They're baaaack!
Buddy Matlosz
According to my 12-year old, yoyos are the hottest toy around these days.
Thought I'd take a crack at turning a couple. Can anybody offer some
pointers? Specifically, stock parallel or perpendicular to turning axis; one
piece or two joined with a dowel; ideal woods; any websites or magazine back
issues with info, etc?
Thx,
Buddy
S. Feldman
Craft Supplies USA of Provo has a yoyo kit. It has a pair of threaded
inserts w/a threaded stub. Turn mounting stud on the mandrel they sell.
Their phone number is 800-551-8876.
Your ideas of one solid piece, or of connecting 2 w/a dowel gives me some
ideas, though!
Steve
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Fred Holder
Up until Craft Supplies USA came up with their kit. the only way I've seen
described for turning a Yo-Yo is to use a dowel to connect the two pieces that
are turned in faceplate mode (i.e., grain perpendicular to the axis of
rotation). To turn from a solid piece, you would have to orient you wood in
spindle mode so that the grain would be long in the pin. This would make it
difficult to turn the end grain clean and smooth in the recess as well as on the
outside. Both sides need to be turned the same size and weight for best
operation of the yo-yo. You'll also need to buy yo-yo string to get them to
operate properly.
Fred Holder
<http://www.skagit.com/woodturning>
In article <6epm95$4...@news9.noc.netcom.net>, "S. says...
the noc
Check Wood Mag. Back issue Dec. 1988, pg.71, shows how to make a yo-yo.
Just buy the strings from Craft Supplies. I,ve made some this way.
Joseph S. Wisniewski
Buddy Matlosz wrote:
>
> According to my 12-year old, yoyos are the hottest toy around these
> days. Thought I'd take a crack at turning a couple. Can anybody offer
> some pointers? Specifically, stock parallel or perpendicular to
> turning axis; one piece or two joined with a dowel; ideal woods; any
> websites or magazine back issues with info, etc?
Hi Buddy:
I guess this means it's time to come out of the closet....
Here's some pointers for making a serious, competition grade yoyo.
This is the most important part. It's the finish inside the yoyo that
has the greatest effect on performance. You need it to be glass smooth.
The goal is not to loose energy to the string rubbing the inside of the
yoyo so it spins the longest. This means grain is perpendicular to the
turning axis. (Also consider teflon sheets on the inside faces).
Perpendicular grain means you get to show off the grain on the side of
the yoyo. The shaft need to be smooth, also.
Two pieces are joined by a metal shaft. You will never get decent yoyo
performance with a dowel, and it will break during serious yoyo tricks.
Shaft diameter is important, look at some commercial yoyos. An older
Duncan Professional (new Duncan pros just don't have it) or a new Yomega
raider are good starting points. Stainless steel makes a good shaft,
chuck it in a Jacobs chuck and finish the surface through sanding grits
down to cerium oxide powder. A teflon sleave over the shaft helps. So
does waxing the shaft.
Ball bearings are in, for serious Yoyo players. Loop the string around
the outside of a small ball bearing (model aircraft shops or slot car
shops have a variety of suitable bearings) and make sure the bearing
fits the shaft snug.
You want as much weight as possible to be in the rim, as little as
possible in the center, so get imaginitive in your turning countours.
The Duncan Butterfly (always my favorite) is a good shape to start, but
hollow into the center, leaving extra depth for the shaft.
You want a wood that can finish nice with a simple polishing, no laquer.
The handeling a yoyo receives will rub off any finish you use (trust me
on this one) so just turning a nice, oily tropical wood to a fine glow
is all you need. Morado (Pau Ferro, or Bolivian Rosewood) makes a nice
yoyo. Think strength and density. No burl (unless it's plastic
impregnated) or the yoyo will disintegrate the first time you "walk the
dog"
p.s. I got to see the current national yoyo champion in Orlando Florida
last month. Really something. She even autographed my Yomega.
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S. Feldman
Is yo-yo string a special type of string????? Wouldn't any old string do?
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Bruce Sanborn
A yo-yo string is double length, coiled back on itself at the center,
formimg a loop that goes around the hub and allows the yo-yo to spin
freely at the end of the string ("sleep"), until the string is jerked
slightly to cause the string to rewind, and the yo-yo to return to your
hand (with a little skill and luck).
