How to Dip LSD Blotters
Cornholio
do a lot of them in order to start feeling even a little buzz. Freqently
people feel nothing and think LSD stories are exaggerations. Microdots seem
a lot more reliable. When you do LSD you ought to remember it as such.
There is always talk around here as to how to make LSD, but I have not seen
too much discussion on what concentration of solution you need to dip
blotters in.
Anyone ever micrometer a blotter in a dry and wet position to calculate its
thickness and how much it swells?
I made some assumptions and did some calculations and found what you want
is around a 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in.
A blotter is around 1/4" square and around 0.01mm thick, that is a volume
of .4 mm cubed or .4 ml. If I assume the paper will swell 6.25% and accepts
as much liquid, that is one sixteenth the volume or .025mL. If I want 500
mcg in that volume, that is 500 mcg/.025 ml or 20 mg/ml.
For a small lab, in low/safe light, dissolve 10 grams of LSD tartrate in
500 mL of water
in a 600 mL beaker and dip 12x12 blotter sheets into that until they are
saturated, and then let them dry flat on wax paper in the dark.
How does this compare to what anyone else is doing?
I suggest a brand of blotters that has a sufficient quantity of LSD in it,
emblaze my shirt covered face upon them, and call them Cornholios.
Eric Katt
substrate unit would accept and multiply the number of units by volume.
If you can just acquire 10 grams of crystal but you can't figure out how
to lay paper out - somethings awry.
In alt.drugs.chemistry Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote:
: My experience is that blotter acid is always too weak, and that you have to
Geezus Kryst
>If you can just acquire 10 grams of crystal but you can't figure out how
>to lay paper out - somethings awry.
Now that's a good fuckin point. Usually people who sells grams of crystal
don't sell them to people who can't lay it, am I right? I sure as hell
don't know where to get crystal.
--
-Geezus Kryst
"Now, little by little I could begin to enjoy the unprecedented colors and
plays of shapes that persisted behind my closed eyes. Kaleidoscopic,
fantastic images surged in on me, alternating, variegated, opening and then
closing themselves in circles and spirals, exploding in colored fountains,
rearranging and hybridizing themselves in constant flux."
Cornholio
>substrate unit would accept and multiply the number of units by volume.
>
You could do that by micrometering a blotter when it is wet and when it is
dry, the difference in thickness multiplied times the surface area is the
volume one substrate unit can accept.
I don't have a micrometer, so for my calculation I assumed
the blotter swells 6.25% in only the thickness direction
the blotter is is 0.01mm to thick to start
the blotter is .25inches wide and 0.25incheslong having a surface
area of .25x.25insq
>If you can just acquire 10 grams of crystal but you can't figure out how
>to lay paper out - somethings awry.
Funny, but since lots of blotters are weak, that would seem to be the case
for a lot of people dipping blotters,
awry in a manger all covered with hay
Cornholio
>don't sell them to people who can't lay it, am I right?
someone doesn't know how to lay it, they are always ultra weak if not blank
another way you could figure out how much water a blotter soaks up is by
taking 10ml and see how many blotters it takes to soak it up
10 divided by the number of blotters is then the volume for one blotter
you want 500 mcg in a blotter, so 0.5 divided by the volume one blotter
soaks up is the concentration of solution (mg/ml) you want to dip blotters
in
if you make the same assumptions that I made before ( a 1/4 inch square
blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
up 10ml
therefore 0.5/0.025= 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in
if you had one gram of crystal, you would dissolve that in 50ml, in a
greater than 50ml beaker, such as a 250ml beaker, then dip 12x12 sheets of
blotters in there and let them dry on wax paper
you might want to use a pair of tweezers to dip and soak the blotters with
so you don't get a lot of quidling on your fingers and/or into your blood,
unless you want to take a trip while you are dipping
The financials of the situation work out as follows
1 gram divided by 0.0005 grams/hit = 2000 hits
if you sell singles for $2.5 each you gross $5000 per gram
if you sell 12x12 sheets for $180 you gross $2500 per gram
if you sell each 1000 of the hits for $625 you gross $1250 per gram
to me that would make a 1 gram of crystal worth $1250, I could hustle the
12x12 sheets and double my money, might be worth $2500 to someone willing
to sell singles, might be worth more to a scammer making lame weak hits
I may have been a little generous on the pricing, considering the dose
would be real good, might get $5 a hit on the bottom end of things, I would
have to try one or a couple. Microdots usually go for $2.5 around here, 3-4
of the get you to the point where you start to know what a trip is.
I would pay $10 for what I consider a real trip.
>I sure as hell don't know where to get crystal.
No rocket science involved assuming you've taken first year organic
chemistry
a couple extractions, a couple reactions, one chromotagraphic seperation.
The equipment and chemicals neccesary to start up a basement LSD lab, not
cutting any corners is $5000, it would take a 5gm batch to recover your
investment.
Bob Wallace
>There is always talk around here as to how to make LSD, but I have not
>seen too much discussion on what concentration of solution you need
>to dip blotters in...
I would think for really quality blotter, instead of dipping,
you'd use a 10-gang calibrated micropipette. Each press
of the plunger will deposit an exact volume on 10 squares
at once.
I don't know how much these run, but American Science
Surplus had a single-point calibrated micropipette for
about $100.
- Bob Wallace (just my opinion); bo...@promind.com
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Cornholio
>you'd use a 10-gang calibrated micropipette. Each press
>of the plunger will deposit an exact volume on 10 squares
>at once.
you still need to know how much each blotter soaks up in order to know what
concentration solution to put in the pipette and how much to drop onto them
in order to get the right dose
problems with dropping solution onto them is that the liquid will not
always spread even across every blotter, it tends to stay in a circle
because of surface tension against the the air, whereas the 10x10 gang of
blotters is square, the liquid will not reaches the edges or all of the
blotters, you would have to spread it around, if you drop too much liquid
on the sheet it will run off the blotters and be wasted, dropping from the
top, you have to wait until the solution permeates the whole way through to
the bottom, if it does, if you use a calibrated syringe you could use a
very concentrated solution and dose each singular blotter with one drop, a
very repitition endeavor when you may have a couple thousand doses
dipping has none of these problems, you just keep them dipped until they
are saturated then let excess solution run back into the beaker or tray,
lay on wax paper or aluminum foil in the dark to dry. I would even wrap the
10 or 12 gang or whatever unit size you are going to hustle in aluminum
foil to keep it dark.
