Mesquite weight?
Mike & Donna McCombs
transportation purposes. Either in cubic foot weight or board
foot weight. I am guessing between 60 - 70 lb. per cubic foot.
Anybody know for sure what this stuff weighs? I do not have any
on hand to weigh. My father-in-law is says he will bring me some
from Texas, but I need to calculate how much he can carry and how
much to buy. At $1.50 a bd. ft, I want to maximize this load ;) .
Thanks.
--
Mike & Donna McCombs
m...@sunline.net
Spydaman
Aloha Mike,
Check this site out: http://www.flash.net/~ccwdwrks/tables.html
It give comparative weights and shrinkage rates of different woods
against that of Mesquite. I believe the weight given here is 45 lbs.
per cubic feet which sounds about right based on the rather large logs I
have in my garage. I hope that helps. Just in case you're wondering
Mesquite is very common here in Hawaii, and known here as KIAWE
(kee-ya-ve').
Spy in Hawaii
Duke of URLs
> Check this site out: http://www.flash.net/~ccwdwrks/tables.html
>It give comparative weights and shrinkage rates of different woods
>against that of Mesquite.
Great links Spy. Thanks!
There's also a mesquite write up on the Windsor Plywood site at:
http://www.windsorplywood.com/worldofwoods/northamerican/Mesquite.html
Additional properties for a wide range of woods can also be found at
the following:
http://www.windsorplywood.com/worldofwoods/northamerican/
http://www.windsorplywood.com/worldofwoods/tropical/home.html
http://www.millerpublishing.com/nw_hardwoods/index.html
http://www.millerpublishing.com/nw_softwoods/index.html
http://www.wood-worker.com/properties.htm
http://www.woodweb.com/~treetalk/wowarchives.html
Keith Bohn
Mike & Donna McCombs
heavier when I was a kid having to hump truck loads of it. I will
be able to buy more of it than I thought. My Father-In-Laws plan
is to bag up a bunch of mesquite chips and sell to bar-b-q joints
to pay for a vacation down here. Hope it works out. The
surprising part of it all is that it is his idea! He just wants
us to pay for the wood. I will offer to pay some expenses though
anyway.
Conan The Librarian
In article <7ad9bi$e...@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Mike & Donna
McCombs" <NOSP...@sunline.net> writes:
> I am trying to find out the weight of un-dried Mesquite for
> transportation purposes. Either in cubic foot weight or board
> foot weight. I am guessing between 60 - 70 lb. per cubic foot.
> Anybody know for sure what this stuff weighs? I do not have any
> on hand to weigh. My father-in-law is says he will bring me some
> from Texas, but I need to calculate how much he can carry and how
> much to buy. At $1.50 a bd. ft, I want to maximize this load ;) .
You don't want him bringing you that stuff. Ranchers
down here hate it. It's a weed-tree. It's too hard to
work and full of wormholes. About the only thing it's
good for is barbeque.
In fact, since I'm such a nice guy, and I'm planning
to do a lot of bbqueing in the future, I'll take it off
his hands for $1.60/bf.
Also, I'm located near Austin, so I can save him the
long drive. I'll even save him the trouble of cutting
it into cooking-sized pieces. Tell him he can just send
me the widest boards he can lay his hands on and I'll
take care of the rest.
> Thanks.
You're welcome.
;-)
Chuck Vance
Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/~cv01/woodworking.html
(Including a mesquite box :-)
Conan The Librarian
In article <36CA65...@shaka.com>, Spydaman
<spydama...@shaka.com> writes:
> Check this site out: http://www.flash.net/~ccwdwrks/tables.html
> It give comparative weights and shrinkage rates of different woods
> against that of Mesquite.
Also, check out what that table had to say about
its hardness. Now there's a real *man's* wood.
And to think that Odeen was whining about some wimpy
ole zebrawood.
;-)
> [gratuitous wood gloat deleted]
Man, I wish it was that easy to get the stuff around here.
Ever since the yuppies found out about mesquite, the prices
have been driven through the roof, and you can't hardly find
it anymore.
