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Sean

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:17:30 PM11/13/03
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How come the are no turning tools made in thr US. I was looking to buy
some tools and want to buy American. They are all from England or
worse yet China.
Why is that? Can't somebody produce a quality tool at a reasonable
price here in the states?

F Donald Hart

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Nov 13, 2003, 3:50:16 PM11/13/03
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Sean,
Have you heard of Glaser tools. They are some of the very best.
Don Hart


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Michael Jackson

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:43:37 PM11/13/03
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Sean,

I think you are a little unfair with your terminology: "They are all from


England or worse yet China."

Have you never heard of Robert Sorby or Henry Taylor or even the city of
Sheffield synonymous with the best steel in the world?

Michael
(from Yorkshire which is God's own Country :-)


Nova

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Nov 13, 2003, 4:51:51 PM11/13/03
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Michael Jackson wrote:

> Sean,
>
> I think you are a little unfair with your terminology: "They are all from
> England or worse yet China."
> Have you never heard of Robert Sorby or Henry Taylor or even the city of
> Sheffield synonymous with the best steel in the world?

It seem "everything" is now listed as Sheffield Steel". Is "Sheffield" steel
even made in Sheffield these days?

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graham

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Nov 13, 2003, 9:52:10 PM11/13/03
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No!


Ken Grunke

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:04:08 PM11/13/03
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http://www.woodturningtools.net/

I haven't tried any of his tools, have no association with John Lea, but
he recently sent me (and probably a lot of other woodturners) this link
to his site. He makes various types of hollowing tools, in the US.

Ken Grunke

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John Coulombe

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:27:24 PM11/13/03
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Here's a bit of a surprise - it was to me at least
http://www.sheffieldsteel.com/sandsprings.htm

Don Pencil

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Nov 13, 2003, 10:52:30 PM11/13/03
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I do not live in nor have I ever been to England or China.
The tools on the web site listed below are made in Santa Ana, California.
WWW.DONPENCIL.COM

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Derek Hartzell

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Nov 14, 2003, 4:53:50 AM11/14/03
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None of this is HSS.

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John Coulombe

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Nov 14, 2003, 6:25:40 AM11/14/03
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Oops - Sorry all !

Sean

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Nov 14, 2003, 9:39:56 AM11/14/03
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"Michael Jackson" <mic...@jackson8321.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bp0tr5$rbl$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>...

No offense to the Brits here in this group Michael. I just prefer to
support my own and keep my dolar at home. We've lost enough jobs
overseas over the last 30 years. I don't want to contribute to it. I
won't drive a rice burner either.

Ken Bullock

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Nov 14, 2003, 10:45:13 AM11/14/03
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I am a big supporter of Local made stuff, I think it absolutly critcal to
the survival of the economy, but, I have that it is difficult, being as most
everything these days is made in more then one place.

What I mean to say is the Tool may be shaped in Courty W, but, the steel may
be made in country X, but the packaging may be made in country Y and the box
is made Country Z. The same is true for darned near everything we
buy........ Ken......


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John McGaw

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Nov 14, 2003, 10:59:11 AM11/14/03
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I can only assume that you haven't looked very hard for these US made tools
if you haven't found any. I have quite a few of them in my tool cabinet.
Some are from Glaser. Others are from Dennis Stewart. Some are US-made HSS
blanks ( http://www.versasteel.com/serious_lathe/ ) which I handled up
myself. Some, like specialized hollowing tools I made myself are certainly
US made. All of them are of extremely high quality. All it takes a bit of
money or a bit of work or a bit of both.

Then again, I've some truly fine UK-made tools that I wouldn't part with.
But then again I'm not one for mindless jingoism either...
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The Guy

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Nov 14, 2003, 11:16:31 AM11/14/03
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With all the support the Brits have demonstrated to the US, I consider
anything made in the UK to be made here. Note: This is over and above
my terrible weakness for vintage MGs... <sigh>

Tim

guy sheeter

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Nov 14, 2003, 11:34:55 AM11/14/03
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Serious Lathe Co. in Portland , OR, has unhandled tool that are about
half the price of Crown and Sorby.
Guy

Sean

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:47:26 PM11/14/03
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"John McGaw" <now...@all.xyz> wrote in message news:<UW6tb.7327$rV....@bignews5.bellsouth.net>...

