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MFields107

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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Tell him to be a man! ;) No, really, I've been riding over 40 years
and only occasionally had problems involving bucking and saddle horns.
ouch! When I was a "button" I some times did the "Sir Godiva" thing on my
horse bare back into a pond or lake and used him as a diving board/swim
platform. :) Never had a problem!
I imagine there will be comments about size, etc. but I just don't
care! ;) I sure had fun swimming with my horse, both of us "au natural"
maybe I'll do that again next time I'm out.

Mike Fields, Warning! If you see me on the trail, don't look, or you may
go blind!
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MFiel...@aol.com

Laura Wallingford, Pennsylvania

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
know it sounds weird, but I want to know.

Grant Harris

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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Had a problem with squishing 'naughty bits' (thanks Monty) when I started
riding. After a while, you learn to make certain 'adjustments' before
getting on, and as your balance and seat improve, the problem seems to go
away for the most part. Athletic supporter helps for some people.

Grant Harris, Baltimore Horse Country
http://www.bcpl.lib.md.us/~gharris/home.html

Frans Goddijn

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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said Laura Wallingford, Pennsylvania to All:

L WP> I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
L WP> horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
L WP> know it sounds weird, but I want to know.

I don't, but I remember from early riding lessons that I leaned forward
too much when bouncing, like when the horse was going from gallop back to
trot, and this was sufficiently hurtfull for me to start taking the
instructor's advice to try and sit more straight up...

It wasn't so much the weenie hurt, as the testicles resenting to get
mashed up against the front of the saddle.

Met hartelijke groet!

Frans Goddijn | bbs: +31 (0)26 3217041
Postbus 30196 | email: god...@fgbbs.iaf.nl
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Brian Combs

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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> I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
> horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
> know it sounds weird, but I want to know.

No, men do not wear cups while riding. Close fitting underware, appropriate adjustments
before mounting and as needed, and a good seat will take care of the problem. This is a
common question that I have been asked even by very experienced instructors.
brian


Jennifer Langley

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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LauraWallingford wrote:
: I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
: horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
: know it sounds weird, but I want to know.

*giggle* Hey it happens. Should see their faces the first time they try
a sliding stop in a western saddle with nice large swells on it!
*thwap* I guess that's one of the reason I find it easier to teach
little girls ...

And it doesn't sound weird at all. Even experianced male riders have
occasional mishaps. (though I've heard that snug underwear help to keep
it all in place ;) I would think a cup might actually cause problems
with their seat ... Not sure though. What do you think guys?

--
Jennifer Langley
jay...@primenet.com

Donna Thompson

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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No,I don't wear a cup but,I wear a pair of supportive
underwear from State Line Tack.Also try a jock strap.

Danny


Alseg

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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No......Hanes His Way,perhaps, but no cups.
allan

Morgan James

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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bco...@seanet.com (Brian Combs) wrote:

>
>> I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
>> horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
>> know it sounds weird, but I want to know.
>

>No, men do not wear cups while riding. Close fitting underware, appropriate adjustments
>before mounting and as needed, and a good seat will take care of the problem. This is a
>common question that I have been asked even by very experienced instructors.
>brian
>

LOL, this really gave me a chuckle ;)
Sooooo, I just had to relate an event I witnessed years ago when being
instructed by an excellent example of a female hunter/jumper rider
(both possible interpretations entirely correct) on how to go about
staying on the horse during an impending foxhunt I had been invited to
attend (remember, at this time I had ridden exclusively western, and
in roping saddles to boot).

Well, after about 15 minutes of demonstrating seating position and
form on the flat , she headed off towards her first jump, cleared it
exceedingly well, then approached the following fence at which point
the horse saw, heard, smelled, or imagined some horror sufficiently
important enough to cause it to immediately achieve "0" forward
velocity. Unfortunately, my instructress did not similarly
decellerate but continued more or less in the original direction
causing her to 'slide' (well 'sliding is not exactly what she did but
you get the picture...) forward over the pommel, and then proceed up
the neck, past the ears and remarkably, (well, it was a TALL horse..)
over the fence which she cleared quite handily (see, 'Bigger IS
Better!!! hehehehe), and after what appeared to be a full forward
somesault (in the pike position no less!) she established contact with
terra firma in her original sitting position at which time she reached
between her legs with both hands and proceeded to kind of 'squirrel'
around on the ground for what seemed a good ten seconds or so.

My first reaction was that I knew EXACTLY what she was holding onto,
but a split second later, recalling that SHE was not similarly
equipped....it dawned on me that men weren't the ONLY ones who could
take a good bruising from a pommel... :)

Morgan

PS
For those of you with "Enquiring Minds"....it turned out that her
accident was not the only cause of my 'lost weekend' lol, as the
conclusion of the infamous 'Foxhunt' found me similarly incapacitated,
but that's another story........... ;)

PS
Yes, it IS a LOT more funny now than it was then.)


