Palomino Belgian?
Ocean of Nuance
Aren't they all light chestnut or something?
sharon
betsey
I have a friend who is really knowledgeable on belgians...and yes,
they do "come palomino"...but it's very very rare.
Hers is a chestnut, he's 31, former amish plow horse, and is the
cutest thing going. We LOVE barney!!
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>
>I have a friend who is really knowledgeable on belgians...and yes,
>they do "come palomino"...but it's very very rare.
They aren't really palominos... they are light chestnuts with white
manes and tails....
They just look like palominos <g>
Hunter
Cricket
"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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If I recall correctly, palaminos are chestnuts with one creme gene, so...
;>)
Cricket
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>If I recall correctly, palaminos are chestnuts with one creme gene, so...
>
> ;>)
>
>Cricket
It's more a question of the breed doesn't recognize Belgians as
Palominos...
Hunter
Ocean of Nuance
Isn't it a question of whether or not they have the cream gene? And
isn't that answer "no?"
sharon
Hunter Hampton
<lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
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>Isn't it a question of whether or not they have the cream gene? And
>isn't that answer "no?"
>
>sharon
I dunno, all that color stuff bores me.
Hunter
Cricket
"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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They've got no creme gene like Quarterhorses don't gait...
Don't ask don't tell.
Cricket
Ocean of Nuance
I see (said the blind man). :)
sharon
Melanie
"Cricket" <crick...@wmis.net> wrote in message
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> They've got no creme gene like Quarterhorses don't gait...
>
> Don't ask don't tell.
>
> Cricket
>
I figure if this guy found a registry that would accept him
http://tiffanyranch.com/stallions/fireanice.html, why not all the other
chestnuts with flaxen manes and tails? Imagine the influx of Halflingers,
Arabs, Belgians, etc. Although in my case, my little guy will need just a
touch of help to qualify ;-) Anyone up for a peroxide party? <jk>
Melanie
Princess Pony
Blonde Ambition
Ocean of Nuance
Although I agree that is likely a flaxen chestnut, it could be a
palomino with one or two sooty genes (if creme occurs in Arabs which it
may not).
sharon
Emily Brooks
http://www.equisearch.com/breeds/belgianprofile/ notes, among other things:
Early Belgians were mostly bay, with chestnut/sorrel and roan not far behind
in popularity. However, since the 1920's breeders in the United States have
bred for the sorrel and roan colors and nowadays these are by far the most
common colors of Belgian horses in the US. The most prized color is the
chestnut or sorrel with white mane and tail, white stripe on the face and
four white socks.
Emily
Ocean of Nuance
(snip)
> http://www.equisearch.com/breeds/belgianprofile/ notes, among other things:
>
> Early Belgians were mostly bay, with chestnut/sorrel and roan not far behind
> in popularity. However, since the 1920's breeders in the United States have
> bred for the sorrel and roan colors and nowadays these are by far the most
> common colors of Belgian horses in the US. The most prized color is the
> chestnut or sorrel with white mane and tail, white stripe on the face and
> four white socks.
From that web site...
"The head is comparatively small and refined, with an intelligent
expression."
LOL.
Cute animal though! Extreme chunky monkey. A cuddle bucket!
sharon
Emily Brooks
The picture is a Brabant, which the site mentions are much chunkier than the
American Belgian drafts are.
I went looking for this info because I knew, from somewhere, that the light
chestnut/flaxen points color preference was an American created genetic
bottleneck and not original to the breed.
Emily
jcdill
> I went looking for this info because I knew, from somewhere, that the light
> chestnut/flaxen points color preference was an American created genetic
> bottleneck and not original to the breed.
The same thing happened with Percherons in the US, which are almost
exclusively Black or Gray, with the occasional very rare chestnut or
roan. In their native France Percherons are frequently roan or bay or
chestnut as well as black and gray.
jc
Cricket
"jcdill" <jcdill...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Bay still pops up - my Percheron raising customers have had two, from
different parents.
Oddly, one also had over-eating disease, only case of that they (or I) have
ever seen, too.
Cricket
jcdill
The one in the photo doesn't look palomino to me, he looks like a pale
chestnut (in a badly exposed photo, over-exposed emphasizing paleness).
Have you seen a true (creme gene) palomino Belgian in person?
If they have true palominos, I'm surprised someone hasn't bred two of
them to produce a "white" Belgian stallion, guaranteed to produce
palomino when bred to a chestnut.
jc
Ocean of Nuance
> "Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> Emily Brooks wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>> http://www.equisearch.com/breeds/belgianprofile/ notes, among other
>>> things:
>>>
>>> Early Belgians were mostly bay, with chestnut/sorrel and roan not far
>>> behind in popularity. However, since the 1920's breeders in the United
>>> States have bred for the sorrel and roan colors and nowadays these are by
>>> far the most common colors of Belgian horses in the US. The most prized
>>> color is the chestnut or sorrel with white mane and tail, white stripe on
>>> the face and four white socks.
>> From that web site...
>>
>> "The head is comparatively small and refined, with an intelligent
>> expression."
>>
>> LOL.
>>
>> Cute animal though! Extreme chunky monkey. A cuddle bucket!
>>
>> sharon
>
> The picture is a Brabant, which the site mentions are much chunkier than the
> American Belgian drafts are.
I don't care what it is. I just know I would love it forever.
> I went looking for this info because I knew, from somewhere, that the light
> chestnut/flaxen points color preference was an American created genetic
> bottleneck and not original to the breed.
Okay so if you try to register a palomino "Belgian" with the Belgian
registry in the US, will it be summarily rejected?
sharon
Grizzly
> "Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7iu7aqF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Emily Brooks wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
"
>>
>>
>> Cute animal though! Extreme chunky monkey. A cuddle bucket!
>>
>> sharon
>
> The picture is a Brabant, which the site mentions are much chunkier than the
> American Belgian drafts are.
>
> I went looking for this info because I knew, from somewhere, that the light
> chestnut/flaxen points color preference was an American created genetic
> bottleneck and not original to the breed.
>
> Emily
So How did they get those light chestnuts with flaxen manes and tails?
I'd almost bet there was a large haflinger in the wood pile..
Jane Saranac
"Emily Brooks" <sun...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7iu7aqF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Emily Brooks wrote:
>>
>> (snip)
>>
>>> http://www.equisearch.com/breeds/belgianprofile/ notes, among other
>>> things:
>>>
>>> Early Belgians were mostly bay, with chestnut/sorrel and roan not far
>>> behind in popularity. However, since the 1920's breeders in the United
>>> States have bred for the sorrel and roan colors
Interesting to learn! And here is apparently a blue roan Belgian:
http://www.horseweb.com/horses/classifieds/ads/55275_2.htm
JC Dill
> Interesting to learn! And here is apparently a blue roan Belgian:
>
> http://www.horseweb.com/horses/classifieds/ads/55275_2.htm
Also blue roan and red roan (bay roan) Percherons:
http://blacklegacres.tripod.com/horse_farming.htm
http://www.ruralheritage.com/horse_paddock/percheron_roan.htm
(these are the same mares on both sites)
And chestnut Percherons:
http://www.raineyvalleyfarm.com/sale_barn/outside_sales.htm
Hunter Hampton
wrote:
>Jane Saranac wrote:
>
>> Interesting to learn! And here is apparently a blue roan Belgian:
>>
>> http://www.horseweb.com/horses/classifieds/ads/55275_2.htm
>
Here's a white Belgian.
http://ocala.craigslist.org/grd/1476016718.html
Hunter