Cornholio
>blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
>then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
>up 10ml
>
>therefore 0.5/0.025= 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in
I made the same mistake here
use 0.1mm thickness then multiply 0.25x0.25x25.4x25.4x0.1 to get mm cubed
of water then divide that by 1000 to get cm cubed,cc, or ml, then multiply
by the percent water it aborbs 0.0625 and get 0.00025 mL and therfore a
2000 mg/ml solution
Bob Wallace
>>I would think for really quality blotter, instead of dipping,
>>you'd use a 10-gang calibrated micropipette. Each press
>>of the plunger will deposit an exact volume on 10 squares
>>at once.
>
>you still need to know how much each blotter soaks up in order to know what
>concentration solution to put in the pipette and how much to drop onto them
>in order to get the right dose
You just use a tiny amount of fluid. You don't have to soak the whole
thing...
>problems with dropping solution onto them is that the liquid will not
>always spread even across every blotter, it tends to stay in a circle
>because of surface tension against the the air, whereas the 10x10 gang of
>blotters is square, the liquid will not reaches the edges or all of the
>blotters, you would have to spread it around, if you drop too much liquid
>on the sheet it will run off the blotters and be wasted, dropping from the
>top, you have to wait until the solution permeates the whole way through to
>the bottom, if it does,
But none of the above matters, if you do the following:
>if you use a calibrated syringe you could use a
>very concentrated solution and dose each singular blotter with one drop, a
>very repitition endeavor when you may have a couple thousand doses
That's why the 10-gang calibrated miropipette version is better.
You push a button 10 times per sheet, instead of dipping the sheet;
it's not that much extra time. In return, you are assured every square
has exactly the same, consistant dose.
>dipping has none of these problems, you just keep them dipped until they
>are saturated then let excess solution run back into the beaker or tray,
>lay on wax paper or aluminum foil in the dark to dry.
Excess solution? How do you control the dose if some unknown
amount is not absorbed?
> would even wrap the 10 or 12 gang or whatever unit size you are going to
>hustle in aluminum foil to keep it dark.
You need a light source without UV; I would think a kind of dim red
bulb would be fine, which you'd need anyway.
Mike Crowley
> ...dissolve 10 grams of LSD tartrate in
> 500 mL of water
Assuming 1 drop of water = 1 mL this works out to approx. 20,000 mcg per drop.
Is it just me or does anyone else think that this is overdoing things a little?
-Mike Crowley
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Cornholio
>> 500 mL of water
>
>Assuming 1 drop of water = 1 mL this works out to approx. 20,000 mcg per drop.
>Is it just me or does anyone else think that this is overdoing things a little?
a ml is a milli-liter, or 1/1000th of a liter. It is the amount of liquid
that would fill a cube that is 1cmx1cmx1cm or a cubic centimeter
the volume of a drop depends on the instrument used to drop it, it is a
couple orders of magnitude smaller than a milliliter. I think we used to
estimate that a drop out of a standard eyedropper was around a .01 ml,
making 100 drops per milliliter.
If you look at the other parts of the thread I revised my assumptions and
came out with 20000mg/ml as the solution you want. Therefore you would put
10 grams of LSD tartrate in
5 mL of water to do dipping.
I just ventured an assumption about how much liquid the blotter would
absorb. I estimated the blotter was 0.01mm thick and would swell 6.25%
I could go about this estimate another way and say each blotter will absorb
at most 1 drop, therefore you want 500 mcg in each drop, each drop is 0.01
ml, so you want a 500mcg/0.01ml solution to dip them in, which comes out to
be 50 mg/ml. Therefore you would put 10 grams of LSD tartrate in 200 ml of
water.
I'm not all that familiar with micropipettes, but the smallest graduations
available on a pipette is 0.01 ml and the smallest micropipettes I see
available carry 0.005 ml solution
so if you decide to dose each one with a dropper instead of dipping them
in the case of the pipette you would want 500mcg in a 0.01 ml drop, so you
would use a 50 mg/ml solution
in the case of the micropipette you would want 500mcg in a 0.005ml drop, so
you would use a 100mg/ml solution
in the case of an eyedropper you would want 500 mcg in a .01 ml drop, so
you would use a 50 mg/ml solution
someone suggested using alcoholl instead of water, isopropyl will dry
quicker than water, whether you dip them or drop it on them.
Cornholio
>amount is not absorbed?
you control the dosage by controlling the concentration they are dipped in
you calculate the concentration with which to dip them in by knowing the
volume of liquid each blotter will absorb and the amount of dose you want,
500mcg
desired dose divided by the amount the blotter will absorb equals the
concetration with which to dip them in
excess, is not absorbed and runs back into the beaker or tray to be absorb
by other blotters
the key fact needed, that no has posted or obtained yet, is how much a
blotter absorbs
the people that make the blotters ought to have a rough idea of this
might also be nice to know how long it takes for them to become saturated
with liquid, that way you know how long to dip them, my experience is that
blotters are a rough grade low finish paper and saturate in less than a
minute.
>> would even wrap the 10 or 12 gang or whatever unit size you are going to
>>hustle in aluminum foil to keep it dark.
>
>You need a light source without UV; I would think a kind of dim red
>bulb would be fine, which you'd need anyway.
its not the ultraviolet component of light that decomposes LSD, its light
that falls within the visible spectrum
>You just use a tiny amount of fluid. You don't have to soak the whole
>thing...
>But none of the above matters, if you do the following:
>
>>if you use a calibrated syringe you could use a
>>very concentrated solution and dose each singular blotter with one drop, a
>>very repitition endeavor when you may have a couple thousand doses
>
>That's why the 10-gang calibrated miropipette version is better.
>You push a button 10 times per sheet, instead of dipping the sheet;
>it's not that much extra time. In return, you are assured every square
>
>has exactly the same, consistant dose.
I won't argue that dosing each one with a drop isn't an option, just that
it is repititive, as long as 500mcg is inside the volume of the drop, then
you would get the right dose on the blotter,,as long as the drop was not
too big and some of the dose rolled off. Since LSD is sensitive to light
you would have to do this dosing inn the dark, or lose some potency.
Cornholio
>>
>>> I don't see what the problem here is. One places 300 uGm of
>>>"material" on a square on the blotter, it soaks it up. One then
>>>ingests same, and believe you me, one soaks all of it in...
>>>
>>
>>you want to use 500mcg, not 300
>
>25 uGm is enough to illicit a response.
>
you can get "a response" off of caffiene too
>Typical street dosages *were* 150-300 uGm.
>This is why I chose the
>upper end of the old norm. Maybe it takes 500 uGm of your weak shit
>to get off.
>
my point is that blotters are always weak and that people need to take a
look at the assumptions and methods surrounding delivery of said LSD to
said blotter in order to get what is considered a psychedelic dose, 500mcg
or more
I can't count the number of times I have aten a couple botters, and then
had to increase it to 4,5,6,7,8,9,10+ until I tripped, if I was lucky,
microdots have alwasy seemed more reliable to me.