This "yo-yo string" takes me back to 1948-50 and a whole series of
ever-better and more expensive Duncans. Like riding a bike, the skills
remain; picked up a yo-yo as an advertising freebie at a trade show a
couple years ago, was able to dazzle the grandkids with a few tricks
(after a little practice).
When making a yo-yo, is each side before assembly a "yo"?:^)
Bruce
Kenneth Moon
S. Feldman <sho...@mcs.net> wrote in article
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> Is yo-yo string a special type of string????? Wouldn't any old string
do?
>
Most yo-yo's use a waxed string. You could use other types (I have with
mixed results) but it's easier to buy a new one. Duncan used to sell them 2
or 3 per pkg for about $0.25. Probably $2.00 now.
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Keith Bohn
>This "yo-yo string" takes me back to 1948-50 and a whole series of
>ever-better and more expensive Duncans. Like riding a bike, the skills
>remain; picked up a yo-yo as an advertising freebie at a trade show a
>couple years ago, was able to dazzle the grandkids with a few tricks
>(after a little practice).
>
>When making a yo-yo, is each side before assembly a "yo"?:^)
>
>Bruce
Along the same lines of musing and remembering your story reminds me
of a boss I had. He was born in the late twenties and one of his
greatest prizes was an award he won as a kid for being the St. Louis
area Duncan YoYo champ. It was an 8" diameter jacket patch. I took
one look at it and began salivating.
When you consider that had Duncan given one patch out each year to a
kid in every major city in the world it would still be a rarity to
come across one of these.
Keith Bohn
b2d
Spokeshave
Kenneth Moon wrote:
> Most yo-yo's use a waxed string. You could use other types (I have with
> mixed results) but it's easier to buy a new one. Duncan used to sell them 2
> or 3 per pkg for about $0.25. Probably $2.00 now.
hit up your local outdoor/hunting supply place.
get some "fast-flight 100" archery string....
<I use it in place of waxed linnen, wich is impossible to find at a
decent price now-a'days, on bow-saw's>
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Phil Rose
In article <6erfkc$k...@news9.noc.netcom.net>, "S. Feldman"
<sho...@mcs.net> wrote:
> Is yo-yo string a special type of string????? Wouldn't any old string do?
Yes. And no, probably not as well.
Let see. I'm calling on brain cells that are close to 60 yrs old, but... as
I remember--when as a kids we were mesmerized by the occasional appearances
of the Duncan Yo-Yo guy--the yo-yo string we bought was a specially twisted
kind that could be looped around the spindle without using a knot.
Phil
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Joseph S. Wisniewski
Bruce Sanborn wrote:
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> A yo-yo string is double length, coiled back on itself at the center,
> formimg a loop that goes around the hub and allows the yo-yo to spin
> freely at the end of the string ("sleep"), until the string is jerked
> slightly to cause the string to rewind, and the yo-yo to return to
> your hand (with a little skill and luck).
And you have to loop around more times if you have one of those new
teflon bushing yoyos.
> This "yo-yo string" takes me back to 1948-50 and a whole series of
> ever-better and more expensive Duncans.
You should price the high end Yomegas. Raiders go for around $25. The
shaft screws into a threaded insert in each half of the yoyo, and you're
not really cool unless you have both halves different colors, os you
have to buy two. Can't just trade with a friend, because you'd end up
with identical ones.
> Like riding a bike, the skills
> remain; picked up a yo-yo as an advertising freebie at a trade show a
> couple years ago, was able to dazzle the grandkids with a few tricks
> (after a little practice).
>
> When making a yo-yo, is each side before assembly a "yo"?:^)
It's the motion. Up (yo) and down again (yo).
John Darlington
WHat I would like to know (please no flames) if I don't want to turn one,
where would one buy a Duncan or whatever brand, of yoyo these days?
I tried a few stores here in Ottawa, ONT. but have had no luck. I have visited
a few web sites that sell them but am not comfortable about using my credit
card over the 'net.
Can anyone suggest a store in upstate NY, preferably between Watertown and
Massena? Or any other suggestions you might have.
