed it but there it all was:
The tale of the things that a geldingÕs sheath does;
Orchitically speaking, he's two under quotum.
And so melodies came from her steedÕs empty scrotum.

Now this lass lends her horse, with his gonadal tune,
To the village quartet when they need a bassoon.
And that's why I blither, in verse anapestical,
Of the wonderful sound caused by lack of a testicle.

Deborah Stevenson (stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Poet-lariat in Champaign, IL, USA

--------------------------------------------------
It's so beautiful <sniff>.

Kelly & Doc
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Mary Rossano

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Dokkers wrote:
>
> It's so beautiful <sniff>.

Yes it is! And I had forgotten how *moving* it is.

Thanks, I needed that...

Mary Rossano

Deborah Stevenson

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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In <3631DD...@cvm.msu.edu> Mary Rossano <ross...@cvm.msu.edu> writes:

>Dokkers wrote:
>>
>> It's so beautiful <sniff>.

>Yes it is! And I had forgotten how *moving* it is.

*Ahem*. Just for the record, for those wondering about my odd poetic
inclinations, I'd like to point out that it was essentially written on a
bet :-). So there's no hoof-care sonnet-sequence coming soon or
anything...

Deborah Stevenson (stev...@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu)
Still waiting for that check in Champaign, IL, USA

Ignatzmom

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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>Deborah Stevenson (stevenso@alex

> Just for the record, for those wondering about my odd poetic
>inclinations, I'd like to point out that it was essentially written on a
>bet :-). So there's no hoof-care sonnet-sequence coming soon or
>anything...

Oh, boo, hoo. and I was looking forward to at least a haiku on the beauty of
the frog! Loved the pome, and obviously missed it the first time out. should
be part of the owner's manual for all little girls acquiring geldings.


Lee Z, Still riding after all these years.

Spellbound

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Deborah,
Surely you would not deny your adoring public more of your lyrical yet
touching odes to the noble horse. Forsooth I beg, please, please more! Take
up thy pen and glorify yet another mundane task, make it soar and reward us
for our years of drudgery and mucking!

--
Tracy Meisenbach How Shakespeare kept this crap up for an entire play I
will never know
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Spellbound Performance Horses
When anyone thinks he has found something new,
he may be sure that some old riding master has had the same
experience and that it has been only temporarily forgotten.
Alois Podhajsky- Principals of Classical Horsemanship.

Deborah Stevenson wrote in message <70t0v3$cil$1...@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>...


>In <3631DD...@cvm.msu.edu> Mary Rossano <ross...@cvm.msu.edu> writes:
>
>>Dokkers wrote:
>>>
>>> It's so beautiful <sniff>.
>
>>Yes it is! And I had forgotten how *moving* it is.
>

>*Ahem*. Just for the record, for those wondering about my odd poetic


>inclinations, I'd like to point out that it was essentially written on a
>bet :-). So there's no hoof-care sonnet-sequence coming soon or
>anything...
>

Rocky

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Oct 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/24/98
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Rebekah <reb...@mastech.com> wrote:

>While at a horse show a gelding was making that noise during a jumper
>class. A non-horsey father asked another non-horsey parent what that
>noise was, and the reply was a squeaky saddle that had been cleaned to
>much. I thought this was soooooooo funny!!!!

You mean they didnt do an oil change on that saddle prior to
the show? I thought that is the first thing that should be
done when showing a horse. A saddle with filthy oil could
cause the rider to blow a rod during the show, which of
course can be life threatening. :)

Laura Friedman

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Dokkers wrote:

> And here, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a repost of the *classic* rec.eq. poem (drum
> roll, please). The author was indeed Deborah Stevenson.

>(snip)

Damn, that was good.

Laura (feeling her rec.eq poet lauretess title slipping away) &
Squiggles (feeling her vacation slipping away)

L2gator

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Oct 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/26/98
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Marvelously done! I remember the *gwook* thread but seemed to have missed the
poem. Thanks!


l2g...@aol.com
Mary Huwaldt
Foal's Paradise Farm

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