>>mcg is a weight, liquids are measured and distrubuted by volume
>
>
>Pure LSD in liquid form is of a concentration that can be directly
>metered. If someone drops 200 uGm on yer tongue, that's what you get
>in dose. If you put 300 onto blotter, all of it remains. A plotter pen
>meters ink onto paper very accurately, this is why I suggested a
>plotter. Two quarter inch lines should do it.
You can't open the ink well in plotter pens I have seen, they are prefilled
and disposable.
You could think about putting the trip in the ink that is used to print
them.
or you might think about an ink stamp
>>
>>you want to know how much LSD in mcg is in the liquid you are delivering,
>>i.e. the concentration
>
>Ya, I know nothing about weight, measures, and concentrations...
>
just going by what you said
>>
>>You will typically make the tartaric acid salt of LSD at the end of your
>>synthesis for stability. This is what Sandoz sold in low dose tablet and
>>low dose liquid form.
>>
>>The dosage referred to as a psychedelic dose, 500 mcg, is 500 mcg of LSD
>>tartrate crystal.
>>
>>In order to know how much water to drop on, or dip in, for a blotter you
>>need to know how how much water a blotter absorbs.
>>
>>
>>> Trust me
>>
>>and get a weak blotter?
>
>Whatever...
weak blotters aren't a whatever matter, if you spend $10 expecting to trip,
and/or you buy a dose for your girlfriend/firends and you all dose, and
noone trips, its not only a waste of money, its a bummer scene daddio
>>
>>
>>>300 micrograms of a liquid very near that of water fits on
>>>a square centimeter piece of blotter paper... thick or thin...
>>>
>>
>>a blotter is more like 1/4 inch square, a 2x2 piece is 4 blotters and is a
>>1/2 inch square or around a centimeter, if you put the dose over 4
>>blotters, that means someone has to take 4 blotters to get the dose, which
>>means each 1 blotter is weak
>
>There are a LOT of different dicing schemas for blotter paper, only
>one of which is 1/4" square.
>
I like 1/4
>>
>>300 mcg of a dilute water solution, with a density of around 1 g/ml, has a
>>volume of 0.0003 ml, if the drop is an exact sphere it would have a
>>diameter of double of the cubed root of three quarters of the volume or WAY
>>LESS THAN THE SURFACE AREA OF THE BLOTTER, since blotter is designed to
>>saok things up you can probably assume a blotter will soak up something
>>whose surface area is far less than its own
>>
>>so you could theoretically pick a small drop size and put the dose of LSD
>>you wanted, 500mcg, into it, and drop them on each blotter, but problem is
>>delivery of such a small drop, even if you used a syringe, you are most
>>likely to get a larger drop size than you want
>
>I guess you just ain't crazy Mr. Drop Maker Dude then are ya....?
>
no duh
>>
>>dipping into a beaker or tray of a known concentration is the most
>>practical way
>>
>
> For you.
>
for anyone that considers the timing of having the whole operation out in
the open. dipping is much quicker than dropping each one indivudually. If
you make up your concentration in alcohol, they will dry quick, and you can
put them away and/or distribute.
Cop: What are you doing sir
Zippy: dropping acid on blotters man
>>> We used to put it on windmill cookies years ago.
>>>An item they are / were very unlikely to "look" at.
>>> The buzz does not change either... you don't suddenly feel like
>>>putting on wooden shoes. :-]
>>>
>>
>>I have done some good trips, and if you get a good dose, you won't walk
>>away thinking the hippie generation was stupid, if you didn't feel anything
>>you got a weak or blank hit
>>
>>
> I didn't say a word about not "feeling anything" I said the dose
>was place onto cookies, and that it does change the effect the drug
>has. Are you stoned or something?
>
>>> When you make this "solution" up, and then dip your sheets. What do
>>>you do with the "solution" that has remained after the "dipping"
>>>process?
>>
>>you dip blotters until there is no liquid left
>
>Pretty funny when we metered the doses individually, the product was
>ready for use at that moment.
>
>Your method requires some kind of "curing" step... Not in the cards
>for me.
>
>We knew exactly what was placed onto each square.
>
>You method even requires horizontal cure... wouldn't want all that
>acid concentrate running down to the bottom of the sheet as it dries.
>
if you use isopropyl alcohol instead of water for your dipping solution, it
will dry almost immediately
>essentially, I think you guessed wrong.
I say dipping is quicker and safer.
>>>
>>> This would seem to be a wasteful method. There are ways of metering
>>>precise amounts onto each blotter segment.
>>
>>you still need to use the right concentration, and take into account the
>>absorptivity of the blotter, even if you could find such an ideal dropper.
>>Too tedious, the LSD will weaken due to light exposure during the timely
>>process, once again resulting in weak blotters.
>
> It was not, and is not "too tedious" by any measure. You just gotta
>have Karma.
>
maybe for a couple hundred, but a gram makes 2000 hits, once you start
thinking about dealing with a couple grams at a time, you will decide to
dip or buy a microdot pill press
Mike Crowley
> the volume of a drop depends on the instrument used to drop it
It's a long time since I studied such things but I (think I) remember being taught
that the volume of a drop of liquid is dependent on its surface tension and bears no
relation to the instrument used to produce the drop. Was my professor wrong or is
my feeble old brain finally crumbling?
_ Lillith_
Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote in message
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> My experience is that blotter acid is always too weak, and that you have to
> do a lot of them in order to start feeling even a little buzz. Freqently
> people feel nothing and think LSD stories are exaggerations. Microdots seem
> a lot more reliable. When you do LSD you ought to remember it as such.
>
> There is always talk around here as to how to make LSD, but I have not seen
> too much discussion on what concentration of solution you need to dip
> blotters in.
>
> Anyone ever micrometer a blotter in a dry and wet position to calculate its
> thickness and how much it swells?
>
> I made some assumptions and did some calculations and found what you want
> is around a 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in.
>
> A blotter is around 1/4" square and around 0.01mm thick, that is a volume
> of .4 mm cubed or .4 ml. If I assume the paper will swell 6.25% and accepts
> as much liquid, that is one sixteenth the volume or .025mL. If I want 500
> mcg in that volume, that is 500 mcg/.025 ml or 20 mg/ml.
>
> For a small lab, in low/safe light, dissolve 10 grams of LSD tartrate in
> 500 mL of water
10 grams? 100,000 big hits at 100mics each?
My recolection is that LSD did not disolve very well in H20.
> in a 600 mL beaker and dip 12x12 blotter sheets into that until they are
> saturated, and then let them dry flat on wax paper in the dark.
>
> How does this compare to what anyone else is doing?
Seems extreme. And contrary to standard practice.
