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Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:54:08 PM11/7/09
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Welp, I don't think Pete would make that cut as he thinks trail riding
is bullsh*t.

On the other hand, they don't mention acceptance of long glitter
streamers or small throw rugs so he might stand a chance.

:)

sharon

Carl

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:58:10 AM11/8/09
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Moonlight, never.
Dancer, probably with work.
Belles, tomorrow morning.
Rain, you do it. I'll get the video camera.

Eileen Morgan
The Mare's Nest
http://www.themaresnest.com

betsey

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:13:15 AM11/8/09
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Macho wants to know, when do we sign up?

Mary McHugh

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:21:07 AM11/8/09
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Wilbur and Bubba (my first Arab), no problems pass with flying colors.
Khan would have probably passed too. Blaze, no way, not without more
desensitization. Khan would have probably passed but I can't think of
any of the other horses I've owned that would pass. Maybe my first, Big
Red, a QH.

On #7, Wilbur has stood on the side of the road while firetrucks and
ambulances flew past him with sirens screaming. He hardly noticed. He
stood, anxiously but stood, while a train went screaming by about 20'
from where we waited. Good thing though that #7 doesn't mention
anything about being startled by leaves and rocks. :) However, the
reaction was only being startled, not bad behavior.

Mary

Mary McHugh

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:23:13 AM11/8/09
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Mary McHugh wrote:
> Ocean of Nuance wrote:
>> http://texasequusearch.org/2009/01/horse-info/
>>
>> Welp, I don't think Pete would make that cut as he thinks trail riding
>> is bullsh*t.
>>
>> On the other hand, they don't mention acceptance of long glitter
>> streamers or small throw rugs so he might stand a chance.
>>
>> :)
>>
>> sharon
>
> > Khan would have probably passed too... Khan would have probably passed but I can't think of

Obviously, not enough coffee this morning.

Mary

Emily Brooks

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:44:10 AM11/8/09
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My Arab, Levi, sure.

The TB, Cid, eh. As long as there were no potted flowers around and no paint
stripes on the road, he might have been OK.

Spot - so long as there are no noises that he can't see the source of ...

Cash - like, Eileen, you do it, I'll get the camera.

Hoover, hmm. More desensitization and he'd be fine.

Emily


Dawn J-L

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Nov 8, 2009, 9:53:29 AM11/8/09
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On Nov 8, 5:58 am, Carl <c...@silverstein.com> wrote:

Legend could probably do it with a bit of work (close helicopters
would be new to him).

Robin is so darn unflappable that he could perhaps qualify once he's
more grown-up. He's a bit immature for such work at 3 though. ;-)

Prince thinks he could do it all on his own. No rider necessary. He
doesn't think it matters that he's 3, under 14H, or "untrained".
He's eager to please.

Amira possibly with some work--but only with a rider she trusts. (she
has calmly handled cement trucks, other horses bolting, aggressive
geese, chainsaws, and other "distractions" while on the trail)

--Dawn JL

Susan

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:24:31 AM11/8/09
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I was thinking, good thing #7 didn't mention llamas. :)

Tico would probably fail on #8 though - unless the trailer was big
enough to hold his very wide, er, ego. He hates to be cramped.

Believe me, if I owned my own trailer he would be on and off that thing
until it became second nature. Unfortunately, I have to grab the
infrequent training opportunities catch-as-catch-can...


Susan

JC Dill

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:29:21 AM11/8/09
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Carl wrote:

> Rain, you do it. I'll get the video camera.

Hah!

jc

Una

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:25:12 AM11/8/09
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Whitney has made the cut, including having a helicopter come in very
close on top of her. And having a parade band of drums and pipes
start up right in front of her. Of all the horses standing there
waiting to take their position in the parade, she was the only one
that didn't startle and squirt away from the sudden noise.

EquuSearch's horse requirements list is pretty basic; they keep a
roster of people they may call, no training required, so they don't
get into the finer points of a search and rescue horse actively
searching (looking, listening, scenting).