Nancy Kaminski

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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at...@cswnet.com (Morgan James) wrote:
>bco...@seanet.com (Brian Combs) wrote:
>
>>
>>> I have always wondered this. I gave my brother a "lesson" on my
>>> horse, and he whined about landing on and squishing his wien. I
>>> know it sounds weird, but I want to know.
>>

This brings to mind a puissance class I saw a number of years ago. The
puissance wall was up to 6 ft 10 or so, and a rider (male) made a gallant
attempt at it. His horse made a really big effort and jumped him out of
the saddle. Well, you know when the horse is landing from that high a
jump he's almost vertical, and the poor rider very obviously landed hard
directly on the pommel, but miraculously stayed aboard. He cantered his
horse straight out the in gate (instead of walking him out like everyone
else was). He got a big round of applause. What most of the people in the
arena couldn't see, but I could because of the angle, was that as soon as
he was in the tunnel, he slid off his horse, clutched his crotch and sank
down on the ground. Now that's the showring spirit! Oh--he didn't come
back for the next round. Somehow I don't blame him. (And believe me,
women can relate to this experience, as I found out in high school when I
missed my footing on the balance beam, fell and straddled the beam. It
was an out-of-body experience.)


mick hart

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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In article <4f6qn6$4...@cobra.Minn.Net> Nancy Kaminski <nanc...@minn.net> writes:
>From: Nancy Kaminski <nanc...@minn.net>
>Subject: Re: Do men riders wear cups?
>Date: 6 Feb 1996 05:59:02 GMT

>This brings to mind a puissance class I saw a number of years ago. The
>puissance wall was up to 6 ft 10 or so, and a rider (male) made a gallant

Wasn't that one of the Cheska brothers?
I saw something _very_ similar to that on a tape called "Rough Riders"
which shows all kinds of falls set to appropriate music. The tape
is really funny (all riders get right up -- it's not intended to be a
depressing tape) and there are crashes shown
that I hope I never have...

Lisa

Gail Ivey

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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ROFL!
I once had a horse jump a ditch while I was riding western, and he
jumped MUCH higher than I expected.
I had an immediate flashback to that forgotten tricycle seat when I
was four! YIKES!

I once gave a lesson to a fellow on a fairly smooth moving horse,
and was trying to get him to recognize a certain feel in his seat
bones. When he finally got it, he said, "Yes, I can feel it, but
I'm not telling you WHERE I feel it!"

It sort of makes me wonder why men take up the sport.

Barrie Avis

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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No of course not.

If you have got a saddle that fits YOU and not just the horse, your seat
bones are the bits that support you (that's why most women need a
different saddle - they have wider pelvises so need a wider flatter seat
- but not many saddlers realise this) so the bits in between or in front
never come into contact with the saddle (not unless you really come
unstuck jumping and land on the pommel - which is a bit eye-watering, or
so I imagine - but then if you do as we were taught and shorten your
stirrups for hunting and jumping, it is very difficult to make contact
anyway).
--
Barrie Avis

MFields107

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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In article <3117a0a9...@134.153.2.38>, cl...@terra.nlnet.nf.ca (CB
Leek) writes:

>mfiel...@aol.com (MFields107) wrote:
>
><<<snipped some interesting details ;-) >>>


>
>> I imagine there will be comments about size, etc. but I just don't
>>care! ;) I sure had fun swimming with my horse, both of us "au natural"
>>maybe I'll do that again next time I'm out.
>>Mike Fields, Warning! If you see me on the trail, don't look, or you may
>>go blind!
>>1025...@compuserve.com
>>MFiel...@aol.com

>Nope. Not gonna shut *my* eyes! Nope. Uh-uh! Wanna see! <leer>
>I used to own a stallion - now *that's* an interesting size! ;-)

I can see that I'd better keep *my* eyes open! 8)
Mike

DavidG8089

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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When I started riding, particularly after my first lesson posting (sheer
torture!) I tried wearing a cup but I found it more uncomfortable than it
was worth. I settled on occasionally wearing a supporter to keep
everything ...where it should be.