_ Lillith_
Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote in message
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> >Now that's a good fuckin point. Usually people who sells grams of crystal
> >don't sell them to people who can't lay it, am I right?
>
> someone doesn't know how to lay it, they are always ultra weak if not blank
>
> another way you could figure out how much water a blotter soaks up is by
> taking 10ml and see how many blotters it takes to soak it up
>
> 10 divided by the number of blotters is then the volume for one blotter
>
> you want 500 mcg in a blotter, so 0.5 divided by the volume one blotter
> soaks up is the concentration of solution (mg/ml) you want to dip blotters
> in
500 mics per dose would be about 5x the strength of the best Orange Sunshine
ever to come out of Owsley's labs ... seems extreme.
>
> if you make the same assumptions that I made before ( a 1/4 inch square
> blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
> then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
> up 10ml
What basis do you have for such "assumptions" ?
>
> therefore 0.5/0.025= 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in
>
> if you had one gram of crystal, you would dissolve that in 50ml, in a
> greater than 50ml beaker, such as a 250ml beaker, then dip 12x12 sheets of
> blotters in there and let them dry on wax paper
>
> you might want to use a pair of tweezers to dip and soak the blotters with
> so you don't get a lot of quidling on your fingers and/or into your blood,
> unless you want to take a trip while you are dipping
>
> The financials of the situation work out as follows
>
> 1 gram divided by 0.0005 grams/hit = 2000 hits
1 gram makes 10,000 generous doses.
>
> if you sell singles for $2.5 each you gross $5000 per gram
If you sold singles for $10 in Spain you'd have $100,000 per gram.
Reality is 100 lots still go for about $80 - $100 in San Francisco.
> if you sell 12x12 sheets for $180 you gross $2500 per gram
> if you sell each 1000 of the hits for $625 you gross $1250 per gram
>
> to me that would make a 1 gram of crystal worth $1250, I could hustle the
> 12x12 sheets and double my money, might be worth $2500 to someone willing
> to sell singles, might be worth more to a scammer making lame weak hits
Except that grams run about $6k ...
>
> I may have been a little generous on the pricing, considering the dose
> would be real good, might get $5 a hit on the bottom end of things, I would
> have to try one or a couple. Microdots usually go for $2.5 around here, 3-4
> of the get you to the point where you start to know what a trip is.
Are you tripping right now ....?
>
> I would pay $10 for what I consider a real trip.
Some would pay more, all things considered.
>
> >I sure as hell don't know where to get crystal.
We can all sleep better now ...
>
> No rocket science involved assuming you've taken first year organic
> chemistry
Try a Math course next, then a Criminal Law course.
>
> a couple extractions, a couple reactions, one chromotagraphic seperation.
>
> The equipment and chemicals neccesary to start up a basement LSD lab, not
> cutting any corners is $5000, it would take a 5gm batch to recover your
> investment.
Good luck.
_ Lillith_
Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote in message
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> >if you make the same assumptions that I made before ( a 1/4 inch square
> >blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
> >then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
> >up 10ml
> >
> >therefore 0.5/0.025= 20 mg/ml solution to dip them in
>
> I made the same mistake here
>
> use 0.1mm thickness then multiply 0.25x0.25x25.4x25.4x0.1 to get mm cubed
> of water then divide that by 1000 to get cm cubed,cc, or ml, then multiply
> by the percent water it aborbs 0.0625 and get 0.00025 mL and therfore a
> 2000 mg/ml solution
Are you completely insane?
2 grams per ml?
20,000 hits into one ml of solution?
$12,000 dissolved into a cubic centimeter ...?
Cornholio
>ever to come out of Owsley's labs ... seems extreme.
>
FACT is that blotters are often too weak
500 mcg is considred a psychedelic dose
if the average weak blotter is 50mcg and you have to take 10 to trip, then
that equals 500
seems to fit together
>
>>
>> if you make the same assumptions that I made before ( a 1/4 inch square
>> blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
>> then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
>> up 10ml
>
>What basis do you have for such "assumptions" ?
>
The intent was to generate discussion
>> 1 gram divided by 0.0005 grams/hit = 2000 hits
>
>1 gram makes 10,000 generous doses.
>
you mean weak hits
1 gram divided by 500 mcg = 2000 hits
>
>>
>> if you sell singles for $2.5 each you gross $5000 per gram
>> if you sell 12x12 sheets for $180 you gross $2500 per gram
>> if you sell each 1000 of the hits for $625 you gross $1250 per gram
>
>If you sold singles for $10 in Spain you'd have $100,000 per gram.
>
if they were 500 mcg per dose, some people wouldn't mind paying $10
>> that makes a gram worth $1250 to me
>Except that grams run about $6k ...
>
people don't usually sell grams anyway
I think you are just trying to be argumentative
>>
>> I may have been a little generous on the pricing, considering the dose
>> would be real good, might get $5 a hit on the bottom end of things, I would
>> have to try one or a couple. Microdots usually go for $2.5 around here, 3-4
>> of the get you to the point where you start to know what a trip is.
>
>Are you tripping right now ....?
>
I believe people ought to dose each morning at breakfast
>>
>> I would pay $10 for what I consider a real trip.
>
>Some would pay more, all things considered.
>
some people do a lot of things
>>
>> >I sure as hell don't know where to get crystal.
>
>We can all sleep better now ...
>
you were replying to someone elses comment
>>
>> No rocket science involved assuming you've taken first year organic
>> chemistry
>
>Try a Math course next, then a Criminal Law course.
>
stop bringing people down with your depressing law remarks
>>
>> a couple extractions, a couple reactions, one chromotagraphic seperation.
>>
>> The equipment and chemicals neccesary to start up a basement LSD lab, not
>> cutting any corners is $5000, it would take a 5gm batch to recover your
>> investment.
>
>Good luck.
>
and shalom to you
_ Lillith_
Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote in message
news:112edd0bd0eca7fc...@anonymous.poster...
> >500 mics per dose would be about 5x the strength of the best Orange Sunshine
> >ever to come out of Owsley's labs ... seems extreme.
> >
>
> FACT is that blotters are often too weak
FACT: You have zero idea what the actual dosage is of these "weak" blotters.
>
> 500 mcg is considred a psychedelic dose
Says who? It's about 5x more than necessary for a very good trip.
>
> if the average weak blotter is 50mcg
IF. You haven't established that the "average weak blotter" is 50mcg,
You are simply guessing without any empirical basis, as you seem prone to do.
> and you have to take 10 to trip, then
> that equals 500
Yes, you do have remedial math down pat.
>
> seems to fit together
Sure, like a fish and a bicycle.