It's so ironic that what was considered a weed until
recently (and usually burned on site or used for barbeque)
now brings up to $13.00/bf. :-|
Chuck Vance
Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/woodworking.html
khp...@onr.com
>I am trying to find out the weight of un-dried Mesquite for
>transportation purposes. Either in cubic foot weight or board foot
>weight. I am guessing between 60 - 70 lb. per cubic foot. Anybody know
>for sure what this stuff weighs? I do not have any on hand to weigh. My
>father-in-law is says he will bring me some from Texas, but I need to
>calculate how much he can carry and how much to buy. At $1.50 a bd. ft, I
>want to maximize this load ;) . Thanks.
You should get all the information you need from one of these references.
Dr. Judd H. Michael
Dept. Of Forest Science
Texas Agricultural Extension Service
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-2135
JH-MI...@TAMU.EDU
Directory of the Mesquite Industry
Ken Rogers
Texas Forest Products Lab - Texas Forest Service
PO Box 310
Lufkin, TX 75901
KER...@VMS1.TAMU.EDU
Dr. Peter Felker
Center for Semi-Arid Forest Resources
Texas A&M University - Kingsville
Kingsville, TX 78363
P-FE...@TAIU.EDU
Los Amigos del Mesquite (industry trade association)
David Miller
c/o Texas Woods, Inc.
Rt. 1 Box 66
Bastrop, TX 78602
800-687-1779
Good Luck.
--
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khp...@onr.com
Happily warped from Austin TX.
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R.J. Hoppe
> In article <36CA65...@shaka.com>, Spydaman
> <spydama...@shaka.com> writes:
>
> > Check this site out: http://www.flash.net/~ccwdwrks/tables.html
> > It give comparative weights and shrinkage rates of different woods
> > against that of Mesquite.
>
> Also, check out what that table had to say about
> its hardness. Now there's a real *man's* wood.
>
> <massive snip!>
> It's so ironic that what was considered a weed until
> recently (and usually burned on site or used for barbeque)
> now brings up to $13.00/bf. :-|
>
> Chuck Vance
> Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/woodworking.html
Mesquite here in Texas is STILL a weed! Even with all the "demand" for
it in the briquettes industry, AND the newly found properties of it
being used in furniture, they can't cut it fast enough, so hundreds of
acres of it are stilled cleared and burned every year. There are
ranchers around here everywhere that will pay YOU to come and cut it an
remove it from their land, the major problem that has already been
stated is it's hardness (did I mention it has large thorns as well). It
dulls blades very quickly and is a pain to cut, but it does grow fast.
I even heard tale of a group at Texas A&M where they are genetically
changing these trees to grows straighter and taller to get more use of
them as timber. As it grows now, it is hard to get a long, wide and
flat board from it. By the way, as furniture, it is a beautiful wood
and in my opinion, nicer looking than teak. One last thought, it turns
VERY well on a lathe....
--
Robert Hoppe
Copperas Cove, TX
"Some things are better left unsaid....NOT!"
John Howson
humidor?
I know Spanish Cedar is recommended due to it's stability
but it also imparts a flavor to cigars...or so I have heard,
I don't have a humidor and only have one or two cigars per
year.
I'm curious as to what a cigar kept in a mesquite humidor
might be like.
Anyone tried this?
John
(Hi, Chuck!)
--
John Howson
Phoenixville, PA
Remove "spam.free" from email and reply email addresses.
Conan The Librarian
In article <36CAF4E7...@hotmail.com>, "R.J. Hoppe"
<half...@hotmail.com> writes:
> Conan The Librarian wrote:
>
>> It's so ironic that what was considered a weed until
>> recently (and usually burned on site or used for barbeque)
>> now brings up to $13.00/bf. :-|
>>
> Mesquite here in Texas is STILL a weed!
Yep, but it's a damned expensive one. :-)
> Even with all the "demand" for
> it in the briquettes industry, AND the newly found properties of it
> being used in furniture, they can't cut it fast enough, so hundreds of
> acres of it are stilled cleared and burned every year. There are
> ranchers around here everywhere that will pay YOU to come and cut it an
> remove it from their land,
Got any names and addresses for me? :-)
I'd be curious if any woodworkers reading this
have actually tried drying mesquite on their own.
> the major problem that has already been
> stated is it's hardness (did I mention it has large thorns as well). It
> dulls blades very quickly and is a pain to cut, but it does grow fast.
Yes, it's very hard, but I find it a joy to work.