\"... and so we will try to come to terms with\ David Gurzynski \
\a future which is written in the past." \david...@aol.com\
/ Ian Watson / Brooklyn NYC
/

Mary Lark

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Feb 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/7/96
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In article <4f6qn6$4...@cobra.Minn.Net>,
Nancy Kaminski <nanc...@minn.net> wrote:
<snipped great story about man landing on pommel>

>(And believe me,
>women can relate to this experience, as I found out in high school when I
>missed my footing on the balance beam, fell and straddled the beam. It
>was an out-of-body experience.)
>

Yessirree! I certainly can relate. When I was 10 I wanted
desparately to follow my sister on a trail ride. She, as most older
sisters I know *hated* to be followed by their bratty little sister.
So, she put me up to a challenge. She told me to mount our 15.3h QH
gelding bareback, and take that 2'6" jump over there.

Having *never* jumped in my life, but being able to hang on to
anything that moved, I was game. I headed the horse for the jump. He
was nice and relaxed as we moved towards it. He took the jump like an
old pro without missing a beat. The feeling I had as we took of from
the ground was pure excitement.

Then we landed. I was intimately introduced to the severity of his
withers. EEEEiiiii!

--Mary
ml...@tfs.com
Concord, CA


Morgan James

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Feb 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/8/96
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ml...@tfs.com (Mary Lark) wrote:

Mary, wasn't there a famous jumper a few years back who came
completely off the horse during the jump and then rejoined him
somewhere on the other side? I mean it was the most amazing technique
I ever saw, I think he was referred to as the 'Flying Finn" or
something and was pretty successfull at it.
Morgan


Robert Johnson jr

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Feb 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/8/96
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I would assume your brother probably wasn't very interested in riding to
begin with which is why he complained about his anatomy. You know how
young guys are; always wanting to allude to their endowment.

I have ridden my whole life and have had a few grape crunchers, but
nothing too serious. Usually these occur when I am getting left behind
over a fence (now that I can judge distances I am happy to report this
problem has ceased).

Regular brief-style underwear are fine for me. Remember the Seinfeld
"Shrinkage" episode? When it's cold they tend to disappear; conversely,
when it's hot they tend to expand.

Robby


Roger & Jean Hale

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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How in the world would a man be able to ride in a cup? Of course, being
of the female persuasion, I can't relate...


Phluxmn

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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UH, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! well at least none that i know.

Nancy Kaminski

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Feb 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/12/96
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>Yes, it was, though I've forgotten which one...I've seen the Rough Riders tape (on sale every year at the Fall Festival)...it's a s=
titch to watch, especially since it features all those familiar MN riders.

Nancy
>
>

Morgan James

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Feb 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/12/96
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Roger & Jean Hale <ha...@alaska.net> wrote:

>How in the world would a man be able to ride in a cup? Of course, being
>of the female persuasion, I can't relate...
>

er uh, its not so much riding IN a cup, its when the er uh, cup
"runneth over" that causes the problem...
As the old pirate exclaimed..."AYE, now There's the rub...."

Now, I probably shouldn't post the following cause I know Tom and
Terry are going to leap right in there claiming it can't be done
cause they can't do it, and I'll be damned if I'm going to test it
between a pickup and an oak tree (<g>),, but ladies, I'll tell you a
secret...

It is possible for some men to voluntarily draw the principal objects
of this discussion, up from their normal location into a more
protected spot. This solves two thirds of the problem admirably.

Morgan


Putputt106

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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What made you come up with that question? I am a male and I never really
had the need for it. Although it would just make things a whole lot worse
in the long run.


Edwards

Gail Ivey

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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>but ladies, I'll tell you a
>secret...

>It is possible for some men to voluntarily draw the principal
>objects
>of this discussion, up from their normal location into a more
>protected spot. This solves two thirds of the problem admirably.

And I thought it was my looks that did it! I feel better now.

G.

Cowboymi

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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I tried one once bareback riding rodeo, VERY bad idea, the cup hit the
riggin handle & the sides of the cup hit the bones underneath & I found it
almost impossible to walk or crawl afterwards. I don't know why you'd
think you might need one for normal ridin though?

Tony Jansen

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In article <4fp91s$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, putpu...@aol.com€ says...

>
>What made you come up with that question? I am a male and I never really
>had the need for it. Although it would just make things a whole lot worse
>in the long run.
No - and here's a follow up question: Do women riders wear bras?


Ronnie Taylor

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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In article <4fe1cn$25...@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> Robert Johnson jr,

ZXD...@prodigy.com writes:
>Subject: Re: Do men riders wear cups?
>From: Robert Johnson jr, ZXD...@prodigy.com
>Date: 8 Feb 1996 23:35:51 GMT

>I have ridden my whole life and have had a few grape crunchers, but
>nothing too serious. Usually these occur when I am getting left behind
>over a fence (now that I can judge distances I am happy to report this
>problem has ceased).
>

I agree with Robby. Having ridden dressage and jumping, my testimony is
that jumping *badly* is the most risky, or should I say *testi* area of
horseriding for men. For flatwork some dressage saddles are safer than
others, cut-back heads are less likely to cause a problemn in a tight
situation - such as a transition from extended to collected before a
corner. Passage transitions are another area, but a monkey grip can help
reduce the swell! <g>

>Regular brief-style underwear are fine for me. Remember the Seinfeld
>"Shrinkage" episode? When it's cold they tend to disappear; conversely,
>when it's hot they tend to expand.