Cornholio
I went about the math a different way
if you assume a blotter wil abosrb a drop off of an eye dropper, and you
use the standard assumption that a drop is 0.01 ml (i.e. 100 drops per
milliliter)
then you would want the appropriate dose, 500 mcg, inside of one drop, 0.01
ml so that works out ot be 0.5/0.01=50mg/ml
so you would place a gram in 20 ml, 5 grams in 100ml, and so forth
use isopropyl alchohol as the solvent, instead of water, it will dry faster
use a beaker or petri dish to do your dipping in
dip the 10x10 sheets of blotter with a tweezer and let dry on wax paper or
aluminum foil
if I was making thses I would double up the concentration to 100mg/ml just
to make sure each hit was good, I think a blotter tends to absorb less than
whole drop
>20,000 hits into one ml of solution?
a gram is 2000 hits, 1/0.0005=2000
so two grams is 4000 hits not 10000
>
>$12,000 dissolved into a cubic centimeter ...?
if you assume one hit is worth $2.5
that makes 100 worth $125
and one thousand worth $625
everyone doubles their investment
that makes a gram worth around $1250-$2500
and two grams worth $2500-$5000
you keep assuming a gram is worth $6000, you would have to make a lot of
weak hits out of it, and nigger a lot of people, in order to profit,
that's my whole point, blotters are too often weak
Cornholio
>
no, you want 500mcg (mics) per hit, so you would get 20,000 hits out of 10
grams
>My recolection is that LSD did not disolve very well in H20.
>
the tartaric acid salt of LSD is soluable
isopropyl alcohol might be a better choice of solvent, it will dry quicker
>> How does this compare to what anyone else is doing?
>
>Seems extreme.
a psychedelic dose is much higher than a therapuetic dose
> And contrary to standard practice.
standard blotters are too weak, it takes 10 to have what I call a trip
I suggest we standardize on blotters that are 500mcg each
Jerri Blavittł
Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote in message
news:b3620502f5683658...@anonymous.poster...
> >2 grams per ml?
>
>
> I went about the math a different way
>
> if you assume a blotter wil abosrb a drop off of an eye dropper, and you
> use the standard assumption that a drop is 0.01 ml (i.e. 100 drops per
> milliliter)
Your assumptions are incorrect.
>
> then you would want the appropriate dose, 500 mcg, inside of one drop, 0.01
> ml so that works out ot be 0.5/0.01=50mg/ml
>
> so you would place a gram in 20 ml,
A gram is unlikely to dissolve completely in only 20ml, this is not how its done.
> 5 grams in 100ml, and so forth
> use isopropyl alchohol as the solvent, instead of water, it will dry faster
>
> use a beaker or petri dish to do your dipping in
A beaker with only 20ml in it?
>
> dip the 10x10 sheets of blotter with a tweezer and let dry on wax paper or
> aluminum foil
>
> if I was making thses I would double up the concentration to 100mg/ml just
> to make sure each hit was good, I think a blotter tends to absorb less than
> whole drop
You "think" that? Do you ever base your assumptions or thinking on reality?
>
> >20,000 hits into one ml of solution?
>
> a gram is 2000 hits, 1/0.0005=2000
> so two grams is 4000 hits not 10000
Pay attention, 1 gram = 10,000 very strong hits @ 100 mcg each.
>
>
> >
> >$12,000 dissolved into a cubic centimeter ...?
>
> if you assume one hit is worth $2.5
> that makes 100 worth $125
> and one thousand worth $625
You assume incorrectly way too often, you are dangerous.
A gram runs about $6,000 us.
>
> everyone doubles their investment
Except you.
>
> that makes a gram worth around $1250-$2500
> and two grams worth $2500-$5000
One more time Sparky. A gram will cost you about $6,000 us.
Now go ahead and dissolve the whole thing into 20ml and dip your
sheets.
>
> you keep assuming a gram is worth $6000,
It's not an assumption, unlike your preposterous statements.
Go ahead and find someone who can score a gram of crystal L
and see what the price truly is, report back here if it's less than
$6,000.
> you would have to make a lot of
> weak hits out of it,
You didn't do very well in school did you? A gram will make
10,000 very strong <by today's standard> hits.
> and nigger a lot of people, in order to profit,
> that's my whole point, blotters are too often weak
Blotter may be too weak, but the rest of your speculation and
assumption is still wrong.
Jerri Blavittł
> >10 grams? 100,000 big hits at 100mics each?
> >
>
> no, you want 500mcg (mics) per hit, so you would get 20,000 hits out of 10
> grams
And 10 grams will cost you about $50,000 with a discount.
>
> >My recolection is that LSD did not disolve very well in H20.
> >
>
> the tartaric acid salt of LSD is soluable
>
> isopropyl alcohol might be a better choice of solvent, it will dry quicker
And it is what almost everyone uses.
>
> >> How does this compare to what anyone else is doing?
> >
> >Seems extreme.
>
> a psychedelic dose is much higher than a therapuetic dose
Take 100 mcg and I'll guarantee you it'll be hyperdelic.
>
> > And contrary to standard practice.
>
> standard blotters are too weak, it takes 10 to have what I call a trip
You still have not established what the dose is on your weak blotters.
Have you had them tested and assayed?
>
> I suggest we standardize on blotters that are 500mcg each
Suggest all you want, put your $$ where your mouth is and buy you own grams
and dip 500mcg doses, that'll cost you $3 each after your time, $$ and effort.
Don't forget the 10 year mandatory minimum prison sentence in case you get popped.
Does it still seem worth it?
Cornholio
anti-LSD and anti-drug proliferation stance.
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_ Lillith_
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Case Number: 005
Grand Court of Cornholio
His Honor Cornholio presiding
All Bow
You May be Seated.
The Court sees fit to publicy warn all current and future participants in
the alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.drugs.chemistry,rec.drugs.psychedelics and
rec.drugs.chemistry usenet newsgroups that the online entity _ Lillith_ is
either a narc, a member of D.A.R.E. or a neophyte that acts like a
know-it-all and that all further communications from him should be read
with such consideration. Should he change his online identity, he should be
easily identifiable by his opinions.
All Bow.
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Cornholio
>
>FACT: You have zero idea what the actual dosage is of these "weak" blotters.
>
don't have to know, never said I did, just have to know they are always
weak, and there is a systematic error that needs to be resolved by
education and the search for knowledge
>>
>> 500 mcg is considred a psychedelic dose
>
>Says who? It's about 5x more than necessary for a very good trip.
>
100 mcg is still what they considered a "therapeutic dose" for psychiatric
applications
most people agree a PSYCHEDELIC DOSE is around 500 mcg
if you want a "buzz" then take 100 mcg, it won't be much more than smoking
weed
if you want a PSYCHEDELIC EXPERIENCE, take 500 mcg
>>
>> if the average weak blotter is 50mcg
>
>IF. You haven't established that the "average weak blotter" is 50mcg,
>You are simply guessing without any empirical basis, as you seem prone to do.