I had a chance to fool around with one at Christmas '96 which belonged to my
young nephew and surprised both myself and him with all the things I
remembered how to do (Well, OK, so I got it to come back up to my hand all the
time-well, OK, a couple of times; I also got it to sleep). Anyway, I think I
hooked myself and I'm trying to satisfy the addiction.
Any help out there (maybe even a more appropriate newsgroup) ?
A lot of yoyos are made of wood (hopefully that will satisfy the net police).
Thanks,
JD
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Felice Luftschein & Nicholas Carter
>WHat I would like to know (please no flames) if I don't want to turn one,
>where would one buy a Duncan or whatever brand, of yoyo these days?
Try the "Yozeum" in Tucson Arizona.
They sell all kinds of Yo-Yo's & make their own line
I don't have the #, call information.
John Sartin
The "YOZEUM" was moved to Chico California.For yo yo info start with
http://www.playmax.com
John Sartin
Oooops! that should have read
http://www.playmaxx.com
Gerald R. Martin
In article <3513ee63...@news.pioneer.net>, fel...@pioneer.net (Felice
Luftschein & Nicholas Carter) wrote:
> >WHat I would like to know (please no flames) if I don't want to turn one,
> >where would one buy a Duncan or whatever brand, of yoyo these days?
> Try the "Yozeum" in Tucson Arizona.
> They sell all kinds of Yo-Yo's & make their own line
> I don't have the #, call information.
Most major cities in the US and western Europe have stores that sell
juggling equipment (check the yellow pages). Yo-yos are *very* popular
just now, so most of these shops have a decent line (with some models made
of aircraft aluminum and disk-drive bearings for $90 US or more...!). Look
in the yellow pages under Juggling Equipment, or check out the Juggling
Information Service on the Web: <http://www.juggling.org/mall/>.
-Jerry M.
George Devine
Hi Buddy; You can make 3 or 4 one piece yoyo's with one set up on the
Vertilathe.
Check out my web page.
George Devine
www.synderblox.com/vertilathe/
Joseph S. Wisniewski
John Sartin wrote:
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> John Sartin wrote:
> > The "YOZEUM" was moved to Chico California.For yo yo info start with
> > http://www.playmax.com
>
> Oooops! that should have read
> http://www.playmaxx.com
Their Pro-Yo has a smooth inner face, and lots of mass in the rim,
(where it belongs). It's a pretty hot Yoyo, and was popular at Oakland
University.
Joseph S. Wisniewski
First, I am in no way affiliated with any of these products, and I only
discovered Dave's web site today, but they have some fascinating yoyos,
and many of interest to yoyo turners. It's interesting to note that
wooden axels can be found on both wooden and plastic yoyos. The modern
yoyos all seem to be three piece (two sides and an axel) but some of the
classic wooden yoyos in his gallery were one piece.
Dave's Wonderful World of Yoyos http://www.nmia.com/~whistler/
Brad Countryman turns yoyos from that multicolored laminated wood. It's
a very pretty, classic shaped yoyo, but doesn't fit my personal image of
a high performance yoyos.
An outfit called Lasertech Alaska turns classic yoyos from maple, but
then uses laser engraving for scenes of alaskan wildlife.
There's also a picture of the Henry Viper, which is definatly the way to
build a high performance yoyo. Plastic, with most of the weight is in
the rim, and a reinforcement of some sort at the hub.
Tom Kuhn's maple yoyos can be reversed for a classic yoyo or butterfly
yoyo (at $45 (US) for a ball bearing axle maple yoyo). He has a turned
aluminum yoyo with most of the wiight in the rim.
Also on that site, plastic sided yoyos with wooden axels from several
yoyo companies that I never even heard of until today, and a solid
plastic yoyo with real scorpions (or so they claim) cast into the
plastic.
And back when I was at my yoyo prime, all we had were Duncan and Marx.
Now, you want to get crazy? How about a page with about 70 yoyo links
http://www.intergate.bc.ca/personal/bobb/yo.html
George Devine wrote:
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> Hi Buddy; You can make 3 or 4 one piece yoyo's with one set up on the
> Vertilathe. Check out my web page.
Been there. You don't show the yoyo setup, just an add for the
Vertilathe which talks about an article that will appear in October
1996. No matter how good your product, you've got to be more up to date
than that in your advertising.