Where hard maple can be a downright pain in the butt,
mesquite is just hard enough to respond really well
to sharp (*very* sharp ... *scary* sharp) tools.
It also scrapes quite well, and now that I have my
L-N #164 I imagine that it will plane quite well too.
:-) (I did have some problems with the swirly grain
when I tried using my vintage #4 on it.)
> I even heard tale of a group at Texas A&M where they are genetically
> changing these trees to grows straighter and taller to get more use of
> them as timber.
I read the same thing. But I wonder if part of its
charm will be lost if they do that. I've seen a lot
of creative ways to make use of the wood including all
its wormholes/cracks, etc.
> As it grows now, it is hard to get a long, wide and
> flat board from it. By the way, as furniture, it is a beautiful wood
> and in my opinion, nicer looking than teak.
IMNSFHO, it is one of the very prettiest woods out there.
Its hardness actually is a plus in obtaining a super-smooth
surface, and it takes a finish superbly. It also has a
very striking grain and turns a rich deep reddish brown.
Heck, I even love the smell of it as I'm working it.
And you can just toss the scraps in your smoker. :-)
Chuck Vance
Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/~cv01/woodworking.html
(Including a trinket box made from mesquite.)
Howard Klepper
a dry (what that means can vary) weight of about 52lbs/bf. Your
original guess of mid 60's wet is probably about right.
Howard Klepper
R.J. Hoppe
> In article <36CAF4E7...@hotmail.com>, "R.J. Hoppe"
> <half...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > Conan The Librarian wrote:
>
> > Even with all the "demand" for
> > it in the briquettes industry, AND the newly found properties of it
> > being used in furniture, they can't cut it fast enough, so hundreds of
> > acres of it are stilled cleared and burned every year. There are
> > ranchers around here everywhere that will pay YOU to come and cut it an
> > remove it from their land,
>
> Got any names and addresses for me? :-)
>
> I'd be curious if any woodworkers reading this
> have actually tried drying mesquite on their own.
>
> IMNSFHO, it is one of the very prettiest woods out there.
> Its hardness actually is a plus in obtaining a super-smooth
> surface, and it takes a finish superbly. It also has a
> very striking grain and turns a rich deep reddish brown.
> Heck, I even love the smell of it as I'm working it.
>
> And you can just toss the scraps in your smoker. :-)
>
> Chuck Vance
> Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/~cv01/woodworking.html
> (Including a trinket box made from mesquite.)
Names and addresses? Nope, do not have any. However, if you drive down any
farm to market (FM) road here in Central Texas and see a large stand of
suitable looking trees, with cows anywhere around, all you gotta do is locate
the farmhouse, knock on the door and asks the man/woman of the house if they
would like some of them cleared. More often than not, I am sure they will
tell you to take your fill. And I agree completely about the working of it.
I have yet tried drying and building from it, but like I have said, I have
turned a bit with it, it is fun, and the price is right to chuck a few pieces
into the lathe, if I screw up, there is plenty more where that last piece came
from. :)
Conan The Librarian
In article <36CB085A...@hotmail.com>, "R.J. Hoppe"
<half...@hotmail.com> writes:
> [snip]
>
> Names and addresses? Nope, do not have any. However, if you drive down any
> farm to market (FM) road here in Central Texas and see a large stand of
> suitable looking trees, with cows anywhere around, all you gotta do is locate
> the farmhouse, knock on the door and asks the man/woman of the house if they
> would like some of them cleared. More often than not, I am sure they will
> tell you to take your fill.
I've got some qualms about going onto a stranger's private
land in Texas.
I'm afraid they might give me a fill of something besides
mesquite. :-)
> And I agree completely about the working of it.
Yep, it's sweet to work with, isn't it?
> I have yet tried drying and building from it, but like I have said, I have
> turned a bit with it, it is fun, and the price is right to chuck a few pieces
> into the lathe, if I screw up, there is plenty more where that last piece came
> from. :)
OK, all this talk about mesquite is getting to me. :-)
So if anyone eavesdropping on this conversation has access
to a good source for the stuff, please ping me offline.
Unfortunately, the local (read: Austin) woodmongers
don't seem to have any reliable sources, and they charge
outrageous prices for it when the do get it.
Conan The Librarian
In article <36CAF6FC...@lmco.comspam.free>, John Howson
<john....@lmco.comspam.free> writes:
> Here is one for the gang. Anyone ever use Mesquite in a
> humidor?