>
there was some data at one time that placed it around there, take a look at
the LSD FAQ on lycaeum or erowid
Cornholio
>> use the standard assumption that a drop is 0.01 ml (i.e. 100 drops per
>> milliliter)
>> ml so that works out ot be 0.5/0.01=50mg/ml
>Your assumptions are incorrect.
I didn't see your counter-assumptions
its a common first-year chemistry lab assumption that 1 eye dropper is
0.01ml, or that there are 100 drops in a ml
its not to big of an assumption to assume a blotter absorbs 1 eye dropper
drop, they are around the same size
either state your claim, or shut up, the purpose of the thread is to
discuss the issue, not just to insult people who contribute things that
don't mesh with your preconcieved or preferred notions
>> a gram is 2000 hits, 1/0.0005=2000
>> so two grams is 4000 hits not 10000
>
>Pay attention, 1 gram = 10,000 very strong hits @ 100 mcg each.
if you want a PSYCHEDELIC DOSE, you want 500 mcg, that makes 2000 hits per
gram
100 mcg is not a psychedelic dose, its in the ball park of what was
considered a "therapeutic dose" for making people comfortable in talking to
their psychiatrists. It was the equivalent of 4 delysid pills, or one
ampoule when LSD was a prescription drug. The whole idea of PSYCHEDELIC
EXPEREINCE came about therough experimentation with doses ABOVE the
therapeutic dose. In otherwords, to get high off a drug, you usually have
to take more than the doctor prescribes.
my original claim is that blotters are always weak, most people agree
if you want a "buzz" smoke marijuana
a trip should be a PSYCHEDELIC EXPERIENCE, that means around 500mcg
I can't stand listening to lamers talk about weak trips that had off of
weak hits
Cornholio
it is good, you are a drok
Lilywhite Lilith (Banks/Collins/Gabriel/Hackett/Rutherford)
He stands by a middle-aged woman, with a very pale skin who is quietly
talking to herself. He discovers she is blind and asking for a guide.
"What's the use of a guide if you got nowhere to go" asks Rael. "I've got
somewhere to go," she replies "if you take me through the noise, I'll show
you. I'm a creature of the caves and I follow the way the breezes blow."
He leads her across the room and they leave the crowd, who dismiss their
departure as certain to fail.
The chamber was in confusion - all the voices shouting loud.
I could only just hear, a voice quite near say, "Please help me
through the crowd"
'Said if I helped her thru' she could help me too, but I could
see that she was wholly blind.
But from her pale face and her pale skin, a moonlight shined.
Lilywhite Lilith,
She gonna take you thru' the tunnel of night
Lilywhite Lilith,
She gonna lead you right.
When through the door, the woman leads Rael down the tunnel. The light of
the chamber soon fades and despite her confident step Rael often stumbles
in the darkness.
After a long walk they arrive in what Rael judges to be a big round cave,
and she speaks a second time asking him to sit down. It feels like a cold
stone throne.
"Rael, sit here. They will come for you soon. Don't be afraid." And failing
to explain any more she walks off. He faces his fear once again.
When I'd led her through the people, the angry noise began to grow.
She said "Let me feel the way the breezes blow, and I'll show
you where to go."
So I followed her into a big round cave, she said "They're
coming for you, now don't be afraid."
Then she sat me down on a cold stone throne, carved in jade.
Lilywhite Lilith,
She gonna take you thru' the tunnel of night.
Lilywhite Lilith,
She gonna lead you right.
A tunnel is lit up to the left of him, and he begins to shake. As it grows
brighter, he hears a non-metallic whirring sound. The light is getting
painfully bright, reflecting as white off the walls until his vision is
lost in a sort of snow blindness.
She leaves me in my darkness,
I have to face, face my fear,
And the darkness closes in on me,
I can hear a whirring sound growing near.
I can see the corner of the tunnel,
Lit up by whatever's coming here.
Two golden globes float into the room
And a blaze of white light fills the air.
Eric Katt
<deletia>
: if you assume one hit is worth $2.5
: that makes 100 worth $125
: and one thousand worth $625
: everyone doubles their investment
: that makes a gram worth around $1250-$2500
: and two grams worth $2500-$5000
: you keep assuming a gram is worth $6000, you would have to make a lot of
: weak hits out of it, and nigger a lot of people, in order to profit,
: that's my whole point, blotters are too often weak
Please tell us when you've learned to synthesize LSD in high purity or
find someone dain bramaged enough to sell you crystal. There are few
people ever given the opportunity to purchase crystal.
A serious question though - what's your educational level??? Just
wondering about your math skills.
E
Eric Katt
:>ever to come out of Owsley's labs ... seems extreme.
: FACT is that blotters are often too weak
That is not in dispute.
: 500 mcg is considred a psychedelic dose
Your opinion.
: if the average weak blotter is 50mcg and you have to take 10 to trip, then
: that equals 500
Have you performed a proper quantitative lab assay of blotter in your area
to verify that all folks who lay sheets lay them at 50 ucg? Are you
certain that everyone likes 500 ucg for their dose???
: seems to fit together
If YOU don't like the strength of the blotter you're getting you have two
choices:
1 - eat more of it
2 - when you're laying out your sheets lay them out stronger
Given that it's pretty likely that you're unable to purchase crystal - I
think you're left with option 1... though I think this holds true for most
folks on this ng.
Bleat all you want about how it's a FACT that all blotters are weak, not
everyone likes 500 mcg, however, FYI. You've also obviously never slang
much dose wholesale nor (yet) done time in prison.
:>> if you make the same assumptions that I made before ( a 1/4 inch square
:>> blotter is 0.01 mm thich, and it swells 6.25% in thickness when dipped)
:>> then each blotter soaks up 0.025 ml and it would take 400 blotters to soak
:>> up 10ml
:>
:>What basis do you have for such "assumptions" ?
: The intent was to generate discussion
Discussions good but
:>> 1 gram divided by 0.0005 grams/hit = 2000 hits
:>1 gram makes 10,000 generous doses.
: you mean weak hits
NO, he/she means standard strength doses of the 80's Dead scene
during which you were likely shatting your diapers.
You come up with some verifiable proof that these so-called weak hits you
eat are 50 ucg. So what if you like 10 of them.
: 1 gram divided by 500 mcg = 2000 hits
Good, next week you'll start on algebra.
:>> if you sell singles for $2.5 each you gross $5000 per gram
You seriously think you're going to slang grams worth of paper as singles
and not expect to be looking at some prison time???
:>> if you sell 12x12 sheets for $180 you gross $2500 per gram
:>> if you sell each 1000 of the hits for $625 you gross $1250 per gram
:>If you sold singles for $10 in Spain you'd have $100,000 per gram.
