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Adam

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Feb 2, 2003, 5:23:43 PM2/2/03
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yeaa... and... alot of things damage your brain...

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> Just One Night of Ecstasy May Damage Brain
> Thu Sep 26, 7:07 PM ET
>
> By Adam Marcus
> HealthScoutNews Reporter
>
> THURSDAY, Sept. 26 (HealthScoutNews) -- In a finding that gives the
> lie to the "try anything once" mantra, even a night's worth of ecstasy
> use may seriously harm the brain and put users at risk of damage that
> mimics Parkinson's disease ( news - web sites).
>
> So says a new study, which found that just a few doses of the party
> drug taken over a brief span of hours can destroy parts of crucial
> brain cells.
>
> Researchers have known since the late 1980s that ecstasy -- a chemical
> called 3,4-methylene-dioxymethamphetamine, or MDMA -- scrambles brain
> cells that respond to the messenger molecule serotonin. Serotonin is
> central to mood and behavior.
>
> But the new study, reported in tomorrow's issue of Science, suggests
> that the drug -- which is both a stimulant and a hallucinogen -- can
> also damage another relay system, this one involving dopamine.
> Dopamine is a key chemical behind many brain functions, from cognition
> to movement. Parkinson's disease results from a die-off of neurons
> that produce the molecule, while parkinsonism occurs when the
> chemical's activity is interfered with.
>
> Ecstasy "could damage brain dopamine cells," said George Ricaurte, a
> neurologist at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore and lead author
> of the study. "We know that it happens in monkeys and baboons. We
> don't know if it happens in human beings as yet."
>
> Ricaurte and his colleagues gave five squirrel monkeys three doses of
> MDMA over a nine-hour period, simulating the experience of a user at
> an all-night ecstasy party.
>
> As expected, when the researchers examined the brains of these
> monkeys, they saw severe damage to serotonin neurons. But they also
> saw that 60 to 80 percent of the dopamine neuron endings in an area
> called the striatum had been destroyed, damage that persisted for at
> least six weeks.
>
> They confirmed their results by repeating the experiment in five
> baboons. In both cases, one of the five primates died shortly after
> being given the drug. Precisely why the animals died isn't clear,
> Ricaurte said. But he said several ecstasy users have died of
> inexplicably high body temperatures.
>
> Ricaurte's group gave several monkeys a drug, AMPT, that gradually
> suppresses dopamine much the way aging does. They then looked to see
> if the combination of AMPT and ecstasy-induced brain damage impaired
> motor function. It did, suggesting that as dopamine wanes, the injury
> might lead to symptoms of parkinsonism.
>
> Ecstasy seemed to spare the bodies of neurons, affecting only their
> endings. Since neurons can sprout new endings, it's possible that the
> damage from the drug might be temporary, Ricaurte said.
>
> Repeated use of ecstasy has been linked to problems with sleep, mood
> and anxiety, as well as elevated impulsivity and attention and memory
> problems. Studies have found that these effects may last for up to two
> years after the drug is stopped.
>
> Hospital emergency room visits related to ecstasy use have skyrocketed
> from 253 nationwide in 1994 to 4,511 in 2000, according to the
> National Institute on Drug Abuse.
>
> "There's no question this is an extremely dangerous drug, and what
> this study shows is that even the equivalent of one night's use can be
> dangerous," said Alan Leshner, chief executive officer of the American
> Association for the Advancement of Science ( news - web sites), which
> publishes Science. Leshner is also former head of the National
> Institute on Drug Abuse.
>
> Leshner said studies of the toxic effects of ecstasy in humans and
> animals have been consistent, so there's no reason to think that the
> latest work wouldn't apply to people who take the drug.
>


Sla#s

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Feb 3, 2003, 5:19:22 PM2/3/03
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"Adam" <rr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> yeaa... and... alot of things damage your brain...
<SNIP>

> > Just One Night of Ecstasy May Damage Brain
> > Thu Sep 26, 7:07 PM ET
> >
> > By Adam Marcus
> > HealthScoutNews Reporter
> >
> > THURSDAY, Sept. 26 (HealthScoutNews) -- In a finding that gives the
> > lie to the "try anything once" mantra, even a night's worth of ecstasy
> > use may seriously harm the brain and put users at risk of damage that
> > mimics Parkinson's disease ( news - web sites).