>
> I know Spanish Cedar is recommended due to it's stability
> but it also imparts a flavor to cigars...or so I have heard,
> I don't have a humidor and only have one or two cigars per
> year.
>
> I'm curious as to what a cigar kept in a mesquite humidor
> might be like.
>
> Anyone tried this?
>
> John
> (Hi, Chuck!)
Hey John,
How's the r**t*h speed control working? :-)
I haven't seen any mesquite humidors, but I think
it could work nicely for it. In its natural state
it has a nice vaguely sweet/musky/spicey smell to it.
Mike & Donna McCombs
--
> You don't want him bringing you that stuff. Ranchers
>down here hate it. It's a weed-tree. It's too hard to
>work and full of wormholes. About the only thing it's
>good for is barbeque.
>
> In fact, since I'm such a nice guy, and I'm planning
>to do a lot of bbqueing in the future, I'll take it off
>his hands for $1.60/bf.
I have cut and burned many cords of Mesquite for heat in some
cold winters. Some of the stuff stinks real bad when burned
wouldn't make good barbeque at all, so I just couldn't do that to
you ;) .
If enough of you guys are interested, I will let him know about
it. He is retired and is looking for something to do. He might be
interested in tracking down the various sawmills and start
selling lumber. He has already mentioned an interest in it. He is
located West of Ft. Worth near Mineral Wells. I personally won't
pay $14.00/b.f., which is the going rate here is SW Florida, but
I would drive back home for a pickup load of it at mill prices or
for free. I might get some seeds while I am at it. Just think, I
could be the most hated person in Florida for introducing a new
species. Couldn't be as bad as that damned pepper tree we already
have here.
The comments about cutting it for free are usually very true.
Most ranchers and farmers are glad to get rid of it. If you go on
their property, go straight up to the house and just ask. Don't
go roaming around on your own without permission. Could be
hazardous to your health. Many have had problems with hunters and
vandals killing livestock. Most of them are nice people. Having a
good long Texas drawl helps too. :>)
Jim Mowreader
jho...@voicenet.comspam.free wrote:
> Here is one for the gang. Anyone ever use Mesquite in a
> humidor?
>
> I know Spanish Cedar is recommended due to it's stability
> but it also imparts a flavor to cigars...or so I have heard,
> I don't have a humidor and only have one or two cigars per
> year.
>
> I'm curious as to what a cigar kept in a mesquite humidor
> might be like.
>
> Anyone tried this?
>
Yeah, the Spanish Cedar does flavor the cigars, but it's a nice flavor.
(If you buy good cigars from a tobacconist, usually they come from a
Spanish cedar lined humidor.) I have no idea about a Mesquite humidor,
though I doubt it adds that freshly-barbecued flavor to the cigar.
Spydaman
I know of a few nice logs here on Maui but getting it on the plane would
be a bear... :-)
Spy in Hawaii
Jerry Fant
weight is around 45 to 50 pounds per cubic foot. It is a high density
hardwood with slightly open grain. It is in the family of legume of
which there are 35 to 40 species. The most common mesquite in Texas is
the Honey Mesquite. The tree can range from one foot in diameter to
several feet. I have some root balls here that are four feet across.
Mesaquite has a character all of its own, probably the most stable wood
in all of the US. It's shinkage ratio is 1:1. Have had very good
results drying Mesquite both in rough bowl form and in a board drying
kiln. I believe the wood also has silica in it which adds to it's
sanding properties. Most trunks will have some serious checking down
the interior, or should I say almost all. This checking is due to what
is called wind checking, not drying. Mesquite is the only wood that I
know that an end grain, tight fitting, lidded box can be turned green
set aside for three months and will not crack and the lid will still
have a tight fit.
Jerry Fant
R.J. Hoppe wrote:
>
> Conan The Librarian wrote:
>
> > In article <36CAF4E7...@hotmail.com>, "R.J. Hoppe"
> > <half...@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > Conan The Librarian wrote:
> >
> > > Even with all the "demand" for
> > > it in the briquettes industry, AND the newly found properties of it
> > > being used in furniture, they can't cut it fast enough, so hundreds of
> > > acres of it are stilled cleared and burned every year. There are
> > > ranchers around here everywhere that will pay YOU to come and cut it an
> > > remove it from their land,
> >
> > Got any names and addresses for me? :-)
> >
> > I'd be curious if any woodworkers reading this
> > have actually tried drying mesquite on their own.