MSAR-Riders is *the* list: http://www.ibiblio.org/msar/msar-riders

Una

JJ

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:31:26 AM11/9/09
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...Comet, erm, NO. :-) JJ

Lisa Wiser

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:39:56 AM11/10/09
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The horse must be able to walk, trot, canter (lope) and stop and stand
under control from either direction in the arena

So -- gaited horses need not apply??

LisaW
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Dawn J-L

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:31:14 AM11/10/09
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Thanks for the good info. In spite of my tongue in cheek post, Equine
SAR is an incredibly critical tool, and the horses and riders that
actually participate are unsung heroes.

Dawn JL

Dr Corinne B Leek

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:20:02 AM11/10/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 23:31:14 -0800 (PST), Dawn J-L
<tjon...@together.net> wrote:

>On Nov 8, 10:25�am, u...@att.net (Una) wrote:

>> MSAR-Riders is *the* list: �http://www.ibiblio.org/msar/msar-riders

>Thanks for the good info. In spite of my tongue in cheek post, Equine


>SAR is an incredibly critical tool, and the horses and riders that
>actually participate are unsung heroes.

Jorene Downs is still working "the bunker" for mounted SAR in
California.

Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew....

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Sue Leopold

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:50:42 AM11/10/09
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Cruiser probably could. The mounting could be a problem for we
short people though if allowed by the rules, I bet he would carry
a short stepladder along with the other gear. ;-)

Mind you, he has not actually done many of the things on the
list, but Cruiser's attitude when confronted with new things is
"OK, how do I do *this*?"

He would probably think the whole thing was cool and interesting.

Sue
svle...@earthlink.net

John Hasler

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:01:54 PM11/10/09
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Sue writes:
> Mind you, he has not actually done many of the things on the
> list...

The Old Snout did everything on the list. Of course, he also bucked,
but he stopped that once he and Jean-Paul had taught me to ride.
--
John Hasler Boarding, Lessons, Training
jo...@dancinghorsehill.com Hay, Jumps, Cavallox
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI USA

Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:43:37 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:50:42 -0400, svle...@earthlink.net (Sue
Leopold) wrote:

I wouldn't make the cut,

"The horse should stand quietly while tied or being held, mounted or
dismounted from either side."

I seriously doubt I could mount on the wrong side <g>

Hunter

Jill

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:23:34 PM11/10/09
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Have you had any more riding in through the rest of your trip this year,
Hunter?
you sounded so buzzed earlier, I was looking forward to more equine tall
tales from various parts.


--
regards
Jill Bowis

www.kintaline.co.uk


Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:31:14 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:23:34 -0000, " Jill"
<ne...@NOSPAMkintaline.co.uk> wrote:

>
>Have you had any more riding in through the rest of your trip this year,
>Hunter?>

Sadly ... no.....

>you sounded so buzzed earlier, I was looking forward to more equine tall
>tales from various parts.>

If only.

I'm still settling in here at the farm, and my daughter just left
after a lovely visit.

I'm actually thinking about getting Robbie's saddle out and throwing a
leg over him... even just to meander around in the pasture since I
can't take him away without bailey.

I may get my friend with all the Gypsy Vanners to come riding.... she
has loads of them, so we could take hers. I've never even sat on one
of the fat little things.

Hunter

Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:08:06 PM11/10/09
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Mounting on both sides is something my trainer does and so I have
learned to do it. I aim for 50-50, left-right. It takes some
concentration still to do it on the off side.

sharon

Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:40:24 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:08:06 -0500, Ocean of Nuance
<lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

>Mounting on both sides is something my trainer does and so I have
>learned to do it. I aim for 50-50, left-right. It takes some
>concentration still to do it on the off side.
>
>sharon

I've ever tried it in my life. I've dismounted on both sides, but
that's easy.

Mounting, I can't imagine when I try to picture doing it.