: if they were 500 mcg per dose, some people wouldn't mind paying $10
:>> that makes a gram worth $1250 to me
:>Except that grams run about $6k ...
: people don't usually sell grams anyway
Not to you it seems. Have you ever, hypothetically speaking, ever had the
opportunity to just plunk down for 10 grams of crystal??? How much
crystal have you seen in one place???
: I think you are just trying to be argumentative
No, he's being factual and realistic.
:>> I may have been a little generous on the pricing, considering the dose
:>> would be real good, might get $5 a hit on the bottom end of things, I would
:>> have to try one or a couple. Microdots usually go for $2.5 around here, 3-4
:>> of the get you to the point where you start to know what a trip is.
:>Are you tripping right now ....?
: I believe people ought to dose each morning at breakfast
I believe people should finish high school and take a couple years of
organic chemistry and finish remedial mathematics before they start
spouting off about such matters.
:>> I would pay $10 for what I consider a real trip.
:>Some would pay more, all things considered.
: some people do a lot of things
:>> >I sure as hell don't know where to get crystal.
:>We can all sleep better now ...
: you were replying to someone elses comment
:>> No rocket science involved assuming you've taken first year organic
:>> chemistry
:>Try a Math course next, then a Criminal Law course.
: stop bringing people down with your depressing law remarks
Wait until you're looking at prison, dork. Ever had the cops point a gun
at your fucking head???
:>> a couple extractions, a couple reactions, one chromotagraphic seperation.
:>> The equipment and chemicals neccesary to start up a basement LSD lab, not
:>> cutting any corners is $5000, it would take a 5gm batch to recover your
:>> investment.
:>Good luck.
: and shalom to you
93
Eric
Eric Katt
Are you related to Jeremy McGrath by any chance???
E
In alt.drugs.chemistry Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote:
: The Grand Court of Cornholio hereby accuses _ Lillith_ of having an
Cornholio
anti-LSD and anti-drug proliferation stance.
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The Great and Grand Cornholio
vs
Jerri Blavitt
----------------------------------------------
Case Number: 006
Grand Court of Cornholio
His Honor Cornholio presiding
All Bow
You May be Seated.
The Court sees fit to publicy warn all current and future participants in
the alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.drugs.chemistry,rec.drugs.psychedelics and
rec.drugs.chemistry usenet newsgroups that the online entity Jerri Blavitt
Cornholio
>>if you want a PSYCHEDELIC DOSE, you want 500 mcg, that makes 2000 hits per
>>gram
>
>Tell us please where you got this number beside one day claiming to
>have done that much.
its based on years of enjoyment
besides the LSD FAQ on Erowid agrees with me
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq2.shtml
" A psycholitic dose, generally 75 or 100 - or at most 200 - micrograms,
causes
a rush of thoughts, a lot of free association, some visualization
(hallucination) and abreaction (memories so vivid that one seems to relive
the experience). A psychedelic dose, around 500 micrograms, produces total
but temporary breakdown of usual ways of perceiving self and world and
(usually) some form of "peak experience" or mystic transcendence of ego.
as does the LSD FAQ on Lycaeum
http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/Tryptamines/Lysergic/FAQ_LSD_NEW1.html
perhaps you would like to quote one of your narc sources that says
something different, and/or preaches the dangers of recreational drugs,
which reminds me of another Black Sabbath song
ALRIGHT NOW!
Won't you listen?
When I first met you, didn't realize
I can't forget you, for your surprise
you introduced me, to my mind
And left me wanting, you and your kind
I love you, Oh you know it
My life was empty, forever on a down
Until you took me, showed me around
My life is free now, my life is clear
I love you sweet leaf, though you can't hear
Come on now, try it out
Straight people don't know, what you're about
They put you down and shut you out
you gave to me a new belief
and soon the world will love you sweet leaf
Cornholio
I know how to whip up a batch, here's a method
DO THIS ALL UNDER UV LIGHT ONLY, LSD IS LIGHT SENSITIVE
STEP 1: convert ergot alkaloid (LSA, lysergic acid) into its hyrazide
you can obtain the alkaloid from extraction of morning
glory seeds or baby woodrose
seeds, cultivation of ergot fungus, or acquisition of
actual lysergic acid (ergotamine)
1) in a roundbottom flask mix 1 volume powdered ergot alkaloid and 2
volumes
anhydrous hydrazine
2) add 2 volumes distilled water and boil for 15 minutes
3) cool in the refrigerator to get isolysergic acid hydrazide
STEP 2: convert the hyrazide to its azide
and convert the azide into the acid
use an ice bath, chill reagants for this step
1) dissolve 3 g lysergic acid hydrazide rapidly in 100 ml 0.1N HCl
2) 100 ml 0.1 N NaNO2 is added after 2-3 minutes vigorous stirring.
3) 130 ml more HCl is added dropwise
4) stir again
5) After 5 minutes neutralize to ph7 with NaHCO3
6) extract with 300 parts ethyl-ether
7) remove aqueous solution
8) dissolve gummy substance (isolysergic acid azide)
in ether
9) dry with freshly calcinated pottasium carbonate
10) add 3g diethylamine per 300 ml ether extract
allow to stand in dark 24 hours with repeated shaking
11) evaporate in vaccuum ---> isolysergic acid diethylamide
12) add 30 parts distilled water, filter
STEP 3: convert isomer
1) allow the solution to stand for several hours in 4N alcoholic
pottassium hydroxide
2) Neutralise with dilute HCl
3) make slightly basic with NH4OH
4) extract with chloroform
5) Evaporate in vacuo
this converts it into equal parts of isomers iso and d-lysergic acid
diethylamide
STEP 4: seperate isomers using chromatic adsorption
1) dissolve mixture in chloroform containing 0.5% ethanol, 1g/50ml
2) pass through column containing aluminum oxide (60cm longx4cm radius)
and
chromatogram developed with the same solvent.
soak the column then drain
3) The dark impurities pass rapidly into filtrate. -> discard
4) Then follows a bright zone (blue appearance under UV light) containing
d-lysergic
acid diethylamide from this 1.0-1.3 parts will be
obtained.
5) a further third slower passing portion contains the isomer (0.8-1.2
parts) strip the column
with MeOH to quicken third pass, convert isomer again as in
STEP 3, then repass
through column
STEP 5: make the acid salt
1) dissolve one equivalent of the base with one equivalent d-tartaric acid
in a small
quantity of methanol, the neutral tartrate crystallizes
out.
Cornholio
only a republican (Reagan) would sign laws like this
has no basis in public opinion
has no basis in fact
only suceeds in growing the lucrative prison economy, in which, the
families and friends of said republicans work
no wonder no one pays any attention to these laws
Cornholio
and anti-drug proliferation stance.