> >
> > IMNSFHO, it is one of the very prettiest woods out there.
> > Its hardness actually is a plus in obtaining a super-smooth
> > surface, and it takes a finish superbly. It also has a
> > very striking grain and turns a rich deep reddish brown.
> > Heck, I even love the smell of it as I'm working it.
> >
> > And you can just toss the scraps in your smoker. :-)
> >
> > Chuck Vance
> > Woodworking projects at: http://www.swt.edu/~cv01/woodworking.html
> > (Including a trinket box made from mesquite.)
>
> Names and addresses? Nope, do not have any. However, if you drive down any
> farm to market (FM) road here in Central Texas and see a large stand of
> suitable looking trees, with cows anywhere around, all you gotta do is locate
> the farmhouse, knock on the door and asks the man/woman of the house if they
> would like some of them cleared. More often than not, I am sure they will
> tell you to take your fill. And I agree completely about the working of it.
> I have yet tried drying and building from it, but like I have said, I have
> turned a bit with it, it is fun, and the price is right to chuck a few pieces
> into the lathe, if I screw up, there is plenty more where that last piece came
> from. :)
>
Jerry Fant
inside. It is the smell of the spanish cedar(not to be confused with
cedar) that is wanted. Even though it will make your mouth water when
turned.
John Howson wrote:
>
> Here is one for the gang. Anyone ever use Mesquite in a
> humidor?
>
> I know Spanish Cedar is recommended due to it's stability
> but it also imparts a flavor to cigars...or so I have heard,
> I don't have a humidor and only have one or two cigars per
> year.
>
> I'm curious as to what a cigar kept in a mesquite humidor
> might be like.
>
> Anyone tried this?
>
John Howson
I don't think so, Tim.
Unfortunately one would have to build a humidor and put some
cigars in it and leave them there a while to see what would
happen. ...one of these days maybe I'll get a round to it.
Thanks for musing with me everybody.
John
Jim Mowreader wrote:
>
> In article <36CAF6FC...@lmco.comspam.free>,
> jho...@voicenet.comspam.free wrote:
>
> > Here is one for the gang. Anyone ever use Mesquite in a
> > humidor?
> >
> > I know Spanish Cedar is recommended due to it's stability
> > but it also imparts a flavor to cigars...or so I have heard,
> > I don't have a humidor and only have one or two cigars per
> > year.
> >
> > I'm curious as to what a cigar kept in a mesquite humidor
> > might be like.
> >
> > Anyone tried this?
> >
> Yeah, the Spanish Cedar does flavor the cigars, but it's a nice flavor.
> (If you buy good cigars from a tobacconist, usually they come from a
> Spanish cedar lined humidor.) I have no idea about a Mesquite humidor,
> though I doubt it adds that freshly-barbecued flavor to the cigar.
--
Conan The Librarian
In article <7afmlt$2s...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "Mike & Donna McCombs"
<NOSP...@sunline.net> writes:
> I have cut and burned many cords of Mesquite for heat in some
> cold winters. Some of the stuff stinks real bad when burned
> wouldn't make good barbeque at all, so I just couldn't do that to
> you ;) .
Aw shucks ... I can take it. Honest. :-)
> If enough of you guys are interested, I will let him know about
> it. He is retired and is looking for something to do. He might be
> interested in tracking down the various sawmills and start
> selling lumber. He has already mentioned an interest in it. He is
> located West of Ft. Worth near Mineral Wells. I personally won't
> pay $14.00/b.f., which is the going rate here is SW Florida, but
> I would drive back home for a pickup load of it at mill prices or
> for free. I might get some seeds while I am at it. Just think, I
> could be the most hated person in Florida for introducing a new
> species. Couldn't be as bad as that damned pepper tree we already
> have here.
As someone else in this thread mentioned, there is
serious consideration being given to commercial farming
of mesquite. It grow fast, and if they can breed
cultivars that grow straighter than it normally does
in the wild, they think they'd have a good market for it.
So, maybe you could become a Florida mesquite farmer.
:-)
> The comments about cutting it for free are usually very true.