Myth:
Ecstasy research 'flawed'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1935369.stm

This myth grew from the widespread publicity given to some brain scans
showing a loss of serotonin transporter sites in the brains of some persons
who had taken Ecstasy. It is established beyond any doubt that the most
serious damage to the brain results from the excessive consumption of
alcohol.
http://www.drugscope.org.uk/DS%20Media%20Project/media_brain.htm

It's like a stuck record. They think if a lie is repeated often enough it
will become the truth!

Slatts


9Iron

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Feb 3, 2003, 4:41:46 PM2/3/03
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Oh my God!
That's so scarry. Thank God I did it more than once! Whew, I fell bad for
those guys!


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Amy

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Feb 4, 2003, 12:22:31 PM2/4/03
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> > > THURSDAY, Sept. 26 (HealthScoutNews) -- In a finding that gives the
> > > lie to the "try anything once" mantra, even a night's worth of
> > > ecstasy use may seriously harm the brain and put users at risk of
> > > damage that mimics Parkinson's disease ( news - web sites).

But, you know, it is my brain. Why shouldn't I be allowed to do whatever I
want with my brain???

> > > Leshner said studies of the toxic effects of ecstasy in humans and
> > > animals have been consistent, so there's no reason to think that the
> > > latest work wouldn't apply to people who take the drug.

If these government scientists what to find out what E does to you then why
don't they let me (and my friends) roll for awhile and then they can ask us
what is going on. If I could roll everyday for the rest of my life then I
would donate my brain! These animals they test on aren't giving their
permission to take so-called "dangerous drugs" and then have their brains
removed. Stop testing on animals and start testing on me!!!

Amy

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Victor

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Feb 4, 2003, 12:46:39 PM2/4/03
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You guys need to get a life and take more drugs and get laid.

Amy

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Feb 4, 2003, 1:16:16 PM2/4/03
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victor...@sacramento.heald.edu (Victor) wrote:
> You guys need to get a life and take more drugs and get laid.

If everyone took E then it would so much easier to get laid!!!

Z

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Feb 4, 2003, 6:02:52 PM2/4/03
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In alt.law-enforcement * <8732459...@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Just One Night of Ecstasy May Damage Brain

Right, and one joint turns your into a reefer addict.

Jimmy

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Feb 5, 2003, 11:58:40 AM2/5/03
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Thats what i'm saying. Hey amy, we should get together sometime and
smoke some joints, and get laid.

Victor

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Feb 5, 2003, 12:04:33 PM2/5/03
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On a more serious note. We know some drugs can kill and will harm you,
if not now later on. Like Amy said, we're adults and will do what we
want. You only live once, make it memorable.

Zoe Nuvell

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Feb 5, 2003, 12:44:37 PM2/5/03
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Z <zarl...@conan.ids.net> wrote in message news:<v40hks2...@corp.supernews.com>...

> In alt.law-enforcement * <8732459...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> : Just One Night of Ecstasy May Damage Brain
>
> Right, and one joint turns your into a reefer addict.


You can sneeze and cause brain damage goober. Brain cell die every day
just like the cells in the rest of your body. Eating foods can kill
brain cells. The neat thing about it is that they grow back for
healthy people. Who ever wrote "Just One Night of Ecstasy May Damage
Brain", must be some nerdy loser with no life other that worrying
about other people having more fun then themselves!

Zoe Nuvell

Amy

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Feb 5, 2003, 1:52:46 PM2/5/03
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jimmy...@sacramento.heald.edu (Jimmy) wrote:
> Thats what i'm saying. Hey amy, we should get together sometime and
> smoke some joints, and get laid.