Hunter

Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 10, 2009, 4:44:40 PM11/10/09
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It is so deceptively hard for some reason. I have been doing it for 2
years and I still have to really concentrate. I would say it has only
gotten 20% easier than when I first tried. And when I first tried I
didn't think I could do it. :0

sharon

Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 5:31:47 PM11/10/09
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Ah, the joy of not having a trainer that makes you mount on the wrong
side <g>

Hunter

Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:04:29 PM11/10/09
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Yeah I'm not complaining but I would single this out as one thing for
which I really don't see the point. I have Passier? Stubben? stirrup
leathers that are guaranteed not to stretch. Before I got these I kept
switching the old ones from side to side when I cleaned them. Now, what
with mounting from both sides, I would never have had to switch them.
So there's that.

But yeah... mounting from the off side is like teaching a horse to
bow... almost completely useless in learning how to actually ride. :)

Plus I don't think horse insurance policies should cover knee injuries
for folks who do this. Raises everyone's rates for no good reason. :)

sharon

Emily Brooks

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:18:42 PM11/10/09
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"Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:40 -0500, Ocean of Nuance
>> <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is so deceptively hard for some reason. I have been doing it for 2
>>> years and I still have to really concentrate. I would say it has only
>>> gotten 20% easier than when I first tried. And when I first tried I
>>> didn't think I could do it. :0
>>
>> Ah, the joy of not having a trainer that makes you mount on the wrong
>> side <g>
>
> Yeah I'm not complaining but I would single this out as one thing for
> which I really don't see the point. I have Passier? Stubben? stirrup
> leathers that are guaranteed not to stretch. Before I got these I kept
> switching the old ones from side to side when I cleaned them. Now, what
> with mounting from both sides, I would never have had to switch them. So
> there's that.
>
> sharon

If you are mounting from the ground, it would spread the horse's back strain
around too.

I used to mount from the off side from a block and from the near side from
the ground. These days, as my horses get taller, horse-by-horse, mounting
from the ground doesn't look feasible without a ditch or a significant slope
handy.

Emily


Una

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:16:28 PM11/10/09
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Learning to mounting on the "other" side feels a lot like learning
to mount from scratch. If people have so much trouble with this,
imagine how hard it can be for some horses.

Una

Hunter Hampton

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:26:04 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:42 -0500, "Emily Brooks"
<sun...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I used to mount from the off side from a block and from the near side from
>the ground. These days, as my horses get taller, horse-by-horse, mounting
>from the ground doesn't look feasible without a ditch or a significant slope
>handy.

LOL, Emily, my horses are the same height.... and I'm still looking
for a fence, a ditch or a mounting block. I think it's me, not them
<g>

Hunter

Ocean of Nuance

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:29:25 PM11/10/09
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Emily Brooks wrote:
> "Ocean of Nuance" <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:7lu9rvF...@mid.individual.net...
>> Hunter Hampton wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:44:40 -0500, Ocean of Nuance
>>> <lizRMOVz...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is so deceptively hard for some reason. I have been doing it for 2
>>>> years and I still have to really concentrate. I would say it has only
>>>> gotten 20% easier than when I first tried. And when I first tried I
>>>> didn't think I could do it. :0
>>> Ah, the joy of not having a trainer that makes you mount on the wrong
>>> side <g>
>> Yeah I'm not complaining but I would single this out as one thing for
>> which I really don't see the point. I have Passier? Stubben? stirrup
>> leathers that are guaranteed not to stretch. Before I got these I kept
>> switching the old ones from side to side when I cleaned them. Now, what
>> with mounting from both sides, I would never have had to switch them. So
>> there's that.
>>
>> sharon
>
> If you are mounting from the ground, it would spread the horse's back strain
> around too.

I NEVER mount from the ground for the reason you state. NEVER. Why ask
for trouble? Pete is well over a year with zero back pain and I'm not
doing a damn thing differently.

The horse has forgotten how to brace his back in my opinion. His walk
is a prowl. That is a testament to my trainer... walk is the barometer
of training. It is quite shocking the transformation in the walk.

> I used to mount from the off side from a block and from the near side from
> the ground. These days, as my horses get taller, horse-by-horse, mounting
> from the ground doesn't look feasible without a ditch or a significant slope
> handy.

That's pretty good. I am not sure I can get up from the ground. I mean
I probably could but I'm not trying.

shaorn

John Hasler

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Nov 10, 2009, 6:37:57 PM11/10/09
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In my experience it is easier for the horses than the people.