-----------------------------------------------
The Great and Grand Cornholio
vs
Eric Katt
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Case Number: 007
Grand Court of Cornholio
His Honor Cornholio presiding
All Bow
You May be Seated.
The Court sees fit to publicy warn all current and future participants in
the alt.drugs.psychedelics,alt.drugs.chemistry,rec.drugs.psychedelics and
rec.drugs.chemistry usenet newsgroups that the online entity Eric Katt is
Cornholio
>
>Your opinion.
Its based on personal experience, it coincides with data on these two web
sources that are commonly referred to as FAQs on LSD.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq2.shtml
http://www.lycaeum.org/drugs/Tryptamines/Lysergic/FAQ_LSD_NEW1.html
"A psycholitic dose, generally 75 or 100 - or at most 200 - micrograms,
causes a rush of thoughts, a lot of free association, some visualization
(hallucination) and abreaction (memories so vivid that one seems to relive
the experience). A psychedelic dose, around 500 micrograms, produces total
but temporary breakdown of usual ways of perceiving self and world and
(usually) some form of "peak experience" or mystic transcendence of ego. "
>: if the average weak blotter is 50mcg and you have to take 10 to trip, then
>: that equals 500
>
>Have you performed a proper quantitative lab assay of blotter in your area
>to verify that all folks who lay sheets lay them at 50 ucg?
I don't happen to have my own analytical lab, officer, but the FAQs I
listed aove, have such data, and it coincides with my personal experience
>If YOU don't like the strength of the blotter you're getting you have two
>choices:
>
> 1 - eat more of it
> 2 - when you're laying out your sheets lay them out stronger
>
>Given that it's pretty likely that you're unable to purchase crystal - I
>think you're left with option 1... though I think this holds true for most
>folks on this ng.
The problem with eating more is you have to dick around with taking some,
waiting, then taking more. My experience with Microdots is that they are
always strong, and I can get a trip with just a few ($5-$10), whereas
blotters,, you never know how many you have to eat, since people are not
dipping/dosing them correctly.
Its a real bummer for a group of people to sit down and expect to trip,
then get nothing but a small buzz, and look at you like you havd bum shit.
Then call the man back for more. If these were all 500mcg dose each, you
wouldn't have to do this.
>NO, he/she means standard strength doses of the 80's Dead scene
>during which you were likely shatting your diapers.
the dead scene happended mainly in the 70's, there were hanger-ons in the
80's, but nothing like the 70's
the people in the 70's use to live their lives following them from concert
to concert and partaking in partying like LSd along the way, in the 80's
their were mainly yuppies that went to see them when they were local, whole
different story, dork
>: I believe people ought to dose each morning at breakfast
>
>I believe people should finish high school and take a couple years of
>organic chemistry and finish remedial mathematics before they start
>spouting off about such matters.
What a nice positive statement. Hear that kiddies, reefer madness will get
you, watch out for the pusher man. Spare me.
Eric Katt
The name 'cornholio' fits you most appropriately. Perhaps you'll be named
that in prison someday. Your allegedly well thought out plans might work
well on your keyboard and in your brain cell but there's something called
"real life" too. Do you think you're safe from being ratted out if those
down the line from you get popped???
Why don't you start jumping on Bob Wallace or ChemRUs too about their lack
of knowledge and their affections toward the bearers of the WOSD?
Your skills and knowledge speak for themselves.
When you can come up with something like that at:
or
why don't you come back to the ng with evidence that you've gained a clue.
Posting a synthesis does not an organic chemist make. Have you ever
worked with hydrazine??? I thought not.
I hope to see your scarred and blistered face adorn the next lab safety
manuals out of Sigma Aldrich though you'll probably get busted long before
then.
As far as my having an anti-LSD stance - that is about the furthest from
the truth as I've heard on this ng. I dislike LSD about as much as I
dislike having my girlfriend blow me. I do, however, have a strong
anti-moron stance as others here can attest.
Eric
In alt.drugs.chemistry Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> pinched his
little buttcheeks together and squeezed out the following elven excreta:
: The Grand Court of Cornholio hereby accuses Eric Katt of having an anti-LSD
Cornholio
>were even born ya puke fuck.
profanity is a good indication of your maturity
I've been partying a long time
which reminds me of another Black Sabbath song
What you get and what you see
Things that don't come easily
Feeling happy in my vein
Icicles within my brain
(cocain)
Something blowing in my head
Winter's ice, it soon will spread
Death would freeze my very soul
Makes me happy, makes me cold
My eyes are blind but I can see
The snowflakes glisten on the tree
The sun no longer sets me free
I feel there's no place freezing me
Let the winter sun shine on
Let me feel the frost of dawn
Fill my dreams with flakes of snow
Soon I'll feel the chilling glow
Don't you think I know what I'm doing
Don't tell me that it's doing me wrong
You're the one who's really a loser
This is where I feel I belong
Crystal world with winter flowers
Turns my day to frozen hours
Lying snowblind in the sun
Will my ice age ever come?
Frank Booth
>
> The problem with eating more is you have to dick around with taking some,
> waiting, then taking more. My experience with Microdots is that they are
> always strong, and I can get a trip with just a few ($5-$10), whereas
> blotters,, you never know how many you have to eat, since people are not
> dipping/dosing them correctly.
>
> Its a real bummer for a group of people to sit down and expect to trip,
> then get nothing but a small buzz, and look at you like you havd bum shit.
> Then call the man back for more. If these were all 500mcg dose each, you
> wouldn't have to do this.
>
As it's quite obvious that you're more at the 20 sack level than anywhere
near the gram of crystal, I'll provide your solution. Get a job. McDonald's
and Dairy Queen are easy jobs to get. When you work around two weeks, you'll
get a paycheck. Take the money from your work---NO stealing car stereos, or
shoplifting CD's for the money-- then buy a couple hundred hits of a type of
acid that you find to be satisfactory, and keep the hits you aren't going to
eat in the freezer. There, now you have a consistent supply of acid at a
known strength.
KazaK
dutchie
heard about it anyway...
Eric Katt wrote:
> In alt.drugs.chemistry Cornholio <squi...@echelon.alias.net> wrote:
>
> <deletia>
>
> : if you assume one hit is worth $2.5
> : that makes 100 worth $125
> : and one thousand worth $625
>
> : everyone doubles their investment
>
> : that makes a gram worth around $1250-$2500
> : and two grams worth $2500-$5000
>
> : you keep assuming a gram is worth $6000, you would have to make a lot of
> : weak hits out of it, and nigger a lot of people, in order to profit,
> : that's my whole point, blotters are too often weak
>