> Most ranchers and farmers are glad to get rid of it. If you go on
> their property, go straight up to the house and just ask. Don't
> go roaming around on your own without permission. Could be
> hazardous to your health. Many have had problems with hunters and
> vandals killing livestock. Most of them are nice people. Having a
> good long Texas drawl helps too. :>)
Yep, that was my concern too. Everybody knows we all
carry guns down here, and we aren't afraid to use them. ;-)
Conan The Librarian
In article <36CB9A...@shaka.com>, Spydaman
<spydama...@shaka.com> writes:
> Conan The Librarian wrote:
>>
>> OK, all this talk about mesquite is getting to me. :-)
>> So if anyone eavesdropping on this conversation has access
>> to a good source for the stuff, please ping me offline.
>>
> I know of a few nice logs here on Maui but getting it on the plane would
> be a bear... :-)
One more driveby gloat like that from you, mister,
and we're gonna have to report you to the proper
authorities.
:-)
R.J. Hoppe
> In article <36CB085A...@hotmail.com>, "R.J. Hoppe"
> <half...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > [snip]
> >
> > Names and addresses? Nope, do not have any. However, if you drive down any
> > farm to market (FM) road here in Central Texas and see a large stand of
> > suitable looking trees, with cows anywhere around, all you gotta do is locate
> > the farmhouse, knock on the door and asks the man/woman of the house if they
> > would like some of them cleared. More often than not, I am sure they will
> > tell you to take your fill.
>
> I've got some qualms about going onto a stranger's private
> land in Texas.
Minor misconception. The people out in the country here in Texas are a lot more
friendly than a lot people think they are. Of course, there are a few bad ones, an
incident here recently in Jasper, Texas comes to mind. More often than not, though,
you will find either very friendly ones, or people that just say, "No." Maybe if
you were to explain what you wanted the wood for, ie: "personal woodworking" and
maybe even offer to bring back some of their wood in the form of a small finished
piece, you might even get further. If you don't want to go door to door and ask,
why not place a small ad in the local rural papers, or even the Austin American
Statesman. Another option is call the tree grooming services. This time of year
they are hopping getting all the pruning jobs before Spring really sets in, and a
lot of people inner city have Mesquite trees in their yards that are always needing
to be cut back. (most of these people do not even realize that the OWN a mesquite
tree) A groomer would have access to TONS of free wood. Just a few thoughts. Good
luck in your search.
Roy Parker
wrote:
>
>In article <7afmlt$2s...@enews1.newsguy.com>, "Mike & Donna McCombs"
><NOSP...@sunline.net> writes:
>> If enough of you guys are interested, I will let him know about
>> it. He is retired and is looking for something to do. He might be
>> interested in tracking down the various sawmills and start
>> selling lumber. He has already mentioned an interest in it. He is
>> located West of Ft. Worth near Mineral Wells.
There's a big firewood outfit in Waelder about 2 miles north of the
I-10 exit. We bought a lot of their firewood rejects (great campfire
wood) for the 1998 SW Rendezvous, about 10 cords worth, and they had a
lot of mesquite mixed in with the oak. They split at least some of the
stuff on the spot, so logs would be available. I've got the name and
number of the outfit out in my rendezvous gear if anyone in the
Houston/Austin/San Antonio area is interested. Drop me an email if
you want it.
>> The comments about cutting it for free are usually very true.
>> Most ranchers and farmers are glad to get rid of it. If you go on
>> their property, go straight up to the house and just ask. Don't
>> go roaming around on your own without permission. Could be
>> hazardous to your health. Many have had problems with hunters and
>> vandals killing livestock. Most of them are nice people. Having a
>> good long Texas drawl helps too. :>)
Somebody mentioned all the wind checks and voids in the wood, but
didn't get into the REAL problem with them. Lots of times, they're
not empty! The fire ants and scorpions just love places like that!
Roy Parker, Buckskinner, Brewer, Blacksmith and other "B"'s, including "BS".
1999 SW Rendezvous info available at http://www.sat.net/~robenhaus
ghpa...@gmail.com
Martin Eastburn
=50 lbs/cubic foot.
= 0.000 800 923 kilogram/cubic centimeter
=800.923 165 313 kilogram/cubic meter
= 0.000 800 923 tonne/liter.