Emily Brooks

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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> LOL, Emily, my horses are the same height.... and I'm still looking
> for a fence, a ditch or a mounting block. I think it's me, not them
> <g>
>
> Hunter

Oh, I share that issue!

Emily


Dr Corinne B Leek

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:15:45 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:18:42 -0500, "Emily Brooks"
<sun...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>I used to mount from the off side from a block and from the near side from
>the ground. These days, as my horses get taller, horse-by-horse, mounting
>from the ground doesn't look feasible without a ditch or a significant slope
>handy.

Even with the Iceys, short as they are, Olga *insists* that everyone
mounts using a mounting block (step stool). She says it's easier on
their backs.
Works for me and my rotten knee.
At Jen's, I have never even *considered* not using a mounting block. I
always used one for my own equines, back in the day.
Mounting blocks (of whatever configuration) only make sense to me!
LOL!
Always use whatever makes life easier. Like, duh! <VBG>

Corinne & Crazy Canuck Crew...

Cricket

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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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My daughter's last horse was kinda young and dumb, and he had standing still
to mount issues. I remember standing there talking to her while she got up
on the left and down on the right. And up on the right, and down on the
left. For about ten minutes straight.

The horse went through "I ain't gonna" to "OMG what's she doing??" to "Well
this is annoying" to "Fine. Whatever".

He's pretty much given up on any effort to move while mounted since. Too
much trouble. He just sighs and looks put-upon.

Cricket

Cricket

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:27:25 PM11/10/09
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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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I used to do it all the time - it was one of my rules that my horses would
stand to be mounted from either side. However, lately my hip has been
giving me too much grief to mount from the off side. It's straightened up a
little recently, so I may try it again.

Cricket

Cricket

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"John Hasler" <jha...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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All the horse has to do is stand still and brace itself a little. A people
has to co-ordinate way more movements and balance.

Even though I used to do it a lot, I'm still a clutz from the off side. My
kid could bounce up from either way and make it look easy, but I never got
that facile at it.

Cricket


Susan

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:07:36 PM11/10/09
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Just before my left hip replacement, the orthopedic surgeon requested
that I try to practice mounting from the off-side. He knew I'd be riding
sooner than he was comfortable with (he'd had horsewomen as patients
before), and he figured if I mounted from the right I'd at least be
giving the left side a chance to heal and not be stressed - at least not
right away.

I told him I used a mounting block, but his theory was that there was
always the chance one wouldn't be around.

It felt really strange. I did it a few times, but went back to near side
mounting pretty quickly.

Susan


Sue Leopold

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:17:46 PM11/10/09
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Better for their backs but also better for the saddle tree.
Mounting from the ground can seriously twist a saddle
tree over time (that is, dressage, close contact, AP and
cross-country trees, dunno about western saddles though)
My saddler friend was a fanatic about that - he called
the tree the "bones" of the saddle and said w/o a skeleton
in good shape the rest of the saddle went for naught.

And yeah, it does make life easier!

Sue
svle...@earthlink.net

Jane Saranac

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:21:18 PM11/10/09
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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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I blew out my left knee, probably in part from torque in mounting over a
period of years, so after my surgery my trainer was on me to mount on the
off side. I did it for a while and then stopped because it occurred to me
that I could ruin the right knee the same way and I'd rather have at least
one good knee <g>.


Hunter Hampton

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:13:02 AM11/11/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 23:21:18 -0500, "Jane Saranac"
<jsala...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I blew out my left knee, probably in part from torque in mounting over a
>period of years, so after my surgery my trainer was on me to mount on the
>off side. I did it for a while and then stopped because it occurred to me
>that I could ruin the right knee the same way and I'd rather have at least
>one good knee <g>.

LOL! Exactly. Maybe we need to train them to lie down to mount (c:

Hunter

Jane Saranac

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Nov 11, 2009, 9:28:00 AM11/11/09
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"Hunter Hampton" <airstrea...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Yep! That gets my vote! <G>.


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