> "Sean" <emrgoa...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:bc6eeb8a.03111...@posting.google.com...
> > How come the are no turning tools made in thr US. I was looking to buy
> > some tools and want to buy American. They are all from England or
> > worse yet China.
> > Why is that? Can't somebody produce a quality tool at a reasonable
> > price here in the states?
>
> I can only assume that you haven't looked very hard for these US made tools
> if you haven't found any. I have quite a few of them in my tool cabinet.
> Some are from Glaser. Others are from Dennis Stewart. Some are US-made HSS
> blanks ( http://www.versasteel.com/serious_lathe/ ) which I handled up
> myself. Some, like specialized hollowing tools I made myself are certainly
> US made. All of them are of extremely high quality. All it takes a bit of
> money or a bit of work or a bit of both.
>
> Then again, I've some truly fine UK-made tools that I wouldn't part with.
> But then again I'm not one for mindless jingoism either...

Well jingosm is a pretty fancy word John and I had to go look it up.
I'm not sure my statement goes quite that far but it got me to
thinking about a bumper sticker I saw the other day...." If you can
read this thank a teacher. If you can read it in English thank a
veteran." I'm proud of my country and fought for her in two wars.
Desiring to protect her industry by buying American does not make me
some kind of Nazi.

Sean

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Nov 14, 2003, 2:50:39 PM11/14/03
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"F Donald Hart" <fdh...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<9KCdnXx7O64...@comcast.com>...

I saw those.Then I saw the price. Ouch. They look nice but I'm a Chevy
man and thats a Cadillac price. Nice looking tool but a bit much for
me I think.

Ecnerwal

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Nov 14, 2003, 3:22:22 PM11/14/03
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> "F Donald Hart" <fdh...@comcast.net> wrote
> > Sean,
> > Have you heard of Glaser tools. They are some of the very best.
> > Don Hart
emrgoa...@yahoo.com (Sean) wrote:

> I saw those.Then I saw the price. Ouch. They look nice but I'm a Chevy
> man and thats a Cadillac price. Nice looking tool but a bit much for
> me I think.

...


> veteran." I'm proud of my country and fought for her in two wars.
> Desiring to protect her industry by buying American does not make me

Yet you are apparently unwilling to pay American workers American wages
- you seem to want American-made at Chinese-made price. Jerry Glaser
makes fine tools; slave labor does not; I want fine tools, I give Jerry
Glaser money.

All you're going to find (unless you make your own, perhaps) that fits
your critera is some Chinese-made tool with a "finishing plant" that
unloads the boat and stamps "made in usa" on the "parts" to make them a
finished "tool". To compete with the Chinese on price, you need
toolmakers that don't want to make 30 times the money getting minimum
wage at Burger King.

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Denis Marier

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Nov 14, 2003, 3:39:17 PM11/14/03
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Chinese-made tool with a "finishing plant" that
unloads the boat and stamps "made in USA" .
True, or elsewhere, today they do not stamp made in (country's name)
anymore.
Last week I purchased a hollowing tool and its stamped Sheffield England.
The name made in is not stamped or shown anymore. Conversely I bought M2
tool bits and its properly stamped made in China.

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Rex Haslip

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Nov 14, 2003, 9:24:58 PM11/14/03
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Appreciate your sentiments, but I guess one has to ask at what personal cost
do you stop supporting your local economy,

Down here in New Zealand, we make our own and we tend to support the locals
pretty well aswell, but for a different but related reason.

While others support their own at home, and perpetuate the inefficiencies of
"traditional" and sometimes inefficient industry practices, our dollar
wallows around at about 60 cents against the US, and 30 P against the pound.
Try buying those "expensive tools" down here and you will know what
expensive is.

