Horseshoes starting fires?
Wilson
horseshoes hitting rocks and sparking? I was thinking about that
yesterday as I was riding through the scabrock/dry grass when it was
90 degrees out. Hummmm....
Don Bruder
Wilso...@yahoo.com (Wilson) wrote:
Dunno about horseshoes doing it, but about three years ago out here in
Granola-land (You know... California - the land of flakes, fruits, and
nuts), a fellow got himself fined/billed/whatever close to a million
bucks for the costs of fighting a wildfire that he unknowingly started
by trying to (ironically enough) create a firebreak with his bulldozer.
Investigators concluded that he'd struck a spark off a rock with either
the track, the disc, or the dozer's blade. They couldn't be any more
specific than that, for obvious reasons.
I can't see any reason why horseshoes on the right (or wrong, as your
view may be) kind of terrain would automatically be exempt from starting
fires... Unlikely? Perhaps. Impossible? I doubt it.
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Macnutt
Interesting question. My driveway is made up of a very rough aggregate
concrete, and when shod, my horses throw up plenty of sparks
navigating the steep slope. It rarely gets so hot here that we are
tinder-dry, but still bears a thought...
Phetsy Calderon
> horseshoes hitting rocks and sparking?
Sorta. There's a field in Merced County, California, out towards the
Lake (I *think* it's on McKee, kind of close to Speaker's place) in
which one can only ride to work cows if one's horse is shod with
copper, as there is a large flint deposit there and yes, sparks fly
when steel meets mineral.
>I was thinking about that
> yesterday as I was riding through the scabrock/dry grass when it was
> 90 degrees out. Hummmm....
Now we need a geologist, or mechanical engineer who's up on his or her
material properties, to tell us if steel will spark off granite. I
don't remember that it will, but that doesn't eliminate the
possibility.
Phetsy
Hadn't thought about that in a looong time
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> Now we need a geologist, or mechanical engineer who's up on his or her
> material properties, to tell us if steel will spark off granite. I
> don't remember that it will, but that doesn't eliminate the
> possibility.
I think Margie is some type of materials engineer. Maybe she'll comment.
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sharon
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Wilson
> material properties, to tell us if steel will spark off granite. I
> don't remember that it will, but that doesn't eliminate the
> possibility.
>
>
answer for both types of rock. Anybody need rock for a decorative
wall? Come on down, we will load you up!
Polish arabians
horses. due to the chance of a spark being shot off and a fire started.. it can
happen.. and i believe it has happend before. tho i personally never saw it
happen..
i suspect they will close the national forests to us yet again this year due to
the extreme growth from our winter rains.. and the extreme dryness due to the
lack of spring/summer rains.
Claudia Wheatley
polisha...@aol.com (Polish arabians) wrote:
Most of the problems in this world seem directly attributable to
maldistribution.
It has been raining here since Sunday evening. If I possibly could, I
would blow the rainclouds back your way. Then we could BOTH go riding.
C
Claudia Wheatley, Ithaca, NY
"Government is the entertainment division of the
military industrial complex." --Frank Zappa
Kelly Lee
It seems that at sometime I read about horses shoes being made from
brass just for that very reason. These horses were used in some
vocation that had flammable material around. Maybe it was donkey's
shoes that used to be used in mining pulling ore cars, and possible gas
in the mines. Maybe Tom will be around and set me straight.
Kelly Lee
Don Bruder
Kelly Lee <nospa...@velocitus.net> wrote:
Ponies in coal mines is the picture that absolutely *LEAPS* to mind for
that one...
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Wilson
> We are on lava rock here, but it would be interesting to know the
> answer for both types of rock. Anybody need rock for a decorative
> wall? Come on down, we will load you up!
Oop, sorry. I mean basalt rock.
Shouldnt play with the computer so late at night....
Wilson
>
> > > >
> > >
> > answer for both types of rock. Anybody need rock for a decorative
> > wall? Come on down, we will load you up!
Sorry- Its really old lava rock. No volcanos like in your area! I
meant basalt. We are in eastern Washington state, about 30 miles from
the Idaho border. Some of the area is glacial deposits, but much of
the area is volcanic, so we have lots of basalt scabrock. Setting
fence posts is a real bear.
JJ
Hi Wilson,
Well, I don't know about wildfires but I've sure seen a horse show
almost start a barn fire on two different occasions!
Once was due to a HOT shoe...horse was being shod, turned (VERY
unexpectedly) and bit the CRAP outta the farrier...he dropped the shoe
and it landed in the aisle. Even though the aisle was pretty clean
and swept up and it was cement, the hot shoe managed to "find" a
little piece of hay and light up. Fortunately, we were able to stamp
it out quick.
Similar thing happened with a horse that was pawing in the aisle...he
made sparks! Again, humans were nearby and stamped out the sparks
before anything got started. Makes you think though.
I'm sure it could happen outside as well...JJ
Wilson
> Once was due to a HOT shoe...horse was being shod, turned (VERY
> unexpectedly) and bit the CRAP outta the farrier...he dropped the shoe
> and it landed in the aisle. Even though the aisle was pretty clean
> and swept up and it was cement, the hot shoe managed to "find" a
> little piece of hay and light up. Fortunately, we were able to stamp
> it out quick.
>
>
is shaping the shoes. Usually it is over gravel, but there is a little
grass and hay in it. I could see where the slag could start something.
Just for fun, we are going to do a night ride, just to see if we
produce any sparks.
JJ
How'd your night ride go? Kick up any sparks! ;-) I hope not! JJ
Wilson
> > > unexpectedly) and bit the CRAP outta the farrier...he dropped the shoe
> > > and it landed in the aisle. Even though the aisle was pretty clean
> > > and swept up and it was cement, the hot shoe managed to "find" a
> > > little piece of hay and light up. Fortunately, we were able to stamp
> > > it out quick.
> > >
> > >
> > That makes me think about the surface my farrier works over while he
> > is shaping the shoes. Usually it is over gravel, but there is a little
> > grass and hay in it. I could see where the slag could start something.
> >
> > Just for fun, we are going to do a night ride, just to see if we
> > produce any sparks.
>
> How'd your night ride go? Kick up any sparks! ;-) I hope not! JJ
Research completed. No sparks. We went out after dark and walked a
horse all over the basalt. Our group of highly trained observers, with
only a little beer on board, determined that we are not a fire hazard.
This is a good thing, because our whole darn area is burning up.
Another brush fire today right in the middle of town! Kids with
fireworks started it, not horseshoes on rocks...
JJ
Good to know! Did someone SMACK those kids!? <grin> And even you
did start a small fire, you had the beer to put it out with right!
Take care, JJ
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and the followup . . .
http://anvilmag.com/farrier/209f3.htm
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Wilson
>
> http://anvilmag.com/farrier/apprent.htm
>
> and the followup . . .
>
> http://anvilmag.com/farrier/209f3.htm
Too funny. Thanks for sharing.