It's important to remember that male rider's anatomies, riding styles and
preferences in underwear and many other things vary. Finally, I'd say
it's no more of a challenge for most men to ride a bike without getting
tangled up and bruised by it, than it is for them to ride a horse. It's a
question of desire and common sense. (i:e: Most men can't iron shirts
either!)

BTW I liked the Seinfeld episode you mentioned Robby!

Ronnie
eq...@geko.net.au

Elisathree

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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**Subject: Re: Do men riders wear cups?
**From: to...@execpc.com (Tony Jansen)
**Date: 20 Feb 1996 05:34:02 GMT
**Message-ID: <4gbmga$a...@daily-planet.execpc.com>

**In article <4fp91s$n...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, putpu...@aol.com
**says...


>
>What made you come up with that question? I am a male and I never really
>had the need for it. Although it would just make things a whole lot
worse
>in the long run.

**No - and here's a follow up question: Do women riders wear bras?


Tony, we don't sit on or even near our breasts, thank you! But some of us
have to wear extra support brassieres to keep from bouncing around,
particularly when trotting - ^^bounce^^bounce^^bounce bounce bounce -
William Tell said he'll make overtures, and would I PLEASE stop!
Elisa...@AOL.com (where the language police would yank this message off
the boards if I used the word "titty")

Truman Prevatt

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Feb 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/22/96
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In article <malnwski-220...@netcom5.netcom.com>,
maln...@netcom.com (Mel Malinowski) wrote:
>

The only place I can fantom wearing a cup is if I were catching a baseball
game to keep the ball at bay. But on a horse - heavens no. You would
probably end up raw.

Truman
______________________________________________________________________________

The race is not always to the swift, but to those that keep running.

Truman and Mystic "The Horse from HELL" Storm
and Danson "The Demon in Training" Flame

pre...@lds.loral.com - Sarasota, Florida
______________________________________________________________________________

CB Leek

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Feb 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/22/96
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Ronnie Taylor <eq...@geko.net.au> wrote:

<<<snipped stuff>>>


>It's important to remember that male rider's anatomies, riding styles and
>preferences in underwear and many other things vary. Finally, I'd say
>it's no more of a challenge for most men to ride a bike without getting
>tangled up and bruised by it, than it is for them to ride a horse. It's a
>question of desire and common sense. (i:e: Most men can't iron shirts
>either!)

Don't say that about ironing shirts around military men! A lot of
them won't let wives *near* their uniforms with an iron! (Hint,
girls: railroad tracks just *once* on their dress uniform...
heheheheh)

As for men riding: what did they they do *before* cups, anyway? When
Unk the Caveman first jumped on the first ridden horse, he wasn't
wearing one! <VBG>

Corinne, trying to be helpful...
Troika, 'Yeah, right.'
--
*** Conserve Energy: Laughter is easier than Anger!
*** cl...@terra.nlnet.nf.ca, Goose Bay, Labrador

Sandra8465

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Feb 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/23/96
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In article <312D9D...@goldsword.com>, Arnold & Jennifer Pomerance
<pome...@goldsword.com> writes:

>)Back in the 70's I was helping with a local show when a female rider
came
>into the ring wearing a halter top. She was well-endowed and watching
>her jiggle was so funny! The judge called the rider to the center of the

>ring and told her that while he admired her for being brave enough to
>come into the class dressed in a halter top, it was not appropriate
>clothing for a western class. The girl got mad and left the show. I
>don't think she ever came back.

Last year at the local county fair there is a class with in the draft
division where the horses are ridden bareback. They must walk, trot &
canter. While warming up these gentle giant in the arena before there was
a large breasted woman wearing a crochet bikini top and not only did she
jiggle--she flopped out! I don't think she went on to actually ride in
the class.

Arnold & Jennifer Pomerance

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Feb 23, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/23/96
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> the boards if I used the word "titty")Back in the 70's I was helping with a local show when a female rider came
into the ring wearing a halter top. She was well-endowed and watching
her jiggle was so funny! The judge called the rider to the center of the
ring and told her that while he admired her for being brave enough to
come into the class dressed in a halter top, it was not appropriate
clothing for a western class. The girl got mad and left the show. I
don't think she ever came back.

Jennifer
just a wannabe horse owner!
Oak Ridge, Tn.

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