Thats what makes New Zealand a place of innovation, the DVR came from here.
We have to "do it ourselves" cause we can't afford the imports.

Now here is the rub, because of that great excahnge rate in your favour, NZ
made stuff, bought over the net from NZ, is as cheap as.

Try Woodcut tools, http://www.woodcut-tools.com/

or

email geoff irvine E-mail Address(es): goofyw...@hotmail.com Geoff
runs a shop out of Dunedin, has a wide range of turning stuff, and it will
be cheap, especially if its NZ or Australian made. (I have bought a lot from
him, his delivery is spot on and his prices are hot)

Arguably, some of the best hollowing systems come from down here and there
are some inovative ideas in gouges coming out as well

Hope this helps with another perspective on life


Rex Haslip
Auckland
New Zealand

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Ray Sandusky

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Nov 15, 2003, 12:37:26 AM11/15/03
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Try checking out John Jordan's tools - he has the forging done in Australia,
an English speaking friend, and completes the shaping and sharpening right
here in TN!

John makes hollowing tools, and gouges - you should check them out - go to
www.stubbylathe.com

I have one of the hollowing tools and can say it is top notch!

Ray Sandusky
www.artisticwoods.com

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Al Hockenbery

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Nov 15, 2003, 9:57:11 AM11/15/03
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American Made limits your options a lot. Notably Nichols, Glaser as
mentioned above
and Oneway. Yes Canada is still in America

in addition to the above, the top quality manufacturers of turning tools and
equipment are in in England, Australia, New Zealand. On the positive side
these countries and Canada have been the strongest Allies of the US over
the past 100 years.

Buying US made is nice but sometimes it just doesn't make sense.
Toyota will soon be making the most cars in the US.
Do you own a us made TV? Stereo? Camera?

Happy Turning,
Al

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Bill Rubenstein

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Nov 15, 2003, 10:46:46 AM11/15/03
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"...in Australia, an English speaking friend..."

What do you think the native language of Australia is?

Bill

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M.J. Orr

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Isn't it Awww-Strawwwlll-Yuuun....?....:-)

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graham

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Nov 15, 2003, 3:16:54 PM11/15/03
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It's called "Strine"

Graham

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rgore

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Nov 15, 2003, 4:02:26 PM11/15/03
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you people from USA surprise me, you tell the rest of the world that you
belive in removing trade barriers, but you dump your produce on the rest of
the world , then put up barriers to stop trade with you, and their devious,
just listen to the whisper of the the rest of the world you are "ugly" not
the saviour.
ron @ PINDIMAR AUSTRALIA
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Peter Teubel

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Nov 15, 2003, 7:32:43 PM11/15/03
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 15:46:46 GMT, Bill Rubenstein <ws...@swbell.net> wrote:

>"...in Australia, an English speaking friend..."
>
>What do you think the native language of Australia is?

I purchased the original un-dubbed Mad Max movie last year. On the cover is said "...in the original Australian language." I got
quite a chuckle out of THAT one.

Peter Teubel
Milford, MA
http://www.revolutionary-turners.com

JHS

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Nov 15, 2003, 8:57:11 PM11/15/03
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Are the bowl gouges HSS? I could not find any reference to the type of
steel used to make them.

Juergen

Matt Heffron

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Nov 15, 2003, 10:06:48 PM11/15/03
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But they are A2 steel not HSS.

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Lyn J. Mangiameli

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Nov 15, 2003, 11:06:54 PM11/15/03
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They are M2 HSS that go through a "special" tempering process. I've had
one, and one of John's handles, for a while and will have a report out
in time for next months deadline for More Woodturning. It is a well made
tool that (at least mine) comes exceptionally well ground.

Lyn

George

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Nov 16, 2003, 8:17:14 AM11/16/03
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Turn at low speed.

Love mine, takes and holds a great edge just like the A2 plane irons.

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> But they are A2 steel not HSS.
> >

Juergen

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Lyn

Thanks

Juergen

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