:-)

shug

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Feb 5, 2003, 2:13:24 PM2/5/03
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In message <cabffbf3.0302...@posting.google.com>, Victor
<victor...@sacramento.heald.edu> writes

>On a more serious note. We know some drugs can kill and will harm you,

The legal ones.

The illegal ones tend to be much safer. Or they would be if they weren't
sold via the black market.

--
Drugs and Accident Risk in Fatally-Injured Drivers
Olaf H. Drummer, Ph.D.
Victorian Institute of Forensic Pathology, Department of Forensic Medicine,
Monash University, 57-83 Kavanagh Street, South Melbourne 3205, Australia

"It was of some interest that cannabis tended to show a negative effect on
relative risk when other drug groups showed an increase. This phenomenon
has also been seen elsewhere [Terhune et al, 1992; Williams et al, 1985]."

http://www.ukcia.org/lib/driving3.htm
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Shug
Join the Legalise Cannabis Alliance here
http://www.lca-uk.org/memebershippayform.doc

Eroc

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Feb 6, 2003, 12:13:31 PM2/6/03
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laym...@hotmail.com (Amy) wrote in message news:<20030205135246.301$p...@newsreader.com>...

> jimmy...@sacramento.heald.edu (Jimmy) wrote:
> > Thats what i'm saying. Hey amy, we should get together sometime and
> > smoke some joints, and get laid.
>
> :-)
>
> Amy

Victo and Jimmy ah and amy too. All just drugies on a druge web sit.

shug

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Feb 6, 2003, 1:39:31 PM2/6/03
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In message <31eb2754.03020...@posting.google.com>, Eroc
<eric.de...@sacramento.heald.edu> writes

> All just drugies on a druge web sit.

What sort of school is sacramento.heald.edu ?
Don't you have to be able to write English there?


--
LaGuardia Commission Report, 1944

[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical
deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed
no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug.

Amy

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Feb 6, 2003, 3:09:50 PM2/6/03
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...and??? So what?

Victor

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Feb 7, 2003, 11:16:32 AM2/7/03
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It's not like that's all we do. We have jobs and go to school. We're
just trying to have a little fun in life.

Jimmy

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Feb 7, 2003, 11:27:40 AM2/7/03
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Hell Yeah Amy. Drugs don't kill people, people kill people. So you
want hook me up amy?

Amy

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Feb 7, 2003, 3:29:52 PM2/7/03
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victor...@sacramento.heald.edu (Victor) wrote:
> It's not like that's all we do. We have jobs and go to school. We're
> just trying to have a little fun in life.

Maybe my brain IS totally fried; maybe someone can explain this too me:
WHY is it anyone else's business WHAT we do to our brains and bodies? Why
are people so upset that we want to have a little fun? Either join in or
fuck off!

Amy

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Feb 7, 2003, 3:34:44 PM2/7/03
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jimmy...@sacramento.heald.edu (Jimmy) wrote:
> Hell Yeah Amy. Drugs don't kill people, people kill people. So you
> want hook me up amy?

I have a friend who says "guns don't kill people, I do". But drugs DON'T
kill people. If you do drugs you take a chance. But YOU take the chance,
yourself. If I want to take a chance then you should have the right to
take that chance. I don't think people should get high (or roll or tweek
or whatever) and drive, or operate heavy machinery, or get pregnant, or
anything that is going to hurt other people. But if I want to roll at a
party or a rave or just at my own house, WHAT DIFFERENCE COULD IT POSSIBLY
MAKE TO ANYONE ELSE????

Z

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Feb 7, 2003, 6:37:15 PM2/7/03
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In alt.law-enforcement Victor <victor...@sacramento.heald.edu> wrote:
: On a more serious note. We know some drugs can kill and will harm you,

: if not now later on. Like Amy said, we're adults and will do what we
: want. You only live once, make it memorable.

Lies like this about Ecstasy cause more harm than good. When know
bullshit when they see it - the stories about pot leading to harder
drugs and X causing palsy are among them.

Then, when they read something TRUE, like articles on the dangers of
huffing VOCs, they figure it's just more War on Drugs BS.

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